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	<title>Comments on: BREAKING DEEP: THE OFFICIAL 11 POINT PLAN FOR VICTORY IN IRAQ</title>
	<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/</link>
	<description>Eventually, I learned the joys of killing. But I’m skipping ahead of myself. I landed in Iraq in November 2004 armed with a video camera instead of a weapon...</description>
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		<title>By: Mehdi</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-410</link>
		<author>Mehdi</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-410</guid>
					<description>All of these points make sense except for the electoral reform bit. I don't understand, if the majority want an Islamic Republic then why shouldn't they have it? I myself oppose the notion of another Islamic Republic, but then what the hell was the point of bringing "freedom" to people. Anyways, Iraq is FUBAR and will be for along time thanks to us, saddam and Iran. No doubt about that. You should take a vacation and go to Iran, you would LOVE it. Tons of goodies and women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of these points make sense except for the electoral reform bit. I don&#8217;t understand, if the majority want an Islamic Republic then why shouldn&#8217;t they have it? I myself oppose the notion of another Islamic Republic, but then what the hell was the point of bringing &#8220;freedom&#8221; to people. Anyways, Iraq is FUBAR and will be for along time thanks to us, saddam and Iran. No doubt about that. You should take a vacation and go to Iran, you would LOVE it. Tons of goodies and women.</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-412</link>
		<author>Fraser</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-412</guid>
					<description>Pat,
You mentioned the fact that you will be monitoring how the ground campaign is coming. What resources do you use/have to keep so informed. Are there any websites that you suggest? Keep up the good work! Thanks again!
fraser</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,<br />
You mentioned the fact that you will be monitoring how the ground campaign is coming. What resources do you use/have to keep so informed. Are there any websites that you suggest? Keep up the good work! Thanks again!<br />
fraser</p>
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		<title>By: John Manning Holtz</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-413</link>
		<author>John Manning Holtz</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 00:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-413</guid>
					<description>Pat,

I heard you the first time on the John Zigler show on 
KFI 640 AM in LA. I live in Corona, Ca.
Keep up the great work I'm with you and I'm sure a
great majority of Americans as well.

God Bless,

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,</p>
<p>I heard you the first time on the John Zigler show on<br />
KFI 640 AM in LA. I live in Corona, Ca.<br />
Keep up the great work I&#8217;m with you and I&#8217;m sure a<br />
great majority of Americans as well.</p>
<p>God Bless,</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Dollard</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-416</link>
		<author>Patrick Dollard</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 01:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-416</guid>
					<description>The point of the electoral reform is to make the process more democratic, not less.  Any individual will be allowed to step forward instead of being chosen by national party bosses.

You never know when you might find me in Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of the electoral reform is to make the process more democratic, not less.  Any individual will be allowed to step forward instead of being chosen by national party bosses.</p>
<p>You never know when you might find me in Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: Chesty</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-421</link>
		<author>Chesty</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 02:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-421</guid>
					<description>It's about time we did something about Ramadi.  Operation Phantom Fury was the shiz and I hope we do the same or more to that shithole. Kill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about time we did something about Ramadi.  Operation Phantom Fury was the shiz and I hope we do the same or more to that shithole. Kill.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Slee</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-425</link>
		<author>Michael Slee</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 04:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-425</guid>
					<description>Hi Pat,

Great work buddy.  The information is dead nuts on!   Unlike the explination the World media gave it.

First to Medhi, your point about the electoral would be a bull’s eye, but of course you would have to beleive everything you he heard on the network news was accurate about the Iraqi's wanting to be SUPPRESSED...  AGAIN!   

I have been to Iraq (twice) and have walked those patrols through the streets with soldiers.  Always invited into the homes of the locals for chi tea and cookies.  As it is the Iraqi way to be polite to invited guest.  Not like Jon Keri (spelling ha ha) would have you believe.  What you never hear about is the freedoms that many of these people are enjoying for the very first time in generasions.  I KNOW, THEY TOLD ME WHILE I WAS SITTING IN THEIR LIVING ROOM ENJOYING CHI TEA!  And I sure the hell didn't see John Fucking Kerry there.  You know why, because he was invited, nor would he ever be invited into the home of an Iraqi citizen.  They know he's not interested in the least of seeing the United States or the Iraqis succeed at democracy.  So the point is this Medhi.  As I have witnessed, the Iraqi people want the same things you and I do, peace.  They want their children to leave in the morning and return in the afternoon.  In one piece!  They want the sounds of death that echo throughout the days and nights to dissipate like a sunset, silently.   They want to live as all free men do, with choices.  

Yes, there is a group in Iraq that wants an Islamic ruled government… but it is not the majority.  And if it was measured by the people I met in my last two trips over the last year It would be less than 10%... but then again I was walking around with a lot or American Soldiers, go figure.

And Fraser; here is your answer.   And PLEASE pass this along to everyone you know and everyone you want to know.  This is an instant reporting site from the Multi National Forces Iraq Public Affairs Office (camp) Victory.   Camp Victory is the main camp right of the airport, better know as “BIAP” in B-daddy (Baghdad).   You will get “The Good, the Bad and the Ugly” reports long before the National and World Media reports them, but they never do report them, so this is the only place you will get the “straight poop”. 

Just e-mail them at the address below and tell them you want to be added to the Press Release e-mail list.  I get at least twenty to thirty releases a day with the truth of what is going on, minute by minute.  One other thing; this is the same press release system that goes out to every major and minor news organization in the WORLD and you still won’t see these stories unless someone died… “”if it bleeds it leads” ala Robert Redford. 

If you are interested at the end of this I pasted a press release from just a few hours ago.  I didn’t pick this one just because it is the one great success story today showing our troops and the U.S. trained Iraqi units taking the fight to the enemy and winning… they’re all like this.  Subscribe and you will start to see what the media withholds from the citizens it supposed to be serving.

"MNC-I PAO Victory Main JOC" MNFIPAOVictoryMainJOC@iraq.centcom.mil

Mike

P.S.  I'll let you know when I'm headed for Iran.  You can fly my wing anytime "Ice".


Classification: UNCLASSIFIED

Multi-National Corps - Iraq
Public Affairs Office, Camp Victory
APO AE 09342



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
RELEASE No. 20070218-02
Feb. 18, 2007

Coalition Forces Capture Senior-Level Leader In Bombing Network
Multi-National Corps - Iraq PAO

BAGHDAD - Members of the Ninewa Iraqi Special Weapons and Tactics team
captured a suspected insurgent leader Feb. 17 during operations with
Coalition advisers in eastern Mosul.  The suspect is reportedly linked
to Al Qaeda in Iraq and is tied to several recent attacks targeting
Iraqi Security Forces and Coalition Forces in the area.
Iraqi forces carried out operations with minimal damage and there were
no Iraqi civilian, Iraqi forces or Coalition Forces casualties.

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FOR MORE INFORMATION, CONTACT MULTI-NATIONAL CORPS - IRAQ, PUBLIC
AFFAIRS OFFICE BY E-MAIL AT MNCI-PAO-VICTORYMAINJOC@IRAQ.CENTCOM.MIL


Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
If this e-mail is marked FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY it may be exempt from
mandatory disclosure under FOIA. DoD 5400.7R, "DoD Freedom of
Information Act Program", DoD Directive 5230.9, "Clearance of DoD
Information for Public Release", and DoD Instruction 5230.29, "Security
and Policy Review of DoD Information for Public Release" apply.

One last note.  This is the unit I have been embedded with and will be returning to very soon.   HOOAH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pat,</p>
<p>Great work buddy.  The information is dead nuts on!   Unlike the explination the World media gave it.</p>
<p>First to Medhi, your point about the electoral would be a bull’s eye, but of course you would have to beleive everything you he heard on the network news was accurate about the Iraqi&#8217;s wanting to be SUPPRESSED&#8230;  AGAIN!   </p>
<p>I have been to Iraq (twice) and have walked those patrols through the streets with soldiers.  Always invited into the homes of the locals for chi tea and cookies.  As it is the Iraqi way to be polite to invited guest.  Not like Jon Keri (spelling ha ha) would have you believe.  What you never hear about is the freedoms that many of these people are enjoying for the very first time in generasions.  I KNOW, THEY TOLD ME WHILE I WAS SITTING IN THEIR LIVING ROOM ENJOYING CHI TEA!  And I sure the hell didn&#8217;t see John Fucking Kerry there.  You know why, because he was invited, nor would he ever be invited into the home of an Iraqi citizen.  They know he&#8217;s not interested in the least of seeing the United States or the Iraqis succeed at democracy.  So the point is this Medhi.  As I have witnessed, the Iraqi people want the same things you and I do, peace.  They want their children to leave in the morning and return in the afternoon.  In one piece!  They want the sounds of death that echo throughout the days and nights to dissipate like a sunset, silently.   They want to live as all free men do, with choices.  </p>
<p>Yes, there is a group in Iraq that wants an Islamic ruled government… but it is not the majority.  And if it was measured by the people I met in my last two trips over the last year It would be less than 10%&#8230; but then again I was walking around with a lot or American Soldiers, go figure.</p>
<p>And Fraser; here is your answer.   And PLEASE pass this along to everyone you know and everyone you want to know.  This is an instant reporting site from the Multi National Forces Iraq Public Affairs Office (camp) Victory.   Camp Victory is the main camp right of the airport, better know as “BIAP” in B-daddy (Baghdad).   You will get “The Good, the Bad and the Ugly” reports long before the National and World Media reports them, but they never do report them, so this is the only place you will get the “straight poop”. </p>
<p>Just e-mail them at the address below and tell them you want to be added to the Press Release e-mail list.  I get at least twenty to thirty releases a day with the truth of what is going on, minute by minute.  One other thing; this is the same press release system that goes out to every major and minor news organization in the WORLD and you still won’t see these stories unless someone died… “”if it bleeds it leads” ala Robert Redford. </p>
<p>If you are interested at the end of this I pasted a press release from just a few hours ago.  I didn’t pick this one just because it is the one great success story today showing our troops and the U.S. trained Iraqi units taking the fight to the enemy and winning… they’re all like this.  Subscribe and you will start to see what the media withholds from the citizens it supposed to be serving.</p>
<p>&#8220;MNC-I PAO Victory Main JOC&#8221; <a href="mailto:MNFIPAOVictoryMainJOC@iraq.centcom.mil">MNFIPAOVictoryMainJOC@iraq.centcom.mil</a></p>
<p>Mike</p>
<p>P.S.  I&#8217;ll let you know when I&#8217;m headed for Iran.  You can fly my wing anytime &#8220;Ice&#8221;.</p>
<p>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED</p>
<p>Multi-National Corps - Iraq<br />
Public Affairs Office, Camp Victory<br />
APO AE 09342</p>
<p>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE<br />
RELEASE No. 20070218-02<br />
Feb. 18, 2007</p>
<p>Coalition Forces Capture Senior-Level Leader In Bombing Network<br />
Multi-National Corps - Iraq PAO</p>
<p>BAGHDAD - Members of the Ninewa Iraqi Special Weapons and Tactics team<br />
captured a suspected insurgent leader Feb. 17 during operations with<br />
Coalition advisers in eastern Mosul.  The suspect is reportedly linked<br />
to Al Qaeda in Iraq and is tied to several recent attacks targeting<br />
Iraqi Security Forces and Coalition Forces in the area.<br />
Iraqi forces carried out operations with minimal damage and there were<br />
no Iraqi civilian, Iraqi forces or Coalition Forces casualties.</p>
<p>-30-<br />
FOR MORE INFORMATION, CONTACT MULTI-NATIONAL CORPS - IRAQ, PUBLIC<br />
AFFAIRS OFFICE BY E-MAIL AT <a href="mailto:MNCI-PAO-VICTORYMAINJOC@IRAQ.CENTCOM.MIL">MNCI-PAO-VICTORYMAINJOC@IRAQ.CENTCOM.MIL</a></p>
<p>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED<br />
If this e-mail is marked FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY it may be exempt from<br />
mandatory disclosure under FOIA. DoD 5400.7R, &#8220;DoD Freedom of<br />
Information Act Program&#8221;, DoD Directive 5230.9, &#8220;Clearance of DoD<br />
Information for Public Release&#8221;, and DoD Instruction 5230.29, &#8220;Security<br />
and Policy Review of DoD Information for Public Release&#8221; apply.</p>
<p>One last note.  This is the unit I have been embedded with and will be returning to very soon.   HOOAH!</p>
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		<title>By: Mehdi</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-430</link>
		<author>Mehdi</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-430</guid>
					<description>Well I went back there (Iran) last summer after 27 years. I seriously had the best time. Went to tons of parties. Its is pure decadence right under the mullahs noses. Amazing place. Can't wait to get back there next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I went back there (Iran) last summer after 27 years. I seriously had the best time. Went to tons of parties. Its is pure decadence right under the mullahs noses. Amazing place. Can&#8217;t wait to get back there next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Dollard</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-431</link>
		<author>Pat Dollard</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-431</guid>
					<description>Medhi

Damn wily Mullahs.  See, their just lying to us about their lifestyle preferences to keep us away and off their bitches..

It's probably, actually, a Sharia obligation to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medhi</p>
<p>Damn wily Mullahs.  See, their just lying to us about their lifestyle preferences to keep us away and off their bitches..</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably, actually, a Sharia obligation to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-437</link>
		<author>Brett</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-437</guid>
					<description>Even many Americans don't understand that majority rule is precisely the opposite of individual freedom, as it sanctions bullying the unpopular.  Majority rule in American democracy was designed only to fill offices of limited power.  Religious states, by definition, violate the individual's right to religious liberty by requiring him to financially support and submit to an arbitrary belief system he does not share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even many Americans don&#8217;t understand that majority rule is precisely the opposite of individual freedom, as it sanctions bullying the unpopular.  Majority rule in American democracy was designed only to fill offices of limited power.  Religious states, by definition, violate the individual&#8217;s right to religious liberty by requiring him to financially support and submit to an arbitrary belief system he does not share.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-440</link>
		<author>Kate</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-440</guid>
					<description>This is the first time I've been to your site.  My question-if this is suppose to be SECRET why the heck are you reporting it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first time I&#8217;ve been to your site.  My question-if this is suppose to be SECRET why the heck are you reporting it?</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-441</link>
		<author>craig</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-441</guid>
					<description>If this really is the plan, why the hell are you printing it?  Does no-one care about tipping the enemy anymore?  Does everyone assume jihadis don't read blogs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this really is the plan, why the hell are you printing it?  Does no-one care about tipping the enemy anymore?  Does everyone assume jihadis don&#8217;t read blogs?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kelly</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-442</link>
		<author>Mike Kelly</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-442</guid>
					<description>Well, it used to be the secret plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it used to be the secret plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Chap</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-443</link>
		<author>Chap</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-443</guid>
					<description>Do a favor for me, willya?  Make sure to keep the "secret" parts off the place where bad guys read it.  It's not as though you work for the NYT, you know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do a favor for me, willya?  Make sure to keep the &#8220;secret&#8221; parts off the place where bad guys read it.  It&#8217;s not as though you work for the NYT, you know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mehdi</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-446</link>
		<author>Mehdi</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-446</guid>
					<description>That whole religion aspect is all bullshit. It's all to do with Power. They want to keep their power, therefore they let things slide. Kinda like here. Except over here they inundate us with Paris Hilton and Anna Nicole Smith. Nothing real. It was ridiculous to me how much Iran reminded me of a mini USA. It's nothing like Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That whole religion aspect is all bullshit. It&#8217;s all to do with Power. They want to keep their power, therefore they let things slide. Kinda like here. Except over here they inundate us with Paris Hilton and Anna Nicole Smith. Nothing real. It was ridiculous to me how much Iran reminded me of a mini USA. It&#8217;s nothing like Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-447</link>
		<author>Colin</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-447</guid>
					<description>I agree with the need for electoral reform. While don't they just use single member constituencies instead of the party list system? It stands to reason that this way members of parliament would have to represent all people in their district and would reduce the amount of sectarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the need for electoral reform. While don&#8217;t they just use single member constituencies instead of the party list system? It stands to reason that this way members of parliament would have to represent all people in their district and would reduce the amount of sectarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: rrsafety</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-448</link>
		<author>rrsafety</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-448</guid>
					<description>Is this classified?

If so, why did you put it on the Internet?

Even if it isn't classified, is it helpful to our enemies to know our plans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this classified?</p>
<p>If so, why did you put it on the Internet?</p>
<p>Even if it isn&#8217;t classified, is it helpful to our enemies to know our plans?</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-449</link>
		<author>Dustin</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-449</guid>
					<description>Iran certainly is nothing like Iraq.  It is actually a lot of fun and quite scenic and architectural.  But the rhetoric from the President and the religious leadership is much worse than it's been for decades.  Meanwhile, the citizens are more aware of the world than they've been for decades and don't follow religious rule very closely.

Iran has a long history of political autonomy from Islam.  That's supposed to be the Shiite tradition.  People who say Islam is inflexible haven't seen the massive change from 1960 Iran and 1980 Iran.  Iranian are a practical people and I really hope some political reform is possible before a major conflict arises.  

And yeah, the USA has Paris Hilton and other symbols of bad taste and stupidity, but it's also got quite a bit of technological and financial success.  Like Iran, a bit of everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iran certainly is nothing like Iraq.  It is actually a lot of fun and quite scenic and architectural.  But the rhetoric from the President and the religious leadership is much worse than it&#8217;s been for decades.  Meanwhile, the citizens are more aware of the world than they&#8217;ve been for decades and don&#8217;t follow religious rule very closely.</p>
<p>Iran has a long history of political autonomy from Islam.  That&#8217;s supposed to be the Shiite tradition.  People who say Islam is inflexible haven&#8217;t seen the massive change from 1960 Iran and 1980 Iran.  Iranian are a practical people and I really hope some political reform is possible before a major conflict arises.  </p>
<p>And yeah, the USA has Paris Hilton and other symbols of bad taste and stupidity, but it&#8217;s also got quite a bit of technological and financial success.  Like Iran, a bit of everything.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-451</link>
		<author>John</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-451</guid>
					<description>Should we be publishing this on a website?  Just wondering about opsec....</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-453</link>
		<author>Mike Devx</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-453</guid>
					<description>Let's not get our panties in a wad over the supposed 'secrecy' of this plan.  Secrets have a very short half-life.  Opposing forces receive the secret information far more quickly than the American people do.   Believe me, once we're told about it, it is guaranteed to no longer be secret.  Except for those very rare cases where our own internal political opponents happen upon the story - which is not true in this case.

Finally, even if this plan is true, it is merely the plan that was in place at the start of the operational phase.  Even if our opponents know about it - and I am sure that they already do - plans shift and change constantly during any operation.  Do not underestimate the enemy - because they are crafty and intelligent in their own vicious manner, we must and will adjust our plan.

I sincerely hope we do get to exert maximum pressure along the Iranian and Syrian borders.  These two countries are barely even attempting to disguise their aims and practices inside Iraq.  They richly deserve some border thrashings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not get our panties in a wad over the supposed &#8217;secrecy&#8217; of this plan.  Secrets have a very short half-life.  Opposing forces receive the secret information far more quickly than the American people do.   Believe me, once we&#8217;re told about it, it is guaranteed to no longer be secret.  Except for those very rare cases where our own internal political opponents happen upon the story - which is not true in this case.</p>
<p>Finally, even if this plan is true, it is merely the plan that was in place at the start of the operational phase.  Even if our opponents know about it - and I am sure that they already do - plans shift and change constantly during any operation.  Do not underestimate the enemy - because they are crafty and intelligent in their own vicious manner, we must and will adjust our plan.</p>
<p>I sincerely hope we do get to exert maximum pressure along the Iranian and Syrian borders.  These two countries are barely even attempting to disguise their aims and practices inside Iraq.  They richly deserve some border thrashings.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-454</link>
		<author>Jon</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-454</guid>
					<description>I doubt there is an OPSEC concern here.  None of the points are terribly specific, and I have my doubts that this is really The Plan.  It appears to be a list of random tasks that ignore the elements of operational design.  I can't imagine GEN Petraeus would formulate a plan without regard to endstate, center of gravity, and decisive points in logical lines of operation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt there is an OPSEC concern here.  None of the points are terribly specific, and I have my doubts that this is really The Plan.  It appears to be a list of random tasks that ignore the elements of operational design.  I can&#8217;t imagine GEN Petraeus would formulate a plan without regard to endstate, center of gravity, and decisive points in logical lines of operation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolf Fenster</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-455</link>
		<author>Dolf Fenster</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-455</guid>
					<description>I gotta say that I'm kind of surprised that we've decided to go the "plan" route. All I've been hearing for the past three years is that no plan survives the first contact with the enemy.  Of course, that was just a winger rationalization for the poor to non-existent planning by the administration hitherto. This one looks fairly promising, in parts, but to say that the "real insurgency is not indigenous to Iraq, but being pumped in through Iran and Syria" is sheer delusion, and thus to believe that we'll be able to purge the IA of militia and bring in "pure" Baathists, in anything like a timely manner, is rather doubtful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta say that I&#8217;m kind of surprised that we&#8217;ve decided to go the &#8220;plan&#8221; route. All I&#8217;ve been hearing for the past three years is that no plan survives the first contact with the enemy.  Of course, that was just a winger rationalization for the poor to non-existent planning by the administration hitherto. This one looks fairly promising, in parts, but to say that the &#8220;real insurgency is not indigenous to Iraq, but being pumped in through Iran and Syria&#8221; is sheer delusion, and thus to believe that we&#8217;ll be able to purge the IA of militia and bring in &#8220;pure&#8221; Baathists, in anything like a timely manner, is rather doubtful.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith_Indy</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-456</link>
		<author>Keith_Indy</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-456</guid>
					<description>Michael Slee, that is a great source of information.  I've been following that site, and CENTCOM since the war started.  Here is the website where you can see the press releases, and sign up for a weekly roundup of the news.  http://www.mnf-iraq.com/

Pat - great work you're doing, to many people are "buying" the soda straw view of Iraq that the mainstream media is foisting on them.  Looking forward to seeing your documentary when completed.

Dustin - when you say the rhetoric is much worse, are you talking about the rhetoric from Iran?

That kind of electoral reform is something we should support here in the States.  Imagine any dullard being able to run for high office, rather then the dullards "chosen by (state and) national party bosses."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Slee, that is a great source of information.  I&#8217;ve been following that site, and CENTCOM since the war started.  Here is the website where you can see the press releases, and sign up for a weekly roundup of the news.  <a href="http://www.mnf-iraq.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mnf-iraq.com/</a></p>
<p>Pat - great work you&#8217;re doing, to many people are &#8220;buying&#8221; the soda straw view of Iraq that the mainstream media is foisting on them.  Looking forward to seeing your documentary when completed.</p>
<p>Dustin - when you say the rhetoric is much worse, are you talking about the rhetoric from Iran?</p>
<p>That kind of electoral reform is something we should support here in the States.  Imagine any dullard being able to run for high office, rather then the dullards &#8220;chosen by (state and) national party bosses.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Pundit &#187; Talk Show Host Unveils Operation Magic Wand</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-460</link>
		<author>Daily Pundit &#187; Talk Show Host Unveils Operation Magic Wand</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-460</guid>
					<description>[...] Is this THE OFFICIAL 11 POINT PLAN FOR VICTORY IN IRAQ? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Is this THE OFFICIAL 11 POINT PLAN FOR VICTORY IN IRAQ? [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-461</link>
		<author>Jamie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-461</guid>
					<description>I'm concerned about security... but what of these 11 points is not either known already, in outline, or predictable, or immediately apparent once it starts? I don't see any major breaches in what our host has revealed; am I wrong?

Details should be kept close, but where's the downside in giving this broad outline? What's been missing in Iraq has not so much been information about &lt;i&gt;what to do&lt;/i&gt;, but orders and support to do it. Please Allah and Democrats, let's have that support now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m concerned about security&#8230; but what of these 11 points is not either known already, in outline, or predictable, or immediately apparent once it starts? I don&#8217;t see any major breaches in what our host has revealed; am I wrong?</p>
<p>Details should be kept close, but where&#8217;s the downside in giving this broad outline? What&#8217;s been missing in Iraq has not so much been information about <i>what to do</i>, but orders and support to do it. Please Allah and Democrats, let&#8217;s have that support now!</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-468</link>
		<author>Chad</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-468</guid>
					<description>Haha. It's funny how many people find this information to be any violation of OPSEC, let alone a danger to our military. This info coulden't be any more vague. It's just an outline of what we plan on doing around the place. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha. It&#8217;s funny how many people find this information to be any violation of OPSEC, let alone a danger to our military. This info coulden&#8217;t be any more vague. It&#8217;s just an outline of what we plan on doing around the place.</p>
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		<title>By: Bass</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-469</link>
		<author>Bass</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-469</guid>
					<description>Good stuff here as always.  Personally I don't like how open we are with military plans but hey, they know what they're doing more than I do.

Can't wait to see more videos of yours.  It seems like for every 1 video of yours I see 20 of Marines/Soldiers being asshats, such as throw a flash bang at a sheep herder.  I would be totally discouraged if it wasn't for your website.

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff here as always.  Personally I don&#8217;t like how open we are with military plans but hey, they know what they&#8217;re doing more than I do.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to see more videos of yours.  It seems like for every 1 video of yours I see 20 of Marines/Soldiers being asshats, such as throw a flash bang at a sheep herder.  I would be totally discouraged if it wasn&#8217;t for your website.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Kid Various</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-470</link>
		<author>Kid Various</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-470</guid>
					<description>As someone who's been involved with the Iraqi electoral process, I cannot stress enough just how bad the present system is.  

Iraq currently has a fully proportional representation system for Parliamentary elections.  Meaning, if your party (or coalition) gets 33% of the vote, you get 33% of the seats.  This ensures that sectarian interests are represented in Parliament in roughly the same number as their population.  Even small groups like the Yezidi or Sabeans get 1 or 2 members.  This sort of ability to be "representative" is WAY big in the Islamic world.

If you want an electoral system that consolidates power in the hands of a few sectarian party bosses and prevents any representative from appealing to any population outside his narrow sectarian constituency - this is the perfect system.  If you want an electoral system that makes representatives responsible to the actual people they serve, PR is very much the *worst* system you could possibly imagine that can still be called democratic.

This is because PR works by having the parties put forth "lists" of candidates.  For instance "555" (the shia coalition) puts together a list of 275 candidates (275 seats in Parliament.)  They got, i think, 131 seats.  That means the first 131 candidates on the list get seats in Parliament.  Who determines your placement on the list?  The party bosses!  So you can be #12 on the list or #176 - depending on how loyal you are to the party leader.  Obviously, since being an MP brings with it many perks including cash and immunity - you want to be up high on that list.  Conversely, whether or not your constituents are happy with you is irrelevant, because your placement on the list is wholly dependent on the party leaders.

However, were Iraq to develop a system based on geographic constituencies (based on a census) and adopt a "first past the post" system, sectarian groupings would be represented unevenly and some groups would never be represented at all.  However, the representatives elected would be forced to be much more responsive to their voters in their geographic constituency.  This is because they'd need to provide their voters with enough reason to vote for them and build enough coalitions among the electorate to get to 50% +1 vote.  As a result, the ability of a small group of party leaders to dictate policy would be greatly reduced.

Unfortunately, adopting this type of syetm requires two things:

1) It relies on the party leaders, who now control the legislative/constitutional process, to voluntarily put into place a system that will dilute their power.  Once PR is put in place as a representational system, it is notoriously difficult to change because it is not in the interests of the power brokers.

2) It will require significant changes in the current constitution.  Given that the Parliament is paralyzed over constitutional amendments of an even less divisive nature (oil revenue sharing, etc.) the chances that the Iraqi Council of representatives will puch through such an electoral change is unlikely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who&#8217;s been involved with the Iraqi electoral process, I cannot stress enough just how bad the present system is.  </p>
<p>Iraq currently has a fully proportional representation system for Parliamentary elections.  Meaning, if your party (or coalition) gets 33% of the vote, you get 33% of the seats.  This ensures that sectarian interests are represented in Parliament in roughly the same number as their population.  Even small groups like the Yezidi or Sabeans get 1 or 2 members.  This sort of ability to be &#8220;representative&#8221; is WAY big in the Islamic world.</p>
<p>If you want an electoral system that consolidates power in the hands of a few sectarian party bosses and prevents any representative from appealing to any population outside his narrow sectarian constituency - this is the perfect system.  If you want an electoral system that makes representatives responsible to the actual people they serve, PR is very much the *worst* system you could possibly imagine that can still be called democratic.</p>
<p>This is because PR works by having the parties put forth &#8220;lists&#8221; of candidates.  For instance &#8220;555&#8243; (the shia coalition) puts together a list of 275 candidates (275 seats in Parliament.)  They got, i think, 131 seats.  That means the first 131 candidates on the list get seats in Parliament.  Who determines your placement on the list?  The party bosses!  So you can be #12 on the list or #176 - depending on how loyal you are to the party leader.  Obviously, since being an MP brings with it many perks including cash and immunity - you want to be up high on that list.  Conversely, whether or not your constituents are happy with you is irrelevant, because your placement on the list is wholly dependent on the party leaders.</p>
<p>However, were Iraq to develop a system based on geographic constituencies (based on a census) and adopt a &#8220;first past the post&#8221; system, sectarian groupings would be represented unevenly and some groups would never be represented at all.  However, the representatives elected would be forced to be much more responsive to their voters in their geographic constituency.  This is because they&#8217;d need to provide their voters with enough reason to vote for them and build enough coalitions among the electorate to get to 50% +1 vote.  As a result, the ability of a small group of party leaders to dictate policy would be greatly reduced.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, adopting this type of syetm requires two things:</p>
<p>1) It relies on the party leaders, who now control the legislative/constitutional process, to voluntarily put into place a system that will dilute their power.  Once PR is put in place as a representational system, it is notoriously difficult to change because it is not in the interests of the power brokers.</p>
<p>2) It will require significant changes in the current constitution.  Given that the Parliament is paralyzed over constitutional amendments of an even less divisive nature (oil revenue sharing, etc.) the chances that the Iraqi Council of representatives will puch through such an electoral change is unlikely.</p>
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		<title>By: Mehdi</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-471</link>
		<author>Mehdi</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-471</guid>
					<description>Keith-Indy I'm sure Dustin meant the rhetoric coming from the Iranian president and Religious figures, but I don't blame you for possibly mistaking that he meant W. I know most of the people on here won't agree with me, but the parallels are a bit ironic. I'm not doing a straight comparison, but on certain issues they are more alike than either of them or us would like to admit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith-Indy I&#8217;m sure Dustin meant the rhetoric coming from the Iranian president and Religious figures, but I don&#8217;t blame you for possibly mistaking that he meant W. I know most of the people on here won&#8217;t agree with me, but the parallels are a bit ironic. I&#8217;m not doing a straight comparison, but on certain issues they are more alike than either of them or us would like to admit.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Dollard</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-473</link>
		<author>Pat Dollard</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-473</guid>
					<description>No OPSEC was breached.  The word secret was not meant to imply classified - the broadstrokes outlined above have already become available to "the other team".  I am 100% certain of that, or I would not hove posted this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No OPSEC was breached.  The word secret was not meant to imply classified - the broadstrokes outlined above have already become available to &#8220;the other team&#8221;.  I am 100% certain of that, or I would not hove posted this.</p>
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		<title>By: The Captain&#8217;s Journal &#187; 11 Point Plan for Victory in Iraq</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-474</link>
		<author>The Captain&#8217;s Journal &#187; 11 Point Plan for Victory in Iraq</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-474</guid>
					<description>[...] Dollard gives us an interesting rundown of what he calls the 11-point plan for victory in Iraq submitted to the White House, Pentagon and State Department (which he claims has been confirmed by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-477</link>
		<author>Dustin</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-477</guid>
					<description>Yeah I meant President Ahmedinijad and the religious leadership of Iran are returning to more outspoken ways.

I don't know that George Bush really is speaking more extremely than, say Clinton in 1998 when referring to Iraq.  If he is it isn't a severe difference (though attitudes in the USA are obviously much more extreme about the middle east since 2001.

Bush is really the representative of a large coaltion of people who elected him.  Most of what he does he can't avoid doing - but he's supposed to be able to clearly communicate his goals and inspire the nation to fulfill our objectives.  He's failed miserably to make the case.  When he stumbles on a point, he just keeps on stumbling.  When WMD's were not found in the way we expected, he should have quickly responded why it's still important to be there and acknowledged that the intelligence wasn't reliable (is it ever?).  Bush has been inflexible in Iraq in general and he's been awful about inpsiring confidence that this is a worthy war.  And believe me, Clinton or Reagan or many other leaders would have been very able to explain what a tough nut to crack Iraq is and why it's important to work this problem out.  Whether or not we should have gone into Iraq (reasonable people truly can disagree here, I guess) the fact is that Al Qaeda has made a major stand there, Iran has sent resources there (and Iran is running out of money), and we've managed to use this war to tear down Al Qaeda's communication and financial network in a way we couldn't have done in Afghanistan.  Not to mention that Iraq was the source of hundreds of billions of dollars of corruption in France, China, Russia, and Germany (that fed a very murderous regime) and the war effort that stopped those killings and that money was, in and of itself, worthwhile.

I'm very disappointed in Bush.  This war shouldn't be about Bush.  We had no choice but to enter into an ugly bad choice of aw ar somewhere, there was just too much built up tyranny in the Middle East over the many years of the cold war.  We should be discussing different ideas about how to win, not struggling to even bring winning into the discussion at all.  The idea that this war is unwinnable when we beat Japan is laughable.  Yet most folks believe this war can't be won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I meant President Ahmedinijad and the religious leadership of Iran are returning to more outspoken ways.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that George Bush really is speaking more extremely than, say Clinton in 1998 when referring to Iraq.  If he is it isn&#8217;t a severe difference (though attitudes in the USA are obviously much more extreme about the middle east since 2001.</p>
<p>Bush is really the representative of a large coaltion of people who elected him.  Most of what he does he can&#8217;t avoid doing - but he&#8217;s supposed to be able to clearly communicate his goals and inspire the nation to fulfill our objectives.  He&#8217;s failed miserably to make the case.  When he stumbles on a point, he just keeps on stumbling.  When WMD&#8217;s were not found in the way we expected, he should have quickly responded why it&#8217;s still important to be there and acknowledged that the intelligence wasn&#8217;t reliable (is it ever?).  Bush has been inflexible in Iraq in general and he&#8217;s been awful about inpsiring confidence that this is a worthy war.  And believe me, Clinton or Reagan or many other leaders would have been very able to explain what a tough nut to crack Iraq is and why it&#8217;s important to work this problem out.  Whether or not we should have gone into Iraq (reasonable people truly can disagree here, I guess) the fact is that Al Qaeda has made a major stand there, Iran has sent resources there (and Iran is running out of money), and we&#8217;ve managed to use this war to tear down Al Qaeda&#8217;s communication and financial network in a way we couldn&#8217;t have done in Afghanistan.  Not to mention that Iraq was the source of hundreds of billions of dollars of corruption in France, China, Russia, and Germany (that fed a very murderous regime) and the war effort that stopped those killings and that money was, in and of itself, worthwhile.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very disappointed in Bush.  This war shouldn&#8217;t be about Bush.  We had no choice but to enter into an ugly bad choice of aw ar somewhere, there was just too much built up tyranny in the Middle East over the many years of the cold war.  We should be discussing different ideas about how to win, not struggling to even bring winning into the discussion at all.  The idea that this war is unwinnable when we beat Japan is laughable.  Yet most folks believe this war can&#8217;t be won.</p>
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		<title>By: Joatmoaf</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-482</link>
		<author>Joatmoaf</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-482</guid>
					<description>The most important thing is locking down the borders. I've said that from the begining. If they don't do that, they won't be able to accomplish the other 10 goals.

After the borders are secure I'd put more scrutiny on those trying to leave Iraq rather than entering.
The terrorists are already there. Once the borders are locked down they will run out of supplies and support and will have no choice but to try to leave and sneak back another day.
Catch them when they leave, turn them over to the Iraqis and let then deal with them in their own special way.

I understand that, with the Iraqis in charge now, the prisoners in Abu-Ghraib are wistfully remembering the Good Ol' Days when all the Americans did was play a few Frat jokes on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most important thing is locking down the borders. I&#8217;ve said that from the begining. If they don&#8217;t do that, they won&#8217;t be able to accomplish the other 10 goals.</p>
<p>After the borders are secure I&#8217;d put more scrutiny on those trying to leave Iraq rather than entering.<br />
The terrorists are already there. Once the borders are locked down they will run out of supplies and support and will have no choice but to try to leave and sneak back another day.<br />
Catch them when they leave, turn them over to the Iraqis and let then deal with them in their own special way.</p>
<p>I understand that, with the Iraqis in charge now, the prisoners in Abu-Ghraib are wistfully remembering the Good Ol&#8217; Days when all the Americans did was play a few Frat jokes on them.</p>
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		<title>By: walrus</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-483</link>
		<author>walrus</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-483</guid>
					<description>We are preparing to bomb Iran and Syria. This "plan" is disinformation, some of it is no doubt true, but there is a big lie embedded in point #1.

The insurgency is not being stoked from Iran and Syria. The State Department has reported that between 4% and 10% of insurgents are foriegners and the bulk of these are Saudi Arabian Sunni.

[url]http://www.aeaweb.org/annual_mtg_papers/2007/0105_1430_1601.pdf[/url]

Syria has even tightened its border restrictions and visa requirements as it tries to cope with hundreds of thousands of Iraqi refugees.

We are being collectively asked to believe that the reason we are not currently successful in Iraq is because of Iran and Syrian action. The logical step Israel and the NeoCons  would then like us to take is attacks on both countries.

I personally fail to see how it is in Americas interests to follow this plan, but I guess its going to happen that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are preparing to bomb Iran and Syria. This &#8220;plan&#8221; is disinformation, some of it is no doubt true, but there is a big lie embedded in point #1.</p>
<p>The insurgency is not being stoked from Iran and Syria. The State Department has reported that between 4% and 10% of insurgents are foriegners and the bulk of these are Saudi Arabian Sunni.</p>
<p>[url]http://www.aeaweb.org/annual_mtg_papers/2007/0105_1430_1601.pdf[/url]</p>
<p>Syria has even tightened its border restrictions and visa requirements as it tries to cope with hundreds of thousands of Iraqi refugees.</p>
<p>We are being collectively asked to believe that the reason we are not currently successful in Iraq is because of Iran and Syrian action. The logical step Israel and the NeoCons  would then like us to take is attacks on both countries.</p>
<p>I personally fail to see how it is in Americas interests to follow this plan, but I guess its going to happen that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Chap</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-485</link>
		<author>Chap</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-485</guid>
					<description>Roger all.  Thanks.  Keep charging, man...</description>
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		<title>By: Guardian</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-486</link>
		<author>Guardian</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-486</guid>
					<description>Another great article, Pat. Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: Chesty</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-489</link>
		<author>Chesty</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 04:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-489</guid>
					<description>If you are someone who thinks OPSEC has been breached because of this posting, you have spent TOO MUCH TIME watching "24" and "The Unit"  and NOT ENOUGH time doing IED Sweeps, High Value Target Snatches, or finding weapons caches.  You are probably also someone who has no clue about escalation of force, Rules of Engagement, or a 5 Paragraph order.  In other words, "Shut the fuck up."

Thank you for your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are someone who thinks OPSEC has been breached because of this posting, you have spent TOO MUCH TIME watching &#8220;24&#8243; and &#8220;The Unit&#8221;  and NOT ENOUGH time doing IED Sweeps, High Value Target Snatches, or finding weapons caches.  You are probably also someone who has no clue about escalation of force, Rules of Engagement, or a 5 Paragraph order.  In other words, &#8220;Shut the fuck up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you for your time.</p>
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		<title>By: akak</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-501</link>
		<author>akak</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-501</guid>
					<description>Securing the border, where have I heard that before? Sounds like a great idea, but we all know that end result unfortunately.

Trusting some Bathists, meh don't turn your back on them.
Otherwise the plan seems to be pretty sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Securing the border, where have I heard that before? Sounds like a great idea, but we all know that end result unfortunately.</p>
<p>Trusting some Bathists, meh don&#8217;t turn your back on them.<br />
Otherwise the plan seems to be pretty sound.</p>
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		<title>By: D_Mac</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-510</link>
		<author>D_Mac</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-510</guid>
					<description>The pic of Petraeus is a bit out of date, give the man 2 more stars on that lapel</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Hermann</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-523</link>
		<author>Paul Hermann</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-523</guid>
					<description>The problem is that nobody had the courage to say that our 4 star clowns were botching the job. God forbid the Pentagon generals are criticized. Oh no that means we you don't support the troops. God forbid. It must be tough in an organization that doesn't allow criticism but you know its costing your friends lives so you have to sit around and hope MAYBE they will change tactics. Wow. 4 years later they have a solid plan. Any of you guys at least take some of that 12 billlion in cash Bremer left lying around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that nobody had the courage to say that our 4 star clowns were botching the job. God forbid the Pentagon generals are criticized. Oh no that means we you don&#8217;t support the troops. God forbid. It must be tough in an organization that doesn&#8217;t allow criticism but you know its costing your friends lives so you have to sit around and hope MAYBE they will change tactics. Wow. 4 years later they have a solid plan. Any of you guys at least take some of that 12 billlion in cash Bremer left lying around.</p>
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		<title>By: rhythmstick</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-553</link>
		<author>rhythmstick</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-553</guid>
					<description>Pat, I applaud your work and courage, thanks for keepin us informed.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff_F_F</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-566</link>
		<author>Jeff_F_F</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-566</guid>
					<description>If the majority of the insurgents are Saudi, that is quite interesting. Saudi Arabia has a hefty incentive to help reduce that--the last thing they want is for us to be defeated in Iraq, which would give Iran a opportunity to expand their power. The question is whether they have the ability to patrol their border with Iraq. I can't help thinking of the fact that we had to feed their troops in the desert in '91 because they didn't have the logistical resources to do so. They may not be able to project enough power onto their border to make any difference. If this could be remedied it could be quite helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the majority of the insurgents are Saudi, that is quite interesting. Saudi Arabia has a hefty incentive to help reduce that&#8211;the last thing they want is for us to be defeated in Iraq, which would give Iran a opportunity to expand their power. The question is whether they have the ability to patrol their border with Iraq. I can&#8217;t help thinking of the fact that we had to feed their troops in the desert in &#8216;91 because they didn&#8217;t have the logistical resources to do so. They may not be able to project enough power onto their border to make any difference. If this could be remedied it could be quite helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Marsha</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-568</link>
		<author>Marsha</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-568</guid>
					<description>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/getting_the_news_from_the_enemy_update_iii/

Bogus source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/getting_the_news_from_the_enemy_update_iii/" rel="nofollow">http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/getting_the_news_from_the_enemy_update_iii/</a></p>
<p>Bogus source.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Dollard</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-575</link>
		<author>Pat Dollard</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-575</guid>
					<description>Jeff

Nowhere does it say the majority of the Saudis are insurgents.  What the plan says is exactly what you are looking for:  we have enlisted the Saudis to help control the Sunni Insurgents, and destroy the Al Qaeda insurgents.  The Saudis have paid off a tribe for us to fight as our allies, ala the Norhtern Alliance in Afghanistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff</p>
<p>Nowhere does it say the majority of the Saudis are insurgents.  What the plan says is exactly what you are looking for:  we have enlisted the Saudis to help control the Sunni Insurgents, and destroy the Al Qaeda insurgents.  The Saudis have paid off a tribe for us to fight as our allies, ala the Norhtern Alliance in Afghanistan.</p>
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		<title>By: Lcpl Smith KA, USMC</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-576</link>
		<author>Lcpl Smith KA, USMC</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-576</guid>
					<description>Paul Hermann:

    What job has been botched?  The War on Terror?  I'm pretty sure that we are still fighting insurgents, insurgents are synonomous with terrorists in case you're confused about that.  People like yourself seem to forget that people die in wars.  Every person in the military today has actually VOLUNTEERED their service, that means they went and signed up on their own.  When they did that they swore to defend this country and it's constitution and to follow orders from the Commander in Chief.  Not to sit back and have the luxury of being one of the protected back on the land that we are fighting for and criticize what's going on and what tactics are being used.  I leave you with this, enjoy your freedom to say that we have botched something over there, because it is what we, the men and women who stand ready to do what needs to be done to protect innocent persons fights for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Hermann:</p>
<p>    What job has been botched?  The War on Terror?  I&#8217;m pretty sure that we are still fighting insurgents, insurgents are synonomous with terrorists in case you&#8217;re confused about that.  People like yourself seem to forget that people die in wars.  Every person in the military today has actually VOLUNTEERED their service, that means they went and signed up on their own.  When they did that they swore to defend this country and it&#8217;s constitution and to follow orders from the Commander in Chief.  Not to sit back and have the luxury of being one of the protected back on the land that we are fighting for and criticize what&#8217;s going on and what tactics are being used.  I leave you with this, enjoy your freedom to say that we have botched something over there, because it is what we, the men and women who stand ready to do what needs to be done to protect innocent persons fights for.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-587</link>
		<author>TJ</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-587</guid>
					<description>Does paul hermann have any military experience? Do you know that all wars use propaganda to encourage its troops and discourage the enemy?

Not criticizing the generals publicly is a means to maintain the appearance of good organization and superior planning. CNN doesnt get this or they are purposely trying to subvert this. 

Use common sense: when you go to war you do everything in your power to convince your troops in the righteousness of the cause, strength of the plan, the courage and compassion of the leadership and the superiority and competance of the troops themselves in order to achieve one thing: Victory! 

Look at any competative sport and give me one successful team that gives into defeatism as a means to achieve victory! They never dwell on the negatives, they suck it up, look for their second wind, and kick and scratch for victory. Admitting mistakes in the moment does nothing but damage to morale and causes the team to lose heart.

Wake up and smell the coffee! get out of your loser mentality that pelosi, murtha and company wallow in each day! Join the winning team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does paul hermann have any military experience? Do you know that all wars use propaganda to encourage its troops and discourage the enemy?</p>
<p>Not criticizing the generals publicly is a means to maintain the appearance of good organization and superior planning. CNN doesnt get this or they are purposely trying to subvert this. </p>
<p>Use common sense: when you go to war you do everything in your power to convince your troops in the righteousness of the cause, strength of the plan, the courage and compassion of the leadership and the superiority and competance of the troops themselves in order to achieve one thing: Victory! </p>
<p>Look at any competative sport and give me one successful team that gives into defeatism as a means to achieve victory! They never dwell on the negatives, they suck it up, look for their second wind, and kick and scratch for victory. Admitting mistakes in the moment does nothing but damage to morale and causes the team to lose heart.</p>
<p>Wake up and smell the coffee! get out of your loser mentality that pelosi, murtha and company wallow in each day! Join the winning team.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-651</link>
		<author>TJ</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-651</guid>
					<description>Notice no one ever mentions Kurdistan when criticizing bush and the war! go to www.theotheriraq.org for info about whats going on in kurdistan. The main thing I like about their governance is that they desire a completely secular government for iraq, no mullah will have theirs hands in governmental affairs.

Kurds are cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice no one ever mentions Kurdistan when criticizing bush and the war! go to <a href="http://www.theotheriraq.org" rel="nofollow">www.theotheriraq.org</a> for info about whats going on in kurdistan. The main thing I like about their governance is that they desire a completely secular government for iraq, no mullah will have theirs hands in governmental affairs.</p>
<p>Kurds are cool!</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-652</link>
		<author>TJ</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/02/18/11-point-plan-for-victory-in-iraq/#comment-652</guid>
					<description>winners dont dwell on mistakes, they learn from them. the 11 point plan addresses the previous mistakes indirectly while maintaining a positive outlook for the future.

Go USA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>winners dont dwell on mistakes, they learn from them. the 11 point plan addresses the previous mistakes indirectly while maintaining a positive outlook for the future.</p>
<p>Go USA!</p>
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