World Power Or Figurehead?
The entire British nation was publicly humiliated today.
It was humiliated because the British Government told the Iranian Government that it was okay to humiliate them. As if the English people were just insignificant little bitches, unworthy of anyone’s respect.
The British Government had the coordinates of where their sailors were when captured, so it knew for sure that Iran had committed an egregious, inexcusable kidnapping. But the British Government adopted the modern Liberal policy of tolerance and chatting, instead of calling the enemy attack what it was, and threatening real retaliation or even executing real retaliation. They chose to act as if their enemy was reasonable and could be expected to behave as such. Well instead, today, British nationals were forced to pose as Muslims and humiliate themselves by kissing Muslim ass and apologizing for crimes never committed - just like other prisoners have suffered at the hands of warmongering monsters in times past. Tony Blair set this up, and allowed for it to happen. To this day he just keeps stamping his feet and threatening to get mad. And threatening to actually do something. As if the point for both hadn’t already come and gone. Instead he’s been sucking Achmedinejad’s dick in Macy’s window.
If diplomacy were working, Britain would not have been humiliated today.
**UPDATE***: Today the British Government finally decided to get tough. They decided to ask the U.N. for some kind of written condemnation.
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And it just gets worse. From FOX news.
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — Iran’s foreign minister backed off a prediction that a detained British servicewoman could be freed Wednesday or Thursday but said Tehran agreed to allow British officials to meet with 15 sailors and marines in Iranian custody.
Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said in an interview with the Associated Press that Britain must admit that its sailors entered Iranian waters for the standoff to be resolved.
March 28th, 2007 at 3:54 pmI wonder if Blair would poll to see wether he should spit or swallow.
The Brits just condemned those sailors.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:04 pmI posted this the other day on a different thread but I think that I should have posted on this thread.
“I have been reading many comments to this (the kidnapping) situation. They all seem to be focusing on were the Brits were when they were captured. Well, what if they were in Iranian waters?… so what!”
“It doesn’t matter where the Brits were. The only thing that matters is that the Iranians have them and we (the rest of the world) better do something about it. I don’t care if they were spying or they were out there surfing. We (the rest of the world) are at war with Iran (according to Iran). There is no right or wrong in war. There is only us vs. them. Those Brits are “us.” We must do any thing with in our means to “them,” to ensure that they are repatriated.”
March 28th, 2007 at 4:09 pmIt sure didn’t take long for the liberals, from both sides of the pond, to immediately blame Bush and Blair for causing this.
No one seems to be focusing on Iran presenting the coordinates and then later “correcting” them to show inside their waters. The UK and the US should storm in there and TAKE the sailors back but no, we will capitulate yet again.
I hope that letter we send to Iran is written in ALL CAPS so they know we mean business.
March 28th, 2007 at 5:26 pmI’d rather die than be wear a fucking scarf and apologize like that.
March 28th, 2007 at 8:33 pmYeah, I thought the same thing Rumsfeld. It was extremely disheartening to see the female Brit apologizing for ummm…..what again? Being taken hostage? I understand she has a daughter and wants to see her again. I have 5 little boys—and I hope to never be in a similar situation. Yet, I don’t know if I could even choke out an apology. I am too much about the priciple–sometimes to my own detriment. And does anybody believe the Iranians made a mistake with the first set of coordinates they cited? This whole situation–actually the whole national and international stage these days is maddening. We play games with madmen and pretend that the game makes sense. It is like trying to have diplomatic relations with a 6 year old. If one lie doesn’t work–make up another one and in a six year old mind it is believable. Unreal….
March 28th, 2007 at 10:20 pmI saw the letter in question and the part that says the iranians have been compassionate etc is way over the top. If you look at the letter , the paragraph in question looks like different handwriting. the letters are a bit tighter together than the rest of the letter. i suspect she did write the letter but that paragraph appears to have been forged. i could be wrong. ABC showed the letter take a look for yourself.
March 29th, 2007 at 2:09 amAs the mother of a son serving in the U.S. Navy, it seems to me a bigger problem is evident in this sorry course of events. That is that the Skipper of the Cornwall failed to protect his sailors. In the name of not escalating tensions, the Skipper allowed 15 of his sailors to be taken hostage at gunpoint with no attempt to defend them. He didn’t even try.
When you lose faith that your command will do everything they can to protect your life and liberty then I would think you would have a hard time getting into a small rubber boat and leaving the security of the ship. This does not bode well as mothers, like me, are asking their sons whether they think the command of their ship will do their utmost to protect their life and liberty. Once faith in command is compromised it is a short trip right down the drain… These sailors go out and do the things they do because they trust their chain of command.
As to the videos of the sailors released yesterday by Iran, I am under the impression that releasing photos of POW’s is against the Geneva Conventions. Not that this matters to Iran but, where are all the western human rights groups that howled long and hard about Abu Garab?
You say that the people of the U.K. were insulted by viewing a female sailor garbed in Islamic head dress. I was also insulted by the images and, I can’t imagine that the gov’t of Iran is so tone deaf as to not realize that seeing a western woman in Islamic dress wouldn’t spark huge anger from the west.
March 29th, 2007 at 3:35 amI just love how we all think we know best when we aren’t in these sailors’ position who are 6,000 miles away. Guys, it’s just like the Dems dictating what should be done about the war when those fuckers aren’t even on the ground. Since we weren’t there, it’s easy for us to sit back and say, “Well, there’s no way I would have done this or that!” There are many different scenerios that come to mind that could have lead to this woman’s “confession.” Clearly, she was coherced - you can see it on her face and you can tell from the letter she wrote that she was being dictated to write all the niceties about her captors. Any moran can figure that out. Babs - that commander was more than likely following orders. Did you ever think that this man also has a responsibility to keep his men and in this case, woman alive? Maybe he didn’t have a choice. Again, we weren’t there, we don’t know how it all went down. Rather than sitting back and placing blame on the Brits for being captured, we should be focusing more on Iran and their nuclear ambitions. I would think that that would be more constructive. Supposition us nowhere. And, Grumpy - you hit the nail on the head brother!
March 29th, 2007 at 4:58 amSad. It is amazing to think that ‘Britannia rules the waves’ has been cut down so far. I don’t doubt for a second that the sailors were coerced and any confession was made under duress. I do seem to remember the wording was something like ‘we were apparently in Iranian waters’… some wiggle room here? As for the negotiations for the sailors, there should be a warning that all the sailors must be returned in good shape or action will be taken against Iran. Does anyone remember that great audio from the 1980s when Frank Carlucci was SecDef? We told the Iranians we were going to destroy their oil platform, and they had 2 minutes to evacuate. The poor Iranian slob on the other end of the radio kept saying ‘I do not have the authority’… and the US Navy radioman kept the countdown going until >. I have read that Iran is in bad shape in terms of their ability to refine their oil. The Brits should start by destroying their oil refineries or oil platforms. After enough of these are destroyed, the Iranians will have to let these folks go. The Brits still have a strong Navy and can do this without any help from the US. If they back down and let their domestic politics dictate their negotiations with Iran, it will put them at the losing end of all future negotiations.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:50 amHere’s an interesting conspiracy:
What if the Brits were ordered into Iranian waters? Maybe to get the public a little riled up so we can gear up for some Iran ass-kicking… Not very likely, but I’d be intrigued.
Now for serious. What the heck is Britain doing? Stop beating around the bush already. This is bollocks! Take a diffinitive line in the sand… the Iranians gave proof they were in Iraqi waters (then rescinded and gave “correct” coordinates), GPS puts them in Iraqi waters, and the boarded merchant’s account puts them in Iraqi waters. Margaret Thatcher is rolling in her grave. I’m interested to find out what the average bloke in England is thinking about all this. They’ve been heading toward a laissez-world view for a long time.
In terms of the POWs (essentially what they are). I agree with Robin. We don’t know what’s going on… we don’t know British regulations when captive, and I think it’s safe to assume they’re following standard op procedures.
Iran is just building a case for invasion. (Anyone else wonder what China thinks about this?)
March 29th, 2007 at 5:57 amEZRider - China is probably just sitting back and watching the show, whispering in Iran’s ear.
You have to believe that the commitment and morale of every British soldier in-theater just dropped a point or 10. It is sickening to watch how Britain/Blair are ALLOWING Iran to bat them around like a puffball. Not unlike the Britain of the late 20’s and 30’s, just before the shit went down. These 15 should be renamed ‘Sudatenland’; Britain wrung their hands, wagged their finger, and did nothing then, either.
GW
March 29th, 2007 at 6:16 amI think the Brits need to step up and use “show of force. I know if I were any of those British soldiers… I would be ashamed of my country.
March 29th, 2007 at 8:44 amEZRider: Margaret Thatcher is very much alive, although she has been in poor health in the last few years. She is getting up there in years though, so not too much surprise. Luckily for her, though, she doesn’t have to use the horrible NHS in UK.
March 29th, 2007 at 8:50 amMeant to give link, not that everything on Wikipedia is correct (most is tainted to say the least, but basic facts can be found).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher
March 29th, 2007 at 8:50 amDavid: Watched the clip of the British woman yesterday. What she said was, “We were obviously in Iranian waters. . .” Like we said, she was “obviously” coherced.
March 29th, 2007 at 9:28 amWhy did the British let themselves be “captured” in the first place? I don’t have all the facts, but it seems to me they could have blown their captors “out of the water.”
March 29th, 2007 at 9:58 amThe Iranians have one gas refinery and are a net importer of gasoline. Think Iran minus one gas refinery could do much more than wag its finger at the world.
It would save us all a lot of trouble now and in the future to find out.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:00 amWe were not there and obiviously could not say what happend ,but I do believe that we in the US and UK could be tougher. the UN? please, they do NOT know how to keep peace. I hope we do not have to use force, but we should if necessary.:mad:
March 29th, 2007 at 10:53 amWhat we (US and/or Britain) should do is to utterly destroy Iran’s navy. Every ship, boat, raft and floatilla, every port, dock and fishing net should be reduced to flotsam.
They wouldn’t be taking any more British sailors for quite some time.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:00 amRobin: If that is the quote, then I stand corrected. I agree with all those who are saying the ‘confession’ was coerced. One thing I didn’t mention before was the dhimmi way she was forced to wear a headscarf. That was done for no other reason than to show who was in charge. It was a way in which she was forced to bow to the ‘culture’ of Iran. Just that action gives the tacit admission that western culture is subservient to Islamic ‘culture’.
If the Brits can muster the cajones, they need to do something to get these Iranians to understand they mean business. Unfortunately, they are going to be targeted for further attacks if they don’t use a more aggressive stance against Iran.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:09 amNo problem David. I agree whole heartedly with you. And, bowing to the culture of Iran is exactly what the dems in congress are doing! Every country who is a part of the coilition fighting the war on terror should band together and make Iran understand that “we” all mean business. We all face the threat of a nuclear war if something is done now.
Carol M - I’m sure the Brits didn’t “let themselves get captured.” As I stated in another blog, we weren’t there, we don’t know what all went down and how it went down. We can’t sit by in our comfy little homes 6,000 miles away and say I would have done this or that if it were me. It’s not fair to them. That’s just like saying, “I can’t believe so and so let themselves get blown up by an I.E.D. or a suicide bomber.”
March 29th, 2007 at 11:51 amDavid - Thatcher is alive, sorry for posting misinformation. But if she were dead, she’d roll in her grave.
GW- Well said. Britain just took a kick to the groin and its response was lackluster.
What’s with the headscarf tho? I’m tired of being PC and cowtowing to other cultures when ours get crapped on daily. If “known terrorists” miss a prayer session at Gitmo the media lets loose a shit storm.
March 29th, 2007 at 12:04 pmIts time to take them out, now! Iran, that is.
March 29th, 2007 at 4:25 pmnewt gingrich suggested the brits do 2 things: 1. give iran, in private, 30 days to send the soldiers home.
2. suggest that non-compliance will result in a strategic airstrike on the 1 and only gasoline/petrol refinery in iran/coupled with a naval blockade keeping gasoline/petrol imports from reaching Iran.
send the iranians walking and perhaps their government will do the same.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:37 pmCarol,
:: Why did the British let themselves be “captured” in the first place? I don’t have all the facts, but it seems to me they could have blown their captors “out of the water.” ::
They very well could have; but as is becoming frighteningly typical with Western officers (primarily brass), indecisiveness on the side of political caution is ruling the day. Problem is, now it’s too late to “respond” to the action. Any action now would be retaliation.
Robin,
No, nobody here was there. But…
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,30000-iran_290307_1800,00.html
The Brits have already produced their proof, outside of multiple (including the Iranians until they realized their “mistake”) accounts stating that the Brits were in Iraqi waters.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:32 pmStarkc - I’m not sure why you directed your comment about the videos to me.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:43 pmIran is at it again. The typical middle east, cry cry everyone is being unfair to us please let us kill you and do whatever we want and do nothing. Before I continue let me say this, FUCK THAT SHIT! We have to worry so much because of leftist ingrates what we do and what we say in situations like this. Israel has been the target of much leftist ridicule in the past and now the US, UK, and others are in the liberal gunsights.
Iran knows what they did, they did it on purpose, the only thing they did not know is what we would do about it. Right now we are showing them weakness by trying to reason with unreasonable people. An ultimatum should be sent to Iran signed by the free nations that have balls. This ultimatum could be similar to the Israeli ultimatum after the recent incident with Lebanon, GIVE US BACK OUR SOLDIERS OR WE WILL FUCKING KILL YOU. This is the only thing these people hear the only thing they care about, condemnation and sanction by the UN means nothing to them, they have publicly stated they wish to push the jews in the middle east into the sea and they do not believe the UN security council to be a legitimate body. Iran has been prodding us for months and is very much the head of the dragon that is terrorism in the middle east and the world over.
I beg of the diplomats with their pussyfooting to finally tell Iran, DO NOT FUCK WITH US. They are testing us to see what they can get away with. This is the perfect opportunity to have other countries declare war and let us support for a change rather than the USA being the only country with balls. Stabilizing the middle east is our only hope of future peace in the world.
In short this is another piece of middle eastern bullshit, it’s the same story every time. They use their soldiers which are terrorists with “no affiliation” to do their dirty work, kill and capture innocents over and over, attack foreign militaries, and have the nerve to spout off insults to the free world, then at the end of the day when they get what’s coming to them they cry to the liberal pussies of the world and play victim. Personally I’m tired of the bullshit, the free world needs to grow some balls and the liberal fucks need to move their ass to the middle east and live with the Syrians, Egyptians, Iranians, Lebanese, and Iraqis and see how they like the shit that goes on over there. If you could not notice I am a jew and very much in support of EVERYTHING Israel does without question. For years I have been condemned for my views especially going to school with way too many extreme leftists and I hope people can stop watching “an inconvenient truth” long enough to hear the voice of reason. What Israel and the US do however dirty it may be however much you like or dislike it, it is VERY VERY necessary. The middle east is not a ticking time bomb, it’s 1000s of bombs going off every day, the war is upon us and we can jawjack and make gay documentaries about how 9/11 was set up by the government OR we can send the fuckers to their 100 virgins and bring some hope and happiness to their brainwashed citizens.
Iran needs to feel the hand of the free world collectively. No more victim.
(I am a centrist i can go toward left or right depending on the issue, hopefully future posts will help display that :), i think things can go too far in either direction but I tend to respect the opinions of my extremely conservative friends far more than the opinions of liberals)
**FUCK LEFTIST PUSSIES**
The preponderance of the Republican Guard divisions outside of Baghdad are now dead. I find it interesting when folks say we’re softening them up. We’re not softening them up, we’re killing them.
Lt. Gen. Michael Moseley, USAF, 5 April 2003.
“We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night
March 29th, 2007 at 8:44 pmto visit violence on those who would do us harm.” - George Orwell
Robin,
March 29th, 2007 at 10:33 pmI believe Starkc directed the comment at you because you have mentioned a couple of times that we can’t judge the Brits because no one was there to see what really went down. The video at least gives one an idea of the atmosphere of the encounter and the demeanor of both parties.
Jerusalem’s upset because Iranian President Achmood Amdndninahed (Google it) took his mother out to a nice seafood dinner and NEVER CALLED HER AGAIN!
March 29th, 2007 at 10:48 pmHeather - the video of the “capture” was provided by the Iranians and did not depict the “full picture” of what happened. We still don’t know if the Brits could have “blown” the Iranians away as you stated in your earlier comment. And, who knows what would have happened if they had. All I was trying to say is that we shouldn’t make comments that we would have done things differently because we weren’t walking in the Brits shoes. It’s absolutely ridiculous to presume that they could have done anything differently from looking at a very small video clip. I stand by my words - We weren’t there. We don’t know how it all went down. They were 6,000 miles away and we shouldn’t pass judgment on them for something they may have not had any control over, short of being killed.
Starkc – I believe the Brits when they say they were in Iranian waters – I’ve seen the “clips” on this issue even prior to you providing me with the link. However, I would love to see the readings from the GPS myself, rather than listening to some reporter flashing pictures on the television and telling me what the network wants me to hear. The media is beginning to remind me of that show, Max Headrow (I think that was the name of it). If there is one thing that I learned from my son who is fighting in Ramadi, don’t believe anything you see on T.V. You will never learn the full truth there. After he said that to me, I started researching what the mainstream media is feeding us, and half the time, as I indicated above, the media twists things into what they want us to believe. Hence, me finding Pat’s site. Thank God for men like him. He got f’ing fed up on the world not being told the truth and is doing something about it.
March 30th, 2007 at 4:55 am“”Carol M - I’m sure the Brits didn’t “let themselves get captured.” As I stated in another blog, we weren’t there, we don’t know what all went down and how it went down. We can’t sit by in our comfy little homes 6,000 miles away and say I would have done this or that if it were me. It’s not fair to them. That’s just like saying, “I can’t believe so and so let themselves get blown up by an I.E.D. or a suicide bomber.””"
That is why I directed my comment at you.
The only person who has “admitted” to being in Iranian waters is the woman, who if you watch the videos provided by the Iranians, and look at the stills of the captives, looks scared. And understandably so.
The British have provided evidence that you can look at by digging for the links that have already been posted on this site several times. I am frankly too lazy and don’t care enough to do it again for another person. Also, the Iraqis say the British were in Iraqi waters, the UN security council agrees, the US agrees, and the merchants and fishermen present agree; that the Brits were operating legally and were kiddnapped by the IRG. The Cornwall, who was in attack range, or could have been very quickly (the boarding party will only travel so far in a RHIB over open sea) did nothing.
The only folks who disagree with the opinion/judgement of the UN, which is effectivly the world concensus (according to the standards by which the US’s critics call Iraqi Freedom a unilateral action; and some idiots say illegal), are Rosie O’Donnell and the Iranians. The former is an absolute fool and the latter 1) are obviously biased and 2) have changed their story. First providing the REAL co-ordinates then changing them to be in Iranian waters after someone pointed out, “hey, those are in Iraqi territory”.
You don’t have to pass judgement on the Brits. It’s totally up to you. But this shit keeps happening. Where commanders choose not to do the right thing, and not to do the wrong thing, but to do NOTHING in the face of criminals and terrorists. And it doesn’t just happen to them, we are guilty too, or at least have been, as well.
March 30th, 2007 at 6:12 amAt least the UN is using it’s second strongest threat. They aren’t demanding that they be released (as the Iranians should be legally obliged to do in the very least), but this is in UN speak, the second strongest statement that they can make.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6508909.stm
What I especially like, is the Iranian’s statement concerning the thing. Over all the “fuss” that the Brits have made over such a simple thing as a little kiddnapping between friends, Iran has also recinded their offer to release the woman.
“”The British government’s attempt to engage third parties, including the Security Council, with this case is not helpful.”"
I’ll also add that the Iranians have released another “letter” from the woman, which urges the UK to withdraw from Iraq. Imagine that.
March 30th, 2007 at 6:20 amOkay, my mistake.
Somone was nice enough to inform me that the Cornwall isn’t a destroyer, it’s a frigate. And that the Brit Helicopter wasn’t overhead when the Sailors/Marines were taken hostage. But it was there to see the IRG escaping with the equipment and servicemembers.
March 30th, 2007 at 7:12 amRobin,
March 30th, 2007 at 7:59 amI was merely telling you why Starkc directed the video at you–because it bugged me that you didn’t seem to get the message. And I would suggest that you carefully read the posts before you respond and attribute quotes or parphrases to others—I never said anything about the Brits and the fact that they could have blown anything up–that was Carol m. Just scroll up.
Sink every Iranian vessel in or out of port. Reduce Terhan to rubble. Then Iran will understand real power.
March 30th, 2007 at 8:38 amThis is perfect, the only thing better would have been abduction of French. This perfectly highlights how incredibly weak Europe is. Without the will to win they are nothing. We need to stay back from this, let Europe see how pathetic they are without big brother America fighting every fight for them. Let they stand alone against terrorists for a while and then let them come begging to us for help.
March 30th, 2007 at 9:54 amSorry. Doesn’t work that way.
March 30th, 2007 at 9:54 amenglish people are insignificant little bitches
March 31st, 2007 at 4:38 amThis website is so ignorant. Iran is protecting its border just like any country would do. WE are the ones who attacked Iraq for no reason whatsoever. If America wasn’t trying to be the bully of the world none of this would be happening. And as far as our military being killed…SO WHAT. The dummies deserve it, Most of them are the lowest common denominator of society and I say good riddence to bad rubbish.
March 31st, 2007 at 5:52 amTo James …..”This website is so ignorant. Iran is protecting its border just like any country would do. WE are the ones who attacked Iraq for no reason whatsoever. If America wasn’t trying to be the bully of the world none of this would be happening. And as far as our military being killed…SO WHAT. The dummies deserve it, Most of them are the lowest common denominator of society and I say good riddence to bad rubbish.”
James, you’re an absolute idiot… and posting something such as this shows what an ignorant, worthless piece of dung you are. If you don’t like this country… MOVE!! Real Americans have no use for you. If it weren’t for our military…. you know what…. fuck this… you don’t deserve any more comment… dumb fuck….
Chad, you should block stupid shit like this.
April 1st, 2007 at 4:31 pmChad…. You should block shit like this out…
James blathers ignorantly: “And as far as our military being killed…SO WHAT. The dummies deserve it, Most of them are the lowest common denominator of society and I say good riddence to bad rubbish.”
Good riddance to bad rubbish? I certainly hope I get to meet you soon. Up close & personal!! Speaking of low common denominators, get a spell checker.
April 1st, 2007 at 4:40 pmWow james, your incredibly immature. How do you think you even have the right to criticize the government without fear of the standard issue boot kicking in your door?
April 1st, 2007 at 4:44 pmTo denigrate those that wear the uniform and relishing their death shows how empty you are. You do not have the strength and wisdom to choose between right and wrong. You may grow up one day, but I doubt it.
If you are anywhere near Charlotte NC, let me know, I would like to discuss your views in person.
Wow James,
April 1st, 2007 at 9:34 pmWhere to start… At first I was going to ignore your immature and ignorant rantings. However, I feel I must speak my mind. My dilemma was this; how do I enlighten this angry and apparently uneducated person. I first thought to appeal to your logic. As in, if we did not have a military we would not have all of the freedoms that we so take for granted in this country. I would have also pointed out that the number of military men and women who hold college degrees is disproportionally higher than the civilian population. I would have pointed out that those in the military possess traits that are actually even more valuable than a higher education—namely integrity, courage, and an unfailing sense of duty to their country and fellow citizens. Hardly, characteristics of societal lowest common denominators. I would have listed other arguments to appeal to or rather try to awaken the logical side of you. Then thinking better of it, I decided to appeal to your compassion. I am an Army wife. My husband is fighting in Iraq. Personally, I find your words hurtful and offensive. I would like to remind you of all the children, like my 5 boys, who have had to say good-bye to their parents. Yet, these brave (very) young Americans know in their hearts that it is necessary and honorable to fight for what is right and to protect those you love. I would like to make you see that your life is being protected by the very ones whom you so easily dismiss as disposable. I would like to ask you to have compassion and ,dare I ask, respect for our soldiers and marines.
Yes, James I thought of all these arguments to present to you and appeals to awaken your sensibilities. However, I decided to stray from logic and just speak to you from my heart. I believe truly, without a doubt, that you are simply a piece of shit.
Yours truly
and sexually deprived for your freedom,
(please no need to thank me)
Heather
Responding to James, and people like him, is not worth our time. People like this have a simplistic, narrow and selfish view of the world and do not understand why they can say what they can say and do what they can do. He will never understand what it means to better one’s self and keep other people from taking away what they worked so hard to build.
He doesn’t understand that we didn’t attack Iraq. He doesn’t understand that America is not a bully. He doesn’t understand that we didn’t cause anything that is currently happening. He doesn’t realize what is going on now is the direct result of people who attacked the US for being so great and they are jealous of what we have. He doesn’t understand why it is much easier to try and tear down something so great than to understand why and how it was built to begin with, and continue to make it better. He is not interested in facts, logic and the truth which proves our military personnel is more educated than the common American.
He doesn’t understand that our military is fighting for his right to be able to say what he says, that is, if he really is an American. He doesn’t understand where he would be if it weren’t for our incredible men and women in the armed forces of the great United States of America. He doesn’t understand that he probably owes his very existence to those same men and women throughout the history of the great Unites States of America.
I always find it interesting that people on the right will entertain and consider the thoughts of people on the left, but the left, even more so the extreme left, will never do the same.
April 1st, 2007 at 10:56 pmDEPORT LIBERALS TO KANADA!
Seriously, if they just want to fuckin’ stick vibrators up their ass and pretend that war (heugh!) isn’t good for anything, such as saving civilization as we know it, or preserving human life, let’s round them up (they won’t fight back) and drop them off in West Bumfuck, Ontario, and they can find out just how great universal health care really is when they die waiting in line for cancer treatment.
April 2nd, 2007 at 3:28 amJames, you’re a stupid fuckweed, but I look forward to defend your right to be a fuckweed. But step off this blog’s collective dick, please.