Massive Epidemic Of “Racist” Rapes Of “White Christian” Women By “Immigrant Muslim” Men Sweeps Europe. Police In South Of France: 80% Committed By Muslims, 30% Muslim Gang Rapes. Muslims Blame “Provocative Occidental Women”. Norwegian University: Western Women Must Change Culture And Appearance To Adapt To Influx Of Male Muslims
This article appeared three days ago in Global Politician, which bills itself as a non-partisan “independent magazine providing objective, in-depth analysis of events in the world today.”
Excerpts: Tensta is a suburb in northern Stockholm with a very high concentration of Muslim immigrants. Actress Ylva Törnlund has visited several schools in Tensta, and was alarmed by the harsh atmosphere she discovered there. “The attitudes we meet in the schools are frightening. One boy talked about how girls should be f**ked to pieces until they bleed,” Törnlund said.
This trend is not exclusive to Scandinavia. It is the same all over Western Europe wherever we find significant numbers of Muslim immigrants. In fact, the number of rapes committed by Muslim immigrants in Western nations is so extremely high that it is difficult to view them only as random acts of individuals. It resembles warfare. German journalist Gudrun Eussner considers this to be “sexuality as a weapon against disobedient and non-Muslim women, both categorized as “unbelievers”. Against them jihad is the duty, and what to do with women “conquered” in jihad, this may be read in the Qur’an: they become slaves to be used by the victors.”
Linda, 18. Swedish victim of Muslim gang rape. From front page of Swedish newspaper, Express.
A report from organization Save the Children tells of how being a young Swedish girl today means feeling unsafe. The girls are scared of being raped, a possibility that appears very real to them.
In 2001, two out of three charged with rape in Norway’s capital were immigrants with a non-western background according to a police study. Norwegian women were victims in 80 percent of the cases.
A 17-year-old Somalian was convicted of the rape of a young girl in Oslo one year ago. The court stated that the rape was unusually brutal and lasted for several hours. The Somalian choked the girl for so long that the medical doctor who examined the girl said that she could have died. The girl is now suffering from severe psychological problems in the aftermath of the attack. The youth was sentenced to four and half years in prison. The sentence also included another rape, where his Norwegian-Moroccan friend raped a 13-year-old girl whilst the Somalian helped to threaten her and keep guard. She has been traumatized from the incident.
Unni Wikan, a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo, in 2001 said that “Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes” because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor’s conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: “Norwegian women must realize that we live in a Multicultural society and adapt themselves to it.”
In Norway, it is probably unprecedented in the thousand years since the city of Oslo was founded at the end of the Viking Age that the indigenous population is being attacked on such a large scale for the sole reason of being white and Christian. And the government is doing… well, pretty much nothing really, except for hiding the problem as much as possible. This isn’t good enough. I have earlier called for the resignation of Swedish PM Göran Persson for his government’s total inability to protect a population that pays the highest taxes in the world. Perhaps the time has come for calling for the resignation of Norwegian PM Jens Stoltenberg and his cabinet, too.
“…a retired chief of police, who used to be in charge of the security of a major city in the south of France. He reported to me that his men had to face an average of 10 rapes a week, 80% made by Muslim young men. 30% being what we call, in French, a “tournante,” meaning that the victim is being raped by an entire gang, one after the other, often during an entire night.” “He was astonished that, in most cases, the parents not only would back up their rapist children, but also would not even understand why they would be arrested. There is an instant shift in the notion of good and evil as a major component of culture. The only evil those parents would see, genuinely, is the temptation that the male children had to face. Since in most cases the victims were not Muslims, the parents’ answer and rejection was even more genuine: how could their boys be guilty of anything, when normally answering to a provocation by occidental women, known for their unacceptable behavior?”
According to Rehov, “I can see in any raping of a non-Muslim woman by a Muslim male a racist action, and it is high time for us to acknowledge and condemn it. The level of contempt towards non-Muslim women is the reflection of the level of hatred towards the society which creates equality between men and women.”
We are tired of hearing nonsense about “Islamophobia” and xenophobia while our children live in fear of Islamic terrorism and our daughters cannot go home after dark out of fear of gang rapes by Muslim youngsters who view them as whores. The purpose of the state is to uphold law and order and maintain the nation’s borders and territorial integrity. Western European governments are doing neither, yet are busy with political censorship and interfering with details of our private lives where they have no business.
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Boy did I make the right career choice.
I got so mad after reading this that I had to get on my face and do 20.
Seeing those women makes me real fuckin’ mad.
April 13th, 2007 at 6:09 amWhat? Westerners have to adapt the influx of muslums???
What? The fault of violent crime is the victim???
Liberalists are responsible for this kind of thinking..
And let me guess…. the musulim offenders are not violating their religion because the women are infidels!
We’re on the foot hills toward WW3.
I wanna believe I could make it through boot camp @ 46.
April 13th, 2007 at 6:13 amD-E-P-O-R-T-A-T-I-O-N.
That’s how you spell it.
April 13th, 2007 at 6:19 amI found a sane in leader in an insane world,
Australian PM says top Muslim cleric ‘a joke’
AFP
Friday, April 13, 2007 10:53 IST
SYDNEY: Prime Minister John Howard on Friday suggested that Australians should treat the country’s senior Muslim cleric as ‘a joke’.
Howard made the comment after Egyptian-born mufti Sheikh Taj Aldin al-Hilali reportedly said he was ‘more Australian’ than the prime minister, whom he likened to former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.
The clash is the latest in a series of controversies to embroil Hilali, who provoked widespread outrage last year when he described scantily-clad women as ‘uncovered meat.’
Howard said in a radio interview that he was not bothered by Hilali’s latest comments, which were reported in The Australian newspaper.
“I’m tempted to say we should start treating the man as a joke and in relation to his comments about me, well, I’ve been insulted by experts so I’m rather untroubled by them,” Howard said.
But he repeated an earlier call for Australia’s Islamic community to sack Hilali as mufti “because he is bringing ridicule upon them.”
full article here:
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1090598
Drive On,
Steve in NC
April 13th, 2007 at 6:28 amWhere are the Swedish men?
I’m young, but I was raised by good Lutheran, Conservative parents, and I was taught that you don’t let women walk around the streets alone at night, you watch out for them, even if they didn’t like it. And if it was dangerous during the day, you’d escort them then, too. As for my peers, I can’t say, but only observe that when a 250+ pound Chicago pig was wailing on a 150 pound woman bartender, there was not a man in the room willing to pick up a barstool and solve the problem.
These stories are a reminder that the West has had it too easy for too long–our culture has become so emasculated that most guys my age (where I live, in Missouri) have not only never fired a gun, but think there is something actively wrong with people who choose to exercise their 2nd Amendment right. The MTV generation likes to watch “Real Ultimate Fighting,” so they can get half a thrill without ever being in any danger themselves.
I’ve been doing some reflecting on my life in these last few days I have before boot-camp; going through old letters, college bullshit, clothes… and I find that while I may have worked hard, I haven’t accomplished hardly anything. With one exception.
I protected a friend of mine from being molested and possibly worse while she was passed out drunk (by some moose of a dude who was her “friend.”) Proudest moment of my life.
April 13th, 2007 at 6:30 amI feel so sorry for Europe right now. It’s my beleif that it’s the men’s fault for not standing up and protecting their lands from an incognito invasion. Now, the women are suffering, as well as everyone’s way of life. This isn’t going to happen in my town or my country as long as I’m alive.
April 13th, 2007 at 6:37 amRumsfeld47 -
they listen to ABBA, which has been proven to eliminate testosterone in males
in other words, they got no balls
good point, I remember a resident from New Orleans who was helping people escape the flood and he said to a reporter, “it is time for men to be men”
It was the best comment from that mess I saw.
Drive On,
Steve in NC
April 13th, 2007 at 6:43 amThere is no rehabilitation to Muslim justification of these crimes. There is no rehabilitation to 99% of sex criminals. A bullet to the neck - through spinal cord -works best - dont ya think?
This way the libs can stay busy caring for and spewing their ideal of talk to the quadrapalegic perpetrators. Best is, the perpetrators don’t to go to allah with courage.
April 13th, 2007 at 6:47 amThis is just more proof that we need to be more vocal against the facists. Hiding behind a religion whether it is global warming or Islam to commit atrocities against women needs to dealt with by swift justice. A .22 does just as good a job as a rope, or 50,000 volts… The Europeans need to realize they are under attack, letting the small minority intimidate the peaceful population is a very real repeat of what the brownshirts did in the 1930’s…
Appeasement will not cure this, it will only encourage worse actions. When criminals know there are very real reprisals, they will not be so brazen. Telling your women they are teh cause of rape is so wrong, the liberals are the ones that first raised the cry against this in our country, and pushed for justice against rapists, but now they prefer that we do nothing.
When their women are raped or worse, then they wil be crying out that not enough was done to stop this. They are also the ones when those rapists are caught, they want to rehabilitate them, and release them back into society, as long as that happens in aomeone else’s neighborhood. Let that neighborhood be Venzuela or Cuba, or better yet, let them be rehabilitated in Palestine and Iran
April 13th, 2007 at 6:48 amYou want the whole story? Read Brussels Journal. What is going on in Northern Europe is enough to make you sick; whole areas of Brussels, Denmark, Norway and Sweeden taken over by Muslim thugs. People robbed, beaten up and raped on the streets. Public transport no longer safe to travel, train conductors beaten to a pulp by immigrant thugs.
April 13th, 2007 at 6:54 amAnd, what is the reaction of the gov’t? We need to be more tolerant…
Last year, the annual Christmas community pot luck in Belgium was tainted by an advisory NOT to bring any pork products to the feast! The Muslims might be annoyed by this… Why the hell a Muslim would want to come to a Christian celebration is beyond me. Let them slaughter their goats in the streets for their festivals, I’ll stay away…
Yunz guys, I hate to say it but if we here in this country don’t watch out we’re next.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/ is reporting on the continued tailspin into Sharia in Minnesota.
Meanwhile, over at michellemalkin.com, hot off her FNC success last night, Michelle has yet another example of how you can kick around Christ in “art” … and NOT fear death.
The world is not only upside down, but inside out …
Also, the EU is in for much, much worse than rape as a result of their appeasement, yet again, to thugs.
April 13th, 2007 at 7:02 amAll together on the count of three FART!!!! lets show
April 13th, 2007 at 7:08 amthe infadel who’s “BOSS” around here…
So what do we do when 10% or more of the illegals here in the US continue to get away with crime - repeatedly? Are we supposed to escort all women?
Society needs to serve its purpose or we’ll be the same as Europe soon. We don’t have the luxury to let libs go on as they are. To let:
- illegals be legally protected at our cost,
- ACLU make victims the fault of the crime
- liberal public outcry cause a man to lose his lively hood
- allow any kind of citizenship for illegals - amnesty or not amnesty - they get to the other side of the border and to the back of the line.
- defend illegals based on keeping an immigrant family together
- libs argue that citizenship also makes extended family citizens. (current interpretation of law can result in 273 legal immigrants from 1 (ONE) legalized citizen.
- yada yada yada
I could go on and on.
We are NOT a soverign nation. ….Because Lib thinking keeps our borders un-restricted against illegal entry.
Its our home war and its against liberalism. Iraq is more urgent, and very very important, but there might not be the same homeland
April 13th, 2007 at 7:12 amThe comments by the Senior Muslim Cleric of Australia that Steve in NC cited, have actually twice now been intentionally downplayed by the Left MSM. They reported that he insulted women by comparing them to uncovered meat. He actually made that statement to excuse many young Australian Muslims who had raped Australian women. What he actually said was; “The problem is the women are liked meat left uncovered….the cat will devour it…” ie, blaming the women’s attire for their rape.
And as for yesterday’s statement that he was “more Australian” than the Prime Minister, that too downplays what he actually said. He actually said that Muslims “are more entitled to Australia” than the Australians. This is obviously more sinister, because it communicates a claim to the land, and telegraphs his desire to make that claim real.
April 13th, 2007 at 7:14 amBrad W- The Europeans need to realize they are under attack, letting the small minority intimidate the peaceful population is a very real repeat of what the brownshirts did in the 1930’s…
Exactly, when the hell are they going to wake up? its a damn shame how history repeats itself.
April 13th, 2007 at 7:17 amHow are the Muslims more entitled to it? Did the Caliphate ever cover the south Pacific?
April 13th, 2007 at 7:24 amPat,
Yep. The world needs to wake up … Christian, Catholic, Buddhist, Agnostic, Atheist, Global Warmist, 7th Day Olberman Worshipers, Rosie Witnesses, whatever … The Crusades are on, and we’re all in the cross hairs.
April 13th, 2007 at 7:28 amstarkc,
It has now …
April 13th, 2007 at 7:29 amDo fat ugly chicks have to wear a burka?
April 13th, 2007 at 7:31 amJohn: “Are we supposed to escort all women?”
Only the attractive ones, John.
April 13th, 2007 at 7:34 amRumsfeld47
In my area of PA where the diet is lard, dough, donughts and gravy, the only attractive ones amount to 2% of the population.
Can DO!
April 13th, 2007 at 7:42 amWhat’s up MHP, good to drag a fellow soldier into the thread.
These people deserve no mercy.
And a heads up people, keep your eyes on Minnesota, it’s become the western center for muslim extremists. They are starting to resemble London!!
April 13th, 2007 at 7:56 amYour jokes about whether women are attractive or not fall on deaf ears…
April 13th, 2007 at 8:04 amWould you like to have your 55 year old Mother robbed, raped and beaten up just because she is no longer attractive?
Donuts and fat to one side, we are fighting here for the continuance of our culture. I would hope that all you viral men would step in to stop a crime to your mothers (or your ugly sisters)…
Well, I can see the next front that our military heroes will be deployed to. Countries that don’t or won’t protect themselves and their citizens absolutely suck.
April 13th, 2007 at 8:08 amBabs, my mom is pretty hot for a 50-something year old. Come to think of it, my Grandma ain’t bad, either.
We’re only joking, Babs. Kind of like how it’s okay for women to tell people publicly that a man has a small penis or he has trouble getting it up.
April 13th, 2007 at 8:08 amIt was in referrence to the fact that women not covered up incited uncontrollable and violent acts of breeding by the savages, that it is their fault for not hiding their physical appearence. So using such insane logic could concede that a woman not as physically attractive does not need to wear the big hefty bag.
And yes I have come to defense of ‘damsels in distress’ including a very elderly lady struggling with a purse snatcher as the balless men of the new castratti looked on.
Drive On,
Steve
April 13th, 2007 at 8:20 amWell Rumsfelf, I have never joked in that way…
I am offended by comments here about who should be saved and who shouldn’t… You might want to think about that.
We are in a fight for our cultural existance. Mothers and Grandmothers have every right to exist, as do hot young things.
Just because you want to screw younger women doesn’t mean that older women that raised YOU should be denegrated. I have two sons, one is in the Navy. I RESENT comments about who should be saved and who shouldn’t.
You did say you were going into the Marines? Maybe it was some other service. You should think about what I am saying. We are all worthy of our culture. Just because I am no longer of breeding age shouldn’t deter you from “saving me” if I were being raped or beat up on the streets. This is what has gone terribly wrong in Northern Europe….
April 13th, 2007 at 8:25 amThis is a perfect example of what happens when the populace lets the Gov’t disarm them.
You want MY GUNS? Come & try to take them away from me!!!
April 13th, 2007 at 8:33 amLock and Load Gramps!
DEFEND THE 2ND AMENDMENT, WE ARE GOING TO NEED IT
April 13th, 2007 at 8:37 amI have no doubt that the Marines will be fighting in europe with in the next 10 years….
April 13th, 2007 at 8:42 amYou know Gramps, I refer you to Brussels Journal. A psychologist wrote an extended article about what is going on in Oslo. She interviewed many Muslim young men. The cruxt of the story was that the indiginous population was so passive, expected the gov’t to take care of them to such an extent that they just stood by and watched as others were being beaten and robbed… Of course,they had no weapons as this was something completely frowned upon in their country…
April 13th, 2007 at 8:44 amThe Muslim young men said it was kind of shooting ducks in a pond. They would set out against a native Swede and, expected no violence from passers by. In other words, the citizenry of the country has been completely castrated and expects the gov’t to deal with any violent situation…
Instead of dealing with the violence, the gov’t takes the slimy way out by telling the indiginous population that somehow, it is their fault that immigrants are not able to assimilate and, that they should try harder to make them welcome…
This is a recipe for disaster as Northern Europeans are finding out. Their culture is being taken over by immigrants from Northern Africa.
Boy, I’m in the mood for pushups.
In Michigan several years ago, I worked for Interlochen Arts Camp as a recording engineer. Well, the employees liked to party, and one night on the beach, some poor girl was getting drunk for the first (and probably last) time. By the time we were ready to leave, she had pissed herself, puked on herself, and there was sandy piss and sandy puke all over her. Everybody else wanted to leave her there (at a state park), which would have meant her job. I tried to pick her up and could not. I called over four more beefcake guys, and we could not pick her up. (She must have weighed 300 pounds, no shit.) They wanted to leave her. She pissed herself again. Her clothes were coming off at this point (on their own).
In a fit of brilliance, I shined the light in her eye, pretended to be a state-trooper, and got her on her feet, and shouldered her 100 yards to our car, and sat in the backseat with her on the way back, propping her up, adjusting her clothes, and trying to keep her hands away from my dick.
SO DON’T TELL ME I’VE NEVER DONE NOTHING FOR A FAT CHICK.
The lesson here is: don’t party with any chicks you can’t carry yourself.
April 13th, 2007 at 8:48 amBabs - You missed the point. Rush put it best, “using absurdity to demonstrate the absurd.”
April 13th, 2007 at 8:51 amRumsfeld - Do you really need to be so rude? Are you under the impression that no woman has ever done that for a man?
April 13th, 2007 at 8:58 amI am here to tell you that for time immorial women have been dragging drunken men home from parties…
We are all in this together; the young men, young women, fathers, mothers, grandmothers and grandfathers… If you want your culture to survive, you must protect all of us.
Right fuckin’ on, Gramps
April 13th, 2007 at 9:00 amOK Greg, I’ll climb down off my high horse…
April 13th, 2007 at 9:02 amI have the greatest respoect for the men and women that wear the uniform of the United States of America… I want every one of them to live up to my expectations, including my own son…
Well, speak of the Devil in Prada:
Don’t Link Terrorism and Islam, EU Tells Gov’t Spokesmen
By Eva Cahen
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200704/INT20070412f.html
Babs,
Re: “The cruxt of the story was that the indiginous population was so passive, expected the gov’t to take care of them to such an extent that they just stood by and watched as others were being beaten and robbed… ”
Hmmm, reminds me of New Orleans before and after Katrina.
April 13th, 2007 at 9:08 amkeep it coming, once this gets 10x worse then europe will wake up and fight back. The sooner it gets worse the better, before we have no population left to do it.
April 13th, 2007 at 9:13 amBabs, quit giving me the Sharpton. As I said above,
“We’re only joking.”
“I protected a friend of mine from being molested and possibly worse while she was passed out drunk (by some moose of a dude who was her “friend.”) Proudest moment of my life.”
And not only did I not do the easy thing (that everybody else wanted to do) and leave the beached whale where she lay, covered in two rounds of vomit and urine and rolled in sand, I personally shouldered her for 100 yards off that beach, and sat next to her for the 20 minute ride home.
Now, no doubt, women have been putting up with drunk guys, but let’s reverse genders in that situation. There’s a 300 pound 18 year old boy on the beach, covered in his own piss, puke, with a light sand dusting, and he can’t get up. So you call try to pick him up, and you can’t. So you call five other gals over, and you all try to pick him up, but you can’t. Then he pisses himself and pukes again, and then his dick starts hanging out. Everybody else wants to leave, and you refuse, grab a flashlight, play “Ranger Mike”, shoulder him off the beach, and sit next to him on the ride home, and try to keep his filthy hands off your tits the whole way way home.
I’m sorry, but my suspension of disbelief stopped at “you can’t pick him up.”
I’m here to tell you, Babs, that if you seriously think our tasteless jokes, which have no taste at all, mean that we wouldn’t sacrifice our lives (in a heartbeat) for our mothers, grandmas, and sisters, you’re mentally damaged and probably need counseling. No matter what jokes I’ve made, I’ve gone above and beyond the call of duty (for nearly all men my age, anyway), and that demonstrates far more about my character than jokes about beached whales, and so forth.
April 13th, 2007 at 9:15 amP.S.
My Grandparents who were from Hungary and had been kids over there during WWI, and were here during WWII, (thankfully or Hitler might have tossed them in the furnaces too), expressed to me, when I was a kid and a young adult, that Hitler was able to run through Europe like crap through a goose because the general population was not permitted gun ownership over there.
Hell, unless I’m wrong, the cops in England rarely, if ever, carry guns.
I don’t own a gun. I’ve never owned a gun. I’ve never wanted to own a gun. I have, however, more than enjoyed the fact that IF I wanted to purchase and own a gun I have the right to do just that.
I’m thinking about “thinking about” owning a gun …
April 13th, 2007 at 9:18 amOK Rumsfeld, you tried to make a joke. You might consider my point of view… No, I have never had to carry an obese person off the beach.
April 13th, 2007 at 9:26 amI have done a whole lot of things to support our way of life. Maybe I am a bit touchy… We are at war and, I am terribly concerned.
Yes, your jokes are tasteless. I’ll let them go.
Read Brussels Journal. Read what our country will be like in 20 years if we don’t stop this insanity…
It really isn’t a joking matter in my mind.
I love our country. I love all the upstanding citizens that we have. I pray every day that our gov’t will come to its senses. I read about what is happening in other western countries and it scares me.
I guess that really is it. I am scared…
drillanwr:
The longer you have and use that gun, the more proficient with it you will be.
Every day you are a hair’s breadth away from savagery.
Are you prepared to deal with it?
April 13th, 2007 at 9:29 amThanks, Pat.
My mind is in gear … My ass is catching up.
April 13th, 2007 at 9:31 amIt took me until 41.
April 13th, 2007 at 9:46 amGramps,
April 13th, 2007 at 9:49 amYou completely hit the mark! I have a small but potent firearms collection. My favorite being the 12gauge 181/2in barrel 6round with a 6round side saddle that sits right next to my bed.
I wonder how many rapes would happen after gang rapist started getting cut in half with 12gauge slugs?
I had no idea this was going on over there. Absolutely disgusting, but not nearly as disgusting as nothing being done about it.
Comment on Massive Epidemic Of “Racist” Rapes Of “White Christian ……
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April 13th, 2007 at 10:04 amHaving worked for a War Crimes Prosecutor, Pierre Prosper, who got rape declared an act of Genocide & a Crime Against Humanity during the trials for the Rwandan fiasco during the Clinton years… I gotta say - our country needs a LOT more fellas like you guys speaking out.
And when women don’t have tough guys to escort ‘em around - I recommend they do what my father taught me to do: master the art of a .38 Special, get a concealed carry, and kick ass as necessary.
April 13th, 2007 at 10:39 amGoddamn this article pissed me off. Why should I have to adapt to a relgion not my own????? It’s one thing to be respectful while visiting a muslim country, but in the USA I should be able to wear short shorts and a belly shirt or a skirt and not cover my hair if I want to. The woman who said that the non muslim women should adjust is being WAYYYYY to P.C. We should dress how we want to, not how someone else wants us to.
April 13th, 2007 at 10:47 amThis crap in Sweden has been going on for a long time. I posted about it back in 2004.
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dillanwr - cops in england aren’t legally allowed to carry guns, unless they’re part of an elite tactical group. the name of the group slips my mind. only the feds over there can carry guns. the crime rate is so damn high, that the don’t bother investigation robberies, or misdemeanors. they only go for the once with the obvious evidence staring at them, which is few and far between. England is a sad story of citizen’s being disarmed, while criminals run rampant and without fear.
April 13th, 2007 at 11:29 amHi Pat,
Within an hour of the 9/11 attacks our offices were evacuated and we were sent home (I work near another World Trade Center and word was that all the big ones were under attack - gossip by scary none the less) anyways, scrambling to get on the next train, I noticed a group of muslim men (8) sitting together having the biggest laugh & slapping each others backs - It became frightenly clear to me at that moment that the world is in deep shit.
I also noticed that when I drive around in the morning in the suberbs, you see small amounts of kids waiting for buses to take them to school - when you get to the more “downtrodden” areas where the muslims live, there are HUNDREDS of kids waiting for school buses. Do you get where this is going?
Europe is usually considered the world trend setters - what happens there eventually will happen here.
What a mess - not withstanding any giant muslim swiffers coming down from the skies any time soon to save us all - I highly recommend that any girls that wander around showing any summer skin (like I tend to do) get us some pepper spray or some other deterrent and keep alert.
KJ
ps: stay safe in Iraq Pat.
April 13th, 2007 at 11:36 amLCpl Jim,
Semper Fi man! If history has to repeat, then lets do a repeat of Hiroshima and nagasaki in the Middle East.
Babs, I would and have gladly stepped in to stop a crime against less than model grade women. If it happens again, so be it, but the first time the woman attacks me for helping her,,, lock and load.
Reno, double aught buckshot would be much better ar cutting them in half, and make a better graphic picture for the bastards. We used a Mossberf 870 with a pistol grip, 00 bucksot to cut down 5 inch diameter pines when I was stationed in North Carolina, what a hoot. 20 feet from the trees, cuts’em right in half. What do you expect from a couple drunk Jarheads???
Oh, Rummy?? that line of shit you talk, it’s fun in the recruiting office, everyone talks a big line then. You get to basic, forget all about that BS. the Corps is all about protecting our Country, our women, our way of life, and respecting those who will not or cannot serve. Just back off on the trash talk, you’ll be about a year ahead of the other guys when you get to active duty.. I do agree with a lot of the POLITICAL stuff you say, I won’t trash talk all women in general, just the 4 or 4 I’ve met in the past 40 years that qualify for the “C” word..
April 13th, 2007 at 11:42 amAfter reading this I may just have to change my username. To all reading this who are husbands and/or have daughters;TEACH YOUR WOMEN TO SHOOT!! Long after I have assumed room temp.,my two girls will still be hearing “Center mass, center mass, center mass dammit!” The situation in the Netherlands is disgusting but, thank God, (and I mean that literally) we can still avoid this here. A brief example follows.
Here where I live, out on the Great Plains, we were hit with back-to-back ice storms. The first hit the week before Christmas, (we lost elec. for 5 days), then, the following week (Saturday) we got nailed again with what some weathermen were calling a 100 year weather event. Several hundred miles of high voltage power line went down. We were on generator power (yes, I’m a bit of a survivalist) for 1 week and some, in the most remote parts of surrounding counties were out for nearly 1 month. One of the local radio guys asked a member of law enforcement why there was no looting, etc. The officer’s tone said as much as his words but his reply was priceless. “Are you serious?! Every one of these citizens is armed with at least a shotgun! Bad guys know if they would have tried anything they would have gotten blown away.” I have tried to find this quote so I could post it verbatim but have not been able to. Anyway, I guess the moral to the story is; If you look like food, you’ll be eaten, if you don’t, you won’t.
April 13th, 2007 at 11:44 amI want to edit my last line from the previous post. I should have said “if you ACT like food etc, etc” Sorry
April 13th, 2007 at 11:47 amUhm, excuse me, but, uhm…….
I can very well imagine how angry this article makes you all. But it might be good to put my 5 cents-thoughts/experiences here as well.
“We”, (refering to the people here in Western Europe who are facing this kind of stuf every day) have learned by now that “They” (refering to the extremist Muslims who are taking over our society) have more rights.
When “We” stand up for ourselves, we are drastically “shown our place”. Our governement, other politicians, vips (singers, writers, actors and so on) will get abused to constantly brainwash “Us” that in-tollerance is not the answer (trough the MSM), that “We” have to respect “Them”, that “We” are the like of neo-nazis, that “We” are Islamofobic, that “We” are wrong and the bad guys and that “We” create a hatred that is most of the times compared with the hate of the Nazis against the Jews.
And it’s “Us” who end up in jail after “We” refuse to give up our handbag after being robbed by two Muslim youngsters, “We” who have to pay the fines orderded by the judge as punishment for being a racist.
It’s “Us” who became the outkast and to end my 5 cents:
“There’s not a fricking thing we can do about it”.
After WWII we got occupied al over again. But you can only whisper about that, always on your tip-toes that nobody will “crusify” you about your thoughts and wispers.
Don’t complain about a sheep being slaugtered on the balcony above you so the blood is pouring down your window. Don’t say a word about garbage being thrown from the second floor right before your feet. Stay inside after dark to avoid being bullied by large groups of Islamic youngsters who then own the streets. And when you get pestered till the moment see red before your eyes? Don’t, again, don’t take action cause the police will come and take YOU and secure the purpetrators.
Yes, “We” have learned to ajust otherwise “We” are the ones who get punished.
And “We” are also aware of the fact that everything “They” do is covered up. Cause “They” have such a difficult live over here, which is “Our” sole responsability. “We” are the bad ones, not “Them”.
At this very moment certain “activists” here in Holland scream hell and damnation about the fact that the compass that’s painted on prison-cell-ceilings are interpreted wrong, so a Muslim could pray to the West mistakenly and not to the East.
If it wouldn’t be so sad, one could laugh his/her ass of about such stupidity.
Just another day in Eurabia.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:05 pmBrad, you’re giving me a headache. I’m 24 for God’s sake, and smart as hell–I’ve heard the same advice from so many different people in so many different places, I’ve done my homework, I respect women, yeah we talk shit in the recruiter’s office, yeah it’ll change when I go to bootcamp, et cetera. I am NOT your average poolee.
“Corps is all about protecting our Country, our women, our way of life, and respecting those who will not or cannot serve.” I had no idea, sir!
I said it before in a different news story–consider my screen name a warning; I cannot be held responsible for people who take my BS seriously!
So, to be clear, it’s okay for you to go into detail about shotgun surgery, but I can’t say, “The lesson here is: don’t party with any chicks you can’t carry yourself.”? Way to stand on principle.
The only principle I see from all this preaching (you’re not the only one) is that putting a poolee in his place makes you feel like more of a man.
Sorry, but I’m tired of it. 15 pushups for this post, brings my current total to 80.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:15 pm“MileHighPatriot
I feel so sorry for Europe right now. It’s my beleif that it’s the men’s fault for not standing up and protecting their lands from an incognito invasion. Now, the women are suffering, as well as everyone’s way of life. This isn’t going to happen in my town or my country as long as I’m alive.
Just give it 30 years friend, it will happen
April 13th, 2007 at 12:15 pmThe emasculation of men that has spread through Eurabia and now invading America sickens me. Grab your balls and stand up for your women. To even think about assimilating to muslim culture is disgusting, we are at war, we need to out reproduce them. Drink up
April 13th, 2007 at 12:22 pm“Babs
Well Rumsfelf, I have never joked in that way…
I am offended by comments here about who should be saved and who shouldn’t… You might want to think about that.
We are in a fight for our cultural existance. Mothers and Grandmothers have every right to exist, as do hot young things.
Just because you want to screw younger women doesn’t mean that older women that raised YOU should be denegrated. I have two sons, one is in the Navy. I RESENT comments about who should be saved and who shouldn’t.
You did say you were going into the Marines? Maybe it was some other service. You should think about what I am saying. We are all worthy of our culture. Just because I am no longer of breeding age shouldn’t deter you from “saving me” if I were being raped or beat up on the streets. This is what has gone terribly wrong in Northern Europe….”
Thicken your skin Babs, it was obvious he was joking. If you can’t take male humor then cry about it somewhere else. I am sure the guys your talking to would be the first to stop and help you, learn to take a joke.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:24 pmJust have to throw in another two-cents worth on the whole mess in the Netherlands. To me at least, the whole mess should illustrate what happens when the concept of “e pluribus unum” (from many, One) is thrown under the bus.
My maternal grandfather came here from Denmark at the age of 19. He spoke not one word of English when he arrived, yet not my mother nor her two siblings spoke Danish. Why? When I asked my mom about this she told me that “Daddy was so proud to be an American and English was the language of his new country.He was embarrassed when he heard emigrants speaking their native language in public.” He had been here for nearly 10 years before his first child,my uncle, was born so he’d learned to speak English fair. This same uncle, by the way, was seriously wounded on Guadalcanal during WWII. I have the original telegram Grand-dad recieved informing him of his son’s injuries. Funny, mom never mentioned her dad joining any anti-war protests afterwards. Different times I suppose.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:33 pmBrad W,
the longest straightline distance in my house is probably only 20 feet so i would prefer to concentrate the lead. just personal preference.
I agree with the 00buck, that is why they are the last 2 rounds out, keep heads down while I reload.
i also have a red ryder bbgun that i shoot in my suburban backyard. amazing how a little bbgun can keep my marksmanship sharp in between trips to the range. marksmanship is a perishable skill and i dont want to end up rotten!!! just something to think about.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:38 pmI think you guys are missing the point here. You all are talking about treating the symptoms.
Walking women home
teaching them to shoot
allow them to dress how they want
etc. etc….
None of this matters, they will still come here and outbread us. How many of you have 7-10 children and 30-50 or more grandchildren? Muslims have a smaller generation gap and they have more per generation.
Your suggestions won’t solve ANYTHING. In 50-100 years the result will be the same, Sha’ria law. Then all this stuff will happen with impunity. The best thing that can possibly happen is that these rapes get worse and worse and happen in the US. Only then will we wake up out of our liberal slumber. 9-11 woke us up for a couple years. Then we pulled the covers back over our heads, changed the channel to CNN, and elected Nancy Pelosi to represent us to Syria, with Hilary not far behind. Pathetic.
People on this website are few. Until it happens to people on US soil we will sleep through it.
Anyway don’t you all know it’s too late. Muslims will out breed us. Their communities will continue to grow and ours will not. Without a religion based on breeding taking over we will inevitabley be bred out.
I don’t know about you guys but at 22 I got my first on the way and I plan to pop out 9 more one after another asap, all Germanic blood too.
April 13th, 2007 at 12:46 pmSpeaking of taking jokes, I hope “Ahmed” err “HAKKKMed” can lighten things up.
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/12/video-jeff-dunham-and-achmed-the-dead-terrorist/
April 13th, 2007 at 1:23 pmJeanet,
You bring to mind my correspondence on a WWII site boards with some Europeans before we went into Iraq, and France refused to even verbally support us (as we now know France was in bed with Saddam in the Oil For Food b.s.)
Anyhow, these European posters argued with me that I (and the USA, who was totally pissed at France) needed to understand there is a significant Muslim population that would become outraged if France supported us and would strike back at the French people.
I told these Euroes that I refused to EVER live life under that sort of fear and blackmail, and that they were already defeated if that’s how they felt/thought. They just couldn’t understand a word I’d said. I even had one blast back that, `Well, you have NO idea what your country did to our countries over here during WWII! All the beautiful buildings and homes destroyed! It took years to clean up and rebuild! Some things still weren’t rebuilt today!’
I countered the poor soul with, “Yeah, you’re right. I guess it would have been better if Hitler and Co. had just been allowed to march in and cremate the population … At least the buildings would have been left standing, huh?”
At that point the site moderator informed ALL posters the tone had gotten too nasty… Some of my online buddies, war veterans themselves, were punished by being blocked off the site. I informed the other posters I was outraged by this and that I was showing my support for those banned posters by leaving the boards on my own … It was clear exactly who was being appeased.
Anyhow, I’m off topic here. What I wanted to more directly address was the mind set of today’s Europe. There have been several books written by very good writers about how Europe is exactly in the same state of mind as it was just before WWII and Hitler’s rampage through Europe. I am not on my own computer right now or I’d list a couple of these book titles here.
The simplest and basic problem with Europe today is it’s 1) complete and failed social system, 2) the EU is nothing but a compilation of failed/failing “nanny states”, 3) Europe’s proclivity to bite and spit at the USA and OUR President may make Europeans feel all warm and tingly inside, but in the 21st Century (after pulling your asses out of two wars) we feel very little compassion towards you … hence making us a bit hesitant about saving your asses again … and you know it’s coming. yeah, all those eager antiAmerican, smug anarchist protesters across the pond will fall to their knees in puddles of tears of relief when they see our “murderous” troops-a-coming to save their asses. Oh, we’ll come. You know we will. It’s who we are.
Having said that, and possibly having reproached you by having said it, let me add that in the USA we have our own brand of appeasing, lazy, socialistic, asshole, Euro-types who either can’t or won’t see the road ahead that they are fixing to pave for the USA (It looks a hell of a lot like yours) … Pat will attest to the Fascist Left in control of Hollywood and the MSM, while we self-educated and well-informed members of this society see the Democrat Party in this country for what they really are: Deceiving and conniving Marxists. President Bush listed today’s “Axis of Evil” … but what hasn’t been identified out loud is that the closest Allies in the world right now are the Islamists and the Marxists/Socialists/Communists. See: Butt Buddies, Hugo Chavez and the Iranian president (He whose name I will not speak …)
So, the world is churning, possibly not quite out of control yet, but damn close … And since we in the states DO have civilians with guns the enemy will hesitate doing to us what they are doing to you in Europe right now. However, if said Democrats have their way our guns will be taken, and so will our crucial sources of non-mind-controlling media for news, such as Pat Dollard’s site here. The main religion in our country, Christianity, is being bashed and discriminated against, while Islam is currently being given every concession.
Sound paranoid? Yeah, that’s what they want us to think we are … paranoid idiots. ~HA!!!~
In closing, Jeanet, it’s not too late for you guys over there. Choose your political leaders wisely. DEMAND to become more personally responsible for your own needs and decisions … the government IS NOT G-d! The more power YOU give government, the more government takes from YOU and disappoints and fails YOU.
I know this might sound outrageous, but an underground resistance might not be out of the question in the not to distant future in Europe.
Ronald Reagan said: “Government’s first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.”
Sorry if this is way, way too long …
April 13th, 2007 at 1:27 pmWhere were you all when the Americans were bombing the Serbs for trying to deal with their “Muslim” problem? You are such hypocrites.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:11 pmROFLMAO!!!! OH! I can’t catch my breath!
It’s the Dutch that Need the Compass
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/04/its_the_dutch_t.html
April 13th, 2007 at 2:18 pmDMac,
April 13th, 2007 at 2:29 pmLike I said, not while I’m alive. Soon ‘the South will rise again.’ Of course, not literally. In the sense that Americans (real Americans (those loyal to Old Faithful, Stars and Stripes, the Constitution, the people)) will eventually stand up and fight back. This will happen either politically or socially, but perhaps physically if necessary. No loyalist in their right mind would hand this country over. That’s why I’ll end up dying for it if I need to, but I’d rather continue living for it.
Just got back and saw the post by Gramps
The right to bear arms is being threatened here in PA. I’m trying to get word out about April 24 domnstration that I came across. No details yet.
The state’s capital dicks in Harrisburg are pushing laws to extremely limit ownership rights. Next will be to take rights away.
I’ll be damed if I become the criminal simply because I own a gun.
April 13th, 2007 at 2:51 pmJohn,
I’m in NE Ohio, neighbor.
Bet you might be familiar with this quote:
“When you hear Quinn’s guns have been confiscated, then you will know Quinn is dead …”
April 13th, 2007 at 3:09 pmThis is strange, a bunch of my posts aren’t going through anymore, whats the deal?
April 13th, 2007 at 3:09 pmArea Code 213 calling.
Whenever I come here to get the real story, I often have to peak through my fingers. I can handle the images of the enemy killed or wounded, I don’t love them. I can handle most of the Dutch that gets uttered (except for the C word which is the worst of the lowliness of women derived vulgarisms). So yeah, I do a fair amount of wincing. But. I come here to learn about the bigger issues and to hear what My Soldiers have to say about what they’re going through.
Real men love their women and feel a natural punch in the gut when they hear about them being hurt. But, I have noticed that for too long society has been getting softer and softer. All of our governments have been telling us to let them handle our safety. Well they’ve given up doing that job. Do we want to call up a woman to kick some ass? No, we call the men. Well what kind of men can we expect if we’ve raised them to be appeasers?
Real men respect women without lording it all over them, and real women respect men without becoming manipulators and nags.
Uncontrolled illegal immigration, in any country, is a multicultural coup in slow motion. I was going to say bloodless, but that would not be true, would it.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:43 pmUh, peek.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:44 pmI dunno D_Mac, we don’t have any in a backlog. Probably Muslim hackers.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:56 pmNappy headed ho Muslim hackers.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:56 pmKill that Muslim woman with the holocaust sign. End of story. These extreme Muslims need to die, they disgust me.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:57 pmI was born in Holland, but now live in Orange County USA. Many of my relatives still there are not only angry about the Muslim hate and crime against them. They’re pissed because the Muslims draw the highest per capita welfare from the state too. It’s bad enough that they’re committing all these crimes. But supporting them too just adds insult to injury. GOD BLESS AMERICA!
April 13th, 2007 at 4:18 pmJohn in PA speaks:
“The right to bear arms is being threatened here in PA.”
I was reading about this elsewhere today. When I think of the Bill of Rights, I always think of Philadelphia, PA. Now PA politicians want to mess with the 2nd amendment. They should be ashamed to even say that they’re from PA.
Question: Why are the damn Dems so afraid of guns?
April 13th, 2007 at 4:20 pmDid ya hear about the granny in Austrailia whose grand daughter was raped? She was so heart broken seeing how devistated she was that granny took to the streets and after a time, she found the ass hole went home and got her gun, went the his house/apartment knocked on the door and shot the guys dick and balls off. She then went to the police department and turned herself in. The last I heard was that the cops were in a delema for not wanting to charge an 80 year old grand mother. this was verified on Snoops.. God Bless that old lady. Now where are those fucking Muslim’s? It is time to start snapping in.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:24 pmGramps - “Question: Why are the damn Dems so afraid of guns?”
Easy - it’s much more difficult for them to control you, or you may fight back, if you have a gun. Guns only do bad things; they never do anything good at all. Then again, I am sure you question was rhetorical.
I was getting closer to filing for a carry permit. A friend told me what he went through and I paused. He was treated like a criminal and got finger printed right there where they check in prisoners. He said everyone treated him like he was one.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:28 pmCalling on people to be killed is the same thing these idiots are doing… it’s pretty careless.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:37 pm0311inohio - “… this was verified on Snoops…”
I assume you meant “Snopes”. Apparently this isn’t true, but still a good read and one could hope it was.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/justice/grambo.asp
I did read one from CNN, so you know it’s true, about a woman in a wheel chair being mugged. She pulled her gun and fired, sending the guy to the hospital. He survived, but it would have been better if he would have been in a wheel chair for the rest of his life.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:40 pm“I was getting closer to filing for a carry permit.”
Here in SOCAL, we don’t even bother trying for a carry permit. If you’re not rich &/or famous ya won’t get one anyway. I gotta move to Texas…
April 13th, 2007 at 4:43 pm“”Where were you all when the Americans were bombing the Serbs for trying to deal with their “Muslim” problem? You are such hypocrites”"
A completely seperate situation that doesn’t at all fit the European model of troublesome immigrints (first and second generation). The Bosniac and Albanian muslims were indigenous and had been living there since the middle ages. Being ethnic Slavs and Europeans themselves another matter altoger.
Oh yeah, and the fact that the Bosniacs were living peacefully until Milosivic pushed the Serbian government into a more assertive and aggressive stance and attacked the autonomous zones (Essentially, the Serbs started it) would be a trivial detail wouldn’t it?
April 13th, 2007 at 4:47 pmYou’ve said it all in one brilliant posting, Alexa.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:50 pmGreg.. My bad. I read the “good” part but failed to read the whole article.
Thanks for the correction. Shit. It is time to start snapping in. 
April 13th, 2007 at 4:52 pmGramps – “Here in SOCAL, we don’t even bother trying for a carry permit. If you’re not rich &/or famous ya won’t get one anyway. I gotta move to Texas…”
I lived in Louisiana for awhile and you could have a loaded weapon sitting on your car seat as long as it was exposed. I think you could even carry one if it was completely exposed as well, without any permit. That was a number of years ago so I am sure things have changed.
I spent a month in Arizona on business and saw several people wearing side arms. I will never forget the image of a big guy on his Harley driving down the interstate with his gun barrel hanging down to the exhaust pipe. This was new to me so I asked someone locally about it. He said they have very little crime, if any, because so many people carry.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:58 pm@milehigh
‘Calling on people to be killed is the same thing these idiots are doing… it’s pretty careless.’
Don’t be stupid, you are using grade 5 logic here. I am calling on terrorists and supporters thereof to be killed, while she is calling on the killings of innocents as in the holocaust. Honestly, if you don’t understand this, I don’t care to explain it to you further.
April 13th, 2007 at 4:59 pmthe wisdom of the founding fathers…
‘‘Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.’’
— Jefferson’s “Commonplace Book,” 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764
April 13th, 2007 at 5:10 pmGreg - USA speaks:
“I lived in Louisiana for awhile and you could have a loaded weapon sitting on your car seat as long as it was exposed. I think you could even carry one if it was completely exposed as well, without any permit. That was a number of years ago so I am sure things have changed.
I spent a month in Arizona on business and saw several people wearing side arms. I will never forget the image of a big guy on his Harley driving down the interstate with his gun barrel hanging down to the exhaust pipe. This was new to me so I asked someone locally about it. He said they have very little crime, if any, because so many people carry.”
I also spend a lot of time in and around the PHX area. It’s still the same. It’s referred to as OPEN CARRY by the folks I know over there. You do have to lock it up in saddle bags or auto when you enter a business tho.
Where in Lousyana were you? I spent some time there as well. I was a guest…..sort of….LOL That was Baton Rouge.
April 13th, 2007 at 5:21 pm@Greg
While I support the right to bare arms, I don’t think it reduces crime in urban areas. You use Arizona as your example, but look at Texas, crime central. In the country, I think it prevents crime because if you live in a farm house, you can be very far from help and you need a firearm to stop a burglar, since few people could hear or see him assaulting you.
April 13th, 2007 at 5:22 pmWhen in Ramadi, one of our sniper teams shot an IED emplacer. He fled the scene in an Opel (go figure) arriving a half hour later at a Marine entry control point. They called me and asked if our snipers had shot the balls off of a bad guy. Beautiful. Controlling tomorrow’s insurgents today. Interesting concept.
April 13th, 2007 at 5:39 pmGramps - “Lousyana” - heh… I agree with that. My father was stationed at BAFB, home of the 917th, in Bossier City. I knew it was time to leave when the local government passed a law that if you were passenger in a car involved in a drive-by shooting, whether or not you had anything to do with the crime, you were guilt of the same. They also started curfews to try and combat gang violence. Well, if you HAVE to make that law…
BAFB has an SR-71 on display in their museum now. You can walk all around it and underneath. Pretty damned cool.
April 13th, 2007 at 5:42 pm“In Norway, it is probably unprecedented in the thousand years since the city of Oslo was founded at the end of the Viking Age that the indigenous population is being attacked on such a large scale for the sole reason of being white and Christian. And the government is doing… well, pretty much nothing really.”
NOT TRUE!! The Norwegian govt just hosted a kisses-and-hugs meeting with the “We Will Not Allow One Jooooo to Remain Alive in Palestine” Hamas Prime Minister…I’ll bet THAT will really inhibit these immigrant Muslim rapists, just you watch!
April 13th, 2007 at 6:05 pmWe all, as gun-owners, need to be sure that we do not let our ranks become fragmented, not only from without but from within . I refer here to conversations I have heard,typically coming from some in the shotgun-sports crowd, wondering or, worse yet, flatly stating that no one “needs” a handgun or an AR type weapon, or a .50 cal rifle. We all must stand together on this issue. If Kennedy et al get their way people, my Benelli model 92 or your Ruger 10-22 will be classified as “Assault weapons” Ask the Aussies what “reasonable gun-control” looks like. I’ve had people recoil in shock when I state that Big Brother will have to kill me to disarm me. When they ask why I typically answer that if our society comes to the point that honest citizens are being systematically disarmed by agents of OUR OWN government, I’ll be damned if I’ll make it easy for them?
Finally, if you don’t reload your own ammo, START. More than one gun-control proposal I’ve read of advocates going after the ammo,(if not by outright ban then by insanely high taxes on it) for example labeling your .270 win. deer ammo as armor piercing. Bottom line on this is without the stuff that makes them go bang, your weapons are nothing but really cool-looking clubs.
April 13th, 2007 at 6:14 pmWhat is everyone’s personal choice for carrying? I have a 9mm with 15+1 but it is too thick to hide very well. Yes, I am talking about the gun.
April 13th, 2007 at 6:44 pmKimber 45 auto and S&W 44 Mag.240 grain HP.Never get in
April 13th, 2007 at 6:58 pma fight with a gun that doesn’t start with a 4…
WE ARE SUCH SHEEP, we stand for less each day, we trade freedom for safety, When you are standing up to your rear in alligators, its hard to remember your plan was to drain the swamp. Someone in DC please present a plan to pull the plug. The “War”,ie,a battle within a war,will not end with surrender. Unlike Vietnam this “War” will follow us home. What is the plan for when it arrives? Just Asking
April 13th, 2007 at 7:12 pmAny country who will allow PC to prevent them from protecting there women ,and children, has a very short life span ,and will deserve to join the growing fock of Infidal Cattle. Not to wake anyone up, but if you are not a member of Islam ,you considered a Infidal,..eather to become Catte,…convert to Islam,..or be killed..many will choose Cattle,.. others may convert,.. but the brave will stand and fight… A coward will die a thousand deaths,.. a brave man only once…Which option will you choose?, Number one is not a wise option!…Now it the time for personal choice,..while you still have a choice.
April 13th, 2007 at 7:41 pmI have this pressing need to go smash something right now.
I really don’t know what it’s going to take for them to open their eyes, but they fucking better do it soon.
April 13th, 2007 at 7:44 pmOh, and check this out:
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1734869.ece
Love this little blurb:
Fear, intimidation, beatings, rape…something has *got* to give.
April 13th, 2007 at 8:16 pmOops.
Forgot to add this after, “Love this little blurb:”
“Kadra was attacked and beaten senseless by seven or eight persons of Somali origin, newspaper VG reports.”
>You don’t say? Gee, I wonder what fucked-up version of faith that they belonged to?
“”I was terrified. While I lay on the pavement they kicked me and screamed that I had trampled on the Koran. Several shouted Allah-o-akbar (God is great) and also recited from the Koran,” Kadra told VG.”
>I guess that’s our answer.
April 13th, 2007 at 8:19 pmI have a Taurus .357 Magnum. It only carries 5 rounds, but it has pretty good stopping power and its highly concealable. Plus very reliable, which is my main reason for choosing it.
Gone through over 30 clips at the range and never a jam.
For hunting I use exclusively a bow. And for novelty I have an old AR-15.
April 13th, 2007 at 8:22 pmI’m over in the sandbox now. I miss my Kimber stainless with real ivory grips, and my Benelli, and my Remington 7mm mag, and all my other “keepers of the Constitution”.
April 13th, 2007 at 8:46 pmMOLON LABE!
Greg. I carry a full-sized 1911, Colt 1991a1 to be exact. put an aftermarket (Wilson) sear and trigger in it and use wilson mags.Its a little bulky but 9 months out of the year it’s not a problem since I’m usually wearing a fairly heavy coat. Still like the Speer 200 gr. hollowpoint, the good old “Flying Ashtray” and have cooked up a round the pistol really likes. I know I’m opening up some legal headaches using handloads should I ever have to employ my weapon in self defense but what the hell. I’ve been thinking of trying one of Springfield’s 1911’s as have heard alot of good things about them but that will probably have to wait as I have a 13 year old daughter that’s ready to move on to something louder than the .22 so will gear my next purchase toward her. Thinking of maybe a Glock 19 or 26.
April 13th, 2007 at 9:01 pmDam Ops, sure cannot argue with your choice. Taurus makes a damn fine revolver imo. Have read some stats on one-shot-stops and the .357 with a 125 gr. SJHP does VERY well. This loading seems to have a real advantage over heavier bullets in the .357.
On a related topic, a good friend took a small arms and ammunition class in college taught by a retired Ok. State Patrolman. The officer said his most effective weapon was the Rem 870 he carried in his cruiser. This gentleman went on to explain that he’d never had to shoot anyone with it but once had a “real bad ass” kiss the pavement and piss his pants, literally, when he racked the slide to chamber a round. He said the sound of a pump shotgun being charged just fucking FROZE guys!
April 13th, 2007 at 9:07 pmDrillanwr - right on brotha!
April 13th, 2007 at 9:23 pmBabs and Alexa you are absolutely right. men and women are incomplete without one another.
April 13th, 2007 at 10:16 pmMuhammed is the ANTICHRIST.
April 13th, 2007 at 10:17 pmMuslim = ANTICHRISTIAN, if you need proof compare the quran with the New Testament. everything muhammed teaches is the opposite of Christ, therefore antichrist.
April 13th, 2007 at 10:20 pmI read these posts with interest before going to bed and felt that everything I felt had already been said. However, there was one point bothering me enough to make me get up and return to the computer (at 2:45am) to put in my 2 cents. We all know that part of the problem in Europe is the emasculation of the men. Our country is much further down that path than most people realize. I believe it really started in the 60’s and the Women’s Lib movement was the accelerant. There are so many obvious signs that point to the emasculation of the American man. I will concentrate on one that is directly affecting me and my family–and that is the lack of men who are willing to fight for our country. I have no doubts that there will come a day that American women will become prey for Muslim rapists on the same scale we see in Europe. I do not expect most of our men to protect us then. Most men are not protecting their women, children, or country now—why should anyone believe that they will suddenly step up to the plate then? Now is the time to defend our land and its people before we as a nation are completely infiltrated by the Muslim religion. We should be proactive instead of merely bloviating about what we will do if anyone tries to rape our women.(To be clear I am not targeting anyone on this site—I am assuming that this is a common male reaction nation wide). Noone really talks about how thin our troops are stretched. How the same men are rotated again and again for increasingly longer deployments. It is not uncommon for husbands and fathers to have spent more time away from their families in the last 5 years than with them. Noone talks about the stress these men are under–not just from combat related issues but largely from issues pertaining to long term separation from their “family units” ( sounds a little Coneheadish)—but really too long away from the people they love. They are not being loved and nurtured–which no matter the age or gender we all need. Packages, e-mails and perfume scented letters just don’t cut it……
Anyway after a while Sarah gets jealous of the slave and her son Ishmael and requests Abraham to send them away—he does and sends them out to the desert. By doing this he deprives Ishmael from his rightful birth right. Ishmael and his mother do survive with the help of God–and Ishmael goes on to be the father of Islam. While Issac’s line is the Jewish people–who then birthed Christianity upon Jesus Christs’s arrival. Long story long—-the strife that we see today began long long ago and we are yet to see it come to a head. If anyone is interested in how the Old Testament says this will play out—uhmmm… read your Bible or read the books by Joel Rosenberg. He has a fictional series based on biblical prophecies–which has proven to be entirely correct thus far. He also has some non-fiction books that break things down—he is amazingly on target. For instance his first book starts with a 9/11 scenario—before the real 9/11. All of his books are well as I said—amazingly accurate. OK now I am really tired–I’m going to bed now… 
April 13th, 2007 at 11:44 pmAnd noone talks about the strain the military family is under. There is a drastic increase in suicides among military wives and children—which correlates to multiple deployments. Our families are being torn apart. Granted our men are soldiers and marines and this is what they do. However, the defense of our country is falling on the shoulders of fewer and fewer men–and the burden is taking its toll. I received word a few days ago via the news (way to go Dept of Defense–and I am the one who told my husband) that the men (including my husband) that are currently deployed will be extended 3 more months–and I know that is to just ready us for the truth which is the extensions will be for an additional 6 months. People say it’s only a few more months– that doesn’t comfort a soldier who hasn’t seen his kids or held his wife for over a year. That does nothing to soothe a son who needs his Daddy–That logic doesn’t hold me at night–it doesn’t ease the longing for my husband and best friend. What I do understand, though, is that my husband—my sons (we have 5 little boys), and I have to bear a burden that is more than should be required. It is a burden that is crushing the men who do still have what it takes to defend “theirs”. It is a burden that they bear to protect the nation–the women and children ( and sadly the other men who are unwilling to shoulder their share of the burden)that they love. My husband was against the draft at one time–he didn’t want to serve with anyone who didn’t want to be there. He has changed his mind now–we need the draft. Maybe that would turn our country around. Maybe one has to fight for something to appreciate it. Granted, the idea of the draft scares me personally–I hate the idea of sending my sons off to fight. The reality is , though, someone has to do it. To paraphrase my husband–Our country will always have a military. It is just a matter of which or whose military it will be.
OK I am very tired so forgive my rambling and typos—
I also wanted to bring up a point I think is interesting and convinces me that this Jihad is only beginning. The Old Testament talks of Abraham having 2 sons–Issac who was born of Abraham’s wife Sarah and Ishmael who was born of Sarah’s slave (Sarah’s gift to her husband)–Ok whatever….
Dear DRILLANWR,
Well, I´m in another timezone. In more than one way haha.
When I post a comment, that´s shortly before I go to bed. You guys are still busy here while I do my `beautysleep`. Your reactions are read by me in the morning. That´s when you folks are still sleeping. So, me not reacting straight away is not that I´m not interested or it doesn´t bother me.
Back on topic.
Thank you so much. And don´t say sorry for your reaction being way to long. Because,
You exactly painted the picture for what it is. The whole picture!!!
Let me rephrase this.
Thank you for putting it in writing, I totally agree with you. Not because I like your words, it´s just the plain truth.
Being Dutch, so English is not my native language, it´s difficult to give a comment sometimes. You just said exactly how I think and feel about it, but can not express accuratly.
So, you didn´t reproache me. And I´m gratefull that some weeks ago I found Pat´s site.
It´s not to late for us?
At the last elections a carefull shift was made. But not enough. Yet.
It´s not about giving the government power, `We` are confrontated with a way of living that is forced upon us. Thinking otherwise is already dangerous, saying it is asking for assasination. Remember Theo van Gogh.
And no, it´s not outrageous to carefully remember the Underground Resistance, active back in WWII during an occupation also, and thinking about starting it again.
*whispermode on. There´s whispers about it that it might be the last recource to change things back to way it was.whispermode off*
Last news from Eurabia.
April 14th, 2007 at 1:28 amYesterday a monument for victims of WWII was found destroyed severly. A bronze stature, lady with a dove in her hand. The arm that was holding the dove was beaten of. No clues about who did it.
Well, that´s what the MSM is telling us. I´ve got a pretty good clue. The 4th of may is comming closer you see. And a dove is such a Christian symbole.
Nevertheless, in some 2 weeks somewhere `We` will be told Neo nazis were to blame. More coverups…….
here i sit in tasmania and watch the posts and weep for the state that the world is in. I see rumsfeld47 skiting about his humanity in saving a chick from the beach and the denigration of the blogs to a discussion of weaponery which in itself is useful but not here. We are discussing the rape and denigration of euro women at the hands of muslim immigrants. Heathers post is great and shows the hour. Turning to Aussie, we have the same problem here in the suburbs of Sydney( syney thinks its the center of the universe and we from other states in aussie spit on them)where muslim gangs thought they could get away with raping the non muslim females, but when caught and convicted got a 55 year sentence then the left got all hot and bothered and the shakealeg hilali, the hilarious muslim muffin of aussie, he who sez that he is a better aussie than John Howard out Prime Minister, even though he cant speak a word of english after 25 years residence, and likened the raped women to raw meat left out in a park, then sez all muslims should get into the trenches with Iran. well…
sheesh, sorry if that sentence is not grammatical!!!
We here in Aussie were disarmed several years ago following a massacre at Port Arthur by a deranged shooter.The Govt made everyone who had a gun feel they were responsible, and declared an amnesty to hand in the weapons. HAHA. They got 630,000 weapons in total, which begs the question of where are the 650,000 chinese automatic rifles that were imported and sent to the gun shops of Australia to sell so that China could pay for their food that we exported to them?I saw air rifles and old english side by side shotguns being handed in along with a few military weapons( like my ar15), but the long and short of it was that the criminals handed in nothing, the law abiding citizens handed in everything.We do not have a second amendment, or any other amendment in out non existent constitution, so any person who now has a gun licence can be decended apon my the police and checked to see that the guns are in a certified safe and the ammo is in a seperate safe as well.WE now have a society that is gun shy, yet shootings by criminals are as high as ever, and where are these shooting, well, in Sydney, the home of the Lebonese gangster rapists,car theives and drug runners.These people regularly have feuds over gang turf shooting out with machine guns and hand guns like the wild west.G*d help us, the police do nothing to stop it, while the radical muslims are turning young somali refugees into jihad warriers and sending them to somailia where they are killed, Lebonese to the ME to be killed. It wont stop until the govt here takes a stand and sends the radicals off shore.
April 14th, 2007 at 2:48 amOT Ive got one of your Jihadi Killer t shirts Pat, and I am the envy of all by motorcycle mates.Expect some more aussie dollars coming your way!!!
The subject of concealed carry weapons could go on forever, to each his own, hand cannons are fine, as a retired cop who was shot in the face with a 22 short ball bullet. I can tell you now I am very happy he did not have anything larger, saying this, I carry a North American Arms, 22 cal min revolver, 5 shot, with Stinger hollow points, as most self defence will be within 10 feet in front of you, I can “Conceal” this weapon with ease, put five rounds in a target that close to me ASAP, If you are still standing I will hand it to you to reload, I Sir will be long gone. I have seen off duty cops packing what looked like a lunch box under there arm ,and quite visible to the public and the perp. Its a CONCEALED WEAPON, and the only person who sees it should be the problem child of God standing in front of you..Regardless of your weapon of choice remember, Its better to have it when you need it, then to need it and not have it.Better to be judged by 12, then carried by 6.
April 14th, 2007 at 4:31 amI would like to personally assure all that may doubt or fear the American men are becoming emasculated.—- BULLSHIT!—-, we here in IN. have a noticeable muslim community. We also host the National North American HQ islamic center, while thus far they have been quiet, “good” neighbors, their actions are being watched. We have at various schools a growing number of Arab students, (haven’t they all been?) Throughout our American history how many planes have we hijacked? Bottom line is, as far as women, children, and the pursuit of happiness goes, with a .22,.45,12 guage, and a head full of experience, THIS WILL DEFEND!!!!!! P.S. Dont fuck with us, we wont fuck with you!!! Why is that so damned hard to understad?!!!!
April 14th, 2007 at 5:47 amterry, fuck off. And that goes for anyone else who feels like pissing in my coffee.
April 14th, 2007 at 5:58 amOh yeah, to all the countries that have been disarmed, sorry about your luck guys, sucks to be you. We(America) are now and have been from the start, a fighting nation. This is not to say we are better than anyone else! That’s about as PC as I get, when I’m room temp. you may have my weapons!
April 14th, 2007 at 6:04 amrummsfeld47-
interlochen? what happened?
what about your art?
http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/mediaplayer.asp?ean=030206658323&z=y&track=23&disc=1
(from one of my favorite films, from tony scott)
April 14th, 2007 at 6:42 amHeather and Jeanet,
I understand your concerns, and confess to sharing some of them. I know I keep referring back to WWII, but it was obviously a pivotal time in the last century, on many levels. (This is why this war we are in right now MUST NOT be this Century’s WWI … We must not quit, only to have to return and fight again at even greater sacrifice and loss.) Anyhow, nothing impresses me more than the fortitude and strength the men, women, and families had during those tough times in WWII. In today’s microwave culture, as I call it, people have allowed impatience to drive their lives, and unfortunately their thinking. And we allow the MSM to be our crutch, telling us what and how and even when to think … you know, so we don’t have to bother to. To me that’s almost as dangerous as giving the government too much power (At least you can look away from the media and find your facts and information in other venues.) We, as individuals, need to take back our own minds, and souls, before we can take back the world. Hopefully that is already happening. We can not trust the schools to “raise” our kids. They are trying to … but that’s not their purpose. We have to raise strong kids, male and female. And we have to stay strong.
I am blessed to be having such a serious conversation with two highly intelligent woman from different corners of the world.
Heather,
you Aussies have always stood side by side with us Yanks. We’re like bastard brothers … both countries having been forged by throw-aways and refugees of other countries. From what I’ve been reading about your Prime Minister he’s got his head screwed on straight over what we are facing. Your example of the government disarming its population is something everyone should heed. People here in the States believe that if a law is passed all we need to do is vote on it again if we end up not liking it … Yeah, not so easy. Guns. One of the biggest responsibility sources we have in the world. You can take all the guns away from the law abiding people, but the bad guys will always have them. Look in the dictionary because I think that can qualify as a definition of insanity. Elections matter. We here in the States are finding that out now as our last election the people with backbone failed to stay strong and are now watching a Congresswoman circumvent our Constitution and our sitting President and his authority by prancing around with leaders of Terrorist nations … in a friggin’ head scarf! Speaker Pelosi has refused to meet with her own President to hammer out a strong plan to support and fund our brave and selfless troops in this war, but the unmitigated bitch will meet with terrorist supporting leaders … and she’s planning on meeting with the president of Iran (He whose name I refuse to speak.). On the homefront, her party colleagues are mucking up the government with mindless and senseless “investigations” into things that are NOT their business … Separation of Powers mean NOTHING to these Bolsheviks. Our President and his party has not helped the situation by insisting on not giving the news media in this country anything that looks even remotely “mean spirited” in the manner of fighting back.
Jeanet,
Over the years I have heard about WWII memorials being vandalized or destroyed throughout Europe. From what I’ve seen it is mostly done by the anarchists who can’t seem to find a purpose in this world higher than cockroaches. Those who do such things believe it is a way of erasing the sacrifice and meaning to what was accomplished in that war. History can’t be destroyed in that way. If it could you’d wake up in the morning to the Nazi flag flying over your government buildings. The anarchists seem to be the tools or boobs for the Islamo Fascists in this world. I have found it is the Dutch people, more than any other European country’s people, who have carved into their hearts, souls, and minds what WWII meant, and their eternal gratitude to us Yanks for our part in it. Not just the generation who lived through it, but those generations who have followed. What a great homage your people have given to our WWII, and to our nation, in passing that on. Thank you.
Have you seen the insanity erupting like a slow but deadly volcano in your part of the world? NOT teaching the Holocaust in school?! Even changing “The Three Little Pigs” to “The Three Little Puppies”?! (Someone needs to inform that brilliant teacher that dogs are just as lowly to Islamists as pigs are …) Permitting Muslim garb and symbols while prohibiting others … as in Christian?! Well, I imagine you HAVE seen things like this where you are … Nothing speaks louder than a murdered grandson of a world famous artist bleeding to death in the streets with a threatening note attached to his chest with the knife that his murderer employed to slaughter him.
Cripes! I’m starting to feel as if I’m sounding like the mother of John Conner (See: the movie “Terminator” 1, 2, & 3)
Anyhow, we can’t give into the feelings of fear and hopelessness. It’s part of their arsenal. Continue to inform yourself, don’t trust the news media to do it for you. They have a agenda. Without sounding like a paranoid wacko, I believe there are two enemies aiming for us all … the Islamo Fascists and the NeoCommunists. You see, the NeoCommies believe the Islamos will divide up the world with them when the dust settles, as Europe was divided after WWII with the USSR. However, the idiot NeoCommies can’t even see this is a whole different beast that has “plans” for their heads too …
But hey, death is not the worst thing that can happen to you. It’s how you leave this world that counts.
Matt,
“Drillanwr - right on brotha!”
I can comfortably call you “sweetie” and not have you feel the need to separate my nose from my face … sweetie. “Sista” sounds good.
April 14th, 2007 at 6:44 amWhat do you mean, “what happened?” Johann Sebastian Bach doesn’t sign my checks!
April 14th, 2007 at 6:45 amHistory has a sense of irony. Hitler and European partners rounded up and murdered the Jews with a vengence in the 30s-40s. They were an ethnic group that had peacefully assimilated and even supported their European countries of residence.
Now, the Europeans won’t lay a finger on this demonic ethnic group that doesn’t assimilate or support their host cultures; rather, they are committing abyssmal, horrifying crimes against the most sacrosanct values of our culture. Where is the tipping point?
Further ironic to me is that I my pity is minimal for the Europeans. They are addicted to their humanistic philosophies that refuse acknowledge that anything is worth fighting for. It is the same as trying to telling a heroine addict, “Man, you are killing yourself…” They will never believe until it is too late.
Don’t let it happen in the USA.
By the way, I see the latest BS flowing into our theaters is some movie “Pathfinder”. Haven’t seen it, but all I imagine is that the vikings are portrayed as supernatural evil that must be exterminated. Although you can boil it down to “good” v. “evil”, it seems like a sketchy re-write of history. In this day and age the Swedes could use some bolstering rather shaming.
April 14th, 2007 at 7:09 amdrillanwr,
April 14th, 2007 at 8:14 amI am confused–do you think I am an Aussie? I can assure you I am Indiana born and raised. But since my husband and family belong to the US Army I have lived in just about every region of the USA–it seemed that your note inferred I was an Aussie (not that that is an insult per se). However, I wanted to set the record straight–maybe you should reread my post–.
On a different vein–I too was offended by Pelosi in a head scarf. I called her office to voice my opinion–actually spoke to an aide….who had obviously watched too many Saturday Night Live reruns. Her response to me was something like this: “Uh-huh. Uh-huh. She wanted to be culturally sensitive. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Buh-bye.”
rummy47 -
Your just more evidence that the miitary is NOT filled with the disadvantaged and ignorant, as has been told to us in the MSM. That is the meaning of that post.
Drive On,
April 14th, 2007 at 9:06 amSteve in NC
Heather - First, I want to thank you and your family for their service to our great country.
You said, “Noone really talks about how thin our troops are stretched.”
I don’t agree. The MSM spews this every chance they can get. That alone makes me inclined to not believe it. What we do NOT hear from the MSM is, if indeed this is true, that Clinton down-sized the military when he was in office because it was no longer necessary. Right as he left office, the military became very necessary. Clinton also pulled all of the retiree benefits, such as medical care for life which I find odd since they are for socialized medicine. Well, socialized medicine for people who prefer to sit on a couch and watch Jerry Springer but no need for our military retirees to have it!
My father had already retired when we watched this happen. We lived near Barksdale Air Force Base in Bossier City, LA. This was a very full base and it very quickly became a ghost town. The hospital had just completed a major renovation and as soon as it was done they locked the doors. When anyone on base had to visit a doctor, including an emergency, they had to go off base several miles away. There were several houses sitting empty. I know people who were forced into retirement.
They pulled all of the B-52s off the Christmas tree and no one manned the ready buildings anymore. This was to make us look less threatening, which I feel means weak. I don’t think the B-52s are even kept loaded anymore. Clinton Inc. hates the military.
I think it also depends on who you listen to whether the draft is necessary. Rangel would surely love to see it happen, even though he opposed his own bill. I see reports, in other places than the MSM, stating recruit numbers are met or exceeded. I read stories, again not from the MSM, about young people signing up like Rummy here. The MSM constantly reports everything bad as long as Bush is in office. If a Democrat gets in, God help us, everything they report will become instantaneously better.
April 14th, 2007 at 10:01 amDocDick - “We(America) are now and have been from the start, a fighting nation. This is not to say we are better than anyone else!”
We aren’t better than anyone else? Name one country on this plane that is better than The United States of America!
April 14th, 2007 at 10:02 amsorry - plane = planet.
April 14th, 2007 at 10:02 amHeather,
A thousand pardons for the mistake. I confused your post with terry smyth’s (who is in Tasmania, I believe).
At your direction, I have reread your post. While some of the males misunderstood your views about “emasculation” in society, I don’t believe you were questioning men’s strength or abilities (manliness). I agree. The woman’s movement, while you and I have had benefits from it, have also come to realize it changed social “acceptance” of men.
Allow my analogy: Men, for the last few decades, have acted/felt the way societies around the world are doing in regards to “Muslims” … Men, and I know these guys might try to rip me a new one if I’m not clear in what I’m trying to say, have treaded the proverbial eggshells so as 1) not to offend women, 2) to avoid being sued for offending women, 3) and have been confused as to exactly what is or isn’t permitted for them to do/feel/say in the feminist world (and that’s where we are putting ourselves with the whole “Muslim culture and sensitivities” comes first crap … no matter what).
Our men today aren’t emasculated, but society is. And I don’t question any one who does not choose to enter the military. I believe in the all volunteer military we have today. Who wants to have some kid covering their back who is crapping his pants scared and wishing he’d run off to Canada? Yes, they’re stretched, but they’d have more “flexibility” to get the job done, and faster, if the politicians and eager media would stay the heck out and let them fight. The time for “foreign policy” and “diplomacy” is after our troops’ guns have cooled. There would also be no need for it to have gone on this long if 1) Congress had stayed out of it, 2) if the UN (who are useless turds) had shown they at least knew what a set of balls looked like and publicly said they supported us, 3) ditto for those European countries who look down their noses at us, especially in this war, but will be the first looking back at their own headless corpses when it really hits the fan and 4) if Iran would stay out.
I personally know Marines who haven’t stopped and rested since we began this. One did so only because he nearly lost both feet when an IED took out their Humvee during his second tour in Iraq. He was home long enough to recover, plant a baby, watch her be born, and then he requested to be sent back for a third tour (where his is right now … back in Iraq) … I pray everyday the third time’s not the charm for him there, and that he comes home safe and sound to help raise his little princess.
I don’t think it’s like they say. I don’t believe people are so much against the war as they are confused by what they do/don’t know about it. Not only is this a different war in the way we have to fight this different enemy, but in the way the media has decided to “run it” (spin it) for the people at home, and the way the White House has not only mismanaged being clear with the public about the progresses and accomplishments, but succumbing to their own fear about having the media and the antiwar goones tagging any positive information as “propaganda” … which is exactly what the Fascist Left and the MSM has been spewing.
It’s beyond tough. And I know the loss of time with families can never be regained. I have three stunningly beautiful and intelligent daughters. My eldest is an ICU nurse at a local hospital, and she and her husband have a baby boy. My next oldest daughter is in pre med in college and has taken the honors program there by storm. (She has accomplished perfect scores on exams that haven’t had perfect scores on them in decades.) Both these “model-worthy” young women grew up playing with Barbies, playing on boys’ hockey and sports teams, and cracking math and science books. They know who they are, and take NO shit from anyone.
My third daughter just turned 7. I had her when I was Pat’s age (At 41 Pat grabs a camera and a gun and goes off to war … I return to the delivery room YOY! To trade places …) Anyhow, I thought I was done, but G-d had other plans. She is my treasure. She has Down Syndrome. In 7 years she has taught me more about myself and life and the world than all my previous 41 years of growth before her arrival.
Should these bastards progress and win throughout the world and into our country they would TRY to subjugate my older daughters, brutalize them … and immediately terminate my younger daughter in the initial siege (just as Hitler had done).
Military families are spread thin and stressed by this war, yes, I know. But they can never measure my gratitude to them for going through this so that future families can stay together … and so that my grandson doesn’t have to grow up and fight the same bastards.
There are those who insist we, as a nation, aren’t sacrificing enough in this war. No matter what we “sacrifice” it could never be enough, or be compared to what our troops and their families continue to sacrifice. Today we have more than folks had during WWII. And if we did “sacrifice” material things we’d still have more. But, perhaps, the thing we CAN sacrifice for the war effort this time around is patience, support, and understanding … and more prayer. All we can do is keep the faith and stay strong and resolute for them. And if you asked them, I think it’s all they really would ask us to sacrifice … and some of us are failing them miserably.
By the way, I’m in Ohio.
April 14th, 2007 at 10:18 amI do tend to be wordy. I’ve written a couple LONG fiction novels (rejected, but never published
).
Anyhow, what I said in my last couple posts … this might be a little easier on the eyes, with the same message:
Props to powerlineblog.com for pointing it out (love yunz guys too!)
The “nephew” frame is one of my favorites. Look closely:
REMEMBER ME
by Lizzie Palmer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ervaMPt4Ha0
April 14th, 2007 at 1:56 pmTo the men on this board, I would like to appologize. Yes, I did get really annoyed about the chick jokes, probably too annoyed. I am fully involved in this war. My first born son is serving and, I am in the Navy parents club. I hear every day about this or that son or daughter being deployed once again. Most of them come home, some of them do not.
April 14th, 2007 at 1:58 pmWe parents are left here with the wives, husbands and grandchildren to take up that huge sucking sound when someone deploys. We do our absolute best to support each other and tend to the little ones left behind.
Yeah, it really touched a nerve to think that I might not be saved because I am not attractive. I overreacted. I am sorry.
Just last night I got a call from a father that his son is going on his second deployment. He will be doing a “pants on fire” mission. The littoral Navy, interdicting IED’s, foreign fighters and all kinds of smuggling coming through on the waterways. His mother is beside herself… I told the father to make sure to tell his son that if he sees the Iranians comming he should blow them the fuck out of the water and let Condelesa Rice figure it out after the fact.
The funny thing about this war is that almost all the men and women I know currently serving could be wildly successful in the civilian world yet, they choose to serve. This young man that is about to jump into a rubber boat to defend the country of Iraq has a masters degree from John’s Hopkins… It boggles the mind.
“It boggles the mind.”
Babs,
No. It don’t. That’s what dickheads like John Kerry and Charlie Rangle and the like just don’t get. The members of our military are the very best our country has to offer. They go, and go again. G-d bless and protect them.
I can only imagine your hurt and void with your son gone. Thanks for your service. And sound off like a pissed off female or drunkin’ sailor as you please.
Also, LOVE your thinking on the Iranians coming across the water … Maybe we need more “Generals” like you and me calling the shots, pun intended, in this war …
April 14th, 2007 at 2:28 pmJeanet,
Over the years I have heard about WWII memorials being vandalized or destroyed throughout Europe. From what I’ve seen it is mostly done by the anarchists who can’t seem to find a purpose in this world higher than cockroaches. Those who do such things believe it is a way of erasing the sacrifice and meaning to what was accomplished in that war. History can’t be destroyed in that way. If it could you’d wake up in the morning to the Nazi flag flying over your government buildings. The anarchists seem to be the tools or boobs for the Islamo Fascists in this world. I have found it is the Dutch people, more than any other European country’s people, who have carved into their hearts, souls, and minds what WWII meant, and their eternal gratitude to us Yanks for our part in it. Not just the generation who lived through it, but those generations who have followed. What a great homage your people have given to our WWII, and to our nation, in passing that on. Thank you.
Have you seen the insanity erupting like a slow but deadly volcano in your part of the world? NOT teaching the Holocaust in school?! Even changing “The Three Little Pigs” to “The Three Little Puppies”?! (Someone needs to inform that brilliant teacher that dogs are just as lowly to Islamists as pigs are …) Permitting Muslim garb and symbols while prohibiting others … as in Christian?! Well, I imagine you HAVE seen things like this where you are … Nothing speaks louder than a murdered grandson of a world famous artist bleeding to death in the streets with a threatening note attached to his chest with the knife that his murderer employed to slaughter him.
Cripes! I’m starting to feel as if I’m sounding like the mother of John Conner (See: the movie “Terminator” 1, 2, & 3)
Anyhow, we can’t give into the feelings of fear and hopelessness. It’s part of their arsenal. Continue to inform yourself, don’t trust the news media to do it for you. They have a agenda. Without sounding like a paranoid wacko, I believe there are two enemies aiming for us all … the Islamo Fascists and the NeoCommunists. You see, the NeoCommies believe the Islamos will divide up the world with them when the dust settles, as Europe was divided after WWII with the USSR. However, the idiot NeoCommies can’t even see this is a whole different beast that has “plans” for their heads too …
But hey, death is not the worst thing that can happen to you. It’s how you leave this world that counts.
Matt,
“Drillanwr - right on brotha!”
I can comfortably call you “sweetie” and not have you feel the need to separate my nose from my face … sweetie. “Sista” sounds good.
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@Drillanwr.
No, history can not be destroyed. But, only when there are people around who teach history-lessons without abusing them. (Refering to the idiots over here who brainwash “Our” feelings about extremist Quran-followers compairing this with the history-lesson about the hate by the Nazis towards the Jewish people.)
Let me explain you my situation.
I wouldn’t be around if the Allied troups had not landed on the French beaches.
My mum survived TBC a year after the ending of WWII by a (then) newly achieved operating technique, introduced by American doctors.
My dad would have died a year after the ending of WWII by sudden Diabetes. Allied troops allowed the arrival of new sorts of medication. He will turn 77 coming tuesday, surviving 67 years of being a Diabetic.
These two people met and married in 1958. I knocked on the door in 1963.
March 2003.
While every self-respecting Dutchy is (just another example of the Dutch disease - shortsited visions) reacting in anger about “the stupid John Waynes who enter Iraque”, my dad is dying in the hospital from a double phneumonia. That was, until some experimental American drugs was given to him, as a last resort. He survived thanks to the “stupid John Waynes”. Capice?!!!
MSM.
I’ve given up upon them the day the first footage was broadcasted from Srebrenica in July 1995 on Dutch tv.
An inner voice told me in the weeks afterwards that something was wrong. Terribe wrong. That there could only be a big difference between what was told and shown and what exactly happened during the 11th, 12th and 13th of July that year.
Well, I found out. I found “the real truth”. How?
April 2001.
Around 3 o’clock in the morning I counted my few blessings at the moment I seriously thought about ending my life.
I made a pledge. I made a pledge to my mirror-image that with all the pain, hardship, loss and damage that was done to me, I had to do something usefull. That, if I could only save one person in the same situation I was in from ending his/her life, all my trouble had not been in vain. That I could turn around all the negative things in my life into something possitive, helping people who were in the same situation I was. (No help, twisted laws, purpetrators disappearing - not being punnished either - no one who wants to really listen to you story while your life has ended and in the mean time is being turned into a awfull nightmare where only you are guilty. Everything you’ve build up with your bear hands, with blood, sweat an tears, is taken away from you and you’ve ended up broken and broke with a gigantic feeling of guild of something you are not guilty off.
The third week of january 2002 I started as a volunteer at a Museum/Tradition-room placed at the barrack-grounds from The Air Mobile Brigade in the Netherlands. (13th Inf. Bat. Regiment Stoottroepen Prins Bernhard)
- And how I came to do this kind of work, I mean, how “first contact was made between a civilian and a soldier? Well, that’s just another crazy story.-
Yes, the same soldiers that had to witness the ordeal in Srebrenica in july 1995.
(And so I’m officialy giving up my “secret identity”. My real name is, indeed, Jeanet.)
I’ve learned, I’ve learned a lot. Im still educating myself every day.
Rule number one; Don’t trust the MSM. (The truth about Srebrenica? I could write 5 books about that issue, only compilling the “real” facts. And another 3 about the stories from the soldiers “who were there, who witnessed it, drunk a few beers afterwards celebrating the fact they made it out alive, only then were informed what happened after the were forced to leave and, untill this very day, are being shit on”.
Oh yeah, pretty stories, filled with lies, are so much more interesting than the truth.
August 2002.
Only months after I started working as a volunteer, I welcomed an old man in his eighties. He had been a Stoottroeper. First active in the Underground, then attached to an American platoon. And then, well, then these soldiers went to Indonesia with the ending as known to only a few Dutchmen these days. (History-lessons in Holland? What a joke!.)
Eventually these young soldiers came home. After years in the Underground, then shipped to Indonesia for 3 months which ended up in 3 years. At their home-comming, in 1948, no soul would wait for them in the harbour. Dutch people looked away from them, they couldn’t get a propper job, their wives were left without payment while their husbands were away. Sometimes for weeks.
Every time they wanted to tell their story they were told to shut op. Dutch people were just ashamed of these guys, reminding them over and over again that Indonesia was lost. And, already then, stories started to circulate. Dirty stories, but NOT the rest of the stories, the “other truth”.
And then, almost 60 years later, another group of Dutch soldiers have to face the result of half the truth an mostly the ugly lies.
History seems to repeat itselves without leasons learned.
The old man?
He walked trough the museum, he cried, he was shivering. I made him drink 2 cups of awfull strong coffee, handed him some tissues and…..I let him talk.
He talked for 2 hours straigt. So, I fed him the only thing he wanted. Water, glasses of cold water, for it was such a hot august afternoon.
Normally we would close up at 16.00 hour. So I told my boss he could go home, that I would stay and close up. The old man stayed untill I had arranged for transportation back to the strain-station. (He had walked all the way to the barracks in the hot sun. And now he just sat there, having a private chauffeur in formall dress, being driven to the train-station in an MB-military jeep) I gave him the opportunity to call his wife, that he would be home later but that everything was OK. When we said our goodbyes he said the most wonderfull words I had heared for a long time:
“Thank you for letting me talk. I had to shut up for 60 years. It’s finally off my chest and now I can die eacefully”.
I’m the one that doesn’t want to talk to journalist when the press is allowed to come to the barracks. Who refuses to let pictures taken of me. This is not about me! It’s about the Regiment Stoottroepen. With the knowledge about the MSM, you can be sure more lies will be printed. And this with my picture in the same article? Well, over my dead body.
You wrote in your comment:
“But hey, death is not the worst thing that can happen to you. It’s how you leave this world that counts.”
When I leave this world, I’ll know that I left foot-prints in others lives. Good foot-prints.
This is my fight, a fight against lies, a fight for a country that will not be overtaken by a relegion that forces “Us” to change into something we aren’t.
It’s my fight to bring things into the open wich are easily shoved aside, being part of the “lets-keep-it-quite”-sort of thing. (Sticking your head in the sand doesn’t make it go away. One day you pull your head out of the sand, seeing what awfull and terrible things have happened. And then it’s far to late to reverse it.)
It’s my continuous fight against the leftish storm that rages over The Netherlands, making policemen unable to do something, turning our society into something “We” don’t want, feeling strangers in our native country, being forced into acception of a life-style which is based on nothing of our own culture, religion and way-of-life and standing up against the total soldier-bashing which seems to be so much in fashion these days over here.
When my end is near, when I leave, I want to look back and be in peace with how I lived my life.
But 2 years ago I made another pledge;”When I leave this world, it will be accompannied with a big BANG”.
So, lets just wait and see what this pledge will bring. No doubt it will be something crazy. (Or, maybe by that time it will not be so “crazy” anymore but a solution to a world-wide problem that can only be solved by these kinds of BANG’s??!!)
April 14th, 2007 at 2:59 pmMore news from Eurabia; Well,later. Too late now and need some eye-shut.
Am in a terrible “caught in the middle” already as it is.
Meaning;
-Telling about Eurabia in order to surplus and enlight Pat’s articles about the European Muslim Problem with examples and out-of-daily-life experiences, so called live-witness-reports from what Pat is talking about
and
- Hoovering between NOT being in the military but also being not a 100% civilian anymore either.
But, I still wouldn’t have it the other way. Like I stated before, this is what I’ve choosen for. (Although I must admit that I got more then I baragained for.:!:)
April 14th, 2007 at 3:25 pmDear Jeaney,
April 14th, 2007 at 3:35 pmIt has been suggested before. You need to form a group of same thinking individuals and take back your country.
Easy to say, hard to do. Put one foot in front of the other and form a group. It will grow.
From what I read at the Brussels Journal, your country is in trouble. The only way to turn it back is to form a reasonable resistance…
Amen, Babs!
Jeanet, your story needs to get out … loud and clear. My country of “happy idiots” needs to hear it so that we wake up and NOT allow this to happen here. Already we are seeing small pockets of deforming our culture and laws to placate and accommodate the growingly out spoken Muslim population here. Minnesota is a prime example of it. People like Pat Dollard and American radio/TV talker Glenn Beck have taken the lead in trying to get the truth out. Glenn Beck even did an interview with the Muslim woman that had helped Theo Van Gough make the movie for which he was slaughtered. Her name escapes me, however.
Anyhow, Jeanet, you stay strong and grow stronger.
April 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pm“A completely seperate situation that doesn’t at all fit the European model of troublesome immigrints (first and second generation). The Bosniac and Albanian muslims were indigenous and had been living there since the middle ages. Being ethnic Slavs and Europeans themselves another matter altoger.”
April 14th, 2007 at 4:29 pmExactly my point! You are all hypocites.
What on earth are the Americans doing in a country where the muslim population has been for THOUSANDS of years, raping and pillaging the people there!
What about the American soldiers who raped a thirteen year old and then killed the whole family!
You just twist the argument to suit yourselves. Bet you don’t post this.
No, it’ll be posted … don’t know for ho long, though.
Here’s an idea to go along with your line of thinking:
Let’s gather up ALL the Muslims in the world who have immigrated to countries, including the USA, and fly them back to their own region of the world … They can walk back to their individual countries of origin from the Sahara.
I’m so damn sick of you people who spit out this lame argument, and are the first to DEMAND the United States send billions of OUR tax dollars to those countries as aid.
Rummy, have at `em …
April 14th, 2007 at 4:52 pmPay attention to the line: `Don’t listen to your Congressmen …’ Note who the original source was.
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/13/letting-the-troops-speak-for-themselves/
April 14th, 2007 at 5:01 pm“Oh yeah, and the fact that the Bosniacs were living peacefully until Milosivic pushed the Serbian government into a more assertive and aggressive stance and attacked the autonomous zones (Essentially, the Serbs started it) would be a trivial detail wouldn’t it?”
Substitute Iraqis for Bosnians, Bush for Milosevic and Americans for Serbs….
Hello?????????
April 14th, 2007 at 5:30 pmLook at me, I’m Sandy Starr
Lousy in bed, from Kafar,
Won’t go to bed ’til I get my meds
I can’t; I’m Sandy Starr!
Oh, Sandy–
1. Fuck you.
2. You’re an idiot.
3. We can’t be all hypocites, because hypocites isn’t a word. Try typing with your hands instead of your ass, it might work better that way.
4. What are we doing in that country? Kicking ass, and taking names, for one. For seconds, we’ve created a toilet for every terrorist in the world to piss and shit in, so they don’t attack us again in the United States. For thirds, we’re letting people run their own lives for the first time in over 5,000 years.
5. We have every right to stampede your women and rape your cattle.
6. Who the fuck says “pillaging”? God, it’s been a while.
“What about the American soldiers who raped a thirteen year old and then killed the whole family!” They’re in jail. What about the camel-fuckers who cut off clitori by the thousands in Africa? I could be wrong, but that job probably pays by the clit.
“You just twist the argument to suit yourselves.” Ha ha, no we don’t. We don’t fuck camels, we don’t beat our women; therefore, we are officially better than you.
7. Eat shit.
Respectfully,
Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense (retired)
April 14th, 2007 at 5:51 pm“Let’s gather up ALL the Muslims in the world ….”
No, let’s, instead, gather up all the mindsets in the world who want to blame the “other”. Who want to demonise and villify the “other”, rather than demonstrating the true bravery of dealing with their own demons and setting their own “house” in order, and change that point of view.
We are all in the desert until that happens.
April 14th, 2007 at 5:56 pmIt’s Sanndy Star not Sandy Starr, Rumsy and just because I don’t press a key doesn’t make you less of a HYPOcrite.
And by the way you ain’t retired ’cause you been FIRED!
Peace out!
April 14th, 2007 at 6:05 pmGo sell it to the Islamists.
If you make it back, then I’ll listen to your sales pitch.
April 14th, 2007 at 6:07 pmWestern/Christian culture is weak, docile and tolerant. It has no chance against dedicated violence of Islam. It will be taken over and destroyed. There will be no memory of its greatness and no one else on this planet will care.
The Scandinavians got what they asked for.
April 14th, 2007 at 6:19 pm“”Substitute Iraqis for Bosnians, Bush for Milosevic and Americans for Serbs….
Hello?????????”"
Hello what? Your compairing toilet seats to flagpoles.
Now little attention whore, I do my part in letting you starve.
April 14th, 2007 at 6:20 pmHuffy Post must be down tonight …
April 14th, 2007 at 6:32 pmThat dumbshit thinks I spelled his name wrong accidentally. Oh, Sandy!
And for the record, fuckstick, it’s spelled “hippocrite.” Duh.
“And by the way you ain’t retired ’cause you been FIRED! Peace out!” Peace out? Word, brotha, bout time y’all speakin’ the jive, knowhatI’msayn, G?
Piece out, you camel-raping shiteater who has the politics of a graduate student and the intellect of a 5th grader. Get off Pat’s blog.
April 14th, 2007 at 7:06 pm@drillan
I think you may be right. That or somebody on a nutroots site linked to here in a story.
April 14th, 2007 at 7:10 pmSanndy Star - “What on earth are the Americans doing in a country where the muslim population has been for THOUSANDS of years, raping and pillaging the people there!”
Despite the fact that your sentence is horrible, and that I can read through your bad wording, you would seem to think it is ok for the raping and pillaging to continue. Other than that, the armed forces of the United States of America are there to prevent those people from bringing their shit over here to our country.
“What about the American soldiers who raped a thirteen year old and then killed the whole family!”
I seriously doubt this really happened. Yes, I read and heard about it in the media ad nauseum like with Anna Nicole. I asked a guy who worked for me, who is a former Marine, and he said this was very unlikely. Even if it did really happen, the acts of one or a few do not encompass what everyone else believes or does.
“You just twist the argument to suit yourselves. Bet you don’t post this.”
Yea, the MSM and Democrats never, ever twist anything to fit their agenda. They are as pure as the wind-driven snow.
“No, let’s, instead, gather up all the mindsets in the world who want to blame the “other”. Who want to demonise and villify the “other”…”
Didn’t you just do the same of which you stated shouldn’t be done?
“And by the way you ain’t retired ’cause you [Rumsfeld] been FIRED!”
Actually, no; he resigned. There is a HUGE difference.
Tune into the MSM and drive on by. It’s much safer and you don’t have to actually use your gray matter.
April 14th, 2007 at 8:52 pmHere is my last piece of advice on this post; go back to your church… Even if you don’t believe in God you surely believe in the tenants of the Christian religion. After all, your country was founded on the Christian religion…
April 15th, 2007 at 5:09 amSwallow the God thing but, be a part of like thinking individuals, organize and take your country back…
If you are Jewish, go back to your temple. Jewish and Christian have built the western world. Find common ground from which you can move forward to take your country back.
If you don’t you will be slaves to the barbarians that offer nothing other than a return to the 700’s. Do you want your hand chopped off or your women stoned to death? This is what awaits…
these rapists need good old african street justice. In west africa if someone commits a crime, you need one person yelling “thief” or “rape” before other citizens attck the perp and bit his ass or kill him. One man in ghana, I remember was castrated.
D-E-P-O-R-T-E-D, N-O!! C-A-S-T-R-A-T-E-D, Y-E-S
:!:
and placed in generalpopulation for a little gang raping there for good measure.
In south africa, many rapists were gathered up, handcuffed buck naked and beaten by the women they raped. that was scary but understandable.
April 15th, 2007 at 5:46 am@drillanwr and Babs
I had healthproblems already for 13 years until 2 years ago. A major set-back.
My only “power” these days is to get the story out trough a keyboard and a pc. Plus the few hours a week I’m on the barracks. (That is, when my health allows me to go there.)
Not only MY story, other peoples storys as well.
Being divorced over 9 years, no children, with only my dad still alive from my small family, I refuse to become an egoist. This is not about me, this is about the world I’ll leave when I die. And, I’m responsable for that world as well.
The times of “borrowing” a terrain-bike from the army, (”Sergeant P., I told you I can “drive” anything whith wheels”)trying to strip the pants of my Bataljon-commanders behind (gave me the nick-name “most dangerous woman of the barracks”) or laying down in the dirt between “my guys” in my cotton summer-dress, high heels parked on my left, at the shooting-range firing a Diemaco the first time in my life, (”darn you, woman, you scored the highest points”), are definitally over.
What’s left is an ill body, but I’m not impaired between my ears, nor at my fingers.
A keyboard maybe does not have the effect of a MAG, it sure can be lethal
So, I fight my “little” fight. Reacting to lies with the other side of the story, (the side that doesn’t come in “handy” when the Dutch leftish wing is going on yet another guilt-trip/brainwash-ideology), giving my Eurabia-reports as a big warning to avoid the trouble that “We” have spreading over the whole globe and fight against all the negativity a Dutch soldier has to face these days. (”My” Regiment as top-priority, ofcourse!!!!)
Drillanwr said:
” Glenn Beck even did an interview with the Muslim woman that had helped Theo Van Gough make the movie for which he was slaughtered. Her name escapes me, however.”
You mean Ayaan Hirsi Ali? (Born in Somalia. Was able to flee from the hands of her “new owner” on a German Airport to seek asylum in Holland.)
(Try to get a hand on her biografy. A whole new world about Islam will be opened to you).
She left The Netherlands, works at the American Enterpise Institute in The U.S.
The movie you are reffering to probably is; Submission.
April 15th, 2007 at 5:49 amSuch a shocking story reveiling `the truth´.
Submission II was already planned. But Van Gogh was killed and Hirsi Ali was given `the pink slip´!!!
Hey Greg-USA, I know in my heart it’s true, but I figured as long as the words are flying instead of bullets, it’s a good thing.
To everyone– I’m not saying muslims should be treated like we did the Japs. in WW2, but what’s wrong with telling them sorry we’re FULL, now take your toys and go the HELL HOME!!!!!!!!!!! If Americans are so bad, why the fuck are muslims here?!!!! They seem to like our schools and women just fine before they deceide to blow something up. I cant speak for everyone else but I’m fine with letting them live out their days in their own shitty country!!!
I don’t mind If you deceide to live here to better yourself, I completely understand that approach but if you cant play nice, GO HOME!!!! Hey! come get your learn on, good-on-ya man, right on for you, and if you should find you don’t like us take your educated ass home. Am I crazy?, I’d be willing to bet the average American doesn’t care what muslims are doing in their own country. In my opinion, Americas wealth has definitely influenced our decadent behavior, but we try to right the wrongs with ideals,words, and votes, not with fire or sword.
Olive branch first folks, if refused, then powder-n-ball! Why cant muslims come here to be educated and then go on some lecture circuit and use words and intellect to let us know what it is they don’t like about what our government is doing in their homeland?
Bottom line—you can get more with sugar than shit!!!
April 15th, 2007 at 5:57 amSanndy Star,
Don´t discrase the memory of a young soldiers picture that is hanging at the wall of my office at the barracks.
A DEAD young soldier.
He was partly Jewish but still went to Srebrenica to offer protection to the Muslim people.
You know what he got?
A handgranade against the back of his head at the 8th of July 1995 and a one way ticket in a bodybag back home.
The granade was thrown at him by a Muslim. His mother forgave the purpretrator gracefully.
Untill this very day The Netherlands is paying millions and millions every year to the Muslims in former Yugoslavia. But all the Muslims do is what they are good in. Complaining.
And yes, the Muslims were slaugtered in the days after Raviv´s dead. But not a Dutch soldier is allowed to be blamed for that.
It´s the United Nothing and a certain French general that are responsible for what happened with the Muslim men and boys. Inform yourselve about this issue!!!
But don´t start talking to me about those `poor` Muslims.
And remember that a Muslim is allowed by the Quran to lie to any infidel.
You should consider living in an appartment on the 7th floor in a building in any mayor city in The Netherlands. After living there for 1 month only we can have this discussion again.
April 15th, 2007 at 6:15 am“You mean Ayaan Hirsi Ali? (Born in Somalia. Was able to flee from the hands of her “new owner” on a German Airport to seek asylum in Holland.)
She left The Netherlands, works at the American Enterpise Institute in The U.S. (Try to get a hand on her biografy. A whole new world about Islam will be opened to you).”
Jeanet,
Yes, I believe that is she. Am I mistaken, or did she actually serve in government there until they found out she was [lying] about her idenity (for her own protection)?
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“To everyone– I’m not saying muslims should be treated like we did the Japs. in WW2, but what’s wrong with telling them sorry we’re FULL, now take your toys and go the HELL HOME!!!!!!!!!!! If Americans are so bad, why the fuck are muslims here?!!!! They seem to like our schools and women just fine before they deceide to blow something up. I cant speak for everyone else but I’m fine with letting them live out their days in their own shitty country!!!”
DocDick,
I agree. But today we are in a different position to demand those Muslims NOT loyal to the terrorist elements to stand up shoulder to shoulder with us and fight them, verbally as well as physically.
April 15th, 2007 at 7:24 amDocDick - “Olive branch first folks, if refused, then powder-n-ball! Why cant muslims come here to be educated and then go on some lecture circuit and use words and intellect to let us know what it is they don’t like about what our government is doing in their homeland?”
Educated, as long as we don’t talk about the Holocaust? We have offered the olive branch first. How is that working out? Take a look at Iran and North Korea. The Iranian “president”, Immagonnadoit, keeps going back and forth saying he will stop, meet this concession, show us his power, no you can’t stop us, on and on. He seems to be buying time for something.
drillanwr stated it correctly, they need to stand shoulder to shoulder with us. Otherwise they are one of them, the bad guys. So, you tell me, why aren’t more muslims standing with us? Like Bush said, “you are either with us or against us”, which from my understanding is exactly how they treat infidels.
April 15th, 2007 at 9:02 amI can honestly say that I’m one of those people who have read the bible from begining to end. I love Jesus but it was like a soap opera. One of the most important things I got from it is that you need to treat everyone right. But this… this is entirely unacceptable. As a CHRISTIAN, I have to say that muslim motherfuckers are crazy. Their “book” says that it’s okay to treat anyone who isn’t muslim however they want. That includes blowing themselves up to kill innocent people and get a reward for it. If they all study it then wouldn’t they all have (at the least) a similar interpretation of this? I tell you the truth… I have a CCDW license and if anyone tried to put their hands on my baby girl (and model), they would be playing catch with a hollow tip. The same thing goes for anyone who threatens the integrity of this great country. That isn’t necessarily about muslims, but a Christian would not put themselves in that situation. And just to let those of you reading this know, I’m not some fucking redneck hillbilly in KY. I’m a Democrat, I’m black, and I’m a banker who is educated and has travelled across the Atlantic and Pacific.
April 15th, 2007 at 9:54 amGreetings:
Is this one of the signs of the apocalypse?
LISTEN UP RECRUITS!
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO, RIGHT DAMN NOW, TO GET THIS INFORMATION SHOVED DOWN THE THROATS OF THE MSM…I MEAN RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!
WHILE YOU ALL ARE BANTERING ABOUT FAT CHICKS AND WHETHER THE QU’RAN GIVES THE RIGHT TO RAPE WOMEN SHIT IS GOING DOWN THAT SHOULD NOT BE GOING DOWN!
YEAH…THAT’S RIGHT! I AM YELLING! YOU ALL HEAR ME?
TELL ME I MISSED SOMETHING TRYING TO READ THROUGH THIS POST WITHOUT SCREAMING!
PAT! WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO, RIGHT THE FUCK NOW, TO GET THIS OUT INTO THE MSM? WHERE DO I GOT TO PROTEST?
I HAVE READ NOTHING ABOUT THIS IN THE MSM. I HAVE SEEN NOR HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THIS!
PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!
Talk all you want about the second amendment…I would be out of doors with a shotgun and a pruning knife RIGHT THE FUCK NOW if I could get to Europe with both.
If this is going on we I MEAN EVERY FUCKING ONE OF YOU need to be doing something and if I missed a post where someone IS doing something let me know about it.
I AM NOW OFFICIALLY FUCKING PISSED THE FUCK OFF!
GANG RAPES!? NOW WAY…NOT ON MY FUCKING WATCH!
God damn…for a few thousand dollars and a pass port…
Tell me what to do, Pat. This has to stop NOW!
Tim Roesch
COMMAND FUCKING PRIVATE GOD DAMN MAJOR - OUT OF FUCKING RETIREMENT
BTW - Babs - frustrated men often make jokes about stuff that they feel they can not do something about…it prevents heads from exploding off necks. I am sure Rumsfeld47 would pick up a weapon and walk a post in the streets of Olso if he could and protect any woman in danger of being raped and I, for one, would be shoulder to shoulder with him.
SIGN ME UP!
April 15th, 2007 at 11:19 am“I’m a Democrat …”
Steve in Louisville, KY :
The first step in kicking an addiction is admitting you have one. You’ve taken the first step, my friend …. LMAO! Just kidding. You sound like a Zell Miller dem, and those are cool.
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“WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO, RIGHT DAMN NOW, TO GET THIS INFORMATION SHOVED DOWN THE THROATS OF THE MSM…I MEAN RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!”
Tim:
The MSM knows … They just 1) don’t give a fuck, 2) DON’T WANT you, or anyone else, to know about it, and 3) have a very clear and focused agenda they are fulfilling
April 15th, 2007 at 11:48 amGreetings:
Drillanwr types-
The MSM knows … They just 1) don’t give a fuck, 2) DON’T WANT you, or anyone else, to know about it, and 3) have a very clear and focused agenda they are fulfilling
Don’t tell me what I already know, soldier. Tell me what needs to be done.
Right at the moment my rage is cold and silent. This is why in other posts I have suggested we make sure of our targets. I was told that I think too much. The reason I think to much is because I have seen red, I have smelled blood and I know the extent of my rage.
Again, Drillanwr
WHAT DO WE DO NOW! I am not thinking strategically but tactically. I am thinking grassroots.
Because I can guarantee you this…given the opportunity to stop this I will. Whether that involves letters or blood, I guarantee you if I find this is correct and not some overblown story…I will release the beast.
Laugh, oh nonbelievers…laugh. Your laughter just might drown out the screams.
Tim
April 15th, 2007 at 11:56 ambetter living through chemistry
Sandy Burglar on Fox News… I didn’t know where else to post this. RIGHT NOW on Fox News, they are doing a story on how he walked out with Top Secret papers.
April 15th, 2007 at 12:05 pmAn organization needs to be formed. Actions need to be taken. The ability to rally enough people to raise enough hell is the entirity of Al Sharpton’s power.
April 15th, 2007 at 12:11 pmGreetings:
I have no money. I have no ear of the powerful but I have two hands and a mouth and a willingness to do what needs to be done.
The silence of the MSM is overwhelming.
What do I need to do because I can assure you if I do something on my own…let’s just say…if there was ever a time in my life where I needed to smoke a joint now might be the time.
I can’t seem to get any of the links to work. I can’t see the video.
I need proof before I go off half cocked. Where should I look for proof of this gang rape thing because I will plop down my last dime to do a mass mailing if I gotta hand deliver. People need to know about this (and I am kind of hoping it’s not true…) and I am willing to do what needs to be done.
Tim
April 15th, 2007 at 12:20 pmTim -
You aren’t alone; a lot of us feel this way. No one listens. We send email, faxes, make phone calls, vote, write blogs and it seems like nothing happens. Our elected officials don’t listen to us, those who put them in office and they are sworn to serve.
If anyone has a good idea about how to get more people to listen and wake up, without a nuke going off in NYC, I am all ears.
April 15th, 2007 at 12:24 pmGreg:
Give me proof. I want stories. I want accounts.
We need ‘Pats’ to go to Europe (or who have been there) and bring back footage. We need that footage of that Egyptian girl being given a cliterectomy…footage of that gang rape of that girl in Afghanistan because she went out uncovered (I remember the village elders punished her with gang rape and there was a tape)
What we need to do is put together a package and shove it down the throat of America.
We need to proof.
Personally, if I were a Marine I would be parading every damn day infront of NY Times offices 24/7.
We need a drumbeat, troops. We need a crescendo. We need pictures and billboards and if posters need to be put up, if speeches need to be replayed over hijacked airwaves…if this piece about Muslim women that PBS DIDN’T air needs to be forced onto the airwaves somehow…
Tell me there’s a SIGINT person out there somewhere who knows how to get stuff infront of the American people.
If, indeed, woman are being gang raped (not just one or two…every culture has it’s ‘baddies’) but gang raped then people need to know because it will come here.
Instead of muttering about what we CAN’T do, troops, let’s start thinking about what we CAN do.
We needs something shocking, verifiable and in your face…
Enough with the muttering and bitching…enough with the emoticons and beer steins and tough talk…
What CAN we do, people? What CAN we do before it’s too late.
I stopped listening to Rush because I am tired of talking and being angry. I want to do something.
If this is true…
who wants to be a PAMF with me?
I SAID! WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO BE A PAMF WITH ME!
Tim
April 15th, 2007 at 12:35 pmI am not familiar with all the terms. I Googled “PAMF” but am sure you don’t mean Palo Alto Medical Facility.
April 15th, 2007 at 12:42 pmI am going home…I can’t grade papers in the mood I am in.
I swear, if I find this story is overblown blog bullshit…
I haven’t been this pissed since April of 1992. Ask me Rummie what I did in the California Pizza Kitchen in Glendale, CA? Ask me what I did at the intersection of shit! I can’t remember the streets but it involved a squad car. Ask me why I was on the corner of Kingsley and Santa Monica with a Bennelli. Ask me what I swore I would do to Gates for abandoning LA if I ever saw him. Ask me what I did to the parents of my students at Foshay Junior High School, region C.
I hate me when I feel this way.
Give me proof, gentlemen and I will show you what can be done. Give me the truth and I will fashion a weapon that will be heard.
Yes, I do have weird things on my mind. Twenty years of watching children fucked by the education system in this country has resulted in my needing an outlet for my anger that doesn’t lose me my credential.
My motto, gentlemen, is revenge is a dish best served stone cold.
The time to stop talking is now, people.
Hope has two beautiful daugters - Anger and Courage. Hope also has a bastard step son called Persistence.
Hope’s ex husband is vengeance…though he still sees the kids on weekends.
Get my point?
Tim
April 15th, 2007 at 12:47 pmhttp://www.expressen.se/1.188807
Reported less than a month ago.
April 15th, 2007 at 1:03 pmhttp://www.balder.org/articles/hatespeech/James-Waite-Racist-Murder-Sweden.php
April 15th, 2007 at 1:06 pmDrillanwr commented:
“Jeanet,
Yes, I believe that is she. Am I mistaken, or did she actually serve in government there until they found out she was [lying] about her idenity (for her own protection)?”
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She made a brilliant carriere in almost 2 years with the result of actually being seated in the government.
After the left wing had fully used her for their own good, a s.o.b.-journalist digged until he found some dirt. Exit Ayaan H. Ali.
She was on the same death-list Van Gogh was on. After Van Gogh’s bloody execution on a morning around 9 in the middel of Amsterdam, she “disappeared” to God only knows where. “For her own protection!!!”.
Yeah, right.
The Muslim-hugging gang couldn’t handle another Jihad-killing. Cause all the “respect, be tollerant”-political correctness would have been thrown back into their faces by an angry mob of Dutch people.
After the Dutch population was lulled back to sleep, she was of no use anymore. Mostly because she didn’t want to be silenced in her critisism against the Islam.
I read an article some 6 months ago that after almost a year of living a life without heavy security, she was on a death-list again, thrown back into the situation of being protected by armed security. This time the treat came from American Muslims.
“They” want these kind of people to be silenced forever. Yet another warning from the Eurabian country of The Netherlands!!!
After she was used for this
April 15th, 2007 at 1:20 pmYou know, if it was white Christian men doing these things the media would be sounding sirens.
I’m telling you. look at the code words being used to describe these criminals. It is carefully omitted that they are “Muslim” … Always it’s immigrants, or immigrant youths or in France they just say youths. If they were white and Christian the media would have no problem not only identifying them, but doing entire shows on the intolerance of Christians and Christianity.
And to top it all off, there are people who will read this post and label me a racist!
George Orwell sure knew his shit. Bet he’s damn glad he didn’t live to see it.
April 15th, 2007 at 1:21 pmSorry, the last sentence in this comment, being; “….After she was used for this” slipped trough without me wanting it.
April 15th, 2007 at 1:23 pmNo need to feel sorry for the Europeans, this is what they have chosen to do, instead feel sorry for the sold out European heritage, for our history soon to be erased, for all the works of art to be destroyed and burnt, all far more worth then the many spineless witless socialist europeans.
April 15th, 2007 at 11:00 pmMy current dilemma:
There are so many fronts. There are too many battles fragmented all over. All of them being allowed and reinforced by the left. I don’t know where the enemy is weakest!
Fighting a bunch of little battles will only reinforce the left. The left will speak their spin an it will be believed by most. There needs to be a concerted war - not just battles. Political arena is a waste, but it can’t be ignored.
Just thinking out loud! Give feedback if anyone has ideas on how to establish a concerted front line. I don’t have the freaking answers. I am getting buried by the immense tide of leftist shit.
So far I’ve identified that I need:
April 16th, 2007 at 8:52 amAn ACLU opposition to protect conservatives
A lobby against illegal immigration
A grass roots motivational upheval of conservatives
Update on PA gun laws
Republican Metcalfe has an article “Disarmed and Defenseless: An Inside Look at the Liberal, Gun-Grabbing Agenda of PA House’s “Reformed” Democrat Majority”
http://www.repmetcalfe.com/?sectionid=59§iontree=59&itemid=405
Dam freaking libs
April 16th, 2007 at 9:03 amTuesday April 24 in Harrisburg Capitol building steps. Rep Metcalfe is asking for a show in numbers for the press conference. I’ll be there.
John,
“Steewers” or no “Steewers”, us Browns fans will storm the state lines to assist yunz!
April 16th, 2007 at 9:07 amHey Folks We have this going on right here and now in the good old USA with the illegal Hispanic Population that our government must want here.They are absolutely destroying communities and turning this country 3rd world.What are we going to do about it?
April 18th, 2007 at 7:12 pm