The New American Dictator

May 7th, 2007 Posted By Pat Dollard.

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George Soros thinks he can use his money to skirt the laws of the United States and run the Federal Government as Dictator from the shadows. Is this the government our troops are fighting for?

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WASHINGTON, May 4 — Every morning, representatives from a cluster of antiwar groups gather for a conference call with Democratic leadership staff members in the House and the Senate.

Shortly after, in a cramped meeting room here, they convene for a call with organizers across the country. They hash out plans for rallies. They sketch out talking points for “rapid response” news conferences. They discuss polls they have conducted in several dozen crucial Congressional districts and states across the country.

Over the last four months, the Iraq deliberations in Congress have lurched from a purely symbolic resolution rebuking the president’s strategy to timetables for the withdrawal of American troops. Behind the scenes, an elaborate political operation, organized by a coalition of antiwar groups and fine-tuned to wrestle members of Congress into place one by one, has helped nudge the debate forward.

But there are tensions in the relationship between the groups, which banded together earlier this year under the umbrella of Americans Against Escalation in Iraq, and the Democratic leadership. The fissures could be magnified in coming weeks as the House speaker, Nancy Pelosi of California, and the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, struggle to cobble together a strategy after President Bush’s veto of the $124 billion Iraq spending bill that tied the money to a timetable for withdrawal.

On Thursday, leaders of the liberal group MoveOn.org, including Tom Matzzie, the group’s Washington director who also serves as the campaign manager for the coalition, sent a harshly worded warning to the Democratic leadership.

“In the past few days, we have seen what appear to be trial balloons signaling a significant weakening of the Democratic position,” the letter read. “On this, we want to be perfectly clear: if Democrats appear to capitulate to Bush — passing a bill without measures to end the war — the unity Democrats have enjoyed and Democratic leadership has so expertly built, will immediately disappear.”

The letter went on to say that if Democrats passed a bill “without a timeline and with all five months of funding,” they would essentially be endorsing a “war without end.” MoveOn, it said, “will move to a position of opposition.”

The antiwar coalition combines the online mobilization capabilities of MoveOn with the old-school political muscle of organized labor. They have been working in tandem with Democratic leadership in both the House and the Senate on a systematic strategy to unify Democrats, divide Republicans and isolate the president.

The alliance, including MoveOn, chose to stick with Ms. Pelosi as she ushered through a war financing bill that included a timeline for withdrawal, but many peace advocates called the measure too timid. Some critics accused the alliance of becoming too cozy with the Democratic leadership and selling out the cause.

“There’s a dividing line between those groups who feel the most important thing is to be clear on bringing the troops home as soon as possible, and the groups that feel that unity within the Democratic Party is most important and the most important thing is for the Democrats to win the White House,” said Medea Benjamin, a co-founder of Code Pink, an antiwar group that is not part of the alliance. “So the groups who feel the most important thing is to win the White House would naturally be more inclined to listening to Speaker Nancy Pelosi when she says the only way we can get a vote through is if we water it down.”

Many of the major players in Americans Against Escalation in Iraq earned their stripes not from sit-ins, marches and other acts of civil disobedience but as Democratic operatives on Capitol Hill and in political campaigns. The sophisticated political operation they have built is a testament to how far the antiwar movement has come since the Vietnam era.

But Tom Andrews, a former Democratic congressman from Maine and the national director of Win Without War, a member of the coalition, said there existed a “healthy tension” between working closely with Democratic lawmakers on Capitol Hill, many of whom were former colleagues and friends, and continuing to prod them to end the war.

“Our constituency is the people across this country who want to shut this war down,” Mr. Andrews said. “It’s not the Democratic Party.”

Mr. Matzzie underscored the coalition’s approach to a roomful of members on Thursday at the outset of a planning retreat at the headquarters of the Service Employees International Union here.

“The principle under which we’ve been operating is more like a political campaign,” Mr. Matzzie said. “The central strategy is creating that toxic environment for people who want to continue this debacle.”

The discussion at the retreat mirrored that of planning meetings for traditional political campaigns, with presentations on polling, strategy and field operations.

“It’s no different than if you went over to the offices of Clinton for President, Obama for President, Giuliani for President,” said Brad Woodhouse, president of Americans United for Change, which has roots in organized labor and came out of the legislative battle over social security in 2005.

The coalition, which has raised $7.1 million since January, has concentrated its activities on 57 House districts and senators in nine states, places where they believe Republican lawmakers face tough races in 2008 or have shown signs of wavering in their support for the president.

The service employees’ union has mobilized its phone bank in New York City and asked local leaders to call members of Congress. Leaders of the union, long closely allied with liberal lawmakers, helped assuage many progressives who were uneasy about voting for the war-financing bill, fearing criticism from the left.

The National Security Network, a collection of liberal-leaning military and foreign policy experts headed by Rand Beers, former national security adviser to the presidential campaign of Senator John Kerry, has deployed former generals and officials to persuade individual lawmakers.

The coalition’s influence comes from its connections on Capitol Hill and political shrewdness, as well as its grass-roots reach. “The whole movement has updated themselves to be where campaign-style politics are generally,” said Stephanie Cutter, a Democratic strategist. “They’re just incredibly savvy, tactically and politically. They know how to use the news cycle.”

Most important for lawmakers, said Mr. Andrews, the former congressman from Maine, the coalition members are committed to using their resources to changing the political climate in their districts, which gives them credibility on Capitol Hill.

“We want members of Congress to do the right thing and do very well as a result,” he said. “We’re not just there asking them to do the right thing without fully recognizing the task we have on hand.”

Rodell Mollineau, a spokesman for Mr. Reid’s office, said the coalition amplifies what Democrats are trying to do in Washington to end the war.

“It helps us reverberate a unified message outside the Beltway,” he said. “These groups give voice to a message we’re trying to get outside.”

One of the coalition’s strengths is its diversity, bringing to together groups like MoveOn.org and organized labor on one end and former Iraq veterans in the group Votevets.org on the other, members said. But that diversity can also create some tense moments, as each of the groups have different constituencies and some of the groups are more invested in the Democratic Party than others.

But the organizations came together based on a sense of pragmatism, said Mr. Woodhouse, of Americans United for Change, “that we’re better fighting together than fighting apart.”

After the president’s veto this week, the coalition organized 358 rallies and more than 20 news conferences across the country. Organizers had met with leadership staff members the week before to coordinate.

On Friday, in a daily conference call, Tara McGuinness, the coalition’s deputy campaign manager, told members that leadership aides had expressed gratitude for the work, saying it had helped bolster members of their caucus.

Ms. McGuiness also told them that she had received assurances from leadership staff members that all options were still being considered for the new version of the war spending bill.

“The latest word from them is they are talking more and more about a short-leash option,” she said, referring to a plan in the House that would finance the war for only about three more months and require the administration to report back on progress being made by the Iraqi government. Congress would then vote again on the rest of the money requested by Mr. Bush.

Members of the Senate appear to be cool to the idea, but it has currency among some liberal advocates and members of the coalition.

Mr. Matzzie, of MoveOn, was clear about the stakes in the coming weeks, saying his group was only getting started. He emphasized that the next emergency spending bill must be one “to end the war.”

“This is act one of a three-act play,” he said. “Act two will be the summer. During the summer, our job is to create a firestorm of opposition.”


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50 Responses

  1. RockinRobin

    We MUST band together and vote republican.

  2. RockinRobin

    I read somewhere that only 33% of the American public voted. WE MUST GET OUT AND VOTE against these facists, defeatist assholes!

  3. RockinRobin

    Recent House Votes

    Veto Override, Emergency Supplemental Appropriations - Vote Failed (222-203, 1 Present, 7 Not Voting)

    The House fell over 60 votes short of overturning President Bush’s veto of a $124 billion spending bill that would have set a timetable for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

  4. J_dub

    They have money and the media on their side. It honestly looks pretty hopeless. What can we do?

  5. Luke

    Lets not be to hasty…although I disagree with Soros I do not think he has any real weight when faced with the truth. No we shouldn’t just vote Republican because we have far to many weak need Republicans that need the boot. Third Soros is right there are problems facing Iraqs Democracy but his “solutions” get us no where and Bush is doing the right thing.

  6. Greg - USA

    Wow… all of their replies seemed very scripted as if they were given time to think about the answer. Yea, that’s someone I want in power that has to wait and take polls and make sure everyone agrees and every other possibility is thought out to every extreme before taking action. Just like the Fairness Doctrine, “we need time to formulate a proper response.” Too bad that doesn’t always work in the real world and while you are waiting, they are regrouping.

    They also never committed to anything. Their replies were all open ended with no stance on anything. I guess that just gives them room to flip or flop as they move through a situation and adjust based on polls, like they are doing now.

  7. Engineer Jim

    Is it just me, or is a storm coming? Those of us who support our brave fighting men and women and indeed our victory over Islamic fascism, have NOTHING in common with the American left or any other leftist for that matter. There is no middle ground for concilliation in my view. Too many people wink and pretend that they are just malcontent countrymen. They are not countrymen. We share no common values nor shall we ever. They are for defeat and humiliation of America and our brave fighting men and women. American patriots are for victory. Our military can’t be beaten when turned loose on the enemy. Maybe we should turn them loose on the leftists who are attacking in their rear, Harry Reid, George Soros, et. al.

  8. Matt

    Gotta love O’Reilly!

    If the country elects Hillary & keeps the house and senate Dem, what will our country be like in 2012?

    Scary thought… :sad:

  9. Bane

    If fucking France can muster, what, 84-87% of their population to vote (correctly, for a change) in this weekends election, what’s our excuse?

  10. Fight4TheRight

    A little fact about George Soros. He has a philanthropic arm of his financial empire named Open Society. A number of years ago, the Open Society wrote a check out for $20,000.00 to help the defense of a NYC attorney by the name of Lynne Stewart.

    Lynne Stewart by the way, was the defense attorney for the jihadists that planned the original parking ramp bombings of the World Trade Center! Thankfully, Lynne Stewart has recently been disbarred as she was in essence convicted of passing terroristic messages to and from her defendents.

    That, that is the kind of person George Soros is. Soros aids and abets terrorists who attack the U.S. on U.S. soil. And he wants to direct who runs our government?

  11. John

    Hey,

    Screw all you libs, keep it up and you will know the will of the people. You are all so stupid. They, the army of Bin Laden want us all dead. If it was just you, all you liberal f***en liberal dems, that would be ok with me, but it is all of us infidels. My kids, my grand kids and everyone here in the USA. Leave now and they will follow us back here and there will be thousands of 9/11’s.

    Yes, we need to vote now and in 2008 to send these people home so they no longer have any say in the government.

  12. Greg - USA

    Matt - “… what will our country be like in 2012?”

    When the Mayan calendar ends, eh?

  13. Tim in FL

    We are in the midst of a propaganda war. Soros is counting on the ignorance of the American population in order to implement his agenda!

    We have to spread the word on this as Edmund Burke once said, “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

    BTW, Bill O’Reilly has a new Talking Points memo - Hurricane Soros is getting stronger
    http://www.foxnews.com/video2/launchPage.html?050707/050707_views_oreilly&Talking%20Points%3A%205/7&OReilly_Factor_Talking_Points&Hurricane%20Soros%20is%20getting%20stronger&Bill%20O%27Reilly&-1&Talking%20Points%3A%205/7&Video%20Launch%20Page&Opinion

    Cheers to Pat for continuing to put the spotlight on Soros! Thank you! :beer: :beer:

  14. Dr D Semper FI

    Flood moveon.org with your feelings, I sent them a fucked filled comment!

  15. terrysmyth

    who is that fuckweasel who is so dedicated to the enviroment that is fucked as he sez after seeing the movie, christ he cant even afford a razor, nor give a relevant discourse on why its so. go to movon.org and sign the petition? get fucked you uninteresting slovenly leftard :twisted: :evil:

  16. jjjaks

    I dont even want to give that website any hits. STAY AWAY!!!

  17. Pegit

    George Soros is the leopard that never changes his spots. I swear the man is evil.

    He (his family) did change his name and work for the Nazis though.

    “Soros was thirteen years old when Nazi Germany took military control over its wavering ally Hungary (March 21, 1944), and started exterminating Hungarian Jews[6] in the Holocaust. Soros worked briefly for the Jewish Council, which had been established by the Nazis, to deliver messages to Jewish lawyers being called for deportation. Soros was not aware of the consequence of the messages.”
    Did he think they were being sent to summer camp?? How could you NOT know in 1944 what was going on with the Jews by the Nazis?

    “The bulk of his enormous winnings is now devoted to encouraging transitional and emerging nations to become ‘open societies,’ open not only in the sense of freedom of commerce but - more important - tolerant of new ideas and different modes of thinking and behavior.”

    Does anyone see this the way I do in regards to how MoveOn and other dumb ass libs think how the US needs to be more like Europe?

    I am quoting from Wiki - yes they suck but they have this part right.

  18. DEVILDOG81MM

    6 democrate men arrested plotting to attack soldiers at FORT DIX

  19. Mike

    The exposure this rift between the Soros dems and the rest of the dems could be the best thing that can happen.
    The Soros dems know that if they want to truly stifle the war effort, the congress needs to cut the funding–pure and simple. Until they do that, the Soros dems will not be happy with dems in congress. End the war at all cost and give up on our troops is the message of the Soros crowd. The dems living the good life in congress don’t want to go quite that far. Soros wants desparately to be the king. His drive may separate the dems to the point of no return. Stay in touch with your congressional contacts and voice your support of our military heroes.

  20. Steve in NC

    re: using voting to keep these fools out of office, yes it could work if a larger number participated because the stupid and lazy which are a large element of the d’rats supporters are simply too lazy and stupid to find themselves at the polls on time, giving the Republicans a majority by default.

    Luke - re the comment
    “No we shouldn’t just vote Republican because we have far to many weak need Republicans that need the boot.”
    I fear that is what happened in the last election, that displeasure with the Republican led congress let d’rats in. Elections can be the choice of lesser evils. I do not like being dedicated to a political party for my ‘need’ to feel I am independent minded and above the influences of a party. Well, looking at the fact that the d’rats won some seats with ‘conservative’ d’rat candidates who have then voted nearly lockstep with reid and pelosi, I have decided for the foreseeable future that I will continue to pull the lever for the party of Lincoln.

    The rino’s need to be dealt with in primaries and not when facing a d’rat.

    Why can’t a jet soros is in catch some jet wash from some unkown plane?

  21. EZRider

    Soros reminds me of a rabbid hyena frothing at the mouth. The guy is a nut job.

  22. Greg - USA

    The kid talking about Global Warming - This should be a case study in how people believe everything they read and see, especially when it is presented in a nice, neat package, instead of doing due diligence on your own. The information came from an authority figure and they made a nice movie about it so it must be true! No need to check the facts.

  23. John in PA

    J_dub
    If you’re serious about doing something Then you need to offer your email to Tim Roesch thru Pat. There is no big hammer - only many little hammers. Must work together on a little hammer

  24. John in PA

    Pat thanks for the coverage on King of Democrats George Soros. I find it interesting that this ditwad talks about there being no GWOT, because I suspect it was he who started the whole thing. That the “No GWOT” crap went through to some jackass editing our nations standards and also made official claims in like manner in Britain tells me that the vid above was probably form several months ago.

    We can overcome if we stick together.

  25. carol m

    Am I supposed to know who that stupid punk is in the video ad for “the environment/Moveon?” Pathetic. What he doesn’t know is in his naive ignorance, he has a greater probability of dying of a dirty nuke in his subway or shopping mall than he does of a.) China cleaning up its filthy environment b.) “global warming” c.) getting struck by lightning. This guy is probably a product of one of our wonderful institutions of “higher learning”, which are, for the most part, actually brain washing sites for the liberal left.

  26. Squire

    A double “O” needs to visit with ___.

    The name’s Bond. James Bond…

  27. JARHEADOX

    Thanks for throwing in the O’Reilly clips, but my God, the rest of them were painful to listen to. These are ELECTED LEADERS of MY country. How disgusted our Forefathers would be to see this.

    “No we shouldn’t just vote Republican because we have far to many weak need Republicans that need the boot.”

    Evidently that was too popular a view in 2006. Americans who thought they were punishing the GOP by voting Democrat should be ashamed. Now our country is paying the price, especially our troops, who hear this constant leftist drivel about how they’ve failed in Iraq from the new House and Senate leaders, appointed after voters decided it was “time for change”.

    Semper Fi

  28. Brad W

    What we need to realize is that when we have elected Republicans that do wrong, rather than have those same people run for re-election, the local and state Republican party chairpersons need to ensure that they are getting viable candidates on the ticket. What happened during the election of 2006 was a typical case of too many people cutting off their noses to spite their faces, and now they and so many others are paying the price. Those who voted democrat just because they were ticked off at the republicans need to wake up, and quick.

    If the French could elect a conservative to their highest office, we can keep our country afloat, and regain the control needed. The MSM has been served notice by the recent elections in france, whatever spin they put on it remains to be seen here. What we as proud Americans need to do is to contact out local state and federal elected officials, let them know how we feel, and keep contacting them. As many times as you can. Drop by the local office of your congressman or represtative. let them know how you feel, that is what they understand. Tell them that you are going to be totally supportive of any candidate that is for our troops and will not welch on our pledge of support to the Iraqi people, and if they talk of supporting a withdrawal before victory, that you will do everything in tyour power to oppse their re-election. They fear opposition. Remember that, and be vocal when it is needed

    Thank you again Pat for giving us a place to share with everyone, and for helping bring the truth out for us.

  29. 0311inohio

    It is scary to think and look back at where this country was 15 or so years ago and where where the fuck we are at now. The fucking Democrats will sell their soul to the devil for a littl power and money, fuck this country and fuck our troops. JFK has got to be rolling over in his grave as, I am sure, are the vast majority of long gone good patriotic Dems. Truman has got to be scratching his head and thinking; What the fuck? It is like the blind leading the blind. Now where did I put that barf bag? :evil:

  30. FTL

    what a bunch of empty headed idiots.

    gotta’ thank O’Reilly for his reporting and candor… :beer:

    that funny youtube Eco-idiot is so typical of the stupid young uninformed masses. the idiot should read State of Fear , etc. & realize the global/eco fears are created to control us & make us feel bad about the USA (our country)…

    Leftist bastards need to step off the cliff already.

    SO psyched to hear we will be deploying another 35k troops. We need victory :!:

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  32. Death2Chickenhawks

    I say we need a man like Fred Thompson Senator from Tennessee;

  33. John Cunningham

    Timely OT. By now most everyone should have heard of the terrorists plot discovered around Fort Dix. Back in the 60’s and 70’s when I was in the States I was lucky enough to be assinged there once for 9 months and once for 6 months. From the Wrightstown Gate to my parent’s driveway was 56 miles. The big decision at the end of the day was should I go home or spend the night in Philadelphia or New York. Decisions decisions. Perhaps this event that unfolded today will bring everyone to their senses.

  34. Gramps

    0311 inOhio speaks: It is scary to think and look back at where this country was 15 or so years ago and where where the fuck we are at now. The fucking Democrats will sell their soul to the devil for a littl power and money, fuck this country and fuck our troops.

    It goes back a lot further then 15 years. All the way back to the numbnuts and Vietnam. They sold us out then, and are doing it once again.

  35. 0311inohio

    Gramps: Agreed on being sold out in Vietnam. But I was speaking more to the fucking political correctness, the illegal immigration and all the crap during the Klinton years that has led us to where we are today.

    I keep telling everyone that will listen that we are in the fight of our lives and our way of life.

    I RECEIVED FOLLOWING THE OTHER DAY
    A LITTLE FOOD FOR THOUGHT!!!!

    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

    “A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.”

    “A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.” “From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”

    “The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.”

    “During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    1. from bondage to spiritual faith;

    2. from spiritual faith to great courage;

    3. from courage to liberty;

    4. from liberty to abundance;

    5. from abundance to complacency;

    6. from complacency to apathy;

    7. from apathy to dependence;

    8. from dependence back into bondage”

  36. Gramps

    0311, yeah I’ve seen that before. Probably too much truth in it. Keep’em locked & loaded cause were gonna need them sooner or later.

  37. Matt

    Death2Chickenhawks –

    I’m starting to lose confidence in Fred Thompson.

    How long does he plan on waiting for pete’s sake?

    I guess he wants to “make sure” he can win before he decidest to run….what a crock!

  38. John in PA

    Why do we hesitate to do anything? List is miles long…

    All of us must stop making excuses and stop building road blocks. We are the best dam nation in the world and its still worth fighting for. If we wait it might not be worth fiting for. This part of the war is at home. Everyone can take part.

    Know our enemy! Define them. Portray them in their true light. Do this on what ever media you can - cds, web sites, front lawn, whatever… Have faith, don’t refrain for fear of judgement and opposition. Stand for your beliefs and defend your beliefs.

    So, how many of us can really say yes?

    Today, if we stand up for what we believe and if we define and portray our enemies we will be chastized by a few. If we wait a few years, we will be thrown in Jail for discrimination.

  39. F-BOMB

    Pat,
    People wonder why we need to fight terrorism……….its starting to be a domestic issue! The following is a link to a attempted terrorist attack at Fort Dicks!

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003698065_webplot08.html

  40. Allen

    Looks like the dems ain’t got no balls and really like licking the excrement exit of moveon.org and George Soros. So much for knowing how real men ought to behave. Everyone could take a lesson from the real men in the “sandbox”.

  41. xyz

    this is the kind of stuff people read about soros, thinking he’s a humanitarian:

    Manhattan’s Community School District 2 is recuiting students for Millennium High School, one of 23 new schools financed with $30 million grant from Carnegie Corp, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and George Soros’s Open Society Institute…

    that’s why your posts are important, pat.

  42. Greg - USA

    Here is the Breck Girl’s latest. We have to get going to fight this bullshit. Billboards anyone?

    Congress has reached a fork in the road on the war in Iraq and they urgently need your help to choose the right path.

    One direction leads straight to more war with no end in sight. It’s a road paved with symbolic deauthorization bills, hoping for veto-overrides that never come, and so-called temporary extensions that give Bush all the money he needs without ever actually bringing a single troop home.

    But in the other direction lies real action—using Congress’ funding power right now to pass another binding plan to force George Bush to actually end this war.

    Only massive, direct public pressure will get Congress to choose the right path. Congress took the right first step by passing their last funding bill. But following Bush’s veto the resolve in Washington has started to fade. If we want to end this war, we’ve got to speak up now.

    So this week we’re gathering 100,000 voices calling on Congress to stand firm and send back a binding plan to end the war. We’re at nearly 70,000 signatures now, and we need your help to get over the top. Please sign our emergency petition right away.

    www.johnedwards.com/standfirm

    After you’ve signed yourself, please ask at least one person you know to do the same. Getting to 100,000 will take all of us.

    The latest news from Washington is that Congress is considering abandoning their binding plan to end the war and instead give Bush another extension—probably until September. This is completely irresponsible. When September rolls around, we’ll be right back in the same place and Bush will push for another extension, just like he’s been doing for years.

    This has to stop now. It’s already clear that the escalation has failed. Bush has no authority to use American troops to police a civil war, but that’s what he’s doing. There is no military solution to the sectarian violence in Iraq.

    Enough is enough. It’s time to end the war. And that means no more extensions, no more delays, no more non-binding anything.

    If Congress is going to find the courage to end the war, they’re going to need to get it from you. This is the moment of choice. The road our nation embarks down this week will have massive consequences for our troops, their families, and our country. And as citizens who know this war needs to end, we must raise our voice today.

    We’re aiming to deliver 100,000 signatures this week to show Congress that the American people are counting on them to end this war. Please help make that happen by adding your name today, and finding as many people as you can to join our call.

    www.johnedwards.com/standfirm

    Thank you,

    –John Edwards
    Tuesday, May 08, 2007

    P.S. Last week, your tremendous outpouring of support enabled us to run an emergency ad in Washington DC calling on Congress to stand firm, and then to expand the plan to run the ad in Iowa. You can see the original and Iowa version of the ad, as well as the version with dozens of citizens voices added in online, at: www.johnedwards.com/wethepeople

  43. Greg - USA

    Part I of II. Here is the Breck Girl’s latest. We have to get going to fight this bullshit. Billboards anyone?

    Congress has reached a fork in the road on the war in Iraq and they urgently need your help to choose the right path.

    One direction leads straight to more war with no end in sight. It’s a road paved with symbolic deauthorization bills, hoping for veto-overrides that never come, and so-called temporary extensions that give Bush all the money he needs without ever actually bringing a single troop home.

    But in the other direction lies real action—using Congress’ funding power right now to pass another binding plan to force George Bush to actually end this war.

    Only massive, direct public pressure will get Congress to choose the right path. Congress took the right first step by passing their last funding bill. But following Bush’s veto the resolve in Washington has started to fade. If we want to end this war, we’ve got to speak up now.

    So this week we’re gathering 100,000 voices calling on Congress to stand firm and send back a binding plan to end the war. We’re at nearly 70,000 signatures now, and we need your help to get over the top. Please sign our emergency petition right away.

    www.johnedwards.com/standfirm

    After you’ve signed yourself, please ask at least one person you know to do the same. Getting to 100,000 will take all of us.

  44. Greg - USA

    Part II of II.

    The latest news from Washington is that Congress is considering abandoning their binding plan to end the war and instead give Bush another extension—probably until September. This is completely irresponsible. When September rolls around, we’ll be right back in the same place and Bush will push for another extension, just like he’s been doing for years.

    This has to stop now. It’s already clear that the escalation has failed. Bush has no authority to use American troops to police a civil war, but that’s what he’s doing. There is no military solution to the sectarian violence in Iraq.

    Enough is enough. It’s time to end the war. And that means no more extensions, no more delays, no more non-binding anything.

    If Congress is going to find the courage to end the war, they’re going to need to get it from you. This is the moment of choice. The road our nation embarks down this week will have massive consequences for our troops, their families, and our country. And as citizens who know this war needs to end, we must raise our voice today.

    We’re aiming to deliver 100,000 signatures this week to show Congress that the American people are counting on them to end this war. Please help make that happen by adding your name today, and finding as many people as you can to join our call.

    www.johnedwards.com/standfirm

    Thank you,

    –John Edwards
    Tuesday, May 08, 2007

    P.S. Last week, your tremendous outpouring of support enabled us to run an emergency ad in Washington DC calling on Congress to stand firm, and then to expand the plan to run the ad in Iowa. You can see the original and Iowa version of the ad, as well as the version with dozens of citizens voices added in online, at: www.johnedwards.com/wethepeople

  45. Greg - USA

    Trying again, for part II.

    Part II of II.

    The latest news from Washington is that Congress is considering abandoning their binding plan to end the war and instead give Bush another extension—probably until September. This is completely irresponsible. When September rolls around, we’ll be right back in the same place and Bush will push for another extension, just like he’s been doing for years.

    This has to stop now. It’s already clear that the escalation has failed. Bush has no authority to use American troops to police a civil war, but that’s what he’s doing. There is no military solution to the sectarian violence in Iraq.

    Enough is enough. It’s time to end the war. And that means no more extensions, no more delays, no more non-binding anything.

    If Congress is going to find the courage to end the war, they’re going to need to get it from you. This is the moment of choice. The road our nation embarks down this week will have massive consequences for our troops, their families, and our country. And as citizens who know this war needs to end, we must raise our voice today.

    We’re aiming to deliver 100,000 signatures this week to show Congress that the American people are counting on them to end this war. Please help make that happen by adding your name today, and finding as many people as you can to join our call.

    www.johnedwards.com/standfirm

    Thank you,

    –John Edwards
    Tuesday, May 08, 2007

    P.S. Last week, your tremendous outpouring of support enabled us to run an emergency ad in Washington DC calling on Congress to stand firm, and then to expand the plan to run the ad in Iowa. You can see the original and Iowa version of the ad, as well as the version with dozens of citizens voices added in online, at: www.johnedwards.com/wethepeople

  46. J_dub

    This shit is despicable. Just another blatant example of how our “democratic Congress” cares only about furthering their agenda. “Send the bill back again and again”??? Insteas of wasting their time, how’s about making some progress on immigration reform, or social security, or some health care that I can finally afford?!

  47. waterless

    Gramps- I agree that it goes back to the numbnuts and vietnam– What we see in politics and those in a position to manipulate through the media is a result of reaping what this country sowed in the 60s. The unwashed hippies now wear suits and ties, and twist our laws inorder to undermine the country.

    All I know is no third world, murdering religious psychotic, raper of children and small farm animals is gonna make me a slave.

  48. John in PA

    Greg - USA says

    “Part I of II. Here is the Breck Girl’s latest. We have to get going to fight this bullshit. Billboards anyone?”

    Greg, I recommend you get your email to Tim roesch via Pat.

  49. Greg - USA

    John in PA - I posted an update about this but it was so far down in the list I guess it was missed.

    Tim Roesch left out part of the email, which is as follows.

    “I was looking at doing something very simple, like those black and white “God” billboards that were all over the place. They are also a lot cheaper to create. I thought of doing it three ways, each with Pat’s website mentioned. I have not yet asked for his permission.

    “The war is not lost. We are winning in Iraq.”
    PatDollard.com

    “…what the Dems don’t want you to know”
    PatDollard.com

    Or just the plain black and white with just the PatDollard.com site mentioned.”

    The last one, with just the website name, is what I was told would get the most attention. When people who are already convinced the US is wrong see the statements in the first two they will more than likely not go to the website. When you have just the website it is intriguing enough to get them to look into it if for nothing more than curiosity. There would also need to be something on the website to suck them in as most people spend about five seconds before looking away. The simple white letters on a black background are also the least expensive to create.

    Lamar Advertising, no relation to Senator Lamar Alexander, does have locations throughout the US. The signs shouldn’t be placed in areas that are mostly Republican as that is juts preaching to the choir. The vinyl signs can also be pulled down and packed up to be re-used later. They also give price discounts for the type of organization doing this, for example a non-profit would get a lower price. The costs I listed above are just for ONE billboard. The prices change based on location and number of billboards. I would assume the more billboards we use, the cost will drop per billboard but probably not the cost to create the vinyl wrap. I only contacted one company so others may have a better price. Also, it would be a good idea to find someone in this industry who feels the same way and maybe they will help with pricing.

    I don’t know the legal side of this or how that could be handled. Off the top of my head I would say we could send money to Pat or a specific account set up to fund this. All of the ducks will have to be in a row on this because the left will do anything they can to tear this down if it gets any traction. They will investigate Pat, or whoever does this, and where and how the money was spent and where it came from. This has to be done in a way so there is no question about misappropriating the money or ill intent and everything has to be documented.

    I am all for doing this. I was actually looking into this before Tim posted his idea to the group. I haven’t talked with anyone yet as I wanted to find out more to see if it was even doable. I am ready to donate some money but if this is going to happen it needs to get out there as soon as possible.

    Thoughts?

  50. Indy

    I’m starting to lose confidence in Fred Thompson.

    How long does he plan on waiting for pete’s sake?

    I guess he wants to “make sure” he can win before he decidest to run….what a crock!

    Fred Thompson has contractual agreements through the end of the month. He can not announce until after that time. There is an equal time issue imposed on candidates

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