Comments on: Libertarians and the War: “Ron Paul Doesn’t Speak For All Of Us” https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/ Eventually, I learned the joys of killing. But I’m skipping ahead of myself. I landed in Iraq in November 2004 armed with a video camera instead of a weapon... Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:54:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Dan https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28414 Dan Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:34:12 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28414 Guliani, wiped the floor with Paul. As will every other GOP candidate. Love the pic. They should do a movie together. Nothing like a good comedy to set the day off right. It needs a name. Hmmmmm...."Dumb and Dumber" has already been taken....Frick and Frack, the Bobsy Twins maybe? Stupid is as Stupid does? Maybe a sequel to the Twilight Zone? Guliani, wiped the floor with Paul. As will every other GOP candidate.

Love the pic. They should do a movie together. Nothing like a good comedy to set the day off right.

It needs a name. Hmmmmm….”Dumb and Dumber” has already been taken….Frick and Frack, the Bobsy Twins maybe?

Stupid is as Stupid does? Maybe a sequel to the Twilight Zone?

]]> By: John Cunningham https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28420 John Cunningham Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:41:10 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28420 Back when the earth was flat maybe, but Paul is clueless on global issues. He opens his mouth and one has to ask oneself, wonder what planet he's talking about. Back when the earth was flat maybe, but Paul is clueless on global issues. He opens his mouth and one has to ask oneself, wonder what planet he’s talking about.

]]> By: John in PA https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28439 John in PA Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:18:15 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28439 Conservatives and libertarians get along quite well. The principles of freedom are the same for each. Any rational person can understand the importance for victory in Iraq et al. (Liberals are not generally rational - they decide with feelings rather than fact) The extreme of any one of the slants will not succeed. Balance is important. Ron Paul seems to be one libertarian who does not know where to draw the line. Individual freedoms in a society is important but an anything-goes society means people's individual freedoms will be trounced by others in that society. The balance is individual freedoms in each ones personal space, but at the society level there needs to be constraints to reign in the selfcentered idiots that always exist no matter where you go. I think Ron Paul is a hiding a bitterness toward society that clouds his objectiveness. He is a gonner because of this - his bitterness will show through. Check his body language next time. He is hiding his true intentions in my opinion. Conservatives and libertarians get along quite well. The principles of freedom are the same for each. Any rational person can understand the importance for victory in Iraq et al. (Liberals are not generally rational - they decide with feelings rather than fact)

The extreme of any one of the slants will not succeed. Balance is important.

Ron Paul seems to be one libertarian who does not know where to draw the line. Individual freedoms in a society is important but an anything-goes society means people’s individual freedoms will be trounced by others in that society. The balance is individual freedoms in each ones personal space, but at the society level there needs to be constraints to reign in the selfcentered idiots that always exist no matter where you go.

I think Ron Paul is a hiding a bitterness toward society that clouds his objectiveness. He is a gonner because of this - his bitterness will show through. Check his body language next time. He is hiding his true intentions in my opinion.

]]> By: A. S. Wise- VA https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28466 A. S. Wise- VA Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:27:49 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28466 Well at least Neal Boortz is sane. Well at least Neal Boortz is sane.

]]> By: Marc https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28484 Marc Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:04:45 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28484 Ronnie is a nut job and he needs to donate his campaign chest to I don't know, Special Ops Warrior Foundation, Wounded Warrior Project, Michael Yon, Pat, Bill Roggio, and and any other pro-American non-surrender monkey activity! Just a thought. Ronnie is a nut job and he needs to donate his campaign chest to I don’t know, Special Ops Warrior Foundation, Wounded Warrior Project, Michael Yon, Pat, Bill Roggio, and and any other pro-American non-surrender monkey activity!

Just a thought.

]]> By: Frank from Ohio https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28522 Frank from Ohio Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:46:42 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28522 Of course Ron Paul doesn't speak for all libertarians, but I'm at least thankful that Randy Barnett speaks for far fewer still. Of course Ron Paul doesn’t speak for all libertarians, but I’m at least thankful that Randy Barnett speaks for far fewer still.

]]> By: The Presidential Candidates https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28615 The Presidential Candidates Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:53:08 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28615 are you insane? many americans would resist the label because of it being attached to being against the war in iraq? that would bring many MORE americans towards the label of anything! the war in iraq is such a complete and obvious failure that the only people who are still supporting it are the neanderthal bible beater types. oh and some disgusting politicians pandering to those types (most of the republican candidates) Ron Paul is someone who stands up for REAL libertarian values which include not getting into war unless absolutely necessary. Wars by their very nature take away the rights of the citizen, something all libertarians would be wary of. are you insane? many americans would resist the label because of it being attached to being against the war in iraq? that would bring many MORE americans towards the label of anything!

the war in iraq is such a complete and obvious failure that the only people who are still supporting it are the neanderthal bible beater types. oh and some disgusting politicians pandering to those types (most of the republican candidates)

Ron Paul is someone who stands up for REAL libertarian values which include not getting into war unless absolutely necessary. Wars by their very nature take away the rights of the citizen, something all libertarians would be wary of.

]]> By: TJ https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28782 TJ Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:22:27 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/07/18/libertarians-and-the-war-ron-paul-doesnt-speak-for-all-of-us/#comment-28782 this is one neanderthal bible beater who thinks most of the people against the war have no idea what this war is about, who started it and when, or why we took the fight to iraq. they are cowards who think we should do our best to understand our enemies and do what ever they wish for us to do. dont tell me the war has been prosecuted poorly, your reason for being against this war continually changes like the time on a clock. this war is going right according to schedule, having timelines in a war against guerillas who don't abide by any geneva conventions and who holds hostage ANYONE who doesnt see things in their way, is useless and unprecedented. The goal of this war is to take the fight to the enemy, establish a stable democracy anda growth oriented economy, and have a foothold in a region with a history of instability and religious extremism. On these principles I have been and am for this war. If bush lied to us about WMD's as a means to get us to pursue these objectives, then he cant be all that stupid can he? again I would rather fight this inevitable war that started in the 7th century in arabia, on the enmies soil rather than our own. Liberals change their reasoning and stories as much as Islam. If we apologize for our "policies" of the past, then muslims will ask for more and complain about the crusades and this or that until we are all one big happy family under the tent of Islam. Give them meter they take a mile. Take away their safe havens and they have to work harder to find different ones. The history of Islam has shown, when overwhelming force is used against them, they have to retreat in order to regroup and attack again later. And they will. "Lo, fight them until all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam." (Surah 8:39) this is their creed and all the PC religion of peace crap is thrown out the window by the quran, sunnah, history and our current circumstances. :mad: this is one neanderthal bible beater who thinks most of the people against the war have no idea what this war is about, who started it and when, or why we took the fight to iraq. they are cowards who think we should do our best to understand our enemies and do what ever they wish for us to do.

dont tell me the war has been prosecuted poorly, your reason for being against this war continually changes like the time on a clock. this war is going right according to schedule, having timelines in a war against guerillas who don’t abide by any geneva conventions and who holds hostage ANYONE who doesnt see things in their way, is useless and unprecedented.

The goal of this war is to take the fight to the enemy, establish a stable democracy anda growth oriented economy, and have a foothold in a region with a history of instability and religious extremism. On these principles I have been and am for this war. If bush lied to us about WMD’s as a means to get us to pursue these objectives, then he cant be all that stupid can he?

again I would rather fight this inevitable war that started in the 7th century in arabia, on the enmies soil rather than our own. Liberals change their reasoning and stories as much as Islam. If we apologize for our “policies” of the past, then muslims will ask for more and complain about the crusades and this or that until we are all one big happy family under the tent of Islam. Give them meter they take a mile. Take away their safe havens and they have to work harder to find different ones. The history of Islam has shown, when overwhelming force is used against them, they have to retreat in order to regroup and attack again later. And they will.

“Lo, fight them until all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.” (Surah 8:39)

this is their creed and all the PC religion of peace crap is thrown out the window by the quran, sunnah, history and our current circumstances. :mad:

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