Obama Pretends To Be A Man
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Wednesday that he would possibly send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists, an attempt to show strength when his chief rival has described his foreign policy skills as naive.
The Illinois senator warned Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf that he must do more to shut down terrorist operations in his country and evict foreign fighters under an Obama presidency, or Pakistan will risk a U.S. troop invasion and losing hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid.
“Let me make this clear,” Obama said in a speech prepared for delivery at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. “There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”
The excerpts were provided by the Obama campaign in advance of the speech.
Obama’s speech comes the week after his rivalry with New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton erupted into a public fight over their diplomatic intentions.
Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of rogue states like Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions, an idea that Clinton criticized as irresponsible and naive. Obama responded by using the same words to describe Clinton’s vote to authorize the Iraq war and called her “Bush-Cheney lite.”
(AP)
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Sure Obama. Invade Pakistan. Pakistan has a population 0f 160 million while Iraq has a population of 27 million. Yes at some point we may have to invade the Western part of Pakistan. However now is not the time since it could cause the toppling of the Musharraf government, which then means we would have to occupy the whole country which would make Iraq look like a picnic. Believe me if Obama or a Dem is elected President they will cut & run from Iraq, the Middle East & South East Asia.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:33 amIdiot! Anyone who votes for this shady real estate dealing, Farrakhan acolyte should take their ballot and wipe the brown balloon knot dead center in their crevice and then throw it in the trash!
Musharraf has made a power sharing deal with Benazir Bhutto, and that is the key for stability in Pakistan. That positions him and the armed forces to move in the frontier regions. Pakistan has quite the capable armed forces, and we just gave them some more F-16s recently so hopefully with this agreement they will unleash the dogs of war in the tribal belt.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:46 amBULL SH~T,
he will do what when Musharraf says hell no????
go to war???
0-bama is the definition of smacktard
August 1st, 2007 at 7:58 amThis guy isnt very intelligent, I can tell..He cant even play off bullshit right. One minute says he will negotiate with other governments we disagree with, he is against winning the Iraq war, Hillary calls him naive and now he would invade Pakistan? wtf people! dont vote for this guy
August 1st, 2007 at 8:02 amand if this gets to this point, I call for an armed revolution
August 1st, 2007 at 8:11 amSomeone ought to explain to the MSM that compared to Obama, a military recruit fresh out of Basic, has more leadership capacity than this rookie dufous has.
Trying to be a man indeed. This guy is dumber than a box of rocks. Anyone that votes for him should go back and read Marc’s first paragraph.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:13 amIf not Obama then who? Clinton is nothing but a debater, Rudy is still claiming to be a hero of 9/11 when all he did was tour the area. We don’t have any strong leadership that can handle the global war on terrorism alone. We need to reach out to other country and hopefully create a legit Coalition of the willing
August 1st, 2007 at 8:37 amDid anybody catch the enthusiastic response Joe Biden got for passionately promising intervention in the Sudan during one of the Democratic debates? Oh, when and he said we can and should “fix” that situation?! I think Mr. Obama is trying for that same response, and both of them are using locations that are not actually part of the present political debate for their proposed military interventions, precisely because their audiences will not consider their comments seriously.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:42 amAh, yes … American socialist/democrat diplomacy. Brilliance … Sheer brilliance.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:05 amObama, just another pussie politician who had a domineering mother who crushed his manhood early on and taught him to be a nice little boy so he would not hurt anyone’s feelings.
Politicians who will say what ever they think they need to say to score political points to get elected make me want to eat my own vomit.
The presidency is for real men who stand for something. That’s what leaders are. Look at our troops. They are all leaders.
Real men stand up for what they believe in no matter what. Look at McCain, his numbers are in the toilet currently because he stands on his principles no matter what. If he can hang on until things really calm down on the ground in Iraq (only a few months away) he will see his support and numbers go back up. He will have a chance then.
Joe Lieberman even though he is still a democrat (hopefully not for much longer) had his party turn its back on him in the last election.
He stood up for what he believed in and still kicked the ass of the democrat that took his place on the ticket.
Senator Lieberman has more class in his pinky finger than the entire democratic party.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:16 amI don’t get it at all… obmama and others….do not want to fight the war we are already in….but somehow is OK to fight the same war in a different country as long as that country is not Iraq.
Terrorist and al-Qaida are the same…no matter what country we are fighting them in.
If we pull out of Iraq to fight in Pakistan…they will just follow us there….and set up training camps in iraq…to ‘re-supply’ fighters for a war in Pakistan…just like they did in afganistan.
This is not rocket science…but obmama and others let their BS politics get in the way of everything they think or say.
Disgraceful.
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“Let me make this clear,” Obama said in a speech prepared for delivery at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. “There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”
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This guy refuses to understand that the ‘terrorists’ in Iraq TODAY…are the same as in Pakistan…or anywere else in the world.
Peace,
August 1st, 2007 at 9:25 amDan
Obama wants to refer to a missed oportunity to take out AQ leadership in 2005? If he wants to be a man with cahones, he should bring up the three opportunities thrown away by Clinton Inc the LAST time she ran the oval office.
The only qualification Hillary has for being is the White House is she already had the office ass…. have you seen that huge thing?!?! I would hate to see her in another awimsuit picture.. MEGA HURL!!!
August 1st, 2007 at 9:26 amBrad W gross. I can feel my lunch rising…. hahah.
This is just another example of how Democrats are oversimplifying global problems. This is a half-assed attempt at a solution that overlooks the stability of our ALLY and changes focus from the war we’re fighting now to a hypothetical battle in which we invade Pakistan. Obama’s statement proves what a moron this guy is when it comes to foreign policy. Let’s just ignore the last 200 years and start a series of quick-fix ideas that amount to jack shit.
If this fuckbag gets elected I’m resigning.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:04 am“…possibly send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists…”
It’s a possibility that I may vote for him.
What’s next? Oprah’s Commando Club with Barack Obama. Two O’s make an O O.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:23 amIt scares me to think this man might be elected President of the United States. What scares me more is that HE actually believes he has the ability to run this country.
August 1st, 2007 at 10:42 amFor one thing, hearing a liberal say “I’m gonna fight” is a bit like me saying “I’m gonna snap-roll the space shuttle.”
August 1st, 2007 at 11:00 amObmama - “There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”
This statement dictates Obama does not understand the landscape of the matter and makes him dangerous for the following reasons;
1) Pakistan is a nation that is deeply saturated in the Muslim religion. Many of these Muslims are not moderate Muslim either. Moderate as well as radical Muslims would immediately reject to an American military strike within their borders to the point where the people may try to overthrow their government. In that event, you would have radical Islam heading up Pakistan.
Let’s put this into perspective. Pakistan is a nation of 160 million Muslims with nuclear weapons technology. This could be more dangerous than Iran’s Ahmedemijad after he secures nuclear capability.
2) Pakistan under Mushariff has captured or killed more insurgents than any other U.S. ally (by a wide margin) since 9/11. You may recall the president’s quote, “Your are either with us or with the terrorists”. Pakistan’s actions against terrorism are a direct result of post 9/11 U.S. policy and works under the hand shake agreement that we will not put a large # of troops in Pakistan in exchange for Pakistan to combat terrorism.
Should the U.S. under President Obama disregard this agreement & take military action inside Pakistan we would likely loose this established agreement. Once this agreement is abolished, Mushariff’s reasons to stick his neck out on the line for the U.S. suddenly erode and he would likely take a more self protective position towards terrorism.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:05 amObambi knows when he says this that he is lying. With a democratic Congress, we are supposed to believe that a liberal POTUS is going to war against nuclear armed Pakistan when even evil Bushitler with a GOP Congress knew that was a mistake?!!!
Right…
libs always talk tough knowing that the “other war” they promise to fight will never even get started.
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August 1st, 2007 at 3:07 pmYou all know that no matter what foreign policy Obama were to lay out, you would dismiss it as either 1) A good policy that he is only half-heartedly proposing to gain office or 2) A bad policy that only a liberal would be stupid enough to think up.
As far as the other democrat contenders, ie. Hillary, just find some out of context statement that supposedly contradicts the policy proposal. What a joke
August 1st, 2007 at 4:20 pmMess: I borrowed a couple of your ideas to explain to poor Eric here what’s wrong with Obama’s idea. Perhaps he didn’t read your post?
1) Pakistan is a nation that is deeply saturated in the Muslim religion. Many of these Muslims are not moderate Muslim either. Moderate as well as radical Muslims would immediately [react] to an American military strike within their borders to the point where the people may try to overthrow their government. In that event, you would have radical Islam heading up Pakistan.
Exactly right. And we would then have a pro-Jihadi government with nuclear weapons and Musharaff would be dead.
2 Pakistan under Mushariff has captured or killed more insurgents than any other U.S. ally (by a wide margin) since 9/11. You may recall the president’s quote, “Your are either with us or with the terrorists”. Pakistan’s actions against terrorism are a direct result of post 9/11 U.S. policy and works under the hand shake agreement that we will not put a large # of troops in Pakistan in exchange for Pakistan to combat terrorism.
Think President Obama could secure a battlefield as large as Pakistan with its 160 million Muslims all pissed off and united because we attacked their country? Don’t think so.
Mr Obama’s rhetoric might have played well back in the days when he was a state senator, but not when it comes to winning the GWOT. And he is dead wrong on his idea of invading Pakistan.
Musharaff is a key ally on the GWOT. And whatever intel he is providing the US is a helluva lot more than we would get from a Taliban or MMA led government.
We cannot afford to be fighting Pakistan, Iran and Syria all at the same time. And who’s to say that we do not already have operatives inside Pakistan hunting for OBL & company. Obama is not privy to our intel. So at best he’s just talking out of his ass.
Besides the military is doing just fine in Afghanistan and Iraq. They do not need generalisimo Obama’s help at the moment.
August 1st, 2007 at 5:03 pmHis own colleagues in the dem primary race have ridiculed him for his “idea,” enough said. Oh, and as we speak, Musharif has been in discussions with Bhutto (oppo leader) to “power share” so they can team up against the wahabists/taliban/islamofacists in Pakistan who are trying to assert control. Also, we’ve seen what a dem admin thinks is OK–to wit, Taliban setting up shop in Afghanistan in 1990’s with nary a peep from the Clintons. Dem foreign policy: ignore the problems, then when they blow up, send the FBI to investigate and the US attorney to prosecute. That’ll show ‘em. And then to drudge up some 2005 meeting that should have been bombed–oh, armchair quarterbacks are always right, aren’t they?
August 1st, 2007 at 5:43 pmNone of the Dims has a clue. Barry is just the least experienced asshat of the disgusting gaggle herded there at the Dimocrat funny farm.
August 1st, 2007 at 8:20 pm