U.N. Humiliated As Iran Announces 1,000 More Centrifuges Than U.N. Reported
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran’s president claimed Sunday that his country is now running 3,000 centrifuges to enrich uranium for its controversial nuclear program—the final achievement in its centrifuge ambitions.
The claim contradicted a critical report by the U.N. nuclear watchdog on Thursday that put the number much lower—at close to 2,000. The report by the International Atomic Energy Agency said enrichment had slowed and Iran was cooperating with its nuclear probe, which could fend off calls for a third round of sanctions.
“The West thought the Iranian nation would give in after just a resolution, but now we have taken another step in the nuclear progress and launched more than 3,000 centrifuge machines, installing a new cascade every week,” Ahmadinejad gloated to a group of students in a major speech carried by the state television Web site.
In the latest UN report, drawn up by IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei, the organization put the number of centrifuges enriching uranium in Natanz at close to 2,000 with another 650 being tested.
The 2,000 figure is an increase of a few hundred of the machines over May, when the IAEA last reported on Iran. Still the rate of expansion is much slower than a few months ago, when the country was assembling close to 200 centrifuges every two weeks.
“The recent report by the U.N. nuclear watchdog agrees with Iran’s approach and the dispute over Iran’s nuclear case has ended,” Ahmadinejad said. The latest IAEA report noted an increased willingness by the Iranians to answer questions after years of stonewalling.
The U.N, Security Council has so far passed two sets of sanctions targeting Iranian individuals and businesses involved in the country’s nuclear and missile programs. The resolutions also ordered countries to stop supplying Iran with materials and technology for these programs.
The latest announcement could spur renewed calls for a third set of sanctions.
U.N. officials have suggested that Iran had slowed its program and increased its cooperation with the agency investigators to avert new sanctions.
Iran’s ultimate stated goal for the Natanz facility, the only site now open to full IAEA monitoring, is to run 54,000 centrifuges—enough for dozens of nuclear weapons a year.
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They claimed 3,000 centrifuges 5 months ago, I was kind of suspicious about the 2000 number the other day.
September 2nd, 2007 at 9:34 amDo we need any more proof the UN is worthless. The US should dismantle it and replace it with a solely humanitarian entity with no other responsibility.
September 2nd, 2007 at 9:37 amwhat a shock!
September 2nd, 2007 at 9:45 amI neither trust Ahmadinejad nor the UN. One is clearly our enemy, the other is a passive aggressive conglomeration of nations that that ultimately depend upon the U.S. for one thing or another but still try to push us around just to make themselves feel bigger. Why do we voluntarily take part in this any longer? How does it benefit us?
September 2nd, 2007 at 10:02 amTough week for South Korea. First the SK government is hussled by the Taliban and now the SK leader of the UN is hussled by Iran. No face ?!?!
September 2nd, 2007 at 10:57 amJudas: The UN is also the enemy. Let’s not sugarcoat anything - those bunch of lollipop-sucking bitch ass fucksticks will do anything if it doesn’t appear to benefit the USA in any way, or even if it works against us. All this WHILE they leech off the security of our land and our money.
September 2nd, 2007 at 11:31 amDon’t agree with alot of your spin, but highly respectful of your policy of posting..
“if you can’t handle using your real email address…etc.”
Thanks for having the balls to have a public site like this.I don’t agree with your stance on the war, but it is also no where near as simple as more extreme liberals want it to be. At this point in time we “own” the war. No easy solution.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:35 pmOnce again…props for a well put together site. I had an entirely different POV of it until I saw your terms of use…
go dog go!
Hopefully this conflict will not be resolved by ground troops, but by American or Israeli ICBMs and the dissemination of the UN. It’s quick, cheap and destroy only the Muj. Unfortunately there is still Russia, China and North Korea to deal with.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmWhat are the chances that Iran is lying about the number of functional centrifuges?
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:24 pmis this the same UN(usless nations) that screwed up the iraq WMD checks with “albirday” as the chief investigator??
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:47 pmThe IAEA is an apologist agency for Islamofacist causes. Completely useless to anyone but a fellow Dhimi.
September 2nd, 2007 at 5:31 pmGreetings:
Are there more photos like the one you included, Pat? Is this from Iran?
Note roof…this does not appear to be an underground structure. It could be a steel structure built underground but then…why the windows?
Dan, if the IAEA gets pictures like this out into public view they are not useless. I can see SEALs planning ops based on this intel as you type.
Sometimes you should study your enemy with the same intensity you study your weapons. Anger is a weapon one gives to one’s enemies and ignorance is the best armor defeating round.
Tim Roesch
September 2nd, 2007 at 6:35 pmCommand Private Major
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I think it’s time to turn Iran’s ASS TO GLASS. I DO NOT want to wait until they hit us. I am a true believer in being proactive. Reactive means it’s too late. 9/11 was more than enough for me, I think about that loss everyday and certainly do not want another.
September 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 pmT Roach:
“Dan, if the IAEA gets pictures like this out into public view they are not useless. I can see SEALs planning ops based on this intel as you type.”
No you couldn’t. You aren’t privy to the kind of intel that SOF have.
“Sometimes you should study your enemy with the same intensity you study your weapons. Anger is a weapon one gives to one’s enemies and ignorance is the best armor defeating round.”
Ah isn’t that nice. Tell you what: Move to Jihadistan and tell that one to the jihadis. They’ll give you one chance to convert to Islam and then they’ll slaughter you like a pig…just because you are an American.
September 2nd, 2007 at 8:03 pmGreetings:
Before I respond to Dan let me posit another question…
Are we sure that we are looking at a centrifuge for enriching uranium? Seems to me that spinning radioactive gases at high speeds would preclude the presence of the unprotected meat bag. If this represents a centrifuge maybe bad SOP will get them and make the area round about uninhabitable and make SEAL intervention moot.
Dan types…
No you couldn’t. You aren’t privy to the kind of intel that SOF have.
Ah, but Dan, I have an imagination. I am, also, an elitist intellectual and, as such, I can imagine in stereo.
If that is an above ground facility then it can be seen. Hell, below ground, the magnets necessary can be sensed.
Also, Dan, how do you know what I am and am not privy to?
So certain are you…
And if I ever move to Jihadistan you will know it. Better living through chemistry…better dying through biology.
God, we are sooooo lucky….
Tim Roesch
September 2nd, 2007 at 8:27 pmCommand Private Major
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Timmy-Roachboy:
Let’s see aren’t you the kid who is being home-schooled?
You aren’t privy to sqat. Your questions give you away.
Elitist? Maybe..
You’re completely outside the wire kid.
For your info junior, what’s in that pic isn’t close to what the Iranians have in the way of a nuclear program.
And that pic is only what they have allowed the world to see. All their facilities are at seperate locations. Some have already been moved deeper underground.
The pic is useless, just like the IAEA report. The better pics are high-res satelight imagry.
September 2nd, 2007 at 8:43 pmOne more thing Roach-boy:
“Are we sure that we are looking at a centrifuge for enriching uranium? Seems to me that spinning radioactive gases at high speeds would preclude the presence of the unprotected meat bag. If this represents a centrifuge maybe bad SOP will get them and make the area round about uninhabitable and make SEAL intervention moot.”
You’re completely ignoring Iran’s stated intentions of first use of nuclear weapons. Who cares what the pic is of. The point is already moot.
Neither the United States nor Israel is going to allow a first strike by Iran on US troops or Israel.
The decision to strike down their nuclear program has already been made. Either Israel will destroy their nuclear facilities or the US will.
You obviously don’t study Iran much. Nice attempt at circle-jerking though. It’s a good liberal head game.
September 2nd, 2007 at 9:03 pmMy question is this: Given the failure for the UN to have any impact on Iran through threatening sanctions, would it benefit the world for a new approach to be taken instead? Could they instead offer Iran a series of measures by which their nuclear enrichment programs could be monitored extensively?
I’m not talking about a biased approach akin to what the U.S. did with Iraq, but surely reasoning with Iran and implying that the nation is right to operate in such a fashion is wiser than to simply threaten trade sanctions, considering Iran has not exactly been flustered by such talk in the past.
September 2nd, 2007 at 9:08 pmPaul:
It is an interesting point that you make. If you were talking to a country who was as western-oriented as Europe is, or even Russia, your idea would make sense.
However Iran is an Islamic country, not a western one. In Islam, there is no compromising with non-Muslims. The best that a non-Muslim country can get from Iran is a deception(aka tagyiya) or hudna. Hudna is negotiating a treaty with a non-Muslim country to buy time in order to break said treaty.
Furthermore, Iran has declared a Jihad on the West. In jihad there is no compromise, only victor or vanquished.
Lastly, the Iranian government is made up of a branch of the Shia religion that believes that the only way for Muslim peace to come is by pushing the world into a world war against them. By doing so they believe that the 12th Iman ( an 8th Century holy man who disappeared), will return and usher in this era of Muslim peace.
Iran WANTS a world-wide apocolypse. They’re not interested in peace.
Finally, Iran has already stated that if and when they acquire a nuke, they will then wipe Israel off the map and strike at US targets in the Greater Mideast.
If you want insight into this issue, a good place to start is Jihadwatch.
Two of the best authors on the subject are Robert Spencer and Ibn Warraq.
September 2nd, 2007 at 9:47 pmtentpeg dude said:
“Sometimes you should study your enemy with the same intensity you study your weapons. Anger is a weapon one gives to one’s enemies and ignorance is the best armor defeating round.”
Snore…. what are you dude? Like 12 years old or what?
September 2nd, 2007 at 10:11 pmsully:
You may be right. He’s a sheltered homeschool boy. Unlike the rest of us he has no life experience and lives off of the sweat of someone else’s brow.
Must be nice to live such a sheltered life tied to one’s mother’s apron strings.
Unlike the rest of us in here, retired military, ex-military, DOD folks, who have to work for a living, raise a family, and pay our own way.
September 2nd, 2007 at 10:23 pmPat:
Iran has changed!!! I swear -
I’m sorry, but didn’t the Germans also build “Centers” for Jews before the end of WWII?
Iran builds new centre for Jews
02/09/2007 23:41 - (SA)
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_2175895,00.html
September 2nd, 2007 at 10:35 pmMan, no shit eh?
September 2nd, 2007 at 10:47 pmThe boy’s gotta get a grip on sumthin other than his wank sooner or later.
sully:
At the rate he’s going he’ll still be living with mommy well into his 40’s. One wonders why a good lib like him is not in public school since he’d fit right in. Must be too scared of the world.
September 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 pmLftBhndAgn:
More tagyiya from the Iranians. This does not match their rhetoric. Might want to ask the Christians and Zoroastrians who are currently experiencing an Iranian “pogrom” how they feel about that article…especially after having spent time in Evin prison?
September 2nd, 2007 at 11:44 pmDidn’t north korea pull the same kind of shit with clinton? Feined cooperation and then turn around and go ‘oh yeah, by the way we have nuclear weapons’. Jesus that wasn’t even that long ago either.
Oh and this is probably way late, but what the hell, i want to do a drunken flop up on the band wagon…
Tim Roesch: two things
“…It could be a steel structure built underground but then…why the windows?”
Did it ever occure to you that it might just be an office or something that has a view of the floor?
and two
“Are we sure that we are looking at a centrifuge for enriching uranium? Seems to me that spinning radioactive gases at high speeds would preclude the presence of the unprotected meat bag.”
alright, i’ve actually been around a nuclear reactor (as a matter of fact it was a pair of them), and if you shield something properly, you could have a cubscout picnic on top of the damn thing and be fine. I’m not familiar with the ambient radiation produced by a centrifuge, but i kind of doubt it’s on the same scale as a sustained, controlled (hopefully) nuclear reaction. And unless you work for a nuke powerplant, then for all you know the ammount of shielding shown in that photo is more then adequate for that guy to be dresses normally.
alright, that’s my alcohol fueled rant/entertainment for the evening. don’t forget to tip your waitress folks..
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:46 amNV Sailor:
I got no experience with reactors. I think Timmy-boy is just trying to show us what he learned at home-school today.
Seriously, the only nuke anything that I have experience with are tactical nukes…Nuff said…
You are correct on NK. And it’s a game that they continue to play. The big diff is that Iran has already shown their hand. But NK needs China’s permission to use it’s WMD.
There is no big brother in Iran’s case. All it would take is a fatwa from the Iranian religious authority to use WMD.
It’s 23:45 on the Iranian Doomsday Clock.
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:22 amHere’s the latest lunacy from Ahmedinadinnerjacket:
All over Iran they’re breathing easier: the Mad Mahdist is a Mathematician. “My maths skills show we’re safe, says Iranian leader”.
PRESIDENT Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has sought to justify his confidence the US will not attack Iran, saying the proof comes from his mathematical skills as an engineer and faith in God, the press reported today.
Mr Ahmadinejad told academics in a speech that elements inside Iran were pressing for compromise in the nuclear standoff with the West over fears the US could launch a military strike.
“In some discussions I told them ‘I am an engineer and I am examining the issue. They do not dare wage war against us and I base this on a double proof’,” he said in the speech yesterday, reported by the reformist Etemad Melli and Kargozaran newspapers.
“I tell them: ‘I am an engineer and I am a master in calculation and tabulation.
“I draw up tables. For hours, I write out different hypotheses. I reject, I reason. I reason with planning and I make a conclusion. They cannot make problems for Iran.”‘
Mr Ahmadinejad has long expressed pride in his academic prowess. He holds a PhD on transport engineering and planning from Tehran’s Science and Technology University and is the author several of scientific papers.
The deeply religious President said his second reason was: “I believe in what God says.”
“God says that those who walk in the path of righteousness will be victorious. What reason can you have for believing God will not keep this promise.”
This puke is stupid AND dellusional.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:15 amGreetings:
You guys are too much. Dan, if you are ex-military then that is a good thing. I saw too many like you.
Command Private Majors such as I had to clean up too many accidents from intellects as beer dazed as some I have seen here. Pulling back the charging handle on my weapon woke one SFC up real fast, but i digress…
Let me walk you through this only because I have a few moments to waste…
…if that is NOT a picture of an enrichment centrifuge then you have yet another example of lying by the AP that can be used…unless you slop beer all over it. Anyone interested in, oh, holding a conversation with someone who believes AP is the paragon of truth might pull this out and bring one over from the dark side.
Some of you guys are as dead as door nails. Only NV Sailor’s response was worth the bytes.
You have a point NV. You can walk around inside a nuclear power plant or a P-4 facility in street clothes if you want to but that is just plain stupid or…this is NOT a picture of an enrichment centrifuge. Having worked with ultra-centrifuges and seen one walk away from five cemented bolts and tear up a lab, I am wondering where the suspension is and where the gas inlets and outlets are. The rust stains appear odd too. Maybe someone can get a better image and figure out what that sign reads.
Or you can talk about genitals and living with your mother…
I was hoping to hear from someone who had actually seen an enrichment centrifuge. I have seen schematics and know how they work in theory. I was interested in a little conversation with someone with some experience or at least two thoughts to rub together. Sully, I have taught 12 year olds for almost twenty years and I can safely say, other than students in my classroom, few 12 year olds could read that piece you quoted, let alone understand it.
NV Sailor is obviously one with quite a few thoughts to rub together. If you can get beyond Dan’s silly, puerile rantings maybe we can have an intelligent conversation.
Intel is where you find it.
Tim Roesch
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:59 pmCommand Private Major
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