Airing Now - John Howell On De Palma And Cuban “Y’All Are Funny”

September 7th, 2007 Posted By Pat Dollard.

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Alright readers, it’s time to be PatDollard.com Bloggers. I’d like everyone whose got that special rant in them to let loose for the world. Send me yours at submit AT patdollard.com, along with a photo, and I’ll post it on the front page as the latest featured Reader Post. Today’s most excellent piece was written by John Howell.

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Comment on Pat Dollard.Com:

“I love DePalma and can’t wait to see this film. None of the criticisms against him seem to hold any water. He’s a filmmaker/journalist: he pulls together actual footage and shows it to a public that doesn’t get the whole story in Iraq. Good for him. What’s really frightening is how much violence I see in the comment boards directed towards him. THAT is great witness to the type of behavior (of many Americans) that DePalma is trying to show the world.”

Here is my response:

The problem with your thinking is that he did not use actual footage and if he did it was taken out of context.

Pat Dollard, Michael Yon, and Matt Sanchez are all credible journalist who are only sited by certain news outlets. But these three and others are the only real deal, Katie can go to the “Green Zone” for ratings, DePalma can slander the heroes of our day and call themselves the authority on the GWOT (Global War on Terror for you lefties). They don’t go on patrols, or hang out with the troops on the ground but can pass judgment on the actions and reactions that can mean life or death for a Soldier, Airman, Sailor or MARINE.

It is easy to sit back in the armchair and scream at the TV when you think that the failed play called by the football coach did not work, but put your own ass on the line and watch these very same people decide that the freedoms that they take for granted are not worth defending.

I guess the thing that really got me was Brian De Palma and Mark Cuban were trying to actually make it sound like they were trying to do their best to care for our troops. The whole left wing of the TV, movies, and news have all gotten upset when they go to a site where people, of an opinion that differs from their own, are used to being able to speak freely and vent. As long as this anger is directed to the right it tends to be alright, I mean the left is always saying in their actions that it is ok to offend the conservatives in this Great Nation of ours. But, God help the person that happens to direct that same anger toward a figure on the wrong, sorry I meant left. Actions that were unthinkable twenty years ago are now becoming the norm. Former Presidents didn’t criticize policies of the sitting President, now it is no big deal to hear from Jimmy Carter. It was unthinkable to make a movie or TV show that had a plot of assassination of the sitting President. How about a show on Comedy Central that depicts our Commander-in-Chief as a bumbling fool?

The person who came up with the saying “Hell hath no fury like a women scorned” never met a liberal. A liberal, sorry progressive, with a cause is even worse. A liberal operative with a cause is even more dangerous than a Navy Seal; at least with the Seal you know that you will die with whatever honor you still possess he will not disgrace you or your corpse. Go back to the post from y’all are funny and you will see what I mean. “He’s a filmmaker/journalist: he pulls together actual footage and shows it to a public that doesn’t get the whole story in Iraq. Good for him.” the journalist tag does not fit. Filmmaker yes, but a journalist Mr. De Palma is not. And as it turns out it was not only reported to the proper authority, it was prosecuted. Those that committed the heinous acts played out in Mr. De Palma’s film were even convicted and the minimum sentence that I found was 20 years. There are at least two of those involved that received life sentences and the main actor received a sentence of over 120 years, I don’t think he will live out his sentence, thank God.

The problem that I have with this film and no it has not even been released but Mr. De Palma has already told me what it is about, is that it turns the exception into the rule. It is very much like another film that De Palma made about another war, or police action depending on who you talk to. If you cannot figure it out the name of his own movie that he has plagiarized is “Casualties of War”. At least De Palma waited until we had left Viet Nam to make our Viet Nam era servicemen look like depraved criminals. Although the movie is based on an actual criminal act perpetrated by a member of our Armed Forces, I fear that the reality that De Palma speaks of is that of a delusional lunatic.

I read a piece that I found at patdollard.com that was originally in the New York Post that did an actual comparison of crime statistics between safe towns here in the States compared to the same stats covering our troops in Iraq. Hands down there was less crime within the ranks of our troops than there was in the proclaimed “Safest City” in America. When the troops were compared to larger cities on a per capita basis, the troops were still better behaved in a much more dangerous and chaotic lifestyle.

If De Palma wanted to do a film that was a realistic depiction of what is really going on over in Iraq he would have made a movie that showed one of two things. First, he might have used Staff Sergeant Lee from a dispatch from Michael Yon and shown the American people how one good Marine can bring stability to a region. SSgt Lee has been mentoring Iraqi Army soldiers how to lead from the front. Or maybe he would have diligently worked on a story line about the real atrocities in Iraq, The crimes that are committed by Al Quada in Iraq. It may have even given Rob Zombies remake of the classic horror movie “Holloween” a run for its money. It could be billed as a real slasher. De Palma would have to edit out most of the torture room gore just to keep an “R” rating, but at least it would be closer to honest.


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65 Responses

  1. John Cunningham

    If anyone saw O’Reilly Friday saw this Canadian HuffPo America hater that gave a telling moment when O’Reilly asked her when a movie showing the good things Americans have done in Iraq will be released. Her jaw dropped and there was the stunned look, “oh, how could you be so mean to me, Bill”. “Bill, this is all about the first amendment and freedom of expression”. “I’m a Canadian and I have to explain this to you knuckle dragging Americans these simple concepts”. It was as telling the night O’Reilly was on Letterman and O’Reilly asked Letterman if he wanted the US to win. Remember the big pause when Letterman had to “think about it”? Be interesting to see how this dePalma film and the other movies in the pipeline that try to make the US out to be the bad guys do at the box office.

    Excuse me while I brag. Friday I went downtown to pick up my ticket for the Rush Limbaugh show he’s going to do Thursday here in Philadelphia. Can’t wait.

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  3. Dan (The Infidel)

    J.C.

    I saw that same interview. She explained it all when she said “I’m Canadian”. I felt like screaming “yeah that’s what’s wrong with you fucking bitch”. Her brain has been dulled by that Canadian cold air.

    And as a Canadian, WTF does she know about our First Ammendment anyways? Since when does the US Constitution apply to foreigners anyways?

    We were looking at another member of the graduating class of Howard Zinn. Just another sugar-coated fucktard who hasn’t a clue about Duty, Honor or Country.

    And that’s the real problem with Cuban and that PMF DePalma.
    It ain’t about the Constitution…something that the Canadian bitch knows nothing about. It IS about Duty, Honor, and Country…that selflessness that Cuban and De Palma know nothing about.

  4. Laura Parrish

    Note to anyone who thinks Hollywood has the answers, YOU’RE STUPID!!. Okay then, now on to what really matters. Brian De Palma has a film coming out called “Redacted”. It’s about the horrible events that happened when a young Iraqi girl and her family were murdered by a small group of American soldiers. Those soldiers have now been tried and sentenced to prison for the rest of their lives. What they did was monstrous. What they did was evil. They do not represent the other 99.8% of American troops who put their lives and freedom to risk while trying to help the country of Iraq survive the onslaught of radical Islam. And PLEASE don’t even try to say they wouldv’e been fine if Saddam were still in power. Grow up. But what Brian De Palma has done is to make a movie focused on ONLY this incident. Nothing about the building of schools or homes, or building of security so that young Iraqi children can play soccer in the streets without being blown up or having their parents taken to Saddam torture chambers to have their bodies shredded feet first. Brian De Palma has an agenda, “to get the US out of Iraq”….so fat cat liberal film makers can use their outrageous cash to not only bash and put in danger our true hero soldiers, they then win bullshit awards from Euro-trash film festivals!! Yet let’s be clear about something, had these same “film festivals” been around during the Nazi reign of WWII, the film people involved would’ve been arrested and shot. No questions asked. Sadly now, the Brian De Palmas of the Hollywood world don’t understand why or how they have freedom, they just engorge it without conscience. We as Americans need to stop supporting the Hollywood, Cannes, Venice trash film makers and start supporting our troops. God! Where are the movies about the horrors of radical islam?? These so called brave film makers have only one agenda, HATE GEORGE BUSH AND ANYTHING HE TOUCHES…which includes our military. They don’t have the GUTS to make a film called “Infidal”…let’s see that one come out.

  5. alexa kim

    As I have begun to tell everyone I speak to who complains about how hateful and treasonous Hollywood and the richest of the rich have become towards the very country that has been so very, very good to them: :idea: Stop Going To The Movies. Just stop making them even richer. They are using our own money against Our Soldiers.
    Pat, I’m saving my money to see “Young Americans” but that’s it. If My Soldiers can make the very real and deep sacrifices that they do, I can certainly resist seeing yet another piece of crap they call “film” out of Hollywood.
    Remember when the Rest of America decided to make its own B-grade and road house movies and gave Hollywood the big giant middle finger? When can we start doing that again? Is now too soon?
    Everyone, read a book, play XBox, do anything but spend a dime on anything Hollywood produces. Please don’t complain to me about the “innocent” movie theatres being hurt. If I have to pick who to feel loyal to first, the theatres or My Soldiers, guess who I’ll pick.
    DePalma, Mark Cuban (stop going to Dallas Maverick games), Moore, all of them can be reminded that without us, they are nothing.
    :idea: Let me repeat that: WITHOUT US, HOLLYWOOD IS NOTHING.
    Savor that reality.
    It will save much more than the cash in your pocket.
    Plus, it will stop the money flowing, in buckets, into the coffers of You Know Who.
    I challenge every proud American who cares to show respect and support to Our Extraordinary Soldiers to do something very easy and very simple: don’t go to the movies. Don’t rent or buy any, either. Just don’t. Until Hollywood behaves itself. Until A Soldier You Know decides he feels good about Hollywood and wants to go to the movies again.
    Go enjoy a conversation with someone you are grateful is safer as a result of Our Soldiers’ sacrifices.
    And enjoy the chance to do something, really, small but tangible, that will make Our Soldiers proud of us.
    (Remember: if you think you can’t do it, then you’re right. Then go justify yourself to a Soldier’s face.)
    Thank you Pat. Don’t ever let up, don’t ever stop.

  6. Laura (no longer liberal)

    Hi Dan,
    I didn’t see the clip with the offending Canadian, so I can’t comment directly. But not all of us Canadians are morons. Our guys are without question pulling their weight in Afghanistan and many, many Canadians support the NATO effort there as well as the US/coalition in Iraq. Like the US, the LLL gets all the press and not much else. That doesn’t mean that there aren’t sane people up here.

  7. Dan (The Infidel)

    alexa kim:

    Hear Hear!!! That’s right. I don’ buy Hollywood movies, or DVD’s unless the movie is REAL good. I’ve been to one movie in 20 years. And bought two movies. The Passion and the Greatest Raid.

    Get with the program people. Don’t waste your money on Hollywood shit. Don’t buy their DVD’s, books, or go to their movies.

    The exceptions are rare. Patronize the kinds of movies that I mentioned above. Flip the bird to the rest of them…

  8. France the retour

    I still love :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_the_Paradise

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blow_Out

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarface_%281983_film%29

    well, I am not fond of war movies, except when they are treat by russian film directors ;

    where aesthetic, feelings, phylosophy become an universal dimension

  9. sully

    nice read from Howell… DePalma/Cuban suck.

    “where aesthetic, feelings, phylosophy become an universal dimension”

    oh fer chrissakes

  10. France the retour

    in my humble opinin :oops:

    I don’t think the effect of Venice will be followed by a success story :

    http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3246,36-950191@51-948942,0.html

    none would think that this is an objective report

    well, sometimes I might have a doubt (cf bd lately) :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

  11. Laura Parrish

    Alexa, I absolutely agree….read a book, do something different. Today I saw something that reminded me of how lucky and fortunate we as Americans are. On the history channel they’ve been having shows about 9/11 and the horror that unfolded. Hard to watch yet I believe it should be shown every year to our children in school. After about 3 hours another show came on that dealt with the 9/11 conspirousy theory idiots. God Bless Popular Mechanics! Anyway, my point is this…after watching the destruction and tragedy of 9/11 over and over, I switched the channel to TLC and stumbled upon a series of shows about families with 12 or more children and how they managed to make it. It made me realize how blessed our country is. It was hilarious watching a family of 13 kids go to Disney Land for the first time. Our soldiers gave them that gift. The gift of freedom. I looked at all the young faces in these shows and thought…”kids, you have angels disguised as soldiers who are fighting a battle like no other so that you’ll never have to”…my love and support to all our soldiers. Hollywood, you are on notice…

  12. Bobby Lane

    Someone who is giving Michale Yon,Bill Roggio and Pat Dollard air time is Dennis Miller.The man has the best
    show on radio,a cut above the rest,make that far above
    the rest…

  13. Dan (The Infidel)

    I second the kudos on Dennis Miller. He may have sucked on MNF. But he sure has found his niche. He gets better everytime that he’s on.

  14. mickmo

    Simply put, THE GUY HAS NEVER BEEN TO IRAQ, AND REFUSES TO GO TO IRAQ. HOW IS HE A JOURNALIST AND HOW IS HIS DEPICTION OF THE WAR IN IRAQ REMOTELY ACCURATE. :roll:

  15. Jarhead68

    What the hell is France the Retour saying? Does anyone understand this person? Is it me or is it a language translation problem or worse, retardation of the poster?????

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  17. Korndawg

    Too bad Al-Qadea didn’t crash their planes into hollywood????? that would have solved a few problems…

  18. B.A. Hokom

    As Pat can attest to, Hollywood is full of righteous self promoting arrogant ass kissers, the tans they sport cover up the rather large brown spot they all have on their noses. To be in this club you must follow the trends spoken at private parties. Before Hollywood was focused on anti-war movies it was still on focused on the latter half of the lesbian and gay lifestyle shock system that produced such wonders as “Brokeback Mountain”. The lifestyle genre replaced the “Remake movies, cartoons into movies, movies into cartoons” genre. Michael Moore did penitrate the lifestyle whirlwind with his anti-bush 911 movie, hell they even gave him an Oscar for bringing them the next trend they had not considered. Because films usually are in developement and preproduction for a couple of years, De Palma’s trash was in the works perhaps as early as the summer or winter of 2004. I have no doubt the title “Redacted” was chosen after he learned most of his bigger lies would not pass the ratings or distribution filters. All that said, the underlying key for a successful film is controversy, controversy produces cash in Hollywood, controversy is a commodity that attracts all sides into an arguement. If you know you have 50% for and 50% against your film on a national level you will find a friend in Hollywood. These people really could care less who they hurt or put in danger, they only care about the bottom line no matter what the cost in human life. The producers are the most callus, the directors and actors are driven by attention, ego and literally self destruct, but they all want to get rich at everyone elses expense. Not many people, especially patriotic people will pay to watch De Palma’s sick movie but the same percentage of people who paid to see Mr. Moore’s movie will, if you break it down to numbers, I think Moore’s movie grossed around 160 million, with ticket prices at an average of 12 dollars roughly 12 million people went and paid to see “911″ M. Moore style. 12 million people equals about 4% of the population, a percent represented by the far left of this country who pray for failure in Iraq. Judging by the quality of the film, very bad I must say, out the door De Palma and Co. will probably have shelled out 5 to 8 million to make the film, which actually was shot in Hi-def not film. So on the books if he gets even half the audience Moore got he’s made a filthy product full of lies and inaccuracies that will turn about a 50 - 70 million dollar profit. Again, I must remind you that the profit is the most important result for these people not the love or need of the country they live in and off of, they are parisites.

  19. France the retour

    Jarhead, I am afraid, it’s you :beer: :?:

  20. Howie

    Frenchie I agree with Jarhead, it is you.

  21. Tom

    The moment where Letterman had to ¨think¨ about whether he wanted us to win was the moment for him where the emperor´s clothes disappear.

    He could not honestly say, ¨¨No. I am hoping and praying urgently that we lose and leave in disgrace. It serves us and especially Bush and his neocon allies, right¨

    That´s what he wants to say. He can´t. So he paused when asked.

    Liberals hate Bush more than they hate Al Queda. In fact, liberals mostly do not hate Al Queda at all.

    For them, their fellow Americans who are politically opposed to them are the danger. Not the adherants to a group that commits mass murder on a weekly basis against people from India, Africa, Europe, both American continents and Australia. A group that has expressed the goal of killing such curious persons as the Dalai Lama, the Pope and Justin Timberlake. A group that kills gays for…being gays. (Though watch our liberals howl about gay marriage. How about you speak up about gay mass murder huh? You can´t marry if you´re dead.) A group that crushes women´s rights, esp. and including marrying young girls off to middle aged men in other countries.

    But this does not bother liberals. No. They worry about ¨angering¨ the ¨Muslim World¨ or ¨Arab Street¨.

    Bush is Hitler!!! He waterboards!!!

    Liberals see us use waterboarding and howl.

    They hear about Saddam´s jail for children ten years of age and under and click on the next op ed by Noam Chomsky.

    Cover ears, close eyes, say nyaaa nyaaa really loudly.

    Bush is Hitler!

    We liberals are the real patriots!

    We have freedom of speech!

    George Clooney is brave!

    Our troops are cowards!

    I not only question their patriotism, I have answered my question. They are not patriotic and they hate patriotism.

    They are sexually aroused by our soldiers´deaths.

    They are scum. They really really are. And their childish tantrums and self absorbtion are courtesy of the military they so despise.

    And the funny thing is will be when Al Queda hits again, they will blame Bush and our same military for it.

  22. Dan (The Infidel)

    Jarhead:

    It’s Frenchy. She doesn’t Press 1 for English. She ain’t that smart.

  23. Jim

    “None of the criticisms against him seem to hold any water.”

    Why, because :lol: we are not from, Venice?

  24. KB Mills

    I Don’t care if Depalma uses actual footage,made up scenes,tells the truth,tells lies…that’s not the point. He is an extreme far left fanatic like so many liberals in Hollywood and he would do anything in his power to hurt his Native Land and the valiant Young defenders of it (military)to have his personal views become public policy. And, anyone that just thinks that DePalma is doing what he’s doing for the art of it and because he’s an artist, a movie producer/director, a journalist, or just wants to get the story to the public is a super, super naive fiddle faddle. DePalma wants to end the war at any cost and is willing to denigrade his country,his President,his Military to accomplish that event.Most people have heard and read about the happenings in his film, but why would anyone really want to see a graphical film about it unless they have an unnatural desire to see depravity,violence,or evil? Almost everyone with an IQ over 100 and regularly reads anything from the news media or watches cable news knows about the rapes and killing….but it was a total of less than 20 military personel out of a total of 500000 that has been to Irag at one time or another since the war began….that would be 0.00004 of the military personnel in the area. And,how many of the people that see the film will know that all of the soldiers involved have been severely punished?But,many of the people in other countries will not see the happening for the extremely small,isolated event that it was but it will be used as propaganda in the Middle East to show the “Satan USA” in action when in fact that has almost nothing to do with what the military or this country is all about!Why didn’t he make a movie about the atrocities of Sadam? Or, why not a movie about the gassing of the thousands of Kurds?How about a movie of the torture,rape,maiming,crippling of iraqi citizens by the ruling party in Iraq? The reason is simple….he is only interested in making a movie about the rotten American Imperalists. Depalms doesn’t seem to be able to see the long range,big picture and what is at stake by winning the war in Iraq and what happens if we fold our tents and leave. I wouldn’t even have minded him making the film if he would have waited another year or two,but when you have a political agenda,timing is everything.

  25. France the retour

    KB Mills,

    De Palma ’s latest movie isn’t worth of watching, many other sources are available so that one can make his/her opinion

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070730/hedges

  26. Dan (The Infidel)

    Laura(no longer Liberal):

    I’ve had the pleasure of actually working with Canadian troops during my military career…so I’m aware of what you say. My point is that the woman having the argument with O’reilley repeatedly made mention of the fact that she was Canadian, like it was an illness or something or was an excuse for her piss poor views of Americanism.

    My view on people who come from other countries and choose to live here is if they cannot assimilate and swear alegience to my flag then they should go back to whatever pest hole that they crawled out of in the first place.

    That woman that I speak of was no American. Whether she came from Canada or bumfuck Eqypt, the point is the bitch needs to go back. She’s a disgrace to good Canadians and part of the problem in this country, not part of the solution.

  27. Jim

    France the Retourd that gets an F.
    “The Nation has interviewed fifty combat veterans”, My thought is 1) thats all they could find out of 160,000 or 2) They finally got 50 to agree with them to help peddle their exaggerated point

    It smells of opinionated liberaldum

  28. alexa kim

    France, the DePalma play-station-game-pretending-to-be-a-movie isn’t worth seeing because it defames Our Troops while spreading anti-American propaganda AND happens to be free of artistic value.

    Do not go to the movies anymore. Period. Until Hollywood stars and agents and publicists and hair extensionists and paparazzo and gossip merchants and directors and producers and cocktail fetchers and toe suckers Get Back To America, we must stop enabling them to suck us dry.

    Stop buying their products. Stop supporting their lifestyles. Stop buying gossip rags and stop watching E!.

    They will only learn by doing. Doing some pocket-searching (Hollywood translation: soul-searching) will be good for them.

  29. Dan (The Infidel)

    Frenchy:

    The Nation? That’s a leftist rag. They lie their asses off on a regular basis. No one in their right fucking mind, reads that piece of shit.

    And their opinions are bullshit when it comes to the average soldier or Marine in the field. There’s millions of us veterans out here and very few of us would consider reading a publication that is only good for using as a field-expidient method of wiping one’s ass when no toilet paper can be found.

    And anyone who shares Depalma and Cuban’s opinion has no business comming here.

  30. France the retour

    to make one’s opinion, different sources must be available, I don’t pretend they are the truth but a part of it, even if it is a tiny one

    Yeah, I expected that you found the “Nation” leftist

    what do you think of this :

    http://www.voznuestra.com/PoliticalWires/_2003/_April/13

  31. Howie

    Dan(the infidel),
    You are looking at the magazine, I use this term loosely, in question from the wrong context. Just like in Iraq, Afghanistan and the rest of he world this is a good intel source. Always gotta know what the bad guy, D’Rats,is up to.

  32. Dan (The Infidel)

    Howie:

    I’m with you. All one has to do to hear the views of the Nation is to hear Keith Overbite or Katrina Van Der HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOval…. :beer:

  33. Dan (The Infidel)

    Frenchy:

    To make one’s opinion? What is that? You mean to have an opinion one needs to go to different places for news? Is that what you’re trying to say?

    I get my news from CNN, WND, Fox, Pat, Yon, Reggio, and a few other places. I know who lies and who doesn’t lie. The Nation lies. If I want truth, it ain’t hard to find. It is easier to find when one’s moral compass isn’t broken.

    You should try it sometime.

  34. France the retour

    can’t say that Fox is fair ; rather biased when it comes to EU

  35. Dan (The Infidel)

    Frenchy:

    85% of the reporters and commentators on Fox are democrats and liberals. So if liberal Democratz don’t like the EU, then maybe the the EU is the problem.

  36. France the retour

    liberal in US has not the same meaning as in EU ; here that means that a person is for free markets

  37. Howie

    Frenchie:
    It is better to sit quietly and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it!
    Liberal in America and the EU they’re all the same free markets are good if they are bad for America!!!

  38. Dan (The Infidel)

    Howie:

    Well put. Obviously French doesn’t understand US politics or US political parties.

  39. TJ (the Kafir)

    frenchie,

    you are right! liberal doesnt mean the same thing in europe. in fact liberal used to mean a fair open view the world, where all opinions are shared and equally respected, now it has come to mean leftist naziism :oops:

  40. France the retour

    Dan and howie, Liberal, as a politic party in Eu never ment what is supposed to mean in US. sigh.

    in your views, your are focusing socialist parties, TJ, is rather near, as he in fact, looking a bit sarcastic though !

    socialism, at the extremity could become a nazism

  41. Dan (The Infidel)

    Frenchy:

    We understand the dynamics in Europe and in the US. You, however do not. You are exposed to the daily socialism that is Europe. We are not. We do not want your sytsem of governence or political correctness in our country.

    Europeans are weak. Europeans are rapidly losing the culture that made them great in the firts place and are becomming easy prey for the Islamists to take advantage of.

    In the US we derive our rights from our Creator…and that fact is enshrined in our Constitution. In Europe you get your rights from government, who can take them away, as well as give them out.

    That’s what seperates us from you. If you want to be a socialist lackey, that’s your choice. But we here in America choose to be free.

  42. France the retour

    what you mean with “our Creator” ?

  43. Howie

    Frenchie,
    Sit down Shut up and keep waving that white flag of yours!
    You obviously have no clue when it comes to American History!! Declaration of Independence second paragraph 19th & 20th words “…their Creator…”

  44. MNconservative

    He means God/Jehovah/Yaweh. The Christian God, who is the one true God, gave man liberty of conscience and all of the other liberties we have as Americans. Our founding fathers realized this when they put our constitution together. They framed the Constitution based on the fact God alone was sovereign over everything and that He was the one whom our rights and freedoms came from. America was founded on the principle of self-government first and foremost. The founding fathers never thought that the government should have to care for the poor and destitute like the socialist governments of Europe do. They tought we had a moral obligation from God to help our neighbors, but if forced to by the government (say through taxes) then we would be losing our liberty of conscience. Europe doesn’t understand this because they don’t have a government that is founded on the truth of the Bible. In Europe you get your rights from the government, which is why they can take them away, but we get our rights from God. This means that they can’t be taken away by the gvernment, because the government didn’t give them in this first place. Unfortunately, the Dems seem to be trying as hard as they can to take away our God given freedoms so that they can establish a socialist society like Europe. I can only imagine what men like Washington, Madison, and Jefferson would say if they saw the sorry state of US politics today.

  45. France the retour

    thanks, MN conservative,

    yes, this is quite amazing for us, ; with our 1789 revolution, we abolished the divined establishment of our kingdom and instead of the god given right, we elaborated the universal rights for the humanhood ; still in our constitution, and I believe for ever ; most of the new democraties are referring to our human rights to create their constitution though

  46. Dan (The Infidel)

    MNconservative:

    Hear, Hear!! Well said…Frenchy is a socialist, she don’t get it. She didn’t even know who the Creator is? Now that’s a fine indication of someone who’s soul is dead.

  47. France the retour

    Dany chouchou, of couse I knew, but it is such surrealistic for us, that’s make no difference between “you” and islam :roll:

  48. Howie

    Frenchie them are fightin’ words tramp!!!!
    There is a huge diffence between Dan(the infidel) and muslims. Dan is a self proclaimed infidel. You cannot be both a muslim and an infidel at the same time.
    That would be like one of your former queens,and not the gay kind, trying to have her cake and eat it too.

  49. Howie

    Oh and by the way “Howie” is John L Howell. Check out howieshead.com if you like what you read, or you like my comments

  50. Dan (The Infidel)

    Frenchy:

    Hey sweetcakes. You don’t need to lie about it. Nice attempt though. Yes you are a socialist. Your moral equivication belies your ignorance both of Islam and Christianity. You are indeed a souless, clueless idiot.

  51. France the retour

    Howie, your site is copyright of this one, or ?

    and for John L Howell, there many, are you the country music one ? :lol:

    Danny, your anathems don’t change, yeah we had socialist governments, but my life never was socialist, I had to pay the hard price for whatever I got. I never voted for socialism, only for the lesser worst candidate among le lot ; France is not perfect, but it is the country where I accidently was born, and I defend her with my little contribution

  52. Dan (The Infidel)

    Frenchy:

    The word is anthems not anathems. Not only does your English still suck, but so does your spelling. And I stand by my assertion that you are a soul-less fool.

  53. France the retour

    anthems is a different word than anathem( which is in your vocabulary with “a” at the end of the word)

    anthems is your national song

    anathem : condamnation, excommunication

    hehe, how far did you go to school ? :lol:

  54. Dan (The Infidel)

    No. You’re thinking of anathema. Which means forbidden by societal norms. It’s no shit that having a working moral compass is forbidden by your societal norms.

    BTW condamnation is spelled condemnation.

    School you ask? At least I can speak and write English better than you. And I have nothing in common with Depalma and Cuban…On the other hand you and they are much alike.

  55. Dan (The Infidel)

    The words are anthem and anathema. I’m aware of both meanings. And you spelled condemnation wrong, schoolgirl.

  56. France the retour

    kif kif (arab) = half half :lol:

  57. Dan (The Infidel)

    Frenchy:

    Half and half…We put that in our coffee. WTF are you talking about?

  58. TEXAS LARRY

    Dan, in the past, I must admit that I have felt sorry for Frenchy :cry: . I must admit that I have been following many postings on patdollard.com where she was attempting to make a point or retort and I often find her statements quite confusing. I have chalked this up to the language barrier, but I would suggest to her that if she is not capable of communicating in a clear and concise method, that she refrain from further postings.

  59. Dan (The Infidel)

    Howdy Texas Larry:

    Good point.

  60. Dan (The Infidel)

    Thanks Texas Larry.

  61. France the retour

    Texas Larry, Your the right fellow for supporting Dan, that fortunately I can’t understand either ; I wouldn’t say that for the others :roll:

  62. France the retour

    what’s that hell ? I can’t see my posts, even awaiting moderation ;

    I have already seen that on another World press blog

  63. France the retour

    congratulations, danny you found a ear

  64. Dan (The Infidel)

    Frenchy:

    Nice cut-down comming from a surrender-monkey like yourself.
    It is you who have not found an ear here, Frenchy because you are a dimwitted, liberal, European twit.

    You really should choose another venue for your rants and take Texas Larry’s advice. You don’t belong here.

  65. France the retour

    Dan, fortunately, your not the decider :mrgreen:

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