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Perfect illustration of why we need MRAP’s. If that had been a Cougar, the vehicle would have been able to drive away with minimal damage. Fortunately, for these guys, it would appear that the VBIED was not doubly packed with multiple explosives AND the crew did not suffer any casualties. That is partly due to the fact that we have interdicted and destroyed many an IED processing centers, and destroyed many of the IED caches, and bomb-makers.
Good job. Everyone walked away…That’s how it should be.
Tell your congressmen/women to help get the MRAP into high-gear (it is already…but the red-tape needs cutting)…,
support the MRAP program, and stop fucking with that budget to make political points..,
Hoo-ah to these fine troops…
September 23rd, 2007 at 7:53 amThis is why we need MRAP’s.
September 23rd, 2007 at 7:55 amHoly ballz. Might be less costly just to lob a baseball grenade through the window.
Sure hope that there was an insurgent in that vehicle
September 23rd, 2007 at 8:11 amOkay, now. As much as I’m sitting here all safe and comfortable and undeservedly second-guessing these gents, just why did we feel it was necessary to endanger some soldiers and their Hummer over an abandoned car? I noticed several perfectly good ma deuces in the audience… I would hope that there was at least some “lessons learned” action going on when it was all said and done.
In this case, and ounce of prevention would have been worth several tons of MRAP.
September 23rd, 2007 at 8:23 amThe jobs these guys deal with are like no other. Balls of fucking steal!
September 23rd, 2007 at 8:33 amQ-mech… In a perfect world we would have just done what one shot said… Throw a grenade at it and walk away… but there’s these people called politicians that like to tell other people how to do their jobs… and if we’re not allowed to just blow the thing up and eod can’t get there fast enough… we need it off the road… what has to be done must get done…
September 23rd, 2007 at 8:50 amQ_Mech
September 23rd, 2007 at 9:06 amThese guys did a great job in a no choice situation. The suspected VBIED, abandoned car, could not be left where it sat because it could blown up as an open back Hummer went past with troops in the back.
Our troops are well trained in the proper protocols in VBIED removal.
What this really shows is that we have already killed or captured AQI’s best and brightest and they are more than likely working with their freshman team instead of the varsity.
It looks like air support was their within 20 min. (hindsight, they should have waited, I guess)
Good job getting that vehicle out of that mess and the fire extinguished.
Those guys are hard workers!
September 23rd, 2007 at 9:07 amIf you are forced to shove a suspected VBIED off the road, better to that in a Buffalo or a Cougar than an up-armored HUMMV. MRAP’s are saving lives and will save more, if more of them were in the field. HUMMV’s were not made for this kind of work. They are scout vehicles at best…nothing more.
Beyond that, using those new Krouger or how ever it’s spelled gun mounts atop these MRAP’s would also save lives.
There are some technological solutions that are worth the bucks spent. The troop’s lives come first. Whatever works to save and preserve those lives should be of the highest priority. Fuck the politics.
September 23rd, 2007 at 9:51 amHowdy gents, and like Egfrow said - you’ve got balls of steel.
Again, I fully recognize that I’m second-guessing the gents on the ground, and I feel like a real schmo for doing so. However, I’m still a little baffled by what I saw there. The road is plenty wide enough to put at least put the same distance that the camera had between a passing vehicle and the suspect vehicle. Also, if we couldn’t shoot up the vehicle (recon by fire?) out of concern for bystanders, then how is pushing it towards a bunch of houses an improvement?
I’m really not trying to give anyone a hard time here. I’m a former USMC Cpl. myself, and I understand that conditions in action are always …lets say “sub-optimal”. In order to win a war, however, one of the most important things you can do is out-think your opponent, and I didn’t see that in this video.
I’m glad no one got hurt, and I hope this incident gave some folks some good experience in how to handle this sort of thing in the future. You know what they say about experience - it’s what you get right after you actually needed it.
September 23rd, 2007 at 10:32 amI hope they put the driver back in the burning car.
September 23rd, 2007 at 11:51 amThe most important part of this video was the teamwork.
An EFP hit my son’s HUMVEE while providing convoy security last year. The convoy commander ordered the convoy to continue to roll.
My son received no first aid for his wounds. Other gun trucks in the convoy did not return to my son’s HUMVEE for at least 20 minutes. My son had good vitals when the medevac finally arrived and en route to the combat hospital. He suffered cardiac arrest 20 seconds before touchdown. He died from blood loss.
Either being in an MRAP or proper training of the other soldiers in the convoy would easily have saved his life.
Equipment and training are everything.
The IG/DOD is investigating, but I do not expect much.
September 24th, 2007 at 7:12 am