Coulter: Christians Are “Perfected Jews”

October 11th, 2007 Posted By Pat Dollard.

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Jews Demand Media Boycott of Ann Coulter

Ann tells TV interviewer she wants everyone to convert to Christianity

World Net Daily:

WASHINGTON – A Jewish Democratic group is demanding the media stop interviewing bestselling author Ann Coulter because of her insistence in a TV appearance that she would like everyone to convert to Christianity.

The National Jewish Democratic Council called on “mainstream media outlets” to stop inviting Coulter as a guest commentator and pundit and strongly condemned her comments that in a perfect world all would be Christians.

“While Ann Coulter has freedom of speech, news outlets should exercise their freedom to use better judgment,” said NJDC Executive Director Ira N. Forman. “Just as media outlets don’t invite those who believe that Martians walk the earth to frequently comment on science stories, it’s time they stop inviting Ann Coulter to comment on politics.”

Not unlike other recent media controversies, this one began when Media Matters, a pro-Democrat media lobby headed by David Brock, noted Coulter’s appearance on CNBC’s “The Big Idea” with host Donny Deutsch. Presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton recently claimed credit for helping to launch Media Matters.

In the Monday interview, Deutsch asked Coulter: “If you had your way … and your dreams, which are genuine, came true … what would this country look like?”

“It would look like New York City during the [2004] Republican National Convention.,” Coulter said. “In fact, that’s what I think heaven is going to look like.”

In her recollection of the convention, she said: “People were happy. They’re Christian. They’re tolerant. They defend America.”

“It would be better if we were all Christian?” Deutsch asked.

“Yes,” she said.

Later, Deutsch returned to the subject, saying: “[Y]ou said we should throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians.”

“Yes,” she replied again.

When pressed by Deutsch regarding whether she wanted to be like “the head of Iran” and “wipe Israel off the Earth,” Coulter stated: “No, we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say. … That’s what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal Express. You have to obey laws.”

After a commercial break, Deutsch said that “Ann said she wanted to explain her last comment,” and asked her, “So you don’t think that was offensive?”

Coulter responded: “No. I’m sorry. It is not intended to be. I don’t think you should take it that way, but that is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews. We believe the Old Testament. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to live up to all the laws. What Christians believe – this is just a statement of what the New Testament is – is that that’s why Christ came and died for our sins. Christians believe the Old Testament. You don’t believe our testament.”

Coulter later said: “We consider ourselves perfected Christians. For me to say that for you to become a Christian is to become a perfected Christian is not offensive at all.”

During the interview, Coulter also said: “I give all of these speeches at megachurches across America, and the one thing that’s really striking about it is how utterly, completely diverse they are, and completely un-self-consciously. You walk past a mixed-race couple in New York, and it’s like they have a chip on their shoulder. They’re just waiting for somebody to say something, as if anybody would.”

Below is a complete transcript of the relevant part of the interview:

DEUTSCH: Let me ask you a question. We’re going to get off strengths and weakness for a second. If you had your way, and all of your – forget that any of them –

COULTER: I like this.

DEUTSCH: – are calculated marketing teases, and your dreams, which are genuine, came true having to do with immigration, having to do with women’s – with abortion – what would this country look like?

DEUTSCH: And what did that look like?

COULTER: Happy, joyful Republicans in the greatest city in the world.

DEUTSCH: No, no, no, no, but I’m talking about this country. You don’t want to make this country – it’s not about Republicans. I’m saying, what would the fabric of this country look like? Forget that the Republicans would be running the show.

COULTER: Well, everyone would root for America, the Democratic Party would look like [Sen.] Joe Lieberman [I-CT], the Republican Party would look like [Rep.] Duncan Hunter [R-CA] –

DEUTSCH: No, no, no, I don’t want – I’m not talking about politically the landscape. What would our – would we be safer? Would people be happier? Would they be more –

COULTER: We would be a lot safer.

DEUTSCH: Would there be more tolerance? Would there be – would women be happier, would the races get along better? The Ann Coulter subscription – prescription. What – tell me what would be different in our fabric of country, because –

COULTER: Well, all of those things.

DEUTSCH: – I can give – I can give you an argument there would be more divisiveness, that there would be more hate –

COULTER: Oh, no.

DEUTSCH: – that there would be a bigger difference between the rich and the poor, a lot of other – tell me what – why this would be a better world? Let’s give you – I’m going to give you – say this is your show.

COULTER: Well, OK, take the Republican National Convention. People were happy. They’re Christian. They’re tolerant. They defend America, they –

DEUTSCH: Christian – so we should be Christian? It would be better if we were all Christian?

COULTER: Yes.

DEUTSCH: We should all be Christian?

COULTER: Yes. Would you like to come to church with me, Donny?

DEUTSCH: So I should not be a Jew, I should be a Christian, and this would be a better place?

COULTER: Well, you could be a practicing Jew, but you’re not.

DEUTSCH: I actually am. That’s not true. I really am. But – so we would be better if we were - if people – if there were no Jews, no Buddhists –

COULTER: Whenever I’m harangued by –

DEUTSCH: – in this country? You can’t believe that.

COULTER: – you know, liberals on diversity –

DEUTSCH: Here you go again.

COULTER: No, it’s true. I give all of these speeches at megachurches across America, and the one thing that’s really striking about it is how utterly, completely diverse they are, and completely unself-consciously. You walk past a mixed-race couple in New York, and it’s like they have a chip on their shoulder. They’re just waiting for somebody to say something, as if anybody would. And –

DEUTSCH: I don’t agree with that. I don’t agree with that at all. Maybe you have the chip looking at them. I see a lot of interracial couples, and I don’t see any more or less chips there either way. That’s erroneous.

COULTER: No. In fact, there was an entire “Seinfeld” episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you’re lying.

DEUTSCH: Oh, because of some “Seinfeld” episode? OK.

COULTER: But yeah, I think that’s reflective of what’s going on in the culture, but it is completely striking that at these huge megachurches – the idea that, you know, the more Christian you are, the less tolerant you would be is preposterous.

DEUTSCH: That isn’t what I said, but you said I should not – we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or –

COULTER: Yeah.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Well, it’s a lot easier. It’s kind of a fast track.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Yeah. You have to obey.

DEUTSCH: You can’t possibly believe that.

COULTER: Yes.

DEUTSCH: You can’t possibly – you’re too educated, you can’t – you’re like my friend in –

COULTER: Do you know what Christianity is? We believe your religion, but you have to obey.

DEUTSCH: No, no, no, but I mean –

COULTER: We have the fast-track program.

DEUTSCH: Why don’t I put you with the head of Iran? I mean, come on. You can’t believe that.

COULTER: The head of Iran is not a Christian.

DEUTSCH: No, but in fact, “Let’s wipe Israel” –

COULTER: I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention.

DEUTSCH: “Let’s wipe Israel off the earth.” I mean, what, no Jews?

COULTER: No, we think – we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say.

DEUTSCH: Wow, you didn’t really say that, did you?

COULTER: Yes. That is what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal Express. You have to obey laws. We know we’re all sinners –

DEUTSCH: In my old days, I would have argued – when you say something absurd like that, there’s no –

COULTER: What’s absurd?

DEUTSCH: Jews are going to be perfected. I’m going to go off and try to perfect myself –

COULTER: Well, that’s what the New Testament says.

DEUTSCH: Ann Coulter, author of “If Democrats Had Any Brains, They’d Be Republicans,” and if Ann Coulter had any brains, she would not say Jews need to be perfected. I’m offended by that personally. And we’ll have more “Big Idea” when we come back.

DEUTSCH: Welcome back to “The Big Idea.” During the break, Ann said she wanted to explain her last comment. So I’m going to give her a chance. So you don’t think that was offensive?

COULTER: No. I’m sorry. It is not intended to be. I don’t think you should take it that way, but that is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews. We believe the Old Testament. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to, you know, live up to all the laws. What Christians believe – this is just a statement of what the New Testament is – is that that’s why Christ came and died for our sins. Christians believe the Old Testament. You don’t believe our testament.

DEUTSCH: You said – your exact words were, “Jews need to be perfected.” Those are the words out of your mouth.

COULTER: No, I’m saying that’s what a Christian is.

DEUTSCH: But that’s what you said – don’t you see how hateful, how anti-Semitic –

COULTER: No!

DEUTSCH: How do you not see? You’re an educated woman. How do you not see that?

COULTER: That isn’t hateful at all.

DEUTSCH: But that’s even a scarier thought. OK –

COULTER: No, no, no, no, no. I don’t want you being offended by this. This is what Christians consider themselves, because our testament is the continuation of your testament. You know that. So we think Jews go to heaven. I mean, [Rev. Jerry] Falwell himself said that, but you have to follow laws. Ours is “Christ died for our sins.” We consider ourselves perfected Christians. For me to say that for you to become a Christian is to become a perfected Christian is not offensive at all.

DEUTSCH: We will let the audience decide then, won’t we? Ann Coulter. New book. More “Big Idea” straight ahead.


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9 Responses

  1. Dan (The Infidel)

    Now would anyone waste 5 minutes of their time listening to a loser show like “The Big Idea” with host Donny Deutsch.
    That guy makes George Soros look like Mother Theresa. He’s a schmuck.

    Nice pic of Ann BTW. Her new book has a great pic also. I’ll have to seriously consider making a jpg out of that one for my desktop.

    Incidently, I have no idea why Ann keeps talking metaphysics with Noam Chomsky types. That’s a complete waste of time and effort.

    Ann at a “Dead” concert? My, my…..

  2. Charlie Xray

    Ann is right. Judaism and Christianity are not two separate and different religions. The latter is the normal expected extension of the former. The Law (Judaism) was designed to prove man’s inability to produce righteousness based on his own ability and to point to Christ, where righteousness could be found through Him. You will find that in Galatians and Hebrews among other places in the NT. Furthermore, Scriptures tell us it will eventually happen in a period the Jews call the Kingdom and Christians call the Millennium.

    CX

  3. JTS

    More like Danny Douche.

  4. DMac

    Man, I like Ann, but she could find better ways of saying the things she says sometimes.

  5. Trevor

    I like Ann, but she says a lot of shit without really thinking about it.

    “Perfected” Christians??

    I’d be happy if all the Christians we had now were just “pretty good”.

  6. Steven D

    The way Ann came off the way she did is that she didn’t explain “perfected” very well. Her assertion is correct. Notice that Ann said “perfected”, not “perfect”.

    We Christians are not “better” Jews. Nor are we perfect. That’s not what it means at all. What “perfected” means is that mankind, because of our sinful nature, can never approach God, because He is perfect, and we are not.

    In the Old Testament, the Israelites, which we now know of as Jews, were given a set of rules by which to live. These extend far beyond the Ten Commandments, and include things such as “Don’t eat pork”, etc. Because people could not (and can not) abide by these rules, they were required to make animal sacrifices in order to atone for their sins. The purpose of these rules is to show us how mankind can’t live up to God’s standard.

    God sent Jesus Christ to be a “living sacrifice”, so that there would be atonement for the sins of the those who accept that Jesus is the Son of God, and accept that His sacrifice atones for our sins. That is why Jesus is referred to as “The Lamb”.

    “Perfected” is the theological term for this, that we are “made perfect” by Jesus having been sacrificed to atone for all of our sins.

  7. Jim

    Ann was messing with him…of all the subjects she could have talked about…this one will get media backlash and her book reconnized.

  8. Brian H

    Either she misspoke or there was transcription confusion. “to become a Christian is to become a perfected Christian” is simply incoherent. I assume she meant to say, “to become a Christian is to become a perfected Jew”.

    Try reading this: http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD173707

    In which he says, “What is happening now in all the sects and religions is that the majority of religious people worship denominations … the same can be said of the majority of Christians and Jews, who worship the names of their religions as ends in themselves”.

    Logically, this amounts to self-worship: “Only my choice is Divine, and therefore so am I.”

  9. TJ (The kafir)

    deutsch was doing what liberals do when questioning people who can not articulate certain beliefs well. there are so many ways to explain christianity, and a liberal will jump on a badly worded explanation and immediately suggest its hateful or racist which of course sells. creating controversy.

    for me Christ is the “word made flesh” therfore the Law is embodied in Him. to believe the Law and follow the law the christian must believe in Jesus and follow him. its easier to follow an example rather than written rules. jesus is the perfected jew we are not . we are merely followers.

    ann made a mistake, but liberals want her to be a racist and hateful so they can dismiss her. Its easier than trying to understand her. :roll:

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