Turkey: “The Democrats Are Harming The Future Of The United States”
Analysts say Turkey could be less restrained about defying the United States in an invasion of Kurdistan because of a congressional committee’s approval of a resolution labeling the mass killings of Armenians around the time of World War I as genocide.
“Democrats are harming the future of the United States and are encouraging anti-American sentiments,” Erdogan said. Democratic leaders in the House of Representatives support the resolution.
Erdogan said Turkey was ready to sacrifice good ties with Washington if necessary.
“Let it snap from wherever it gets thin,” Erdogan said, using a Turkish expression that means breaking ties with someone or something.
At issue in the resolution is the killing of up to 1.5 million Armenians by Ottoman Turks. Turkey denies that the deaths constituted genocide, saying the toll has been inflated, and those killed were victims of civil war and unrest that killed Muslims as well as the overwhelmingly Christian Armenians.
Turkey, a key supply route to U.S. troops in Iraq, recalled its ambassador to Washington for consultations and warned of serious repercussions if Congress passes the resolution.
“In the United States, there are several narrow-minded legislators who can’t think of their own interests and who cannot understand the importance of Turkey,” said Murat Mercan, head of the Turkish parliament’s foreign relations committee.
Turkish authorities have refused to comment on whether Turkey might shut down Incirlik air base in southern Turkey, a major cargo hub for U.S. and allied military forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. Turkey’s Mediterranean port of Iskenderun is also used to ferry goods to American troops.
The Yeni Safak newspaper, which is close to the Turkish government, said Friday that Incirlik and $15 billion worth of defense contracts, including purchase of warplanes, missile and radar systems, could be reviewed. Turkey could also prevent U.S. firms from taking part in new contracts, Yeni Safak said.
The Turkish parliament was expected to approve a government request to authorize an Iraq campaign as early as next week, after a holiday ending the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.
“We are making necessary preparations to be ready in case we decide on a cross-border operation since we don’t have patience to lose more time,” Erdogan said, adding that Turkey has lost 30 people in rebel attacks over the past two weeks.
A Turkish soldier was killed in a mine explosion on Thursday night on Mt. Gabar in southeastern Sirnak province, authorities said Friday.
Turkish army units, backed by helicopter gunships, were hunting rebels in the rugged border area.
Bahoz Erdal, a senior rebel commander, said the PKK fighters were moving further inside Turkey and taking new “positions” in the face of attacks from Turkey, pro-Kurdish Firat News Agency reported Friday. The agency is based in Belgium.
The conflict has killed tens of thousands of people since 1984.
(AP)
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Turkey: “The Democrats Are Harming The Future Of The United States”
Wow! Now if only the chickenshit Republicans in our government would call a spade a spade…and keep repeating the same mantra everyday on every media outlet, perhaps the American sheeple would wake up and throw the liberal, leftist, Stalinist traitors out of DC.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:03 amOK I need a little help here, why would soros have an interest in causing a problem with US and Turkey?
This is an obvious question since the d’rats are without a doubt paid for whores
October 12th, 2007 at 7:04 am“In the United States, there are several narrow-minded legislators who can’t think of their own interests and who cannot understand the importance of Turkey,” said Murat Mercan,
Yes Sir !!!
DEMOCRATS 
October 12th, 2007 at 7:11 amWe Call them Yellow Liberal Traitor Marxist Commi Bastards
OR
Another vivid example of the Dhimmicrat Congress at work on shit that means nothing other than ‘hopefully’ making the war harder to prosecute.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:16 amWorthless scumbags.
The Democrats are doing this intentionally to cut the supply lines for our troops in the field and end the war. Over 70% of all supplies are flown over Turkey straight to the airbases we have in Iraq. All of the wounded are flown on those same C-17’s out of Iraq on the return trip to Germany. If we lose access to Incirlik AB and access to Turkish airspace, the Democrats will have done more harm to the American presence in Iraq than Al Qaeda in Iraq could dream of doing at this point. More wounded american soldiers, trying to get back to Germany, will die because of this decision because they will have to take a longer route back. This decision means more supplies will have to come in by boat, through Kuwait and over long convoy routes that are vulnerable to IED’s and Iranian meddling. It will also hamper the deplyment of MRAP vehicles into the field. This decision will almost certainly increase the monthly death toll of American soldiers. I know all this because I’ve been to Incirlik dozens of times since 9-11, specifically to keep these supply lines open.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:27 amSteve in NC, i don’t think this has to do this has to do with a liberal agenda, this is part of a western Christian agenda. The western world including the US is simply putting the truth in the spot light, and that truth is the ottoman turks exterminated Christian Armenians. Sure the Turks are talking tough but this is all part of the process of bringing them into the western fold, joining the EU, etc. The first step in any diplomatic situation is every nation (of consequence) recognizing that it happened and then pressuring Turkey to recognize it. There is absolutely no way the turks are going to take an aggressive posture toward the US, NATO, and our allies if they still are intent upon joining the EU. Turkey has two choices economic growth and international legitimacy or isolation, the choice is pretty clear.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:27 amI too wonder if this isn’t a backdoor sneak attack to cut our
supply lines.
On the other hand I don’t regard Turkey as an ally. They
screwed up our northern offensive in the Iraq war. They have
an islamist government.
Can’t we get beyond needing them?
October 12th, 2007 at 7:41 amAt least if our supply lines have to be re-routed through
October 12th, 2007 at 7:43 amKuwait, the Brits will be guarding them! I think??
KBoomr113,
Thank you for the explaination. I was wondering WTF we had to gain by digging up this issue.
What you said makes sense, but none of the rest of it does.
F’n D’rats playing politics to hamper the troops makes my motherfucking blood boil.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:45 amhegelbot,
I can’t more but agree with you
Erdogan is playing the part of the “paper tiger”, as we say, he wants “the butter and the money of the butter” , he needs to stay in the wester camp, hehe will he go towards putin ? we know what Putin does for muslins !
or will he turn towards the mullahs, I doubt, historically, they were always concurrents !
October 12th, 2007 at 7:51 amBTW, the same law occured last year in France, the Turks shouted at us, but can’t forget to make businesses with us though
October 12th, 2007 at 7:56 am“i don’t think this has to do this has to do with a liberal agenda…..”
one of the more naive lib postings i’ve seen
October 12th, 2007 at 8:06 am“hegelbot,
I can’t more but agree with you”
“BTW, the same law occured last year in France…”
nope… there’s another one.
would the Dhimmicrats want to follow the French lead when it was run by Socialists like them? Hmmm….
October 12th, 2007 at 8:09 amI thought the democrats were against war. By pissing off turkey now, they will not only, as KBOOMR113 suggests, cut off a vital supply line for the Iraq war, they will inflame the passions of turks and give them all the incentive to head into turkey and go after the PKK. this will force the Us to defend the kurds who are a steadfast ally in the iraq war. It could very well escalate things more. why pray tell is this resolution coming now when we have pleading with turkey not to invade kurdistan?
hegelbot, dont be so naive. Timing is everything when you are at war. this is a strategic ploy to derail the war effort and the republicans need to highlight this for what it really is.
quite frankly they should highlight the potential for war with turkey to show that dems are not against war for moral but political reasons, using the iraq war as a wedge to get elected in 2008.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:12 amSo, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was last week’s holocaust-denier and George Bush is October’s holocaust denier?
October 12th, 2007 at 8:15 am“… and George Bush is October’s holocaust denier?”
You’re a fucking idiot as anybody that spends one nanosecond on your blog can see.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:22 amI remember reading somewhere that Pelosi has a large number of Armenians in her district…interpret that as you will
October 12th, 2007 at 8:25 am“Democrats are harming the future of the United States and are encouraging anti-American sentiments,”
Of couse they are. What else is new. This neither the time nor the place to play the self-righteous game. The GWOT is more important than some feel-good legislation that changes not one iota of history.
The time to condemn the Turks was back when it happened which it was soundly in the newspapers of the day.
One might want to draw an analogy to WWII here. In WWII, no one passed any legislation condemning Stalin for his mass murder of his own people. Nor was the gulags of Russia ever mentioned.
Instead we sided with Stalin in order to defeat an even bigger threat than was Stalin at the time.
We should do the same here.
What’s more important, some feel-good legislation that undermines our security interests in the region? Or defeating our real common enemy: Islamofacism?
There will be plenty of time to codemn Turkey later. Let’s finish this war first.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:34 am“would the Dhimmicrats want to follow the French lead when it was run by Socialists like them? Hmmm….”
Mr “je sais tout”,
would you call Chirac a socialist, or even Sarkozy ?
who vote the laws, and opposed a veto for Turkey to get into EU because of the deny of the armenian genocide, and much more because human right are not quite respected in Turkey.
would you say you still want to export democraty and human rights in ME with the collaboration of the very ones who deny them ?
ah yes, because it will weaken your forces in Irak, what about Israel, can’t they help you ?
October 12th, 2007 at 8:37 amThe dems are trying to embarass the Bush Admin. And the Turks are pointing out how useless the dems are. Yes, the Armenian thing happened, but to what end is opening that wound? None whatsoever. helgobot, go drink some more koolaid.
October 12th, 2007 at 9:08 amMs. professe pour le savoir tout de l’esthétique à la philosophie à la politique:
“would you call Chirac a socialist, or even Sarkozy”
yes. perhaps Sarkozy a Socialist reformer trying to get more productivity out of the French slack asses but a Socialist nonetheless.
This ‘issue’ is 90 years old and being brought to a vote in the U.S. Congress (to essentially meddle in an EU affair) to advance the Dhimmicrat agenda. Which is to make this war harder to prosecute and, to their feeble brains, hopefully lose. The Dhimmicrats in Congress don’t give a fuck whether Turkey becomes a member of the EU.
October 12th, 2007 at 9:21 amMs. professe pour le savoir tout de l’esthétique à la philosophie à la politique:
not quite , juste le bon sens
anyway, the noble ideal is only an affair of interests, thanks for the lesson
October 12th, 2007 at 9:31 am[…] Turkey: “The Democrats Are Harming The Future Of The United States” […]
October 12th, 2007 at 9:43 amI heard something last time I was in Turkey that there was a French soldier wounded in Afghanistan last year. The French put in a request to fly back through Turkish airspace to get him back quicker so he could go into surgery. The request was denied citing this specific law that the French passed last year, so the flight had to fly around turkey. According to what I heard, the soldier later died. The turks are a proud people that are incredibly nationalist. They will hurt their own interests to send us a signal in response to meddling in their past. Personally, I think our house is built of glass also in regards to some genocides in the past. no reason for us to go there. Best to criticize current atrocities.
Strategically, It’s going to be hard to replace that base at Incirlik, being a stopping point between the middle east and Europe. That base is incredibly militarily significant. The State department is going to have to call in some major favors or significantly bribe Egypt, Greece, Lebanon, or a few other countries to give us access to their territory and airspace in response to this. Or else we’re going to have a significant decline in supplies reaching our troops in the near term.
October 12th, 2007 at 9:46 amOK, this is straight from the horse’s mouth. Tom Lantos, democrat from California, is the Chairman of the US House Committee on Foreign Affairs. This is a couple excerpts from his opening statements before the vote yesterday….
“Our troops depend on a major Turkish airbase for access to the fighting fronts, and it serves as a critical part of the supply lines to those fronts. A growing majority in Congress, and I am among them, strongly oppose continued U.S. troop involvement in the civil war in Iraq, but none of us wants to see those supply lines threatened or abruptly cut.
All eight living former secretaries of state recently cautioned Congress on this matter. And I quote, “It is our view,” write former Secretaries Albright, Baker, Christopher, Eagleburger, Haig, Kissinger, Powell and Shultz, “that passage of this resolution … could endanger our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and damage efforts to promote reconciliation between Armenia and Turkey.” and then…
“Members of this committee have a sobering choice to make. We have to weigh the desire to express our solidarity with the Armenian people and to condemn this historic nightmare through the use of the word “genocide” against the risk that it could cause young men and women in the uniform of the United States armed services to pay an even heavier price than they are currently paying. ”
He voted for the resolution.
http://www.huliq.com/37614/opening-statement-by-chairman-lantos-at-markup-of-h-res-106
October 12th, 2007 at 10:00 amIf, even a bunch of stupid Turks can see this then it must be obvious.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:14 amKBoomr113
your story about the french soldier surprises me, never heard of it in our papers or on the forum of our soldiers in Afghanistan
anyway, Georgia and Ukrainia can easily replace Turkey, as these countries are knocking at the doors of NATO or UE and should easier find an agreement for
October 12th, 2007 at 10:17 am
KBoomr113, really interesting point. But, I doubt that the Dems are doing this for the reasons that you are saying. I don’t think that the Dems have a sophisticated enough understanding of the military or how it works to come up with this idea. This being said, I wouldn’t put it past them.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:23 amthe Turks will only try to money their scenario into a northern Irak trip, as actually they get prepared for it
October 12th, 2007 at 10:32 amfranchie
Yea, I can’t be sure if it is fact or just a story, but thats what I heard. However, theres a line in this article where i think it is nonspecifically referenced to…. http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/11/us.turkey.armenians/
Romania and Bulgaria are the front runners for a base to reach Afghanistan, but because Iraq is bordered by Syria, Turkey, and Iran on the north it won’t help if we lose over fly rights in Turkey.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:36 amDan’s spot on folks. And who’s that dumbfuck vigilante? Is that the return of the AMERICAN from last week?…swear to God these folks are suffering from the same Liberalis Groundhogitis - spending their lives with the heads up their asses and when they pop ‘em out the light of truth makes e’m pop ‘em back in.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:42 am“the Turks will only try to money their scenario into a northern Irak trip”
so now you imply that anger about being labeled genocidal by a key ally is only an excuse to invade northern Iraq?
October 12th, 2007 at 11:01 amSulley “one of the more naive lib postings I’ve seen”
Yes this resolution can be perceived as a means to put pressure on the US military and create tension in the Mid-East, however I believe the resolution (which I believe, was bi-partisan, and backed by an Armenian-American lobby) ultimately goes to the larger issue of creating broad diplomatic pressure on Turkey. An essential element of international law is the creation of general practices and common ethic norms among nations. As more and more nations recognize that the Ottoman Turks committed mass-murder or even genocide, Turkey will have less diplomatic ground to act out against people and nations who seemingly “attack turkishness” by stating a plain historical fact, or insisting that Turkey recognize it’s crime against humanity. This is just one step toward westernizing Turkey and convincing or coercing them away from some of their more radical policies.
Things are not always black and white, I remember for years the radical left screaming about the evils of the Taliban, but it took Neo-Cons to finally destroy or greatly reduce the Taliban, and when the neo-cons did act, the radical left came to the Taliban’s defense and cried out against imperialism.
Same thing here today if some liberals want to force the issue of human rights in Turkey, even if they have an ulterior motive, then we as conservatives ought look beyond party politics to the long term goals which might be achieved. Western nations not looking toward the long term goal is what lost us Constantinople in the first place.
The point about Turkey’s reaction to France is well taken, but the US is not France, our military ties go a bit deeper, and as I said be for Turkey is between a rock and a hard place, it has to either play ball or go home, and a really don’t think it is going to overturn its diplomatic posture toward the west over a blip on the legislative radar. Well timed? Frankly this is going to be a long war. When should have this resolution been passed? Yes we need military allies but it is equally important that those same military allies are our ideological allies. Look at Pakistan for gods sake, they are our military ally but how long is that going to last with the huge ideological right between us and them. We need our military and political ideology in Turkey.
October 12th, 2007 at 11:09 amKBoomr113
thanks for the link
it shows how the Turkishs are nice
I’ll make sure they don’t enter into EU when it comes to the vote with at least my voice against it
October 12th, 2007 at 11:09 am“so now you imply that anger about being labeled genocidal by a key ally is only an excuse to invade northern Iraq?”
tu fais l’âne pour avoir du son”
(or you sing “hi-han” to get some bread)
now that this is a good opportunity for them,
and read some foreign papers, it’ll help you
October 12th, 2007 at 11:20 amHegebot:
What’s your definition of a neo-con?
October 12th, 2007 at 11:23 amno frenchie… that would be you sounding like the ass.
October 12th, 2007 at 11:33 amfrequently.
and i no longer need to read “foreign papers” (especially Le Monde) to know where they come from politically. It’s the same place as you…. aucun sens de bon
a neo-conservative for example the G.W. Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney administration who have fashioned the preemptive strike policy, shock and awe and the Bush Doctrine, as apposed to Root Conservatives, and Goldwater conservatives. More simply it is the distinction between the conservatism of George Bush Senior and George Bush Jr.
October 12th, 2007 at 11:34 amdan - If your asking whether i am using neo-con as a derogatory term, the answer is no, its just a distinction from more a traditional concept of conservatism.
October 12th, 2007 at 11:37 amespecially Le Monde) to know where they come from politically.
yeah, but it’s not the only available paper on the net though ! (I agree, it’s the teachers’one)
and I didn’t mean french papers in particulary, every EU country or ME country has its own version of news in english
October 12th, 2007 at 11:51 amhegelbot:
I asked you to define it. If you don’t know what it means then stop dodging the question. My implication here is that you do not know what it means.
October 12th, 2007 at 11:58 amhegelbot (wtf is a hegelbot anyway/):
“Things are not always black and white”
Yes I can see you are another lover of nuance. You should consider a career in the Foreign Service. However your elaborate attempt at some sort of argument did nothing to counter my own which stated rather simply that this vote (clearly not “bipartisan”) and its timing are nothing more than an obvious attempt to disrupt a relationship that is fundamentally important to the GWOT.
This happened 90 years ago (1915) during WWI while the Ottoman empire was allied with Germany. That empire was dissolved post-war. Turkey today is a SECULAR Muslim state allied to the west.
As Republican Congressman Dan Burton (a member of that committee) said: “We’re talking about stiffing the one ally that is helping us over there. It just doesn’t make any sense.”
I agree.
October 12th, 2007 at 12:06 pmHegelbot
Your argument is weak…. Shaking up battle assets knowing that the dice can roll in any unknown direction , is not a rational concept, unless you hope or expect to lose them ….
October 12th, 2007 at 12:07 pmhegelbot
“a neo-conservative for example the G.W. Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney administration who have fashioned the preemptive strike policy, shock and awe and the Bush Doctrine, as apposed to Root Conservatives, and Goldwater conservatives. More simply it is the distinction between the conservatism of George Bush Senior and George Bush Jr.”
You still haven’t defined the word which tells me you haven’t any idea what the word means. That might be Ron Pau;’s explanation, but it is incorrect.
Before you attempt to use a word, you should at least know what it means. Otherwise you succeed only in making yourself look stupid.
October 12th, 2007 at 12:08 pmSully, as far as ass is concerned, you gave me often the impression you were acting as an ass ; if my opinion on Americans would depend on your reactions, then it’s a desesperate case
October 12th, 2007 at 12:10 pm“the G.W. Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney administration who have fashioned the preemptive strike policy, shock and awe and the Bush Doctrine”
No way this dude is a conservative… “neo” or “root”… he just plays one on patdollard.com
October 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pm“if my opinion on Americans would depend on your reactions, then it’s a desesperate case”
yeah… whateva
October 12th, 2007 at 12:21 pmyou’re really not much different than a French waiter. Giving us shitty service in the form of your whacked opinions yet still expecting a tip in the form of some sort of admiration for your charm and wit.
Time for a quick class. Let’s help our Rhue Paulite hegebot out shall we? Since he doesn’t have a clue about what the term neo-conservative means.
The term neo-conservative was coined in the late 60’s and 70’s by liberal democrats who came to the conclusion that the then-democtaic party no loner represented their views. So they adopted the label “neo-conservatives”. The prefix “neo” means new.
So, hedgebot is wrong on all counts. Neither President Bush, Cheney or anyone else he mentioned is a “new” conservative. Neither are most of us.
You might try another venue Hegebot, Rhue Paul doesn’t live here.
October 12th, 2007 at 12:44 pmHey Dan if you want a thorough definition of Neoconservative go to Kevin MacDonalds website.
October 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pmThat is unless you already know it all.
sully keep your tips,according the dollar rate you’ll need them in the coming times to buy you some prime necessary food
October 12th, 2007 at 12:51 pmAlso read todays Counterpunch.coms lead article about the hypocritical attitude of Condi Rice vis a vi Iran and “genocide”
October 12th, 2007 at 12:54 pmsully,
guess my response, polically correct though, thanks gooodness I have some watching angels
October 12th, 2007 at 12:59 pmHere is a link to the Philosopher hegel . Please note I used a lower case h in the name hegel .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegel
October 12th, 2007 at 1:10 pmTesting
October 12th, 2007 at 1:13 pmHelp
October 12th, 2007 at 1:16 pmSo a hegelbot is a program that performs a repetative function for the philosopher hegel? Sounds like the master/slave philosophy of hagel alright.
October 12th, 2007 at 1:26 pmPaul Hausser:
I already know the definition and already posted it. Nice try at an insult. You must be new here. But if you want to play some more. I’m game.
October 12th, 2007 at 1:30 pmI am on probation
October 12th, 2007 at 1:52 pmPaul Hausser
Hi Paul are you old enough to enlist yet ? It’s a good experience .
October 12th, 2007 at 2:09 pm“…this site is going to get wild starting Monday.”
We already have some wild Paulies…. the only way it might get “wild” is if the Dhimmicrat equivalent, a Kucinichite, shows up.
October 12th, 2007 at 2:11 pmCounterpunch eh?? Hmmm……….
Sulky. Read and learn
October 12th, 2007 at 2:18 pmAgain, our lovely domestic insurgents are at it again. I give them credit for creativity though, I would of never thought of purposly pissing off an ally of ours about something that happened before turky was even a country, just to impede out boys in Iraq which then would make Bush look bad so they can say “see, bushes war is bad, we cant win vote democrap” What a bunch of sorry tratiors. Fuckin lib losers are so damn misguided and just plain IGNORANT
October 12th, 2007 at 2:30 pmKeep up the good fight boys, you all are kicking ass and making me proud to be A FUCKING AMERICAN I love America and want those pussy lib tratiors can kiss my red white and blue ass
wouarf !
Sulky, eat it up, last service
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4945/sundaydinnermo0.jpg
hegel told me it’s free
October 12th, 2007 at 2:37 pmPaul Hausser:
Bring it on.
October 12th, 2007 at 2:39 pmPaul Hausser:
Read and learn? ROFLOL. That’s the advice I’d give to you.
October 12th, 2007 at 2:46 pmOn probation huh? LOL
Re: P. Hauser:
October 12th, 2007 at 2:47 pmImpotent mind, impotent threats.
Ja mein Fuhrer
October 12th, 2007 at 2:47 pmsulky,
I got a poule-au-pot ready for you
eat it up,
it’s free, hegel told me so
October 12th, 2007 at 2:51 pmfrenchy:
You channeling spirits now? Hagel’s been dead now for about 200 years. LOL
October 12th, 2007 at 3:07 pmone can say so Dan, in meinem nette Küche, hab ich einen rounde Ticsch ; manschmal er spricht ; man nur aufpasst sein sollt
October 12th, 2007 at 3:28 pmFrenchie:
“one can say so Dan” I already did. Is that nice kitchen in your nice state-subsidized apartment?
October 12th, 2007 at 3:44 pmyour confusing eastern Germany with my place :
a big 20 room mansion which takes something like 10 times the amount of energy to maintain than the average American home.
October 12th, 2007 at 4:03 pmAnalysts say Turkey could be less restrained about defying the United States in an invasion of Kurdistan because of a congressional committee’s approval of a resolution labeling the mass killings of Armenians around the time of World War I as genocide.
“Democrats are harming the future of the United States and are encouraging anti-American sentiments,” Erdogan said. Democratic leaders in the House of Representatives support the resolution.
Yes they are. They are one of our biggest internal security threats. If this country is ever in their absolute control again we can say good bye to the U.S.A. as we have known it. The only ones who cannot see the damage they are doing, or who are willingly doing it in many cases, are the lefty Demi’s themselves.
October 12th, 2007 at 4:16 pmSimilar resolutions were passed in 1975 and 1984.
WHY NOW?
October 12th, 2007 at 4:17 pmFrenchie:
“your confusing eastern Germany with my place :” Non. I am not.
“a big 20 room mansion which takes something like 10 times the amount of energy to maintain than the average American home.”
Do a lot of drugs do you frenchie?
October 12th, 2007 at 4:30 pmonly soups ! sometimes I add some cyanur, a “Marie Bénard syndrom” I guess
I think I mixed up the pots… I have to live “sofort” !
October 12th, 2007 at 4:50 pmleave
October 12th, 2007 at 4:51 pmFrenchy:
You mix German and French up well. Are you sure you are not Belgain? You sure sound like one. So you are also drinking soups made with poison? LOL. How come you aren’t dead yet?
October 12th, 2007 at 5:29 pmLOL.
oh great, we’ve managed to alienate one of our biggest allies. And this over an supposed event which took place a century ago…
October 12th, 2007 at 6:19 pmPelosi the witch better be happy counting all those armenian-american votes.
Franchie’s got that moral relativity thing fuckin with her head. Shows in every post she makes.
Guess we gotta wait till Monday to get enlightened by Fuhrer Wasser? Can’t wait….
October 12th, 2007 at 9:00 pmDan, no I am french, from a gallo origin with my father, and a Dalmatian origin from my mother (great grand-father), and I consider being taken for a Belgian as a compliment, for the french speaking Belgians have a great sense of humor (lots of derision) more than the Frenchs
How come you aren’t dead yet?
the soups are for my victims
Sulky, I don’t buy your sense of morale either, made out of volonty to undermine
seems you got all the qualities to be a little führer apprentice, no wonder why women ran away
October 13th, 2007 at 12:56 amFrenchie:
Isn’t that special?
October 13th, 2007 at 2:51 amFrenchie:
I’m getting the impression that you don’t read English very well. You are always going off on some idiotic tangent that has nothing to do with the subject matter at hand.
As to your comments on sully’s sense of morality. The difference between him and you is rather stark. You have a broken moral compass. And the typical reaction of said lost soul is to attack those whose moral compass is still functional. It is a leftist tactic straight out of Mein Kampf. You would have made an excellent Hitler Youth apprentice. You got all their attributes Frenchie.
October 13th, 2007 at 3:53 amWhat do you mean ?
October 13th, 2007 at 4:25 amfunny how you take always his defence, ach Ja, now, that I have seen the Schwarzie topic… everything is possible
October 13th, 2007 at 4:36 amand Dan, I don’t need a drawing to understand when someone is bashing me
October 13th, 2007 at 4:52 amah franchie…hey, i’ve been meaning to ask you something… which one of these lovely ladies is you?
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j97/stars5501/familyphoto.jpg
October 13th, 2007 at 5:02 amThe personal attacks are high school lame.
October 13th, 2007 at 5:39 amsulky,
I am afraid this photo is not new
a little more imagination my dear or
October 13th, 2007 at 5:43 amcreuses tes méninges chouchou, otherwise you’ll be proposed my special soup of the day
That doesn’t answer the question.
October 13th, 2007 at 5:49 amHey guys…. I’m starting to get the impression that Franchie is really trying to lose the moral equivalency , but is finding it tough to do, having lived with it all her life.
Other than that, it seems like everyone is caught in a pissing match, but sometimes pissing matches are fun ….
October 13th, 2007 at 7:09 amSOMEHOW, Tom Lantos has decided to take on the role of lead crusader against genocide….
After wielding his mighty sword against the ongoing genocide in Darfur, he realized he had only had enough ass, to wield a pocket knife, and everyone laughed.
“Woe is me” he said for how can I be the mighty crusader against genocide when all I can do is attack with my little knife….I must find an easier enemmy for my cause.
Let me see, irrelevence is of no concern, only my ego as King Crusader against genocide…I must revenge my impotent results awarded me from my Darfur campaign….
Then Tom Lantos saw it! “YES, This will take very little energy on anybody’s part to go along with me and this campaign agaist Turkey!”…and he was righy, no army, no money, no backlash… just a vote is all that was needed, a vote for an irrelevent matter that he could win with his little pocket pen knife.
“Ah, glory will be mine as the Crusader against Genocide, ….and no one will have had to lift a finger!”
Okay, and about the real genocide effecting us NOW. Well, “It’s to hard” said Tom Lantos, “I’m a democrat not a man of virtue or means, and besides, this should help me win the Nobel Peace prize.”
October 13th, 2007 at 7:29 amWe’re just trying to get her to see the light.
October 13th, 2007 at 7:32 amMaybe one day.
“We’re just trying to get her to see the light.”
chouchou, your not Platon I am afraid
October 13th, 2007 at 7:47 am“We’re just trying to get her to see the light.”
Sully this could prove to be quite difficult…as for my understanding of where her head is at, the point of penetration for light, in her case to trespass, is very narrow
October 13th, 2007 at 7:56 amFrenchie:
You need a drawing to know if you’ve been bashed? Not a very bright comment from a college girl. Very dissapointing.
October 13th, 2007 at 8:09 amjimmy,
don’t bother, too hard for you
October 13th, 2007 at 8:52 am“chouchou, your not Platon I am afraid”
Je sais chouchou. Platon est mort.
I hope that’s not where you get your phylosophy.
“…where her head is at, the point of penetration for light, in her case to trespass, is very narrow”
Hmmm… Maybe not so much. It is after all French morality that they are legislating in Cali.
October 13th, 2007 at 11:00 ameh, never ending arguties, that’s why we are not alike Americarabia ; we shall overcome… always !
October 13th, 2007 at 11:32 amFrenchie:
Amerarabia? Not lately baba. If any country is close to being “absorbed” by Islam…it’s yours. Funny, you didn’t overcome in WWI or WWII…not until America came to the rescue. So now you will overcome eh? That’s laughable. At the current rate of childbirth, you and your generation will be extinct in another generation. And France will be an Islamic country. That’s what happens when people break their moral compasses. So just keep doing what you leftists are doing…and you will hang yourselves with your own leftist petards.
PS The only reason the arguments continue is that you have such a thick skull. Hey, now there’s a new ingredient for your witches brew (soup) your own skull. Bet you could summon up all kinds of demons with that ingredient.
October 13th, 2007 at 12:21 pmyeah, that’s right, you save us, but before deciding it your president did hesitate a long time though, wether he carried on dealing with the Vichy government or opting for De Gaulle. Its only the fear that Stalin got till the Atlantic coast that Roosevlt took the right decision, and remember what Eisenhowwer said : that the disembarquement issued well thanks to the help of our Resistance, equivalent as a job of 10 divisions
sorry, no skull soup, we don’t fest the pumpkins, hehe, yes my skull is thick because of my ancestry : 2000 years of biquerings with the anglo-saxons
and Americarabia was a word in parallel with Eurabia, that your MSM like using to make jokes about us
October 13th, 2007 at 12:54 pmMaking excuses for De Gaulle huh? He did the same thing…which is why Patton couldn’t stand him. That’s OK, I’m sure the thousands of American heroes buried on French soil have their excuses too baba.
October 13th, 2007 at 1:10 pm“remember what Eisenhowwer said : that the disembarquement issued well thanks to the help of our Resistance, equivalent as a job of 10 divisions”
Please provide a reference for that. 10 Divisions??? General Bradley almost called them off mid-way because they were going so poorly.
October 13th, 2007 at 1:31 pmfranchie
How about taking all this energy and direct it towards the islamist problem ?
October 13th, 2007 at 2:40 pmI suppose I am not allowed to post the links here, I’ll do it on my place
October 13th, 2007 at 2:47 pmold11B
fortunately we didn’t wait your advise to watch after the islamist problems ; since 1954
October 13th, 2007 at 3:09 pmwe never stopped
The traitors in Congress have voted for this resolution to embarass this administration and harm this country, and to embarass and harm a NATO ally, over something that happened during the OTTOMAN EMPIRE, BEFORE TURKEY WAS A COUNTRY. They are doing it to affect the Iraq war, to cut supply lines. What difference is there between them and any enemy who seeks to cut our military’s supply lines? Not to mention, we have nukes in Turkey. What in the hell are the Congressional traitors doing? They are the lowest of the low, and I spit on them. Making trouble for our country.
October 13th, 2007 at 3:10 pmsully, even more than 10 divisions, up to 15, I was too modest
October 13th, 2007 at 3:19 pmfranchie
What can we do to help ? Your politicos seem to be making things worse..
October 13th, 2007 at 3:34 pm“even more than 10 divisions, up to 15, I was too modest”
Political hyperbole at best. With an extra “15 divisions” we should have broken out of that beachhead by the afternoon. You aren’t “too modest”. Just the opposite.
October 13th, 2007 at 4:13 pmas usual you didn’t read anything but complease with your fatuity (self conceit),
your just wind I pity your country with defencers like you
“I don’t want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries”
October 13th, 2007 at 4:32 pmyeah whateva… but i did read your links
hey… it’s been awhile since i’ve been to france… is it still like this other planet?
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j97/stars5501/birthday.jpg
October 13th, 2007 at 5:43 pmPersuasion, Routine, and Reach in Presidential Leadership.
October 13th, 2007 at 5:56 pmFranchie:
‘Ah wave ma genitals in your seesters ah.face..eh’
October 13th, 2007 at 8:31 pm“I don’t want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries”
That is one of the funniest series of sentences I’ve seen in a long time…I’m crying from laughing so hard…damn Sully she’s pist with you, you “trough wiper”. BTW, if someone just has to fart in your general direction…thats a big ass!
October 13th, 2007 at 9:39 pmpolitical.fish
the Turks ‘ll take care of them, watch out
what about them on a barbecue ?
Jim,
may-be you would like to know that this sentence is one of a nice bunch that the frenchs sent to the englishes in a monthy python serie
October 14th, 2007 at 2:26 amhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3934788900154749704&q=bush pilot&ti
Chouchou, I bet someone is messing in your job
Uranus is your planet, we only deal with the moon
cul = lune
October 14th, 2007 at 4:05 amseems that the Armenians exagerated the “ampleur” (fullness) of their genocide
http://www.box.net/shared/gidmvsx9cc
(download the fill, a bit long though)
a turkish source
so, might be some kind of manipulation there,
anyway politicians are not history experts
October 14th, 2007 at 8:39 amFranchie…very interesting, I just started glancing through it
October 14th, 2007 at 8:27 pm
KBoomr113,
October 15th, 2007 at 11:13 amI completely take back what i said, now that i have read the speech that you linked, by Lantos. I now believe that they, the dems, know exactly what they are doing and they have the worst of intentions. Thanks for posting that.