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I’m 23 and people said my generation was fucked up and useless.
We have a new winner for that title.
I weep for the future.
Pop culture claims more victims.
Once again we are our own worst enemy.
I hope I see the day when it is “cool” to be pro American.
These brats need to be exposed to how fucked up the rest of the world is, mabey then they would appreciate what they have.
This sickens me.
Pat you really need to add a little yellow puke face.
October 24th, 2007 at 6:13 pmSo we have a combination of ignorance, smartassery, and good ol’ narcissism. I take some solace that half those comments weren’t even serious, as they were coming out of the mouth of teenagers thinking they were funny. It’s also encouraging to know that they probably won’t ever be in any important positions.
October 24th, 2007 at 6:36 pmMr. Marcoe…those are the future democRat party leaders. Dimwitted, unthinking and looking for a handout. Wonder what response they’d get asking the same question of a 20-something, 30-something…etc.
October 24th, 2007 at 7:38 pmI was a Marine Recruiter for 46 months in NC. This does not surprise me one bit. You would not believe the indifference towards the military and American in general. It is mostly their parents and just group think by teachers and their friends alike. It is a free country. That’s why we need to educate and motivate these kids and show them why they are wrong. But it is still a free country, nonetheless!
Semper Fi!!
October 24th, 2007 at 7:45 pmUngrateful, uneducated and little hope to be anything other than criminals or con men. What did O’Reilly expect by asking those questions of the victims of the NYC education system? These kids are the product of the accelerating demise of the US education system. Since the inception of the NEA, the education system has been on decline. I have a 2 year old daughter and another daughter “on the way”. I’ve already discussed with my wife the three options, Catholic school, private school or home education. No decision of yet but we know we won’t be using the public indoctrination, er, I mean education system.
October 24th, 2007 at 7:48 pmIt’s hard to blame the kids. They’re force-fed this crap almost as soon as they learn to walk and talk. I’m surprised at how many turn out OK despite the bitter socialists that run the system trying to turn all of them into zombies devoid of anything except an insatiable hunger for entitlements. Maybe they should up the requirements to teach. I think the only degree easier to get than one in education is one in journalism.
October 24th, 2007 at 8:03 pmThis is such an idiotic exercise. I have been teaching for almost 20 years. I’ve heard so many of the same comments said about Gen Xers, Gen Yers and kids today. Those are the same kids that are giving their all on the front lines in Iraq and Afghanistan today. You could ask the same question to kids in the 1940s and you would get similar answers. Think about how you would have answered those questions on the spur of the moment as you were walking down the street when you were 14. They are just kids, nothing more and nothing less.
October 24th, 2007 at 8:30 pmI wish kids in this country would understand the sacrafice that my grandfather made in WW II and the 365 my father spent in vietnam. I have lost 2 friends to the Iraq war and these fuckng kids need to understand,if it wasnt for people like my grandfather, my dad, and the friends i lost, they would not be able to wake up every day and not worry about getting killed on the way to school or come home and the house they grew up in be in shambles because of some crazy fuck decided to blow up anyone around them. Semper Fi to my friends and all the armed forces who allow me to wake up every morning in the greatest country in the world.
October 24th, 2007 at 8:43 pmViper I hate to tell you this but………I talk to friends of mine whohave kids in Catholic school and it ain’t much different.
October 24th, 2007 at 8:54 pmI just went to three school conferences and got a wake up call at my fifth graders conference. His teacher mentioned that he was the only kid that did a lot of his writing in cursive. When I asked why that would be she responded that the kids don’t practice much.
Did I mention that from K - 5 grades my kids are being taught Spanish 1 - 2 hours a week. Oh and I get funny looks sometimes when I wear a Marine Corps baseball hat to casual school functions.
Some of those kids might learn differently over the years but many will just age into adulthood with ongoing entitlement syndrome.
We are very fortunate to have the men and women from each generation that have stood up to fight when our people and nation are threatened and attacked.
October 24th, 2007 at 9:30 pmIts hard to blame the kids but this pisses me off nonetheless. Hearing I dont owe my country anything, they owe us out of anyones mouth just shorts a fuse in my brain. Someone might as well have said something bad about my girlfriend to talk about this country like that, well its even worse actually. you all know what im talking about though
October 24th, 2007 at 9:45 pmI’ve already discussed with my wife the three options, Catholic school, private school or home education. No decision of yet but we know we won’t be using the public indoctrination, er, I mean education system.
For what it is worth, and after just finishing sending my two daughters thru K-12 in private schools (Catholic - one parochial; one not), here’s my observation:
You can probably get as good an education taking AP classes in a “good” public school as you will get in a private. The quality of the teaching many times is a wash. But…
What you will get more of in a private school is a parent of like mind - caring, generally Conservative with a love of country, and a belife that both the schools make the rules, the parents abide, and all love the kids. And that means a bunch.
October 24th, 2007 at 9:52 pmI teach 10th grade history in Escondido, CA and this is not representative of all kids today. My school is extremely diverse. We have kids with parents who are millionaires and others who just hopped the fence. Schools are a reflection of the general population with high achievers, patriots, middle of the pack grinders, anti-US liberals, blood sucking parasites, and everything in between. The way your children turn out is up to you and that’s the way it ought to be. Most teachers try to be solid role models, mentor those in need, give them some of the tools and opportunity to make something of their lives, and that’s what we’re supposed to do. If you want your kids to turn out right, pay attention to them. Read to them at night, check their grades, go to their ball games, coach their teams or volunteer at school. In general, be involved in their lives. If you want better for your kids then do what it takes because the way a child turns out is solely a reflection of those people who brought them into this world. Those people serving in the military today aren’t much older than these kids interviewed here. Don’t lose faith, there’s too many good ones.
October 24th, 2007 at 9:52 pm@mshatto
“I teach 10th grade history….”
Really? Could you tell me what textbook you use these days please?
October 24th, 2007 at 10:22 pmDon’t worry guys, I’m just starting my job as a high school history teacher.
If all goes well my school district will have the highest enlistment rates in the country!
October 25th, 2007 at 12:12 amSome have said “they’re only kids”. Anyone seen Jay Leno’s Jaywalkers routine? They’re all in their 20s and 30s. This totally self-absorbed attitude we saw here and on Leno are extreme samplings of the population, but it shows how far off the center is. To many alive today the world was manufactured the day they were hatched and they think they’re so cute.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:16 amJohn, 99 % true !
but it also may happen that we meet some older asses who can’t be differented from the “cutes” ;
I would say that each age has its values and anti-values ; I am not sure ours were better for our parents
October 25th, 2007 at 12:49 amSully
what’s the hell !
your reflexion has nothing to do with the subject
and BTW I agree with mshatto ; I did the same for my kids : both have a good job in EU now
October 25th, 2007 at 12:56 amSometimes I’m ashamed to be a part of this generation…
October 25th, 2007 at 1:04 amAnd people wonder why the states in the Northeast consistently vote Democrat…
I expect that if you asked kids in the Midwest and the South, you would get a few better answers.
And here’s to you, Ranger!
October 25th, 2007 at 2:39 amFunny and disturbing. Particularly the kid who said what has the military done for me. What it’s done keep you free, and knpw you will not be dragged off and hurt for insulting the us govt.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:13 amLighten up on the kids. When I graduated from High School in 1967 most of my generation was openly advocating that we become a Soviet State. Many took up arms against the US and almost all of them attacked guys in the military as fools and mindless robots. Remember, only about 30% of the colonists fought on our side in 1776. This is the way it has always been. The reason that I give this generation a pass is because of the kids in uniform who are simply amazing.
October 25th, 2007 at 3:21 amObviously, with so many re-upping and many more joing the service, these pinheads are not necessarily represntative of anything.
The one thing missing from the schools is a civics course. The idea that one should “ask not what their country can do fot you, but ask what you can do for your country”. is not being taught in the schools. But it is being taught in many homes.
Duty, Honor, Country, should be a concept that crosses all generations. If kids are not learning these concepts in school or at home, one cannot expect more from them than “duh”; which is why I’m not surprised by this report.
However, the kids in this report responded, there are still many young people who are willing to stand in the gap and serve this great country in the Armed Forces.
It seems clear that past generations of patriots are the ones who are responsible to pass the torch to the next generation…and thankfully many have.
Many are called, few are chosen.
October 25th, 2007 at 5:08 amWe are in deep shit.
October 25th, 2007 at 5:29 amPerfect example of liberal indoctrination. A generation of Crap. High dollar whores for the left.
October 25th, 2007 at 5:39 amDo not be too sad with the video clip you have watched. For their are some good Americans who are willing to give back what this great Nation have given. My Son was once one of those pitiful people who think they do not have to give anything back. But when he got a little bit older (25 yrs old) he realize that he need direction in his life and decided to join the Army. He is now serving in Iraq and I am very, very proud of my Son. Yes we do have a bunch of spoiled cry babys out there but remember we do have a lot of GOOD AMERICANS too. JFK said it best and that was: “Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country”.
October 25th, 2007 at 5:52 amKipp makes an interesting point: “They are just kids, nothing more and nothing less.” In principle, I agree. However…
What we saw in the video is not rooted in childhood, adolescence or even the latest notion, “the death of the grown-up.” What IS central to what we watched is what Bill O’Reilly touched upon when he said that schools are teaching touchy-feely bullshit rather than history, geography and so on.
Let’s look at how people view the world with and without a notion of history.
I am very impressed with the film “A Few Good Men.” I think it had a superb screenplay, wasn’t tangibly right-wing or left-wing, and was expertly composed as a work of art. Flash forward a few years. Same director, Rob Reiner, and same screenwriter, Aaron Sorkin, make a film called “The American President.”
Very cute romantic comedy, but with a preposterously left-wing slant. Let’s put aside the romance and review its portrayal of “the most powerful man in the world.” Let’s take a look at how Reiner and Sorkin presented a liberal democrat president who, in the scene where President Andrew Shepard must decide how to retaliate for the recent attack by Libya on a military complex.
“One day somebody’s got to explain to me the meaning of a ‘proportional response.’”
Uh, you’re the president. You don’t know what a proportional response is? Why it is necessary? How it separates civilized countries from barbarians?
Next scene: The president is all wet in the knickers over his decision to bomb Libian Intelligence Headquarters. A janitor will die in the raid. Michael Douglas, playing President Shepard, is all boo-hoo, wringing his hands over how his decision will result in the death of an innocent Libian janitor. “You’ve just watched me perform the least presidential thing I do.”
Put this moron in Pampers, give him a bottle and send him back to his Mommy. He has no business in the White House!
History!
The HMS Bulldog, along with American and other allied support, succesfully captures one of the Enigma decoding machines and masks the capture, leading the Nazis to believe the device was lost at sea, thereby enabling the Allies to intercept the highest quality encoded transmissions of WW2. Because of this, Winston Churchill was notified that a squadron of Heinkle and Dornier night bombers are en route to bomb Coventry. What does Churchill do?
If he evacuates the town, sends up the RAF to interdict or otherwise takes any precautionary defense measures, it means the Germans will abandon use of Enigma, thus blinding the Allies to their most secret strategies. The push for D-Day is at hand, and Enigma stands to save countless thousands of British, American and Allied lived. If Churchill does nothing, the Germans pulverize Coventry, thousands of men, women and children die. British nationals. His own people.
Churchill orders that no response is to be taken. Thousands die. Enigma is secured. The war progresses and it is won by the Allies.
You think Churchill went all wobbly and cried on his cigar? Think again. This man was a professional politician, diplomat and military strategist. You want to run a country, get used to “Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown.”
Otherwise get a job in Hollywood and live in Fantasyland.
Most adults haven’t a clue what they owe this country, let alone the Nintendo crowd.
There are only two cures for liberalism. One is getting schooled in how the world really works. The other is defeat.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:06 amSSgduke54 has a very good point, but it was Cicero, not JFK, who first said, “Ask not what your country can do for you…”
October 25th, 2007 at 6:40 amLadies and Gentlemen I believe we’ve found the poster children for Mandatory Abortions! LOL!
Even when I was going through my rebellious stage I clearly understood that it was the Sacrifices of this Nations Troops that afforded me the luxury of being a snot nosed little turd! Shipments of American youth to Europe, the Middle East and other far away places should begin immediately! Grrrr!
October 25th, 2007 at 6:48 amYeah and your country doesn’t owe you anything either…
October 25th, 2007 at 6:50 am“Sully
what’s the hell !
your reflexion has nothing to do with the subject”
I asked which textbook was being used to teach 10th grade history by mshatto, a history teacher. STFU and mind your own business frenchie.
“…and BTW I agree with mshatto ; I did the same for my kids : both have a good job in EU now”
YOU have kids working in the EU???? That’s great.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:08 amKids are stupid. Most people are ignorant. This isn’t surprising. We all know this. What bothers me is the growing sense of ‘entitlement’ in this country. Everyone thinks they’re entitled to freedom, jobs, money, health care, etc. When did these things become givens? We are soft and fat. This will turn around and bite us in the future.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:08 amYou know the sad part of this clip is that the producer was on the streets of NYC doing that. One might figure that something would resonate with the youth here, but alas no.
Those kids are a product of the Limousine Liberal set on one side of the spectrum and kids from the projects. They have an incredible sense of entitlement in that they feel owed. It is a direct result of the drivel they are spoon fed in the schools in the city.
They can tell you what it feels like to be Puerto Rican, or Dominican, having never stepped foot in either place, but not American.
That’s what you get under the banner of “multiculturalism” and “diversity”.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:16 amAlmost makes you think that more terror attacks are exactly the thing America needs right now to help toughen up a bit. Bet you’d get better responses in Israel to the same questions…
October 25th, 2007 at 7:41 amI mind whatever intercalls me, but I accord you, since your were pointing me here on any subjects, I take some attention when you are on board
Sully, we can work wherever in EU as long as we are EU inhabitants :prout:
October 25th, 2007 at 7:52 amPlease send every one of those idiots to me here in India, I will return them to you wizened patriots.
October 25th, 2007 at 7:59 amIn fairness I believe they may have interviewed another 100 kids with good answers but they didn’t air them because they were trying to make a point.
These days it seems like everyone wants to be “right” rather than truthful.
October 25th, 2007 at 8:03 amAt one place in my life I was a school administrator at a jail school in a very liberal city. Hearing what these jokers had to say is not surprising at all.
October 25th, 2007 at 8:05 amStick a microphone in front of uneducated people (no matter how old) and you will get an uneducated answer. Is anyone shocked by what these wards of the state had to say? NOT!
Future liberal democrats.Entitlement mentalities.
Ask not what your country can do for you, on second thought, ask. JFK must be spinning in his grave.
October 25th, 2007 at 8:07 amI believe I’ve found new meaning to
SHOCK & AWE !! WTF !!!
October 25th, 2007 at 8:27 amwere fucked !!
Hi Sully,
Spievogel’s Western Civilization - 5th Edition for AP Euro
World History - the Modern World - Prentice Hall for World Cultures.
That help?
October 25th, 2007 at 9:07 amIt is quite ironic how it is the American education system that socializes these kids to know nothing about the history America, or why they should feel lucky to live here. I still remember my mom telling me when I was a kid, “You are so lucky to be born here, people in other countries have so much less than us.” I never fully understood what she meant until later, but this has stuck with me into adulthood and now I know. It is a shame that many parents are as ignorant as their children, and do not instill the type of values into their children that are necessary to have a positive thinking and enlightened next generation. Instead, with the education system is serious decline, we will get more and more of what you see in the video. And its not that they feel entitled to something, because they probably don’t, it’s that they are too ignorant and uneducated to know the power and importance of knowledge.
October 25th, 2007 at 9:28 amActually Kevin M, Churchill cried a lot. If you know your history he suffered from chronic depression.
October 25th, 2007 at 9:29 amduuuuhhhhh………….
You could go out and cherry pick answers from any generation and get this. It is anecdotal.
However, it probably does reflect a growing trend. Unless people go after it themselves they are never taught the military and civic tradition of America.
The right to vote and be a citizen needs to be earned not given. How about some knowledge of the government and civil service required.
October 25th, 2007 at 9:41 am@mshatto:
“That help?”
I’ll look them up. Just curious if there was a difference between Cali and VA and, if so, what they might be in the classroom today vs. 10 years ago when my eldest was in high school. Thanks for the info.
October 25th, 2007 at 9:45 amSully,
Each state has different standards which, I believe, were not pushed until No Child Left Behind. I began teaching around the time that the law was passed so it’s all I’ve known. Every piece of curriculum is centered on the standards. I graduated high school in 1988 and to be honest I think kids get a much beter education today. That doesn’t mean that there’s more discipline in school today or that morals are better, just that the material covered and class offerings is much more advanced today. When I started teaching there was one section of Advanced Placement US History taught offered at my school. Today, my school offers approximately 15 different courses with 60 sections of AP classes, for which students can earn college credits if they pass a test at the end of the year that is given internationally. Kids can get a great public school education if the parents are involved. The problem is that administrators hands are so tied by litigation when handling bad kids. There’s only so much they can do. Public schools have to teach all kids, regardless of ability, attitude, and behavior. I see 180 kids a day in class in five classes. That’s not counting those in clubs are on sports team that I see during the day. Somewhat like educational triage. That’s why it’s really up to the parents. Take care.
October 25th, 2007 at 10:44 ammshatto:
“Kids can get a great public school education if the parents are involved.”
I agree. Thanks for your time.
October 25th, 2007 at 11:13 amAs a 17 year old at a very liberal high school in Connecticut this video hardly surprises me.
The draft board asks for some info, recruiter visits the school, I make a movie in film class about my views on iraq. Parents get pissed and write angry letters.
Over the summer I went on a two month trip to China, out of the ten boys on the trip I was the only one who said that I would never dodge a draft if it happens. Granted there was another kid from Israel and he was all for kicking terrorist ass.
A recent poll at my school: less than 0.5% of students would even consider serving in the military.
My best friend’s parents call me “Suicide Boy” because I want to serve.
Out of the past 4 graduating classes (like 3,000 something kids) only 2 students have joined the military (both marines)
Based on my educational environment I’m hardly surprised by any of this. But I’m wholly committed to serving in America’s military because in my eyes there is no higher caller than giving back to a country that has given my parents (both immigrants) and I so much. To me I can’t just take the freedoms and benefits America has given to me for free, I need to earn it.
I can only hope I am worthy enough to serve amongst America’s finest who answer the call.
October 25th, 2007 at 5:47 pmI will take a great leap here and say i agree with Kipp. Am i losing my mind? jokes aside, Interviewing kids passing in the street is not a good indicator of the reality. You could interview many other kids with sound understanding of what it means to be an american. Values are taught at home, and undermined in the public schools generally speaking. I asume we wait till the time that kids must assume full responsibility for their lives before we test their patriotism. they still have alot to learn. remedy: lets do away with public education altogether and let the free market reign. Let parents decide where to send their kids to school. less taxes, reduced costs and greater efficiency will come from a country that allows people the freedom to chose the kind of education their kids will receive.
for those who inevitable think some kids will be too poor to to go to school. Not as long as we have Catholic schools that even today reward kids with free education.
October 25th, 2007 at 6:09 pm