Video: Whoopi Goldberg Compares America to Nazi Germany
Whoopi Goldberg made it clear that she holds the US in contempt on today’s edition of ‘The View’ on ABC. Goldberg, who is the official host of the show, made a comparison of the US’ so-called “nationalism” mentality to that of Nazi Germany. Watch the video at Ian Schwartz.com:
Key transcript:
GOLDBERG: Well, I think because one of the things that happens when you get nationalism whipped up in a country is people start going “yeah it’s them, it’s not us, it’s them, it’s not us, let’s go get them!” We saw it happen. We saw it happen here. People started saying, “oh, yeah, it’s all those people, you know, those people from other countries, you know, the ones that wear stuff over their heads and they’re coming over here. And all those illegal people, they’re coming, we’ve got to get rid of them. And we got to get-” And so everybody starts going, “yeah, we’ve got to take care of it, yeah, we got to take care of it.” And it’s so easy to fall into it.
HARRIS: It is a mob mentality, sure.
GOLDBERG: What I, what I’ve come to understand really over the last several years is how easy it is for us to become nationalistic and not recognize that we are — the Nazis believed that it was them and not us.
At the beginning of the clip Whoopi says she would forgive the Nazis just because she believes in forgiveness. Whoopi is willing to give cold blooded murderers who wanted to wipe out an entire race of people the benefit of the doubt but not her own country?
Via Newsbusters, where analysis and a full transcript of the conversation is available.
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It’s amazing how smart the left thinks they are.
Makes my blood boil.
That bitch is as bad as the worthless oxygen stealer that came before her.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:33 pmMore moral equivalence from the New Amerikan Politikal Korrektness Kommisars.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:36 pmUgly bitch.
October 26th, 2007 at 2:54 pmI guess when you’re mouth is full of it, it’s only natural some bullshit would have to come out of it.
I wonder how she’d like to live in an Islamic country wearing a burka, staying at home, etc.
She doesn’t seem to understand that it is this country, blessed by choices, that has to fight those forces within other countries that would take choices away, including hers.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:06 pm“whipped up in a country is people start going…let’s go get them!”
Yes, the last time I checked the news, those vast right-wing conservatives are really out of control. Suicide Belts, car bombings, ramming cars into airport terminals, family stonings, random attacks on European streets, destruction of churches and nuns… oh wait. That would be…
“…those people from other countries, you know, the ones that wear stuff over their heads”
October 26th, 2007 at 3:06 pmAnd the Nazis would’ve gassed your black ass first, forgiveness or no forgiveness. We aren’t the ones running around gassing motherfuckers.
You motherfuckers better stop trying to undermine this country as a superpower. Once we’re gone, another will take our place - and THAT superpower may not (as a matter of fact, almost certainly WILL not; looking at past history, no other superpower has shown the concern for other countries that we have!) be as benevolent as the USA is.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:07 pm“yeah it’s them, it’s not us, it’s them, it’s not us, let’s go get them!” We saw it happen. We saw it happen here. People started saying, “oh, yeah, it’s all those people, you know, those people from other countries, you know, the ones that wear stuff over their heads and they’re coming over here. And all those illegal people, they’re coming, we’ve got to get rid of them. And we got to get-” And so everybody starts going, “yeah, we’ve got to take care of it, yeah, we got to take care of it.” And it’s so easy to fall into it.
So, let me get this straight. If I defend myself or my country from “them” then I am wrong? But what if those people are saying stuff like:
Its those Americans, they have so much, they have more than we do, they don’t deserve it, so lets go take it, however we have to do it, but lets get them, those filthy Americans… You know its all those evil Americans, with their big houses, and riding around in their fancy cars, with a great economy and jobs, its their fault that we are poor and live in squallor, they have taken territory that was ours, lets get “them”, they don’t believe in Allah, so lets kill them.
So, by Whoopi’s standard that is just fine eh? And we are wrong to defend against that eh?
Bullshit! You ignorant slut!
October 26th, 2007 at 3:08 pmFuking Pig.. I hate people like her. MOVE BITCH!
October 26th, 2007 at 3:19 pmShe’s right. It was me. I personally flew 4 jets into the world trade center buildings, one into the pentagon and another into a field not too far from my home in Pennsylvania. She’s right it’s all my fault. I did it.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:23 pmWell liberal bitch, If America was what you think it is, you wouldn’t be here!!!!!!! Oh Darn!
October 26th, 2007 at 3:36 pmI have so little respect for these Hollywood/NY losers. We hear it over and over again from out-of-touch libs who want to try and connect with the mainstream. Everytime they open their mouths, the only thing they reveal is how ignorant they are. And this is a show for the daytime housewife viewer, so Whoopie is like, a wacky version Maya Angelou to them. She’s so liberated and open with her views… so funny and smart.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:41 pmThe libs always try to attack conservatives for fomenting irrational fear, yet that’s precisely what they do to get a point across. What delegitimizes everything they say is the lack of evidence they can bring forth. Or they grip onto one extreme example and ignore all the other counterevidence. Libs speak with their emotions, not with logic or evidence.
She is saying that it can be a bad thing to get swept up in an emotional nationalistic attitude and to not be rational in difficult times, the result of which can lead to some very devastating things such as what the Nazis did. She didn’t say that we are Nazis, she is simply using them as an extreme example of where this nationalist emotionalist appeal can lead to when it is not tempered with rational thinking and analysis by our leaders. A pretty basic and straightforward statement.
October 26th, 2007 at 4:25 pmi just did a quick search, I did not find any documentation that WE chopped of peoples heads, bombed any town or city with chemical weapons, raped women and kids on a full scale basis,took a shot at ethnic cleansing,attacked and killed over 3000 civilians or were just plain evil to anyone much less THEM. Get a grip Whoppi
October 26th, 2007 at 4:33 pmLets not completely dismiss what she said. Do I believe the Nazi’s should be forgiven? I don’t know, that should be left up to the individuals that the Nazi’s need to ask for forgiveness from.
Do I believe the US is like Nazi Germany? HELL NO!
However she does make a very good point in that it is very easy to get wrapped up in Nationalism. I believe being proud of your country is wonderful and I am VERY proud of the US and what it stands for. That is one reason I served in the Active Army for 7 years.
However I do remember right after 9/11 some Muslims being treated poorly or that their Mosques here in the US were vandalized. All this without any proof of their envolvement in any kind of terrorism.
Not all Muslims are terrorists and recently a letter signed by 20 something Muslim leaders was sent to the UN denouncing the terrorist activities of Radical Muslims such as Al Quada.
So yes Whoopi takes it farther than what I would go, however some of her words are correct and should be listened to rather than outright dismissing everything she says because she is a leftist liberal.
I love this country and would hate to see it fall into a generalizing hate mongering place. I do not believe we are there, but it is something we need to be careful we do not go to.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:05 pmI’d go tell Whoopi where she could shove her head but she’s already got it shoved in there…up to the shoulders. And as for her comparison of our “nationalism” to that of Nazi Germany’s, it’s an analogy heavily fraught with problems:
1. A dictator was necessary to whip up national pride in post-Weimar Germany.
2. Brute force by the SS and SA were necessary to sustain that nationalism.
3. That nationalism was circumscribed by twin doctrines of national socialism and outright racism.
4. Nazi Germany faced no real threat from any nation and, if anything, was well-treated by western and eastern nations alike.
5. Problems were pinned on a scapegoat: the Jews - supposedly responsible for the outrages of the Versailles Treaty whose obligations compelled Germany to pay massive reparations during a weak government and worldwide Depression.
How does America compare?
1. We most certainly don’t have a dictator and though his rhetoric may sound “tough” at times, his bark is far worse than his bite - especially since he has proven weak in maintaining his campaign promises. This last is largely the fault of Democrat resistance - the ultimate proof that Bush does NOT hold dictatorial power (Hitler would simply have sent Reid and Pelosi to Auschwitz or had the SS murder them).
2. US nationalism generally tends to be a grass-roots affair - all the more apparent when the media, and politicians do their humble best to squelch all expressions of love for country.
3. Our brand of nationalism is bound up in doctrines of equality, democratic freedom, and rule of law. One could hardly accuse Nazi Germany of such outrageous principles.
4. Currently, America faces as great a threat to its existence as it ever did during WWII. Germany was trying very hard not to provoke America - it knew that the entrance of America into the war would rapidly tip the scales of fortune. America, today, faces off against the radicalized portion of Islam while bending over backwards in its attempt not to provoke the other half. Ironically, many of the tenets of Nazism hold true for Islam as well: superiority, death to the other, need to subjugate the earth, etc.
5. Americans don’t need a scapegoat. Their problem is standing right in front of them with a loaded AK-47. Rather, it’s Muslims who need the scapegoat. To mask the violent and crusading nature of their religion, they proffer such excuses as “Western Culture,” economic privation, and US support of Israel.
Is a comparison between the US and Nazi Germany applicable? No! Is a comparison between certain elements of American society and elements of Nazi Germany applicable? Yes!
1. Both Nazis and Liberals believe in government solutions to all their problems.
2. Nazi Germany had the propaganda machine of Josef Goebbels, we simply have the MSM.
3. Nazi Germany had Nazi Youth Organizations and virulently pro-Nazi material in their schools, we have the usual liberal drivel fed to our children in public schools to make them good little socialists.
4. Both Nazis and Liberals had their maniacally-pursued scapegoats: Nazis had Jews and Liberals have “racists.”
As one can see, making comparisons with the likes of Hitler’s Germany bears with it the heavy burden of proof. Whoopi has failed miserably in this critical aspect and has succeeded only in throwing yet another stone from her glass house.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:25 pm“Not all Muslims are terrorists and recently a letter signed by 20 something Muslim leaders was sent to the UN denouncing the terrorist activities of Radical Muslims such as Al Quada.”
Wow!
That’ll stop those terrorists. Let me know how that works out.
Muslims are not to be trusted.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:29 pmShe obviously missed the whole point where we are “the them”. We have been “the them” for many decades. We are “the them” that they want to exterminate. Not the other way around. We do not have people chanting in our streets year after year: Death to America, Death to Israel, Death to the Infidel, Death to the Great Satan, and burning effigies in the streets while planning their next terrorist attack somewhere in the world - the chants have been around for a very long time and we are not going to just sit back while THEY terrorize and take over as ligitimate governments while THEY exterminate any of THEM that they deem unfit to suck air. Where the fuk has she been.
What a buch of bullshit she spews.
October 26th, 2007 at 5:46 pmBZ Humble.
October 26th, 2007 at 6:05 pmI guess in addition to never having studied history Whoopi: wouldn’t know what Argumentum ad ignorantiam means either?
October 26th, 2007 at 6:39 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/swf/cps.swf?video_id=ervaMPt4Ha0&eurl=http://us.f395.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=679_13675975_312135_2220_1669_0_100928_4332_2290821278&Idx=0&YY=&iurl=http://img.youtube.com/vi/ervaMPt4Ha0/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskJKSQsx7In7hnFsB6_wIhm3&autoplay=1&rel=1&border=0
October 26th, 2007 at 6:49 pmWhile I get the point that nationalism that is irrational can be bad, we are soo far from the nazi’s I can’t believe she said that. How many hollywood people actually don’t mind the us now
October 26th, 2007 at 7:21 pmThe mere fact that she can piss and moan like that is what seperates the US from it’s enemies. We should keep that in mind.
October 26th, 2007 at 8:39 pmWhoopi doesn’t know whether she is coming or going. She’s regurging random BS she has heard from some other liberal asshat. She turns me off in such a manner, I can’t watch The View anymore. Joy is a fuggin ugly old cow, Barbara is practically absent, Elizabeth quit, the black chick with giant boobs is too ghetto… I relate to no one.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:01 pm@Dan:
“I guess in addition to never having studied history Whoopi: wouldn’t know what Argumentum ad ignorantiam means either?”
Nor the Libs posting here.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:08 pm@eric:
“She is saying that it can be a bad thing to get swept up in an emotional nationalistic attitude and to not be rational in difficult times…… A pretty basic and straightforward statement.”
Gee. You justifying an argument from moral equivalence… who’da thunk that might happen?
October 26th, 2007 at 9:11 pmI guess no one ever told her fried mattress stuffing doesn’t substitute for hair.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:23 pm“The mere fact that she can piss and moan like that is what seperates the US from it’s enemies. We should keep that in mind.”
Well that and the fact that we can piss and moan about her her and to ABC and Disney about her having a ‘voice’ on ABC to spout Lib porn like Americans being like NAZIs. Do your part?
October 26th, 2007 at 9:48 pmIf Whoopi wants to worry about a “nation” of people getting caught up in a fascistic “nationalist” movement, then she should speak about it in practical, non-theoretical terms that reflect the truth of our times: The rising fascistic American nation that is silencing free speech, demanding lockstep, undermining the democratic process and rabble rousing with jingoism is the American Nation of The Left. Attack that nationalism in stark contemporary terms and then you’ll have credibility. Until then, you’re just flogging dead talking points from a dead age.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:57 pmYeah, I get the comparison. Good point Rosie, I mean Whoopie.
Free 50MM folks from a brutal dictator and a thug Taliban regime and walk 50% of the Jews into an oven and burn them or gas them.
Hey, that’s a brilliant analogy.
Luv,
The KKKos Kidz
October 26th, 2007 at 10:05 pmIs Whoopi going to “forgive” the white slaveholders who brought her ancestors to this awful country?
October 26th, 2007 at 10:15 pmWas she doing her impersonation of a drug addict while saying that tripe? Seriously, if she wasn’t, this woman isn’t capable of anything beyond basic thought processes. What is it? Is it the insane amount of money that these people have that warps them into raving lunatics? If so, I am going to stop buying lottery tickets.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:07 pmI’m really concerned about whoopi ZZZZZzzzzz
October 27th, 2007 at 6:33 amAll in in favor of a preemptive strike say I
Bush the fascist/nazi sure isn’t doing a very good job, is he? Whoopi is still free to make her ignorant statements on national television.
I have to wonder where she even got the term, ‘nationalism,’ from? She obviously doesn’t understand its meaning.
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