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	<title>Comments on: Waterboarding And Hiroshima: Why We Must &#8220;Lower Ourselves To Our Enemy&#8217;s Level&#8221;</title>
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	<description>Eventually, I learned the joys of killing. But I’m skipping ahead of myself. I landed in Iraq in November 2004 armed with a video camera instead of a weapon...</description>
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		<title>By: John Cunningham</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63242</link>
		<author>John Cunningham</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gosh darn, if we'd have only chatted, not.

I love debasing myself.

Two wrongs don't make it right, but it makes things equal.  First I heard that Queen Latifa said it.  Long live the Queen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh darn, if we&#8217;d have only chatted, not.</p>
<p>I love debasing myself.</p>
<p>Two wrongs don&#8217;t make it right, but it makes things equal.  First I heard that Queen Latifa said it.  Long live the Queen.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in NC</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63256</link>
		<author>Steve in NC</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>the nazi's were evil but were not insanely fanatical like the japanese 

the last time we faced fanatics who took honor in suicidal attacks we had to use nuclear weapons to force their surrender

funny how history repeats itself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the nazi&#8217;s were evil but were not insanely fanatical like the japanese </p>
<p>the last time we faced fanatics who took honor in suicidal attacks we had to use nuclear weapons to force their surrender</p>
<p>funny how history repeats itself</p>
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		<title>By: JWalk</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63261</link>
		<author>JWalk</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I once read of an NFL linebacker from Denver who shared of his wife's struggles with cancer.  Something he said in that article comes to mind.  He said,  "You have to take it to a level that your oppenent cannot and will not go, in order to succeed."  Nuff said</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once read of an NFL linebacker from Denver who shared of his wife&#8217;s struggles with cancer.  Something he said in that article comes to mind.  He said,  &#8220;You have to take it to a level that your oppenent cannot and will not go, in order to succeed.&#8221;  Nuff said</p>
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		<title>By: LadyAngler</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63262</link>
		<author>LadyAngler</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Steve~ All I want to point out is Truman was the man, but I'd assume it's a lot easier to drop nukes when you are the only one who has them. It'd be like playing poker with both jokers in your hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve~ All I want to point out is Truman was the man, but I&#8217;d assume it&#8217;s a lot easier to drop nukes when you are the only one who has them. It&#8217;d be like playing poker with both jokers in your hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Marsh</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63270</link>
		<author>Erik Marsh</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This is the problem with the theory that mutually assured destruction will work now with the islamofascists as it did with the Soviets.  Where as both the citizens of the USA and USSR are enamoured with life and seek to perpetually improve their lot and enjoy life, the islamofascists do not share that same point of view.  Life is an inconvenient waystation, an uncomfortable situation that one must endure before returning to Allah thereby making a sacrifice of life the most beloved choice among all things that are required by him.  Much like Steve in NC stated, there is only one way to combat a fanaticism as this.  Providing Habeus Corpus and a publicly funded defense attorney do not accomplish our desired goal.  Mushroom clouds over Tehran, Damascus, Gaza, Somalia and Waziristan will eventually be the beginning of the end for islamofascism.  The only question that remains is where the mushroom cloud will appear that motivates us into action? Hint:  Tel Aviv has no religious significance therefore is open for targeting by those who would do Isreal and the West harm (And well within range).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the problem with the theory that mutually assured destruction will work now with the islamofascists as it did with the Soviets.  Where as both the citizens of the USA and USSR are enamoured with life and seek to perpetually improve their lot and enjoy life, the islamofascists do not share that same point of view.  Life is an inconvenient waystation, an uncomfortable situation that one must endure before returning to Allah thereby making a sacrifice of life the most beloved choice among all things that are required by him.  Much like Steve in NC stated, there is only one way to combat a fanaticism as this.  Providing Habeus Corpus and a publicly funded defense attorney do not accomplish our desired goal.  Mushroom clouds over Tehran, Damascus, Gaza, Somalia and Waziristan will eventually be the beginning of the end for islamofascism.  The only question that remains is where the mushroom cloud will appear that motivates us into action? Hint:  Tel Aviv has no religious significance therefore is open for targeting by those who would do Isreal and the West harm (And well within range).</p>
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		<title>By: CJWarner</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63290</link>
		<author>CJWarner</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>According to our politicians, we must show the enemy we are stronger than they are by NOT waterboarding them.

So, we must give illegal aliens driver's licenses and we must give rights to illegal combatants.  What are my rights as a legal citizen again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to our politicians, we must show the enemy we are stronger than they are by NOT waterboarding them.</p>
<p>So, we must give illegal aliens driver&#8217;s licenses and we must give rights to illegal combatants.  What are my rights as a legal citizen again?</p>
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		<title>By: Caligula</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63294</link>
		<author>Caligula</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>as part of navy seal training you are waterboarded no?  if it were truly torture... why would we subject our own bravest fighters to it?  and there's this video going around on al gores tv thing...

if groups of our own people are willing to VOLUNTARILY go through it HOW CAN IT BE TORTURE?  you don't see these people willing to have their fingernails pulled out, or be subjected to anything that occurs in communist or islamofascist prisons...  but they are willing to be waterboarded "just to see" or to demonstrate it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as part of navy seal training you are waterboarded no?  if it were truly torture&#8230; why would we subject our own bravest fighters to it?  and there&#8217;s this video going around on al gores tv thing&#8230;</p>
<p>if groups of our own people are willing to VOLUNTARILY go through it HOW CAN IT BE TORTURE?  you don&#8217;t see these people willing to have their fingernails pulled out, or be subjected to anything that occurs in communist or islamofascist prisons&#8230;  but they are willing to be waterboarded &#8220;just to see&#8221; or to demonstrate it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in NC</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63299</link>
		<author>Steve in NC</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63299</guid>
					<description>Watch a demo of waterboarding here:

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/04/video-steve-harrigan-gets-waterboarded-on-fox/

now that is just horrific!!

check out how alqueeeda treats it's prisoners with respect to the geneva convention

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20919</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch a demo of waterboarding here:</p>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/04/video-steve-harrigan-gets-waterboarded-on-fox/" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/04/video-steve-harrigan-gets-waterboarded-on-fox/</a></p>
<p>now that is just horrific!!</p>
<p>check out how alqueeeda treats it&#8217;s prisoners with respect to the geneva convention</p>
<p><a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20919" rel="nofollow">http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20919</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erik Marsh</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63301</link>
		<author>Erik Marsh</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's called SEER training - Survive, Evade, Escape, Return.  A training format created out of the realities of the Vietnam War, it teaches our soldiers, pilots and marines the skills required to not only evade capture and facillitate rescue, but also how to deal with the trials of torture as they are applied by your captors.  Waterboarding is an element of that training.  Everybody witnesses a subject being waterboarded, but only volunteers are actually put through the process. The course also covers sleep deprivation, temperature variation, diet reduction, isolation, close quarters confinement, etc. Much as the Green Berets, SEALS, Delta, TACP, FIST and other doctrines saw their creation/refinement based on Vietnam Lessons Learned, so does SEER.  Modeled after the debriefings received from POW Camp survivors, it is one of the most important corses that Rangers, Operators (SEAL/Delta/SF), Pathfinders, Force Recon, FIST and ETACs can take part in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s called SEER training - Survive, Evade, Escape, Return.  A training format created out of the realities of the Vietnam War, it teaches our soldiers, pilots and marines the skills required to not only evade capture and facillitate rescue, but also how to deal with the trials of torture as they are applied by your captors.  Waterboarding is an element of that training.  Everybody witnesses a subject being waterboarded, but only volunteers are actually put through the process. The course also covers sleep deprivation, temperature variation, diet reduction, isolation, close quarters confinement, etc. Much as the Green Berets, SEALS, Delta, TACP, FIST and other doctrines saw their creation/refinement based on Vietnam Lessons Learned, so does SEER.  Modeled after the debriefings received from POW Camp survivors, it is one of the most important corses that Rangers, Operators (SEAL/Delta/SF), Pathfinders, Force Recon, FIST and ETACs can take part in.</p>
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		<title>By: Future0311 (the infidel)</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63302</link>
		<author>Future0311 (the infidel)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Two wrongs don't make a right, but the second wrong makes damn sure the first NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right, but the second wrong makes damn sure the first NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.</p>
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		<title>By: Lamplighter</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63330</link>
		<author>Lamplighter</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63330</guid>
					<description>Good article. This whole waterboarding "debate" is an embarassing joke. Oh well, AG Mulkasey was approved in Judiciary Cmtee anyway despite Billary's, Obama's, Durbin's etc.'s slamming him (he was nominated at first after Harry Reid and Chuckie Schumer said they would approve of him). The hypocracy knows no bounds.  Can these dems really be that stupid:  let's distract the entire country into being concerned about "waterboarding" and "global warming," when AlQueda is trying to mass murder Americans, the dollar is going down the tubes, we are now 60% dependent on foreign oil whose price is approaching $100/barrel(as opposed to 30% in the 1970's), genocide is occurring in Darfur, etc., etc., but waterboarding and "global warming" are the most important issues going on today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. This whole waterboarding &#8220;debate&#8221; is an embarassing joke. Oh well, AG Mulkasey was approved in Judiciary Cmtee anyway despite Billary&#8217;s, Obama&#8217;s, Durbin&#8217;s etc.&#8217;s slamming him (he was nominated at first after Harry Reid and Chuckie Schumer said they would approve of him). The hypocracy knows no bounds.  Can these dems really be that stupid:  let&#8217;s distract the entire country into being concerned about &#8220;waterboarding&#8221; and &#8220;global warming,&#8221; when AlQueda is trying to mass murder Americans, the dollar is going down the tubes, we are now 60% dependent on foreign oil whose price is approaching $100/barrel(as opposed to 30% in the 1970&#8217;s), genocide is occurring in Darfur, etc., etc., but waterboarding and &#8220;global warming&#8221; are the most important issues going on today.</p>
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		<title>By: jam</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63334</link>
		<author>jam</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Clinton and Obama just disqualified themselves.  In my mind, they were never qualified, but this "should" change some lefty minds.

Even Chuck Schumer is OK with Mukasey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton and Obama just disqualified themselves.  In my mind, they were never qualified, but this &#8220;should&#8221; change some lefty minds.</p>
<p>Even Chuck Schumer is OK with Mukasey.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian H</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63514</link>
		<author>Brian H</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No, no, Jam, you don't get it.  NOTHING will "disqualify" Clinton and Obama; they are Anti-GWB!  That covers all, excuses all, and there's an end to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no, Jam, you don&#8217;t get it.  NOTHING will &#8220;disqualify&#8221; Clinton and Obama; they are Anti-GWB!  That covers all, excuses all, and there&#8217;s an end to it.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ (The kafir)</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/11/06/waterboarding-and-hiroshima-why-we-must-lower-ourselves-to-our-enemys-level/#comment-63542</link>
		<author>TJ (The kafir)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>steve in NC,

the human events article was informing and interssting. I will show it to libs who continue to suggest that we are just like the terrorists.  :smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steve in NC,</p>
<p>the human events article was informing and interssting. I will show it to libs who continue to suggest that we are just like the terrorists.  <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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