Comments on: NIE Credibility Crumbling - HAD OPPOSITE CONCLUSION 120 DAYS AGO https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/ Eventually, I learned the joys of killing. But I’m skipping ahead of myself. I landed in Iraq in November 2004 armed with a video camera instead of a weapon... Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:17:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: intrepid https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76869 intrepid Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:52:37 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76869 if it smells like a pig, it's ... :shock: if it smells like a pig, it’s … :shock:

]]> By: Jim https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76873 Jim Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:55:35 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76873 U.S. Intel Possibly Duped By Iran http://www.aina.org/news/20071205100004.htm U.S. Intel Possibly Duped By Iran

http://www.aina.org/news/20071205100004.htm

]]> By: Jim https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76875 Jim Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:57:10 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76875 U.S. report finds U.S. intel consistently wrong on China buildup http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2007/ea_china_11_21.asp U.S. report finds U.S. intel consistently wrong on China buildup

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2007/ea_china_11_21.asp

]]> By: Jim https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76877 Jim Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:01:28 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76877 Intel Author Said Iran Was Pursuing Nukes!?! Earlier this summer, the author of the most recent National Intelligence Estimate which said Iran had shelved its nuclear weapons program testified that the Islamic republic was indeed pursuing atomic bombs. Deputy Director of Analysis Thomas Fingar, in testimony before the House Armed Services Committee July 11, said "Iran and North Korea are the states of most concern to us," adding, "The United States' concerns about Iran are shared by many nations, including many of Iran's neighbors." Specifically, Mr. Fingar testified that "Iran is continuing to pursue uranium enrichment and has shown more interest in protracting negotiations and working to delay and diminish the impact of UNSC sanctions than in reaching an acceptable diplomatic solution," according to a partial transcript published on the Weekly Standard magazine's Web site. "We assess that Tehran is determined to develop nuclear weapons--despite its international obligations and international pressure," Mr. Fingar testified. That paragraph appeared under the subheading: "Iran Assessed As Determined to Develop Nuclear Weapons," the magazine said. No part of that segment is consistent with an NIE assessment published this week that said U.S. intelligence agencies judge Iran suspended its atomic weapons program in 2003. The inconsistencies are more troubling when we realize that, according to the Wall Street Journal, Thomas Fingar is one of the three officials who were responsible for crafting the latest NIE. The Journal cites "an intelligence source" as describing Fingar and his two colleagues as "hyper-partisan anti-Bush officials." Intel Author Said Iran Was Pursuing Nukes!?!

Earlier this summer, the author of the most recent National Intelligence Estimate which said Iran had shelved its nuclear weapons program testified that the Islamic republic was indeed pursuing atomic bombs.

Deputy Director of Analysis Thomas Fingar, in testimony before the House Armed Services Committee July 11, said “Iran and North Korea are the states of most concern to us,” adding, “The United States’ concerns about Iran are shared by many nations, including many of Iran’s neighbors.”

Specifically, Mr. Fingar testified that “Iran is continuing to pursue uranium enrichment and has shown more interest in protracting negotiations and working to delay and diminish the impact of UNSC sanctions than in reaching an acceptable diplomatic solution,” according to a partial transcript published on the Weekly Standard magazine’s Web site.

“We assess that Tehran is determined to develop nuclear weapons–despite its international obligations and international pressure,” Mr. Fingar testified.

That paragraph appeared under the subheading: “Iran Assessed As Determined to Develop Nuclear Weapons,” the magazine said.

No part of that segment is consistent with an NIE assessment published this week that said U.S. intelligence agencies judge Iran suspended its atomic weapons program in 2003.

The inconsistencies are more troubling when we realize that, according to the Wall Street Journal, Thomas Fingar is one of the three officials who were responsible for crafting the latest NIE.

The Journal cites “an intelligence source” as describing Fingar and his two colleagues as “hyper-partisan anti-Bush officials.”

]]> By: Jim https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76885 Jim Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:08:58 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76885 Thomas Fingar and the scary new day in US intelligence work "Happily, the severity of specific threats to our nation, our values, our system of government, and our way of life Thomas Fingar, while Acting Assistant Secretary of State for Intelligence And Research, speaking before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearing on current and projected national security threats to U.S., February 2001 http://pundita.blogspot.com/2007/12/yikes-thomas-fingar-one-of-three-main.html Thomas Fingar and the scary new day in US intelligence work

“Happily, the severity of specific threats to our nation, our values, our system of government, and our way of life

Thomas Fingar, while Acting Assistant Secretary of State for Intelligence And Research, speaking before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearing on current and projected national security threats to U.S., February 2001

http://pundita.blogspot.com/2007/12/yikes-thomas-fingar-one-of-three-main.html

]]> By: LowNslow https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76908 LowNslow Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:24:09 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76908 :idea: The Paul Pillars', three NIE Stooges, and nameless other 5TH Column members continue to work against this country. To undercut your country due to BDS shows an out of control State and CIA are. :idea: The Paul Pillars’, three NIE Stooges, and nameless other 5TH Column members continue to work against this country.

To undercut your country due to BDS shows an out of control State and CIA are.

]]> By: Jarhead68 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76933 Jarhead68 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:25:49 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76933 If it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck...it's a rat. These three stooges have to be interoggated post haste. Waterboarding comes to mind. :twisted: :evil: If it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck…it’s a rat. These three stooges have to be interoggated post haste. Waterboarding comes to mind. :twisted: :evil:

]]> By: martymar https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76941 martymar Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:51:55 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76941 One interesting point overlooked. Iran is calling this a "victory" over america. Didn't Iran deny the fact that it had a nuclear weapons program from the beginning. That it was a purely peaceful energy program. This report clearly admits that they did, and still have a nuclear weapons program. I mean you can't halt something that never existed right? So with the Muchkin King going on TV and saying this is a "victory" he is publicly admitting he has a weapons program and is throwing it in our faces. Basically saying that there is nothing we can do about it because he can have the dems and the lib media wrapped around his crooked, shit smelling fingers. I know some Fire Controlmen (Navy button pushers that fire tomahawks and shit like that) that would love to send a few downrange at him. One interesting point overlooked. Iran is calling this a “victory” over america. Didn’t Iran deny the fact that it had a nuclear weapons program from the beginning. That it was a purely peaceful energy program. This report clearly admits that they did, and still have a nuclear weapons program. I mean you can’t halt something that never existed right? So with the Muchkin King going on TV and saying this is a “victory” he is publicly admitting he has a weapons program and is throwing it in our faces. Basically saying that there is nothing we can do about it because he can have the dems and the lib media wrapped around his crooked, shit smelling fingers.

I know some Fire Controlmen (Navy button pushers that fire tomahawks and shit like that) that would love to send a few downrange at him.

]]> By: Kevin https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76948 Kevin Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:15:45 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76948 This report is B.S.!! :mad: This report is B.S.!! :mad:

]]> By: LftBhndAgn https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76993 LftBhndAgn Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:06:46 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-76993 Bash - I feel this picture fits in just fine for when you do an update. http://chromatism.net/current/images/moemoh.jpg And this one http://www.hotmoviesale.com/dvds/57/1/Three-Stooges-All-The-Worlds-A-Stooge.jpg Bash -

I feel this picture fits in just fine for when you do an update.

http://chromatism.net/current/images/moemoh.jpg

And this one

http://www.hotmoviesale.com/dvds/57/1/Three-Stooges-All-The-Worlds-A-Stooge.jpg

]]> By: John Cunningham https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-77000 John Cunningham Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:12:18 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-77000 Boy, the people you run into when you don't have a gun. Boy, the people you run into when you don’t have a gun.

]]> By: Lamplighter https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-77028 Lamplighter Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:38:48 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-77028 Bash laid out the details and it doesn't add up. It's a political document, and an embarassment. NIE stands for National Inept Embarassment. Bash laid out the details and it doesn’t add up. It’s a political document, and an embarassment. NIE stands for National Inept Embarassment.

]]> By: Achmed the Dead Terrorist https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-77340 Achmed the Dead Terrorist Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:19:20 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-77340 Silence.....I Kill you! You have always been misinformed about Iran, they are a peaceful people and only want to develop Nuclear power for Electricity. They are not pursuing nuclear bombs...... BULL SHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I freakin' hate the people of the world who constantly say death to America. We need to introduce them to their 72 virgins! Silence…..I Kill you!

You have always been misinformed about Iran, they are a peaceful people and only want to develop Nuclear power for Electricity. They are not pursuing nuclear bombs……

BULL SHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I freakin’ hate the people of the world who constantly say death to America. We need to introduce them to their 72 virgins!

]]> By: TJ (The kafir) https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-77346 TJ (The kafir) Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:26:51 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/05/is-suspect-intel-the-source-for-the-nie-report/#comment-77346 I forget who said this but I believe it was a politician who said their are three stages to fulfill in order to be making nukes: 1. enriching uranium (iran admits to this) 2. developing missile technology to deploy such weapons( the NIE file doesnt deny this is happening) 3. Actually constructing the bombs themselves. The Nie report only alludes to number 3 and this could be true. So what, building the bomb is easy once you have the uranium enriched and the missile system to deploy such weapons. therefore, despite this report being by a bunch of lefties, and lefty news outlets reporting on it, what can be gleaned from the report is not the way the headlines are reporting it Iran is still a threat, and given the things that Imadinnerjacket has said about isreal etc, we can conclude that they could begin assembly at any time! :idea: I forget who said this but I believe it was a politician who said their are three stages to fulfill in order to be making nukes: 1. enriching uranium (iran admits to this) 2. developing missile technology to deploy such weapons( the NIE file doesnt deny this is happening) 3. Actually constructing the bombs themselves. The Nie report only alludes to number 3 and this could be true. So what, building the bomb is easy once you have the uranium enriched and the missile system to deploy such weapons. therefore, despite this report being by a bunch of lefties, and lefty news outlets reporting on it, what can be gleaned from the report is not the way the headlines are reporting it Iran is still a threat, and given the things that Imadinnerjacket has said about isreal etc, we can conclude that they could begin assembly at any time! :idea:

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