Comments on: Mainstream Media’s REFUSAL To Acknowledge Success Of The Surge https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/06/mainstream-medias-refusal-to-acknowledge-success-of-the-surge/ Eventually, I learned the joys of killing. But I’m skipping ahead of myself. I landed in Iraq in November 2004 armed with a video camera instead of a weapon... Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:00:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: warhawk https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/06/mainstream-medias-refusal-to-acknowledge-success-of-the-surge/#comment-77614 warhawk Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:20:19 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/06/mainstream-medias-refusal-to-acknowledge-success-of-the-surge/#comment-77614 There's a reason that I havent watched the news on TV in almost a year now, and this article pretty much summed up why. There’s a reason that I havent watched the news on TV in almost a year now, and this article pretty much summed up why.

]]> By: deathstar https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/06/mainstream-medias-refusal-to-acknowledge-success-of-the-surge/#comment-77629 deathstar Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:55:13 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/06/mainstream-medias-refusal-to-acknowledge-success-of-the-surge/#comment-77629 Like warhawk, I havent watched TV news for a long time. Further more, the biased OIF coverage by the MSM has been a real eye opener, I was allways aware of the anti-American, left wing bias in our newspapers and on the tube but I never appreciated how virulent and pervasive it was. Combine that with studies that show that greater than 90% of media people in the US and liberals/Democrats and I will probably never return to the MSM as a source of news. In some ways the shit coverage of the liberation of Iraq has been a good thing, I think it has been a wake up call for many Americans. Its probably why mainstream newspaper circulation is in the crapper, hollywood is tanking and FOX is the number one cable channel. Fuck you you lefty journos, you may have killed off your profession. Dont worry, I dont think McDonalds will hold a journalism school diploma against you. Like warhawk, I havent watched TV news for a long time. Further more, the biased OIF coverage by the MSM has been a real eye opener, I was allways aware of the anti-American, left wing bias in our newspapers and on the tube but I never appreciated how virulent and pervasive it was. Combine that with studies that show that greater than 90% of media people in the US and liberals/Democrats and I will probably never return to the MSM as a source of news. In some ways the shit coverage of the liberation of Iraq has been a good thing, I think it has been a wake up call for many Americans. Its probably why mainstream newspaper circulation is in the crapper, hollywood is tanking and FOX is the number one cable channel. Fuck you you lefty journos, you may have killed off your profession. Dont worry, I dont think McDonalds will hold a journalism school diploma against you.

]]> By: Dave https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/06/mainstream-medias-refusal-to-acknowledge-success-of-the-surge/#comment-77695 Dave Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:10:10 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/06/mainstream-medias-refusal-to-acknowledge-success-of-the-surge/#comment-77695 I watch Fox! I watch Fox!

]]> By: Poolee0311 (the infidel) https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/06/mainstream-medias-refusal-to-acknowledge-success-of-the-surge/#comment-77712 Poolee0311 (the infidel) Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:36:11 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/06/mainstream-medias-refusal-to-acknowledge-success-of-the-surge/#comment-77712 I come here for news. Fuck the MSM. They ain't fit to lick my boots. I come here for news. Fuck the MSM. They ain’t fit to lick my boots.

]]> By: Brian H https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/06/mainstream-medias-refusal-to-acknowledge-success-of-the-surge/#comment-78113 Brian H Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:28:10 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/06/mainstream-medias-refusal-to-acknowledge-success-of-the-surge/#comment-78113 death; The remaining talking-points emphasize that 2007 is certain to have the highest US hostile casualty/KIA total of the OIF. However ... As we know, statistics are very sensitive to start-stop points and so on. So from the data we have, how about a comparison by half-year? Start with either Jan. '03 or March '03. 6 months ending: Calendar | From Onset 2003/06 134 | 2003/08 178 2003/12 189 | 2004/02 196 2004/06 311 | 2004/08 359 2004/12 408 | 2005/02 405 2005/06 309 | 2005/08 333 2005/12 367 | 2006/02 335 2006/06 293 | 2006/08 301 2006/12 410 | 2007/02 463 2007/06 529 | 2007/08 502 2007/12 226 | 2008/02 104 (to date) Total: 3176 3176 6-mo. Ave: 317.6 Ist half of year averages: 315.2 | 334.6 2nd half of year averages: 320 | 300.6 6-mo averages excluding '07: ~303 | ~321 1st half excluding '07: ~262 | ~293 2nd half excluding '07/'08 ~344 | ~350 So: the 1st half of calendar '07 exceeded the previous average by ~267. The second half is, so far, below the average by ~118; there is the rest of December to make up the difference. Any shortfall will represent a 6-mo total below the average of the 2nd halves of the year. Compared to the previous overall 6 mo. average, the 6-mo calender 2nd half of '07 is 92 lower. For the 6-month periods since onset, there is longer to make up in the final period, but the 1st half of '07/08 is ~209 above the previous averages. The second half is 246 below the previous average, with about 3 months to make up the difference. If the current total (last 3 months ) doubles, the total will be 208, 142 below the previous 2nd half average. If the ~29/month number from Oct/Nov holds, the total will be 187, or 163 below the previous average. So two opposing predictions come out of this. If you believe this is a fluke, not a trend, you need 118 more fatalities in December, or 246 before the end of February to bring the current 6-month averages up to snuff. If you believe the numbers show a trend, you'd expect about 20 more fatalities by the end of December, and perhaps 40 more total by the end of February. So the differences in predictions are: anti-liberationists need 118 combat deaths by the end of December; liberationists expect no more than 20, a difference of 98. Anti-liberationists need 246 US combat deaths by the end of February to bring things back on track, and liberationists expect no more than 40, for a difference of 206. Place yer bets, ladies and gentlebongs! death;
The remaining talking-points emphasize that 2007 is certain to have the highest US hostile casualty/KIA total of the OIF. However …

As we know, statistics are very sensitive to start-stop points and so on. So from the data we have, how about a comparison by half-year? Start with either Jan. ‘03 or March ‘03.
6 months ending:
Calendar | From Onset
2003/06 134 | 2003/08 178
2003/12 189 | 2004/02 196
2004/06 311 | 2004/08 359
2004/12 408 | 2005/02 405
2005/06 309 | 2005/08 333
2005/12 367 | 2006/02 335
2006/06 293 | 2006/08 301
2006/12 410 | 2007/02 463
2007/06 529 | 2007/08 502
2007/12 226 | 2008/02 104 (to date)
Total: 3176 3176
6-mo. Ave: 317.6

Ist half of year averages:
315.2 | 334.6

2nd half of year averages:
320 | 300.6

6-mo averages excluding ‘07:
~303 | ~321

1st half excluding ‘07:
~262 | ~293

2nd half excluding ‘07/’08
~344 | ~350

So: the 1st half of calendar ‘07 exceeded the previous average by ~267. The second half is, so far, below the average by ~118; there is the rest of December to make up the difference. Any shortfall will represent a 6-mo total below the average of the 2nd halves of the year. Compared to the previous overall 6 mo. average, the 6-mo calender 2nd half of ‘07 is 92 lower.

For the 6-month periods since onset, there is longer to make up in the final period, but the 1st half of ‘07/08 is ~209 above the previous averages. The second half is 246 below the previous average, with about 3 months to make up the difference. If the current total (last 3 months ) doubles, the total will be 208, 142 below the previous 2nd half average. If the ~29/month number from Oct/Nov holds, the total will be 187, or 163 below the previous average.

So two opposing predictions come out of this.

If you believe this is a fluke, not a trend, you need 118 more fatalities in December, or 246 before the end of February to bring the current 6-month averages up to snuff.

If you believe the numbers show a trend, you’d expect about 20 more fatalities by the end of December, and perhaps 40 more total by the end of February.

So the differences in predictions are: anti-liberationists need 118 combat deaths by the end of December; liberationists expect no more than 20, a difference of 98.

Anti-liberationists need 246 US combat deaths by the end of February to bring things back on track, and liberationists expect no more than 40, for a difference of 206.

Place yer bets, ladies and gentlebongs!

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