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	<title>Comments on: Lockheed Martin Unveils F-35B Lightning II - First STOVL Stealth Fighter</title>
	<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/</link>
	<description>Eventually, I learned the joys of killing. But I’m skipping ahead of myself. I landed in Iraq in November 2004 armed with a video camera instead of a weapon...</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Egfrow</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84025</link>
		<author>Egfrow</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The heart of the F-35B is a STOVL propulsion system comprising the most powerful engine ever flown in a jet fighter?

...and we are selling it to the People's Republic of Italy? I don't get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The heart of the F-35B is a STOVL propulsion system comprising the most powerful engine ever flown in a jet fighter?</p>
<p>&#8230;and we are selling it to the People&#8217;s Republic of Italy? I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: EZ Rider</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84084</link>
		<author>EZ Rider</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>We're not selling it. Lockheed is selling it. The F-35 isn't that great of a fighter anyway. It's a multi-purpose platform set to replace the aging F/A-18. The real fighter of the USA is the F-22. The military forbids foreign sales of the F-22 because it is the most advanced figher in the world. The F-22 is our tactical edge, the F-35 is a multi-use platform that we can share with the world. Brings some more money into the America enconomy too. Hurray Capitalism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re not selling it. Lockheed is selling it. The F-35 isn&#8217;t that great of a fighter anyway. It&#8217;s a multi-purpose platform set to replace the aging F/A-18. The real fighter of the USA is the F-22. The military forbids foreign sales of the F-22 because it is the most advanced figher in the world. The F-22 is our tactical edge, the F-35 is a multi-use platform that we can share with the world. Brings some more money into the America enconomy too. Hurray Capitalism!</p>
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		<title>By: LftBhndAgn</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84088</link>
		<author>LftBhndAgn</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84088</guid>
					<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6WFyNMnFgI

F35 Lightning II Flight Testing and STOVL Capabilities</description>
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<p>F35 Lightning II Flight Testing and STOVL Capabilities</p>
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		<title>By: KBoomr113</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84096</link>
		<author>KBoomr113</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The F-35 is low cost (compared to the F-22) and multi role, which makes it desirable in a world with tightening budgets.  I just don't know how the Navy or Marine Corps is going to keep a stealth jet flying when each scratch in the paint will destealth it and will take it offline for up to a week.  besides, the salt water will corrode the shit out of that paint too. They should probably make a non stealth version for them...thats not me talking, thats an engineer friend of mine that is currently working on the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The F-35 is low cost (compared to the F-22) and multi role, which makes it desirable in a world with tightening budgets.  I just don&#8217;t know how the Navy or Marine Corps is going to keep a stealth jet flying when each scratch in the paint will destealth it and will take it offline for up to a week.  besides, the salt water will corrode the shit out of that paint too. They should probably make a non stealth version for them&#8230;thats not me talking, thats an engineer friend of mine that is currently working on the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan (The Infidel)</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84109</link>
		<author>Dan (The Infidel)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Replacing the A-10? I don't think so. I'd rather have an A-1 Sandy instaed of the F-35 if that statement is true. Or give them to the Army. Eliminate the A-10? Really stupid idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replacing the A-10? I don&#8217;t think so. I&#8217;d rather have an A-1 Sandy instaed of the F-35 if that statement is true. Or give them to the Army. Eliminate the A-10? Really stupid idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84122</link>
		<author>Jay</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Proud to say "I am helping bring this aircraft to our Forces!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proud to say &#8220;I am helping bring this aircraft to our Forces!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tedders</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84129</link>
		<author>tedders</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"The F-35 isn’t that great of a fighter anyway"

Where did you get your aerospace engineering degree? The F-35, while not the overwhelming superior aircraft that the F-22 is at least it isn't cost prohibitive as the F-22, the f-35 is still hands down superior to any other aircraft in the world it could come up against. The JSF stands for Joint Strike Fighter. It is an American and Nato alliance made aircraft. Multiple nations are involved in design and manufacturing of components.  The JSF is jointly funded by the United States, United Kingdom, Italy, The Netherlands, Canada, Norway, Denmark, Australia and Turkey (does that answer your question Egfrow?). Lockheed is NOT selling an American plane to the People Republic of anything. Lockheed was awarded the contract to build this plane for these NATO allies funded by those Nato Allies. The F-35 outperforms the F-16 in it's roles and the A-10 in it's roles, an amazing feat to say the least. This will be a plane that will be in the service of the US navy, air force, marine corps and the United Kingdom along with the rest of the Nato allies listed, a single aircraft has never had so many different roles. To say the F-35 isn't a great fighter is myopic at best, I won't say what it is at worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The F-35 isn’t that great of a fighter anyway&#8221;</p>
<p>Where did you get your aerospace engineering degree? The F-35, while not the overwhelming superior aircraft that the F-22 is at least it isn&#8217;t cost prohibitive as the F-22, the f-35 is still hands down superior to any other aircraft in the world it could come up against. The JSF stands for Joint Strike Fighter. It is an American and Nato alliance made aircraft. Multiple nations are involved in design and manufacturing of components.  The JSF is jointly funded by the United States, United Kingdom, Italy, The Netherlands, Canada, Norway, Denmark, Australia and Turkey (does that answer your question Egfrow?). Lockheed is NOT selling an American plane to the People Republic of anything. Lockheed was awarded the contract to build this plane for these NATO allies funded by those Nato Allies. The F-35 outperforms the F-16 in it&#8217;s roles and the A-10 in it&#8217;s roles, an amazing feat to say the least. This will be a plane that will be in the service of the US navy, air force, marine corps and the United Kingdom along with the rest of the Nato allies listed, a single aircraft has never had so many different roles. To say the F-35 isn&#8217;t a great fighter is myopic at best, I won&#8217;t say what it is at worst.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84161</link>
		<author>Jay</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84161</guid>
					<description>Dan 
Doubt they just mothball the A10...it's got another 20  years left in her per this article.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/08/29/216249/us-air-force-may-extend-fairchild-a-10-life-beyond-2028.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan<br />
Doubt they just mothball the A10&#8230;it&#8217;s got another 20  years left in her per this article.<br />
<a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/08/29/216249/us-air-force-may-extend-fairchild-a-10-life-beyond-2028.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/08/29/216249/us-air-force-may-extend-fairchild-a-10-life-beyond-2028.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan (The Infidel)</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84208</link>
		<author>Dan (The Infidel)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84208</guid>
					<description>@Jay:

I was under the same impression, that's why I made the comment. Frankly, I'd shitcan the F-35 in favor of the F-22 and more bombers. I wish the AF would focus in on the war a little more. Right now we need bombs and bullets. Better bombs, and more of them. We need more bombers to support the warfighter on the ground.

If I was an FO on the ground I'd much rather have an A-10 respond to a danger close mission than an F-35.

I don't mind opening up new technology vistas. I just think that the services spend too much money on toys and too little money on the tools we need right now to fight this war.

Give me MRAP II's, a better M-16 round, more armor-piercing ammo, more sniper rifles, more COIN training, more M-1's, more personnel, more helicopters, more replacement parts.
Replace Guard losses and build them back up to what they were back at home station. More money for recruiting...more bonuses, more EOD people, more Engineer vehicles more and better IED detection equipment. More money for training. Finish BRAC. 

Give me their fucking budget and I'll show you a better way.
Because ALL of my priority items would be warfighter first, and future shit last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jay:</p>
<p>I was under the same impression, that&#8217;s why I made the comment. Frankly, I&#8217;d shitcan the F-35 in favor of the F-22 and more bombers. I wish the AF would focus in on the war a little more. Right now we need bombs and bullets. Better bombs, and more of them. We need more bombers to support the warfighter on the ground.</p>
<p>If I was an FO on the ground I&#8217;d much rather have an A-10 respond to a danger close mission than an F-35.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind opening up new technology vistas. I just think that the services spend too much money on toys and too little money on the tools we need right now to fight this war.</p>
<p>Give me MRAP II&#8217;s, a better M-16 round, more armor-piercing ammo, more sniper rifles, more COIN training, more M-1&#8217;s, more personnel, more helicopters, more replacement parts.<br />
Replace Guard losses and build them back up to what they were back at home station. More money for recruiting&#8230;more bonuses, more EOD people, more Engineer vehicles more and better IED detection equipment. More money for training. Finish BRAC. </p>
<p>Give me their fucking budget and I&#8217;ll show you a better way.<br />
Because ALL of my priority items would be warfighter first, and future shit last.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84276</link>
		<author>Joe</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Dan, 
With all due respect. The future shit is what keeps our war fighters FIRST.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,<br />
With all due respect. The future shit is what keeps our war fighters FIRST.</p>
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		<title>By: tedders</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84279</link>
		<author>tedders</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2007/12/18/lockheed-martin-unveils-f-35b-lightning-ii-first-stovl-stealth-fighter/#comment-84279</guid>
					<description>"Proud to say “I am helping bring this aircraft to our Forces!”

Hey Jay, Are you directly involved in bringing the JSF to our forces? Lockheed Martin Fort Worth employee? Just curious, that's where I live, many of my friends work there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Proud to say “I am helping bring this aircraft to our Forces!”</p>
<p>Hey Jay, Are you directly involved in bringing the JSF to our forces? Lockheed Martin Fort Worth employee? Just curious, that&#8217;s where I live, many of my friends work there.</p>
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