Hey! Republican Voters: Seeking Your Opinion
Let’s say your choice for President doesn’t get the nomination…
Will you simply back the “R” candidate, whoever it turns out to be, no matter what?
Why/Why Not?
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the WORST republican candidate is still better than ANY of the socialist-incompetent democrat candidates (ron paul excluded for being a nut-ball)
January 7th, 2008 at 11:30 amI’m kind of with Caligula there. I’m not rich by far, but this country runs as a meritocracy, not a socialist state and you’re not entitled to anything but protection under the government. I am, however distressed at the trend of our civil liberties being one by one stripped away.
my top choice would definitely be McCain…other than that i’m at a loss…
January 7th, 2008 at 11:36 am@Caligula,
yep.
January 7th, 2008 at 11:36 am@Caligula
January 7th, 2008 at 11:39 amroger that
No. I feel that it’s ethically irresponsible to vote AGAINST a candidate, instead of for one that you respect. For a recent history lesson, look at Iran. they voted for a guy who’s entire platform was “I’m not like the Shahs!” Annnnnd they got fucked.
Now, for the real winner. The American Democratic Party, and the US Congress. Just about every dems platform was ‘I’M NOT A REPUBLICAN!” and the contest was simply who was the LEAST republican. Look what they’ve accomplished; even their own political base can’t stand them.
It’s not wrong to not vote at all, so long as the choice to not do so is a well thought out decision. I won’t be voting, I’m sure, because the candidate I favor, and would be willing to admit that I voted for, is not going to get the nomination.
January 7th, 2008 at 11:42 am1
With one exception, I would probably even vote for John Edwards over Ron Paul (you must understand I hate Edwards more then any other Democratic candidate)…..because 4 years of any of Demorats could very well inspire another Republican Revolution. However Ron Paul would be the political equivilent of Cyanide for this country.
January 7th, 2008 at 11:44 amActually, I have another question:
If Hillary loses the nomination, will she support Obama, or will she work behind the scenes to destroy him in the general election???
January 7th, 2008 at 11:45 amFaith of Judas,
thats a fair statement, but i must ask… would you risk allowing a Marxist or a Communist to win the presidency, simply because your candidate didn’t get the nomination?
it is right to not vote, but i must also bring up the quote;
“all that is required for evil to conquer is that good men do nothing”
January 7th, 2008 at 11:46 am“thats a fair statement, but i must ask… would you risk allowing a Marxist or a Communist to win the presidency, simply because your candidate didn’t get the nomination?”
Yes. That’s what the 2nd Amendment is for.
January 7th, 2008 at 11:53 amAs long as Ron Paul does not get the Republican Nomination, I will still vote Republican.
The main sticking point for me is foreign policy (war policy).
Ron Paul has said many times that he does not feel that is any acceptable reason for war.
At least the front running Dems admit that there are some times the need. Granted I believe when they would admit is the time for war it is to late.
For everything else I would hope our Republican Senators and such would be able to stop some of the other items I do not like that Dems want (socialized medicine).
But luckily we do not have to worry about Ron Paul getting the Republican nomination. So I can say with certainty that I will be voting Republican no matter what in the General Election.
January 7th, 2008 at 11:57 amYes. i would back a GOP candidate no matter what. Anyone on the stage except for Ron paul. The rest are all decent choices
Call me irresponsible if you want to but i wouldnt vote for a democrat if hell froze over. So i would definitely back any Republican except Ron Paul.
January 7th, 2008 at 12:03 pmNO DEMS EVER!
January 7th, 2008 at 12:06 pmNegative…
I will not vote for any candidate I don’t like………
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” Thomas Jefferson
January 7th, 2008 at 12:07 pmIf Thompson gets the nod, I am gold as that’s my guy.
Any of the others (except Paul), I hold my nose and pull the lever.
Paul gets nomination, I buy a shit load of ammo and hope 2012 gets here quickly because either way (Paul or a dem) the country is fucked and not in a small way.
January 7th, 2008 at 12:07 pmIf McCain doesn’t win, I’m going to focus on stocking up on ammunition and preparing the for the hell to follow because I don’t think any other republican candidate can defeat the democrats in the general election.
January 7th, 2008 at 12:09 pmAbout the only way I’d vote against a GOP candidate is if he was Ron Paul, and that’s mainly because Leiberman, about the only Dem with national fame I had respect for was thrown out of the party. There is no moderate wing of the Democratic party anymore. There’s only the socialists and the full blown communists, differing only in degree, not kind. Even Huck is preferable to any Dem running for the White House.
January 7th, 2008 at 12:18 pm“The rest are all decent choices”
January 7th, 2008 at 12:19 pmIf you believe that, then you’re not being irresponsible at all.
in order of whom i’d vote for;
Thompson
January 7th, 2008 at 12:29 pmRomney
Guliani
McCain
Fuckabee
I’ll cross party lines before I vote for Huckabee. If we’re going to have a liberal in the White House, I want the Dems to get the blame, and I want Republicans in Congress to fight him/her tooth and nail. They won’t do that if the President is Republican too. And a vote for Huckabee is essentially a vote for Jimmy Carter’s second term. Having lived through the first, I just can’t do it.
The other GOP frontrunners (excepting Fred! who is the only one I can vote for wholeheartedly) are pretty liberal but each has one redeeming factor, so I can probably pull the lever for any one of them.
January 7th, 2008 at 12:30 pmwell actually McCain might be last right now… his comments on undermining the pharmaceutical companies over the weekend is scary
i’m in the industry… profits drive R&D, R&D saves lives… the cost is paid somewhere and the free market regulates the price
when governments start messing with the economy bad things happen. there’s a scary trend in this country to believe that healthcare is a right that by being born all men have…
don’t remember reading that in the declaration.
we don’t deserve to eat simply by being alive, so why should we deserve healthcare/pharmaceutical care? all we deserve is the right to work hard and provide both for ouselves…
McCain not understanding that - doesn’t understand conservatism, freedom, or capitalism…
January 7th, 2008 at 12:34 pmLook the bottom line is this if we elect a liberal like Huck the Dems get what they want and the Republicans in Congress will not do a thing to stop Huck. If we (not me) elect Clinton the Dems still get what they want but this time (I hope) the Republicans will fight her tooth and nail. In two years (I hope) we get a chance to elect more Republicans to congress. Then at the end of the 1st term of Clinton we finely (I hope) get a conservative to run for President. If we take Huck we are screwed big time! I voted for the only conservative on the ticket Duncan Hunter. I will stay at home and not vote if I have to vote for a liberal Republican! We have to send a message to the Republican party no more liberal pukes!!!
January 7th, 2008 at 12:38 pmI watched Billary answering questions in a forum, then watched the GOP & Dem facebook debate. I came away with this objective impression: the GOP candidates gave concrete, nailed down specific answers. Any of them that participated could handle the job. They are asked harder questions. The Dems are asked mostly easier questions, and when they talk, it’s all ephemeral, like trying to grasp clouds. I guess that’s what plays in the Dem party. At any rate, Billary was by far the the smarted Dem, and she actually tried to bring them to earth a few times, with realistic answers (even tho I disagree). She’s the only Dem with minimal qualifications. When she knows a subject, she gives good answers. When she doesn’t, she floats a lot of bull. Obama is charming and a good cheerleader, but his lack of experience, especially in military/international/economic affairs is scary. I’ll vote for whichever GOP candidate is picked.
January 7th, 2008 at 12:41 pmGotta go with Caligula.
January 7th, 2008 at 12:45 pmAfter Fred and Duncan drop out(IF they do),
I’d hold my nose and pull the lever for Rudy or Mitt.
ALL the others can suck my dick.
January 7th, 2008 at 12:58 pmI’m a capitalist, so realizing that we live in a capitalist society I understand that the greatest threat to capitalism isn’t an outside socialist force, it’s other greedy, powerful, capitalists who manipulate the market for their own gains. The market isn’t dictating the prices of pharmaceutical goods, its corporate greed. Believing that hardwork alone will grant you the ability to take care of your family medically is a blind, self destructive delusion. Healthcare needs to be affordable because if I have a child with cancer and then I get laid off from a job, I want to be able to save the life of my son or daughter, not be held hostage by an ignorant rhetoric that places absolute laissez-faire capitalism above the good of the people. That being said, I am absolutely a capitalist, I believe in hardwork and the freedom to design my own destiny according to God’s will, to own and operate my own company as I see fit, but not at the expense of those who work for me or those who consume my product, and I am not blind to the fact that rich men like to get richer, no matter who gets in the way. Government is meant to protect us, it is a social contract between citizens and their elected officials to provide for LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. Whether its a foreign power, NGO, IGO, MNC, or domestic corporation that interferes with that, it should be addressed by what is in the best interest of the people, not what is in the best interest of the guy at the top.
January 7th, 2008 at 12:58 pmParty trumps person.
January 7th, 2008 at 1:05 pmI will NEVER support a Democrat.
If we nominate someone like Huckabee or worse, Ron Paul, I will not vote for anyone.
I cannot select someone who I believe will make the problems worse.
January 7th, 2008 at 1:06 pmI the nominate Ron Paul or Huckabee I will not vote for President.
January 7th, 2008 at 1:18 pmSORRY PARTY DOES NOT TRUMP PERSON IF THE PERSON IS JUST AS BAD AS THE DEM THEY ARE RUNNING AGAINST. TO HELL WITH THE PARTY THAT GOES LEFT!!
January 7th, 2008 at 1:20 pmFred
Mitt
Rudy
McCain (maybe)
No Huck Finn, not ever… Would rather have a democrat f’ing up the country…
January 7th, 2008 at 1:20 pmI would rather die than vote for a Democrat (and I don’t consider Liebermann a Democrat) and I would rather die than not vote. There are too many men who have died to ensure we have a democracy. I will not sit idly by on my couch while a bunch of other fuckwits decide the fate of my country.
That being said, at this point, I don’t know who I support, though I know who I don’t …
Those people include:
Ron Paul (who the hell is this guy?)
Mike Chucklefuck (you watch — he’ll take away our donuts and good, carb-filled beer to make us all skinny like him)
John McCain (I’ve watched too many years of him sidling up to Hillary Clinton on the Senate Armed Forces Committee for him to have my respect)
As long as none of them get the nomination, I’m okay.
Other than that? I’m starting to think I agree with the masses that I, A: Need to prepare for a Zombie Apocalypse, and therefore B: need to stockpile my ammo.
January 7th, 2008 at 1:25 pmBefore you commit to not voting at all, look at a picture of the members of the supreme court and ask yourself how many of the old farts are going to be replaced in the next four years and do you really want any Democrat to make that appointment. I THINK NOT!!! GO VOTE!
January 7th, 2008 at 1:25 pmThe only Dem I would consider for POTUS is Lieberman. And he isn’t running. So in all other cases I’d vote Republican.
January 7th, 2008 at 1:28 pmNo chance on Rhue Paul getting elected…so any Republican is better than any Dhimi.
Hmm, I would vote for (D)Zell Miller…Ever since I saw him threaten to kick Chris Mathews ass on national TV earned my respect
wrote a book entitled Corps Values: Everything You Need to Know I Learned in the Marines
keynote speaker at the 2004 Republican National Convention.
January 7th, 2008 at 1:31 pm@Bill
Wow you sound pretty ignorant. It is far better in my belief to have a Republican administration fostering mostly republican values than a Democrat in leadership with a Democrat Congress. Even if the candidate is not you favorite pick he cannot stray far from the party path because he would not have the support of his party. To note vote for a Republican would be the same as voting Democrat. It’s a similar idea to the ommission of fact is the same as a lie. And using all CAPITAL LETTERS does not make you sound any smarter either.
January 7th, 2008 at 1:34 pmMike says it better here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1728426/posts
January 7th, 2008 at 1:36 pmI’m with Old11B (none of ‘em deserve my vote if my guy doesn’t get the nomination)…and Trindam, you should check your quotes before you post.
January 7th, 2008 at 1:36 pmIf Huck gets it, I am going to have a very hard time voting (I won’t vote for the Dem, no matter what, but Huck, *shudder.*)
January 7th, 2008 at 1:47 pmMy disgust with the Democrats over the last 8 years will make me vote (R) no matter who it is..Though I have always voted (R), it wasn’t so much because of the party affiliation.
January 7th, 2008 at 1:55 pmSo I guess we settle for a open border, anti-gun liberal republican instead of a open border, anti-gun liberal Dem! What the hell is the difference?? They will appoint the same kind of judges and both will have the support of the Dems! Until we get a real Republican to run we are going to get what we deserve second rate Republicans and that is all we got at the top!
January 7th, 2008 at 2:02 pmGonna pull the lever for old Abe. Not going to consider anyone from the party led by the traitorous neo-coms, not even for dog catcher. From top down, fuck you if you are aligned with the democrat party. I was never this black and white before, but it now feels right. I have never been entirely happy with any candidate I have ever voted for, but I choose to live in the world of reality and will deal with their faults. I have chosen a side, and will stick with it.
And if Ron Paul wins the nomination I will still vote for him, if I have to, to oppose the d’rats.
January 7th, 2008 at 2:14 pmIf either Paul or McCain get the nomination, I will grasp my nostrils tightly between thumb and forefinger and vote the Republican. Should the Huckster get the nod I will still hold my nose but not squeeze all the blood out of it and my finger tips.
Realistically, GOP’s nominee will not be Paul, or Hunter but still possibly McCain, Huckster, Romney, Guiliani, or Thompson.
January 7th, 2008 at 2:17 pmHunter
Thompson
Romney
Gulliani (possibly)
McCain (probably not)
Huckabee (never)
If anyone else gets in, there is no hope left for the open border that we have today. Load the guns and bar the doors (wait, that is how it already is in Texas
). As I have repeatedly stated, the border is part of the global war on terror and President Bush has failed in that part of the war.
Pray for Ramos and Compean - their lives have been ruined . . . President Bush has stabbed them in the back and has sacrificed Texas for some sort of unholy alliance with Mexico.
January 7th, 2008 at 2:18 pmTommy :
“Wow you sound pretty ignorant. It is far better in my belief to have a Republican administration fostering mostly republican values than a Democrat in leadership with a Democrat Congress”
Sounds to me like you should start re-evaluating reality.
Bill is correct.
“So I guess we settle for a open border, anti-gun liberal republican instead of a open border, anti-gun liberal Dem! What the hell is the difference?? They will appoint the same kind of judges and both will have the support of the Dems! Until we get a real Republican to run we are going to get what we deserve second rate Republicans and that is all we got at the top!”
January 7th, 2008 at 2:20 pmBill-
The difference between the two is that those are not the only issues on the table. There is a myriad of issues and while no candidate will satisfy anyone one persons idea of a perfect candidate, it is much more satisfactory to have at least some of our party ideals than none of our party ideals promoted.
January 7th, 2008 at 2:23 pmRon Paul or Huckabee won’t be the nominee.
January 7th, 2008 at 2:26 pmTimes have changed since the Carter years and even when clinton was in.
If a Dem gets in trying to reverse the damage will be impossible even if conservatives win the White House and congress in 2012.
China and India growing economies - Dems get in and raise taxes - instant severe prolonged recession worse than carter years.
Terrorism will get worse - Dems plan hug and sing with Terrorist to get them to like us. Far worse attacks will occur.
Illegals - Amnesty will pass and we will not be able to reverse it.
Far dire problems by having a dem in to “teach those Republicans a lesson” Don’t “cut off your nose to spite your face”. Because your not going to teach them a lesson they will only presume they need to be more liberal to get elected.
I might not be crazy about who will be on the ticket, but a dem will be far worse.
Gop all the way, After the last two failed dem Presidents, how could anyone vote dem.
January 7th, 2008 at 2:29 pmI’m with Caligula.
January 7th, 2008 at 2:46 pmI am voting for the candidate that can best facilitate this comment to “eject, eject, eject’s” post about fourty second boyd.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness…”
Those words are taken from the declaration of Independence To me they are one of the building blocks of our society. But I have always felt, that until the day when those words have meaning for every person on the planet, they are just words. But words are important. They frame ideas. This small piece of a much larger document does not state that only WHITE AMERICAN LAND OWNERS are created equal. They state that ALL men everywhere are created equal. To me this is the bedrock, the foundation on which this country was built.
What business is it of ours if Saddam kills and tortures his own citizens? What business is it of ours if Hitler marches Millions to their deaths in factory killing machines like auschwitz? If we are really Americans, if we truly believe the words on the paper, if we want America to be the place that our forefathers framed, then it will ALWAYS be our business when one man, or group of MEN oppresses another.
Have we been guilty of this? Yes. Are we still guilty of it? Sadly, Yes. BUT the difference between us and every other nation that does it, TODAY is simply this. It sickens those of us that truly call ourselves Americans. We work tirelessly in our own country to end oppression based on race, color creed, sex, or even sexual orientation. We fail miserably sometimes, and sometimes we succeed beyond our wildest dreams. I don’t like Hillary, But I am THRILLED to see a WOMAN run for the most powerful position in our country and be taken seriously. I do not agree with Obama, on a lot of things but I am THRILLED to see some one who is BLACK running for the most powerful position in our country and be taken seriously.
Why should we go to Iraq? For WMD? To remove a Madman from power who used chemical weapons against his own people, something that even HITLER balked at even after he was losing the war? How about this, lets leave the “politicing” aside for a minute. How about because it needed to be done. I don’t need another reason than that. It needed doing. Why? Because of those 35 worst at the top of this post and the hundreds that follow in that document and our constitution. If those words mean anything, FOR those words to really realy Mean ANYTHING, then they have to apply to all men every where. Why us? If not us, then who?, and if not Now, then when? This is not about us cramming our world view down every ones throat, this is about giving people who litteraly have never in their life had a chance at freedom, a chance.
Wether or not the surge works, wether or not democracy grabs hold is the middle east is NOT the metric that we should judge this war by. Its that the people were at least given the oppurtunity to shape their own destiny. Did we do it for our own selfish ends as a lot of the more cynical among us would suppose? Maybe, I’ll concede the possibility but ultimately to the future generations of Iraqis, it will only matter that we did. How they got the chance to be free in a hundred years will not matter to them. That hopefully, they are able to live out their lives not in fear, or in chains, but will be able to live with the same UNALIENABLE Rights that all of us have enjoyed since our first breath in this country.
So when does it end? When will the war and the strife end? When will it cease to be Americas Job to provide the oppurtunity to the people of the world to be free? When we cease to Be Americans. When the dream that was framed by those words finaly dies. That’s when it ceases to be OUR jobs. Job is the wrong word, it is our blessing, our duty, if I may it is our CALLING to provide this oppurtunity to the world. That’s what it really means to be an American. I for one will never forget that. Nor will I let my children forget. The dream, our calling will not die, Not on my watch. To this end I Pledge, my life, my fortune and my sacred honor.
Posted by: chris keith | January 3, 2008 7:28 AM
January 7th, 2008 at 2:55 pm@Caligula
and Kudos to Faith of Judas
“thats a fair statement, but i must ask… would you risk allowing a Marxist or a Communist to win the presidency, simply because your candidate didn’t get the nomination?”
Yes. That’s what the 2nd Amendment is for. 
January 7th, 2008 at 3:12 pmThe only candidate that covers all the right bases both foreign and domestically is Duncan Hunter.
No Amnesty!
Nothing less than VICTORY!!
I will however hold my nose and vote (R) if need be. If for no other reason go back up a couple of posts and reread “fan”’s comments.
January 7th, 2008 at 3:13 pmReminder of what Barak Obama said in New Hampshire about Afganistan last summer:
January 7th, 2008 at 3:18 pm“We’ve to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we’re not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there.”
I just read Laura’s comments - Totally agree regarding Huckabee . . . rather not have another RINO compassionate conservative as president - If we are going to get a liberal president, he has to be a Democrat. I would never vote for Huckabee.
I just read Caligula’s comments - Totally agree regarding McCain . . . He is way too liberal on so many domestic issues.
January 7th, 2008 at 3:44 pmRON PAUL??? FHUGETABOUTIT..
HUNTER or THOMPSON…. ABSOLUTELY NO DUMMICRATS
January 7th, 2008 at 3:55 pmNo dems ever, that includes Ron Paul.
January 7th, 2008 at 4:03 pmFor everyone saying they won’t vote if their one guy, whoever that may be, doesn’t get the nod:
Grow The Fuck Up!
You’re making the perfect the enemy of the good. That never ends well. Usually, it leads to fratricide. Look at the dems.
They all are in a lemming rush to prove how ideologically pure they are. That’s easy for them. Their entire self-image is based almost soley on how anti-Bush/American/capitalist/neo-con or whatever the boogeyman of the hour is.
They define themselves on what they’re against. Most of us define ourselves based on what we’re for. That’s trickier. No two true individuals share exactly the same views or priorities. Party unity is tougher for us.
The modern Republican party is a tripod. There are the social, fiscal, and national security conservatives. Naturally, there’s lots of overlap among the three, but few people value all three equally. Personally, I put national security first, fiscal second, and social third. I might disagree with someone who goes the other way, but I respect their opinion, and hope to be able to meet them halfway (or a quarter of the way, but I’ll take what I can get).
If you take one or two issues, and say anyone who doesn’t agree with you 100 per cent is the enemy, you’re going to be a very lonely person. You’ll also hand victory to the people you disagree with the most.
But hey, you’ll be able to say you were true to your beliefs. No matter that everything you’ve strugglet to build has been torn down and trampled.
The Palestinians were offered 90 per cent of what they wanted. They turned it down. Now, they sit in the cold and dark with empty bellies. But I bet they’d still make the same choice. You can cure ignorance, but you can’t cure stupid.
Go ahead and abandon your friends and allies. But don’t wail, “Where is everybody?” when you face the wolves alone. I’ve offered to help people who then literally spit in my face. I don’t make the same mistake twice.
January 7th, 2008 at 4:06 pm… so long as it isn’t Ron Paul.
January 7th, 2008 at 4:13 pmMy top 3 from a foreign policy standpoint are Romney, Gulliani, Thompson & McCain. It appears Huckabee needs better communication of where he stands… I ‘d like to see all Republican candidates come out and say There will be NO negotiations with terrorists and they are not safe in any country. Give a country actionable intelligence ONCE and if they don’t produce, then don’t ask - just inform as happening - after that. Let each country prove they are on our side. Too bad Bush didn’t stick by his own words - Rice deep sixed him. SHe has been a disaster for US & Israel
January 7th, 2008 at 4:18 pmticticboom:
Your not looking far enough into game. The whole political party system (including the Republicans), has deviated so for to the left and away from the Constitution, that a major correction is required to get back to rationality.
Sometimes you have to rebuild your house to protect yourself from the elements. Sometimes your team has to disperse to regroup in a different Z.
January 7th, 2008 at 4:32 pm@ old11B - your right about the sliding left from the Constitution. I just wonder after the revolution if we will return to the ideals laid out by the founding fathers, or something else. It is coming, but the time is unknown.
January 7th, 2008 at 4:55 pmSteve in NC :
Everything balances out. The Constitution is a true center of gravity
January 7th, 2008 at 5:05 pm@old11B:
As emotionally satisfying it would be to tear everything down, we haven’t reached that point where it’s necessary yet, and it may never come to that. It’d be a messy business, and would distract us from threats in other parts of the world.
Life is all about priorities. For me, as for most, it all boils down to what’s in the best interest of me and mine. What will best keep maniacs from sawing of the heads of the people I care about or blowing up my city? What will best keep the government out of my back yard and bank account? What will best let me raise my (theoritical) children as I see fit?
The right wing tearing itself to shreds, letting the marxists take control of the country, will not help us. Unless the only thing you care about is a sense of self-righteousness, you won’t throw the rest of the coalition under the bus.
January 7th, 2008 at 5:23 pmI would vote whoever is up against Oprah. If it be McCain or Huckabee, I suppose I could refrain from vomiting long enough to get out of the polling area first. I’m a conservative, and I will vote the most conservative of the LIKELY candidates in the big show.
Romney or Thompson would be whom I’d most like to vote, but Fred’s dead, baby… Fred’s dead.
January 7th, 2008 at 5:38 pmMost likely….but I have reservations about 3 candidates frequently mentioned already. I’d have to have a long talk with myself about whether I’d vote for any one of them, or stay home, which would hurt. I guess it would be better to vote for your least favorite of your party affiliation and constantly remind them to watch their step as they make policy. I’m sure not voting socialist.
January 7th, 2008 at 5:41 pmI guess I’m a not a Judas but I will tell you I haven’t voted for a Presidential candidate I loved since 1984. I have voted against a hell of a lot of candidates since then with a “Dim” by their name and will do so again this time.
I personally don’t see a real Conservative in the bunch and that distresses me.
January 7th, 2008 at 5:53 pmticticboom:
You’re 100% correct, including the fact that the right wing ‘is’ tearing itself to shreds letting the marxist gain ground.
It is the Republican party who is throwing us under the bus, not a sense of self-righteousness.
Your statement:
“Life is all about priorities. For me, as for most, it all boils down to what’s in the best interest of me and mine. What will best keep maniacs from sawing of the heads of the people I care about or blowing up my city? What will best keep the government out of my back yard and bank account? What will best let me raise my (theoritical) children as I see fit?”
is precisely why supporting the status quo or voting for the lesser candidate won’t work…. The parties must come to our terms, not theirs…….
Telling them they will lose if they do what we don’t want, does get their attention.
January 7th, 2008 at 6:08 pmyall are way too hard on huck, hes far better than any dems
January 7th, 2008 at 6:51 pmHere’s the bottom line:
You will never get the “perfect candidate.” You should vote for whomever comes closest to your views. In the event that the nominee is not close enough for you to placate your consience, then you have roughly 5 months to practice on the climbing wall until you can GET OVER IT. The idea that not voting would be the moral thing to do is absurd. Abstaining from voting will only get the loonies elected. It’s like being in a street fight with someone who won’t listen to reason: You can stand there and take the high ground and not fight, but you’re guaranteed to get your ass kicked. Even Rudy Guiliani, with all his socially liberal views, would be a better candidate than hillary or barack because at least he wouldn’t tax us into an economic coma. And if all the candidates died in a private plane crash - because we all know they’d never fly commercial - and Ron Paul was the only candidate left alive and became the nominee by default, I’d still vote for Ron Paul because other than the whole foreign policy dilemma we’d face with him, at least we wouldn’t be living in a socialist state. Now, I must clarify that I think Ronnie boy’s a nut job and I won’t be voting for him…but if it happened; these are crazy times we’re livin in, a crazy leader might just do the job:-) just kidding…take care y’all!
Keep up the good work Pat! I can’t wait to see the whole film in all its glory!
Thank you to all the military men and women here!
January 7th, 2008 at 7:31 pmBetter Red than Blue. If you know what’s good for You! All Republican candidates (except Paul & Huckleberry)are infintely better than what the Jackass party has to offer!
January 7th, 2008 at 8:01 pmI like Rudy. As a NYC resident I witnessed the miracle job he did as mayor against significant democrat opposition!
I support Fred Thompson,
January 7th, 2008 at 8:21 pmBut if Fred isn’t on the November ballot,
I would vote for any other Republican except :
I would vote for Obama or Edwards over Ron Paul.
If it is Hillary vs Ron Paul - I would vote for Ron Paul.
I’ll take the nutcase over the tyrant.
Fripp:
Fighting the fight isn’t always that simple. It’s nice to always cheer your team, but if they are a bunch of scatter brained ego junkies, you might want to change the players.
If anyone is perfect, to para-phrase Huckleberry, they wouldn’t be in politics. There is always somebody climbing the wall, some to get over it and others to GET OVER IT. Personally I would like to get “over” it.
” The idea that not voting would be the moral thing to do is absurd.” is a very true statement. There is always the “write in” for those so inclined. The vote is the control.
There is an assumption that the left would have their way if they were elected. This would happen, if the voted in Republicans continued as they have been, and refuse to fight, and continue to yield.
As the old saying goes “It’s not the size of the dog in the fight,… It’s the size of the fight in the dog”
January 7th, 2008 at 8:26 pmA couple would still have my support because I think they will be decent but I’ll want their “feet held to the fire” about key issues. Huck and Paul on the other hand, will likely do many of the same things a Dem would or just accomplish nothing at all which will all but guarantee a Dem in the WH next time around. I’m just trying to think long term here.
January 7th, 2008 at 10:37 pmI’m wondering if leiberman would end up running as an independant? for foreign policy purposes Id vote for him over ron paul. its too bad paul is such a wack job on foreign policy. I didnt vote for bush in the primaries the last 2 elections but voted for him in the end. I may do the same here.
January 8th, 2008 at 4:43 amStill not sure.
If we get a shitty Republican candidate nominated, and I’m forced to consider voting Democrat…at least I know Hillary has balls.
That said, I’ll still probably vote Republican.
January 8th, 2008 at 4:50 amI’ll back McCain, Guiliani, Thompson, Romney, Huck.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:14 amTOMMY FIRST OF ALL IF I WANT TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS I WILL! IT SHOWS HOW FRUSTRATED I AM WITH SO CALLED CONSERVATIVES LIKE YOU! SECONDLY, I AM NOT GOING TO THROW OUT ALL MY MORALS AND AND WHAT I BELIEVE IN TO VOTE FOR A LIBERAL REPUBLICAN. LOOK WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DO THAT WE GET TWO LIBERAL BUSH’S IN THE WHITE HOUSE. YES THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES, BORDER, WAR ON TERROR, ANTI-GUN, ABORTION, TAX INCREASES, LIMITED GOVERNMENT ETC. THE ONLY ONE THAT COVERS THEM ALL IS DUNCAN HUNTER. YOU DON’T SETTLE FOR LESS IN YOUR LIFE DO YOU?? WHY WOULD YOU DO IT VOTING FOR A LIBERAL REPUBLICAN?! IF WE CONSERVATIVES ARE HAPPY WITH THE LIBERAL WING OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THEN KEEP VOTING THAT WAY. SOME SAY THAT NOT VOTING IS WORSE WELL I SAY TO THEM THAT IF WE DON’T SEND A MESSAGE TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY NOW WE ARE DONE. lOOK WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS GIVEN US SINCE REAGAN. BUSH 41 (LIBERAL), DOLE (LIBERAL), AND NOW BUSH. lOOK WHO ELSE WAS RUNNING AT THE TIME TOO ALL LIBERAL. IF THE PARTY IS LIBERAL I DON’T VOTE JUST BECAUSE!
January 8th, 2008 at 6:30 amDUNCAN HUNTER:
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/4/5/141736.shtml?s=lh
January 8th, 2008 at 7:46 am***”Let’s say your choice for President doesn’t get the nomination.
The possibility of that scenario becoming a reality for me is high, as I’ve chosen Duncan Hunter to be my candidate, and unfortunately his numbers have not been as strong as I’d hoped.
***Will you simply back the “R” candidate, whoever it turns out to be, no matter what?
As our Dem led congress has consistently let the nation down, the possibility of a Dem Pres to cap the gov’t is, to me, a very depressing, somewhat frightful, and totally
January 8th, 2008 at 8:57 amunacceptable idea. I suppose I’d rather be pigeonholed by a question like this, than cornholed by a thoroughly Dem gov’t.
There’s one thing I’d like to point out. The President doesn’t get to make the big decisions that affect domestic issues. The Supreme Court and Congress have more pull. His biggest influence is who he appoints to the Court. The most ‘liberal’ candidate is Rudy, and if you think he’s liberal you’re a moron. He’s been divorced and remarried? Him and half the country.
Rudy has said repeatedly, and I believe him, that he’ll appoint strict constructionist judges to the Court. He cleaned up Times Square. But he’s just as bad as Comrade Hillary and Imam B. Hussien Obama?
Guess that’s not good enough. And how the hell are Bush 41 and Dole liberal?
Keep sucking on dem sour grapes.
January 8th, 2008 at 9:31 amMy first choice would be Ron Paul. Before I started checking out this site I did not know much about him and what I hear on this site are no facts only “I don’t like him, he’s weird taking comments out of context. What I have found out about him are listed below.
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.
He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury
every year.
I am more for looking at the man or woman over party. My second choice is between Hunter and McCain.
January 8th, 2008 at 9:38 amBill-
I don’t know how you expect to accomplish anything with that attitude. Do you expect to get a majority of the electoral vote by insisting everyone must agree with everything you say? I can’t imagine the number of people laughing at you if you were to insist on someone more conservative than Bush this election. True, that may not make you wrong, but it means your guy would never have a snowballs chance in hell of getting elected.
January 8th, 2008 at 10:01 amI gotta go with RVN68MIKE…the 9 unelected, unaccountable lawyers in black robes sitting in DC have shown the capacity to continue to erode our liberties by legislating from the bench! Thank god Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito fight the good “constructionist” fight. I cringe every time I think what would happen if a dem gets the chance to name a few new Stevens’ or Ginsburgs’ to the bench!
I would NEVER vote for a dem.
My choices:
Thompson (true conservative that has no problem telling the lib media to metaphorically kiss his ass!)
Romney (I like his stance on illegals)
Guiliani (seems to do the anti-terror thing pretty well)
Fuckabee…no way. Too soft on illegals and he wants to kiss up to the UN..a one world order kind of guy
McCain…absolutely not. Lib media loves him and McCain/Feingold is a joke!
January 8th, 2008 at 4:08 pmI took the vajoe.com candidate calculator. Here are my results:
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Your Top Match
California Representative Duncan Hunter (R)
89.06% match
Your Other Top Matches
Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson (R) - 86.72%
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (R) - 85.94%
Colorado Representative Tom Tancredo (R) - 84.38%
Middle of the Pack
Arizona Senator John McCain (R) - 78.13%
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) - 72.66%
Kansas Senator Sam Brownback (R) - 67.19%
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee (R) - 67.19%
Texas Representative Ron Paul (R) - 46.09%
Businessman John Cox (R) - 40.63%
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson (D) - 40.63%
Connecticut Senator Christopher Dodd (D) - 38.28%
New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) - 35.94%
Delaware Senator Joseph Biden (D) - 31.25%
Bottom of the Barrel
Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards (D) - 29.69%
Illinois Senator Barack Obama (D) - 25.78%
Former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel (D) - 14.06%
Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich (D) - 6.25%
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Not surprising to me, really, at least as far as issues go. Notice how none of them broke 90%? I was surprised that anyone hit over 80%. Fred, Rudy, and McCain are all within 15 points of each other. Even Huck and Paul far outscore most of the dems.
January 8th, 2008 at 5:52 pmAlot of you, BILL too, sound like little spoiled 16 year olds on MTV who got a Mercedes from their parents for their birthday but got the black Mercedes instead of the red Mercedes and are insisting on having a hissy fit about it and throw away the Mercedes all together. Grow Up. Party Trumps Person.
January 8th, 2008 at 8:08 pm