If You Had To Vote Tonight, Who Would You Vote For?
I just saw a little blurb thing on John McCain and learned something I never knew: He was a pilot on board the USS Forestall.
Heh heh…everytime I would go to shipboard firefighting school in Pearl Harbor (which was a couple times a year) they would show us the flight deck footage of that fire and all the things those guys did wrong. Chilling video, man, let me tell you. I grabbed a couple of stills from that footage and put it up top here.
I think that piece of knowledge made my vote…for tonight anyway.
Anyway, McCain ticked me off with a comment he made the other day about Pakistan, and I am not all that keen on his torture position, but if I had to vote tonight, I would vote for him because I think he would be best qualified to be Commander-in-Chief. I like Hunter, but no longer believe it is possible for him to get elected.
So if I had to vote tonight, it would be McCain. But he didn’t even campaign in Iowa, really, so I don’t expect to see him at all. But quite honestly, I don’t know his stand on illegal immigration. Also, this is such a strange field we have because no single candidate seems to be differentiating himself apart from the others to my liking.
So tell us…who would you vote for tonight?
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Gotta stick with Thompson, he can friggin’ recite the Constitution from memory…and…and…knows what it means because he also can recite the Founders’ words. 10th Amendment anyone?…14th? I’m sold.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:13 pmI’m a FredHead, have been from the start. When the man speaks, I never get the feeling he is sucking up for my vote. The guy just reminds me of Reagan.
I hate to say it, but I think he doesn’t have a chance this time. But if Hillary the brainless cunt gets elected, she’ll fuck things up so bad that in 2012, anybody with a brain and a pulse will go for Fred.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:22 pmLike Fred … Like Hunter … Would vote for any of the GOP field, except Paul … and would hold my nose for Huck.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:28 pmI was in the Canadian Navy, we also watch the Forestall video every time we went to firefighting school.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:44 pmStill with McCain. Hands down and not going to change my mind.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:45 pmFred - The most likely to be the conservative, steady hand we need in the Whitehouse. Everything he says is in sync with my ideals and positions. He will appoint judges I will like too. Press is working to hide him (bury him) as he will be able to win in November against the Demon Orcs.
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:56 pmHaven’t wavered an iota on this. Fred Thompson!!!!!!!!!!
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:58 pmHUNTER 08 all the way!
Then Fred if Duncan cannot generate more support.
McCain was a fuck up in the Navy, losing 4 or 5 aircraft and I believe he started the fire on Forrestal with an accidental rocket launch. If his father wasn’t an Admiral he’d have been washed out early and or treated poorly by the North VietNamese.
Then there’s that trip to Ho Chi Mein City with Hanoi John. What DID John McCain GET for his “normalization” effort?
He’s still a fuck up. Can you say,” Kennedy/McCain Amnesty?
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:01 pmFred for all above reasons and more, he sticks to the foundations of this country. All his positions are on his web site, not sound bites or sham debates. Anyone to keep that 60’s bitch out of office.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:02 pmI am pissed that Iowa has so much damn control . . . . and the media has so much damn control . . . .
Duncan Hunter
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:04 pmAddenda: I have three buddies who were in Forrestal for the cluster fuck which killed 135 Sailors and Marines, the Marine lost his sense of smell that day (Chemical Inhalation) and the Sailors are scarred for life. Try touting Mr. McCain to them if you want to find yourself sliding on your ass.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:09 pmDuncan Hunter, no competition in my mind. He’s the only Reagan style conservative of the Bunch. The only one who I feel has the back ground and experience to lead our military as commander in chief. The only one with a REAL border solution and willing to build a fence, and man it. The ONLY one who can say “God” without either blushing, or coming across as self righteous. I truely feel if all Republicans actually read the stances and platforms on all of the candidates sites, Hunter would win by a landslide……I just don’t think most have read anything about him, much less visited the various candidates sites to see what they stand for. I’m sad to see again the media shoveling down our throats who we should consider.
Fred for all his acting background, seems as charismatic as cardboard….maybe he needs a better script. Other then that I like him second best, and his values, and stands on issues are sound, I just worry he could lose a national election.
Giuliani would be third, he’s Charismatic enough to moderates and even some normally mor eliberal minded to win in a landslide, but his background shows he will not bend or compromise on Terrorism, and if he takes them as seriously as he did organized crime as a prosecuter, he really could be an EXCELLENT president for the War on Terror, my main concern is his lack of faith, and his rather liberal stance on other issues I deeply care about like the 2nd amendment.
Huckabee has come across to me as a backstabber, and everyone from Arkansas I have talked t say he was a horrible governer…..I think Clinton already convinced me that state doesn’t produce great Presidents. Romney to me is a Republican version of Clinton, slick, and his values rise and fall with the polls. And of course I’d sooner elect my miniature Dachsund then Ron Paul, even neutered he’s more menecing to foriegn threats than that tin foil nut job.
McCain…..McCain I Dearly love as a human being. I love him for his service record. I do beleive he is a good man. However he has many times, underminded his party, and conservative values in Washington…in his quest to be moderate he’s often sold out what it means to be a Conservative….I don’t feel he’d really support the War on Terror rather I think he’d look for the “honorable retreat”, and I do not beleive any retreat short of a Democratic Iraq able to govern and protect itself is honorable…..I just do not trust that he has what it takes to lead us to victory……I dunno the McCain that served our military and the McCain I have seen in Washington are just two different people.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:09 pm1st choice: Fred Thompson or Duncan Hunter.
2nd choice: Rudy or Mitt.
The others have proven they aren’t worthy of the office.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:20 pm@Zeke Eagle…
Damn shame what happened that day. Those flight deck films are really haunting, especially the guy who tried to put out the fire on the bomb (if you’ve seen the footage you know the one I mean), but as far as I remember it wasn’t McCain that started the fire, it was another plane that misfired a bomb because of a wiring short and it HIT McCain’s plane as he awaited take-off, and he got out and then the shit really hit the fan.
He also was offered freedom after 7 months by the NVA because of his father’s status, but refused saying he didn’t want preferential treatment and stayed a prisoner another 4 years.
Correct me if you know something I don’t.
BUT: You remind me of his stance on immigration now, and I think I don’t like that amnesty bullshit. Fuck the illegals, they need a boot in the ass.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:21 pmZeke, McCain was not in ANYWAY responsible for the Forestall disaster, the missle that went off due to an electrical short was from another plane and hit HIS plane. He was damn lucky to escape before it went boom……I couldn’t disagree more about his service record his service record is honorable, and I certainly don’t hold it against him that his dad was an Admiral…..that’s not some title that just gets handed out willey nilly, he earned it, and it says something about his family and it’s values in my book.
That said I do hold him accountable for his political decissions and several times back stabbing supposed friends in the Republican party just to get press as a “Moderate”. I do not agree with his stance on the border, nor his stance on torture. The McCain I have seen in THIS decade I just do not trust as commander in chief…..and i certainly do not trust he’ll do what it takes to secure our borders from either terrorism or uncontrolled immigration. He has placed himself politically in a position where he might get elected but if elected he’d not only be attacked by the left, but many conservatives in Congress who he’s backstabbed wouldn’t support him either.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:29 pmFRED!!!
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:31 pmI followed McCain’s career when he was in the Navy. His father was a Fleet Admiral. Made it hard not to notice his son.
I also had the luxury of interviewing several men who served on ships McCain also served on. I defer to their judgement on McCain. Which is to say that McCain was and still is a loose cannon on deck.
I prefer Hunter or Thompson. The rest? I’ll vote for Romney or Guliani only if Fred or Hunter doesn’t make it in.
Huckabee is just Klinton-lite.
Paul? LOL Need I say more?
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:32 pmHow in the heck can anyone think that McCain was in ANYWAY responsible for the Forestall disaster? He was nearly a victim, but heavens he barely got out when the first wave of firefighters went in and got blown to hell. How was it in ANYWAY McCain’s fault?
That sounds like a misguided rumor started for political reasons to me….heck I don’t even like McCain as much as the others politically, but I have NEVER EVER heard anything close to those lines. My father was an officer on a Destroyer in the Navy as well about that time, and knew the events well. That story just doesn’t pan out.
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:35 pmFred….nuff said
Rudy and Rom, if I have to.
Never Ron Paul….
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:40 pmFred or Duncan
January 3rd, 2008 at 6:43 pmFederalist Fred
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:07 pmFred…by choice
Giuliani…by preference
Mitt..by necessity
The others can go fuck off…
January 3rd, 2008 at 7:35 pmI’m tired of the feminized republicans.
I did not even know until I read this piece that McCain was on the Forestall.
I would only vote for McCain if he was the only logical choice that I had.
You can not blame him for the Forestall disaster; but you can blame him for his positions while he has held office.
He is for:
Letting ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS stay.
Giving ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS a path to citizenship.
Not prosecuting ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS for Identity Theft.
Telling the world how we interogate terrorists.
Ending the Global War on Terror (On unpopular fronts anyway).
Limiting how we interogate terrorists.
Giving terrorists lawyers in civilian courts.
I just cannot vote for this guy. I do not know any self respecting military veterans who could.
I will never take anything away from Senator McCain for his service to this country, while he served in the military. I will not forgive him for what he has done while in the Senate.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:02 pmFred all the way. Mitt has really impressed me,earned my respect and a second place vote if needed. McCain and Rudy for me are a toss-up.
If Huck is nominee, I may stay home. Sound familiar? Let Evangelicals get their pro-lifer elected without the rest of us, a flip on the threatened Rudy boycott. Blow up that Reagan coalition and let’s start over rather than comprimise with another big-government candidate. Huck is just a pro-life Liberal as evidenced by his Leno appearance.
I really don’t want a President who jokes about his foreign policy experience by saying he slept at a Holiday Inn.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:10 pmBash I am disappointed that you are already counting Duncan Hunter out of the race. I am a FIRM believer that Duncan Hunter is the only candidate in this race that will do the right things for the United States of America.
See my previous post as to why your candidate should not hold the highest office in the nation.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:11 pmCurrent Tally to this point:
McCain 2
Hunter 5
Thompson 11
Going with the first candidate listed, otherwise Hunter would have more.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:16 pmMcCain was off running for president last year while a bunch of senators were meeting “secretly” in Washington to come up with the proposed “Comprehensive (Amnesty) Immigration Reform Plan”. . . those senators led by Ted Kennedy met with La Raza (The Race) and the Chamber of Commerce and the ACLU other “illegal friendly” organizations to draft the plan, which President Bush wholeheartedly signed off on (funny that they didn’t consult with the border patrol) . . . McCain came running into washington for the photo-op so his name could be attached. He has always been an open borders, amnesty senator and this was a good publicity stunt, he thought.
When the public pitched a telephonic fit and shut down the phone lines in Washington, McCain says that he “heard the Amercan people” and that they want border security first and so he will go along with that now - yeah, right
McCain is a U.S. Senator NOW and we only have 7 miles of double fencing built (promised over two years ago) and the fence bill has now been killed - what is he doing now - ignoring it and that is what he will do when he is president . . . Kay Bailey Hutchison did McCains bidding for him while he was out on the campaign trail. The witch snuck in and killed the fence with an amendement a few days before Christmis - now the “defunked” border fence is no more - Merry Frickin’ Christmas, Texas . . .
McCain will not secure our border. He has always been an open border guy and will never change. Read between the lines when he addresses the border. “We are a compassionate country and we need to do the right thing” and “we need a comprehensive approach to the problem” - Those are open border comments . . . I thank McCain for his service, but he is an open border guy . . . on the take of big business or big drugs or big North American Union or big something, but not big border security.
Not to mention . . . he did not vote for the Bush tax cuts . . . and I wish every American would remember how much taxes an open border costs: medical care, education, food stamps (Lone Star cards in Texas), government housing (they just have to “say” they are citizens), law enforcement, incarceration . . .
Open borders is going to be the end of the United States of America . . . economically and in the war on terror.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:24 pmWell said Texas Mom!!!
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:27 pmMcCain for sure. Then Thompson. They’re both sweet.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:28 pmJohn McCain’s son is serving in the Marine Corp in the enlisted ranks…He and Duncan Hunter is probally where I’m leaning
as far as immigration goes, I don’t give a rats ass about what they do except for 1 thing, SECURE THE FUCKING BORDER. Until that is done, all else is verbal masturbation.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:30 pmI have been a Fred fan since he was thinking about running. He has the voting record I like and he seems to have all the right ideas written down.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:31 pmRepost:
Fred…by choice
Giuliani…by preference
Romny…by necessity (His son Mat, is my neighbor)
The others can fuck off, I’m tired of the feminized Republicans. I’m looking for a U.S.Grant in a world of Millard Fillmores.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:38 pmI’m thinking Fred more and more…
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:41 pmHunter
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:41 pmYou forgot to mention that Duncan’s son is or was in the Military and riunning for his seat.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:42 pmMcCain for me.
I’m an immigrant to America(legal though and hoping to get citizenship) so his views on the subject don’t bother me, I believe America has a great deal to gain from immigrants and stands to lose a lot if it seals its borders. No fence will keep a determined terrorist or immigrant out.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:54 pmWell, Jim, then I guess my point is that John McCain is the biggest verbal jack-off as it relates to the border in the Republican running. He has no intention of securing the border.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:56 pmMcCain all the way, who doesn’t support amnesty or open borders but a plan that requires illegals to their country of origin to get documentation and then return and apply for citizenship which under his plan would provide them with social security for the time they were here prior to documentation. This isn’t amnesty, it’s an incentive and a compromise. McCain wasn’t a fuck up in the military, he was an honorable warrior for his country who refused going back with the forrestal to get repairs after his plane was struck by a rocket and instead opted to fly on oransky with a fighter wing that had lost 1/3 of their pilots I believe only to be shot down 3 months later. After he was captured and nearly died he refused to be released unless everyone who was held before him was released first. He is a committed patriot who does what he believes is right, not on what party rhetoric dictates. I heard someone say in here that he was pro gun control, well the NRA has endorsed him so maybe someone should tell them. McCain all the way. I want someone who has sacrificed for this country, someone who knows the sharp end of the spear, to be the one wielding it against our enemies, and have no doubt that McCain is fearless when it comes to the enemies of America. McCain in ‘08 is the only way I will vote. If not McCain then I will vote for no one.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:57 pmcorrection: should read “but a plan that requires illegals to return to their country of origin…” sorry bout that.
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:58 pmMcCain supports an increase in troop strength in Iraq by the way Bash, which is completely the opposite of every other candidate.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:01 pmMcCains plan did not require illegals to return to their country of origin - it was amnesty for a fee - no touch back for the z-visa:
Grassfire.org summary of Bush-Senate amnesty bill:
1. Creates almost immediate legal status for 12-20 million illegals.
2. Provides clear three-step path to citizenship for 12-20 million illegals.
3. Allows current illegals to stay legally in our country indefinitely.
4. Does not require a “touch back” to obtain Z-visa (only for Green Card app).
5. Gives illegals healthcare/education benefits and back credit for Social Security wages.
6. Creates new Temporary Worker “Y-Visa” program with unlimited totals.
7. Legal status granted to illegals BEFORE TRIGGERS so triggers are meaningless.
It was amnesty - and no respect for our sovereignity - period.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:05 pmJames F - We are all immigrants (except native Americans) . . . but there are laws - thank you for respecting our laws and becoming a citizen legally.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:08 pm@ LMcG
Securing the border and closing the border are 2 different things….
BTW…I didn’t see your post before I wrote that
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:09 pmRock-on Texas Mom…
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:15 pmLMcG- Thanks to America for welcoming my family
I’ll repay the debt sometime after high school
But you’re right there are laws. Just not sure if a fence is this best way to enforce them.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:19 pmIn the Super Tuesday primary, I’m going to roll the dice–7 it’s McCain, 5, Guiliani, 3, Romney. That’s about it. I hope I’m not being too crass about it.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:20 pm@LMcG
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:25 pmDon’t stop their…Since this seems to be your point of contention, WTF are the DETAILED plans of the others!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Immigration_Reform_Act_of_2007
“The bill would have required such an immigrant to be in their home country when they apply for their green card.”
This bill is criticized by conservatives for being too lenient, and by liberals as being too harsh. So I’m guessing its probably closer to the right course of action than any that has been offered so far. Vote McCain in ‘08.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:32 pmJim,
That is what I am trying to find out - Clearly, the border is my issue - as stated above it is of economic importance and of security importance . . . Duncan Hunter has the plan that I fully support (pasted below). Obviously, the Republican Party does not support Duncan Hunter. The Republican Party supports an open flow of cheap labor back in forth across the border with President Bush at the helm and Mel Martinez as their leader of the party for the last year until recently. That is one reason I think that Huckabee is getting a lot of “Republican” support. He would continue President Bush’s open border legacy.
Fred Thompson’s stated positions are close to Hunter and his voting record is somewhat close, but his short period as a senator does not give me a lot to look at. Mitt Romney’s position is a little closer to Hunter than Mayor Guilanni. The mayor’s record is as worrisome as Huckabee’s border record, but both claim to be “pro-border security” NOW . . . whatever that means. Senator McCain has been in the senate for (what 18 years) with multiple votes for open borders and continuing to look the “other way” when the laws have not been enforced. Senator McCain has the largest record of pro-illegal immigration votes as compared to all the rest. I hold him the most responsible for the mess we are in now based on his years in office and position.
Amnesty - Duncan Hunter
I have a 27 year record of fighting illegal immigration and promoting border security. As a member of Congress with a Southwest border district heavily impacted by the effects of illegal immigration, I have steadfastly opposed amnesty proposals, including voting against the 1986 amnesty law, while tirelessly working to strengthen border security. Amnesty is not the answer. In fact, it encourages a whole new wave of illegal immigrants who seek to catch the next amnesty.
America has one of the most generous immigration policies in the world. It is unacceptable that we allow millions of people to sneak in the back door of our country when the front door is available. We have tried amnesty and it does not work. We must enforce and, as necessary, tighten our immigration laws and secure our border–it is a matter of national security.
Border Fence - Duncan Hunter
As part of the 1996 Illegal Immigration Reform Act (P.L. 104-208), I authored the legislative language mandating a 14-mile triple fence along the San Diego-Mexico land border, which augmented the single layer fence he had built with surplus landing-matt in 1989. Since then I’ve worked, most notably against strong opposition of the Clinton Administration, to see that project completed. Since construction of the San Diego fence began:
· Illegal alien apprehensions along the fenced region dropped from over 202,000 in 1992 to about 9,000 in 2004. Further, it is estimated that the apprehensions vs. attempts ratio increased to over 90%;
· With the establishment of the San Diego border fence, crime rates in San Diego have fallen off dramatically. According to the FBI Crime Index, crime in San Diego County dropped 56.3% between 1989 to 2000;
· Vehicle drive-throughs in the region have fallen from between 6 to 10 per day before the construction of border infrastructure, to only 4 drive-throughs in 2004 and those occurred only where the secondary fence is incomplete;
· The fence has forced drug smugglers, who once easily crossed the San Diego border, to attempt to enter the U.S. through major ports of entry instead. This significantly increases the likelihood of discovery and seizure of illegal narcotics entering our country.
As a result of the success of the San Diego fence, I authored the provisions of the Secure Fence Act calling for the construction of 854 miles of border fence along the five most prolific smuggling corridors on the Southwest border. While construction of the Secure Fence project is not moving as rapidly as Rep. Hunter would like, the Administration is moving forward and as of September 30, 2007, 70 miles of new border pedestrian fence has been constructed. I remain engaged in ensuring that the Administration meets the mandates put in place by the Secure Fence Act and secures our borders as rapidly as possible.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:41 pmThe two most inexperienced candidates on the list?????What in he** is wrong with the American people? 6th grade thinkers as well as readers, spellers, etc? We need experience and leadership. Fred is too laid back to collect other than very conservative votes, McCain wrong on too many issues, Huckabee is a unknowledgeable hick (who wants a Baptist minister in the whitehouse with all this screaming about separation of church and state AND BESIDES, HE CANNOT BEAT HILLARY), which leaves Rudy….lots of pimples but an experienced leader. I want what is best for the country as a whole. Who can keep us safe and lead in time of disaster. l can hold my nose on the other issues.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:44 pmLets get one thing straight on this Native American BS…If you know what crossing the great divide means you’ll know that everyone was an immigrant … and on the game of who got where first…well civilizations/cultures came and then they left or were conquered over and over again.. In other words the natives were immigrants
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:46 pmAnd there are several presidential candidate grading sites on illegal immigration:
Here is one - Numbers USA:
http://www.betterimmigration.com/candidates/2006/prez08_gop1.html
And the point regarding “Native Americans” is that we are all “immigrants” basically and should respect the laws that are in play at the time of our arrival . . . our arrival to this greatest country in the world.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:51 pmRememberOurFathers :
Illegal immigrants would have had to return to their country of origin to obtain a green card and apply for citizenship . . . they were granted legal status immediately without returning and could remain indefinitely on z-visas . . . rewarded for breaking the law.
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:56 pm@ LMcG
I’m not sold on the fence idea but I haven’t been sold on any Plan. I have heard some ideas but they include an alignment and a security partnership with Mexico…an immigrant wanting to work and organized gangs/militias allowing the trade of the black market are two different entities. We can’t treat or handle all as an extreme evil
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:59 pm· “The fence has forced drug smugglers, who once easily crossed the San Diego border, to attempt to enter the U.S. through major ports of entry instead. This significantly increases the likelihood of discovery and seizure of illegal narcotics entering our country.”
I know first hand (sorta) that the traffickers that were stopped because of a fence were not primary or secondary contributers of illegal trade
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:12 pmJim - We see a lot of “extreme evil” in Texas - Search Laredo Missing Americans (60 last year) . . . the politicians on the border are corrupt (and apparently our two senators, too) and we have resulting “cheese heroin” in DFW and gang wars and cop killings . . . I guess it is okay as long as it is not in your backyard.
Bullshit on security partnership with Mexico - that is President Bush’s game - Search Zeta’s (yep, drug cartel that we trained)
See Duncan Hunter’s explanation that I pasted above about how the fence worked in San Diego - that is a double fence . . .
· Illegal alien apprehensions along the fenced region increased to over 90%;
· Crime rates in San Diego have fallen off 56.3% between 1989 to 2000;
· Vehicle drive-throughs in the region have fallen from between 6 to 10 per day to only 4 drive-throughs in 2004
·The fence has forced drug smugglers, who once easily crossed the San Diego border, to attempt to enter the U.S. through major ports of entry instead - TEXAS TEXAS TEXAS
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:16 pmJim - Not a fence alone - Of course, that is not the only solution . . . but a fence is the “first” line of defense.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:19 pmI know on the surface the security relationship being developed with Mexico (and other parts of S, America)is mostly covert with exceptions, and I’m about 100% sure it will be the only real development you’ll see (or not see) happen concerning the border…I know the fence will not be built regardless of who says what and the immigration issue will remain… Hence my use of the previous verbal phrase…DOD will handle alot more of the border concerns in the future which will neutralize all political rhetoric…that is why my concern is minimal as far as it is concerning a president’s platform
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:45 pmWho is ever in the “R” column. It’s the only one that counts.
By November after all the horseshit, I’d be voting for Vladimir Putin if he had an “R” beside his name over the three assholes currently nominated by the Dimocratic party.
I’d vote for Hugo Chavez over John Edwards.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:49 pmJim - Well, I hope that relying on invisible covert security doesn’t result in any overt criminal assault on your person or on someone else in your “world” . . . I have a daughter to protect and so I will remain in the real world and fight for American sovereignty until . . . well, there is no sovereignty left.
Some day I hope to find a politician who I can trust with the best interest of my daughter and the country at heart, and one with integrity to boot . . . that would be one who is not supported by the corrupt media or special interests, nor one who is self-grandizing - and really one who just does not lie . . . maybe John McCain has a secret military force on the border who keeps the good guys on one side and the bad guys on the other . . . but I can tell you in Texas it is not working, but then maybe that is how he wants it ??? Seems curious that Texas is left wide open and the fence was started in California.
‘Til I find my president in shining armor, I will keep looking and keep hoping for the best for this country. I can tell you that it hasn’t happened yet and I am worried about our future.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:59 pmFor me, nothing matters right now except the war on terror and winning in Iraq. McCain is the only man who has offered a strategy that puts victory in Iraq above all else. McCain’s bill on immigration was a COMPROMISE because no immigration reform bill would have passed the democratic congress without concessions to the democrats. Doing nothing was not an option, so McCain COMPROMISED and helped author a bill along with other republicans and democrats. McCain is a man who believes doing nothing is worse than doing something, even if it means compromise. One thing you won’t see McCain compromise on is victory in Iraq and Afghanistan, which is the most important issues for our country right now. No candidate has the foreign policy experience or expertise that McCain has. McCain has been an advocate for more troops in Iraq since the beginning, which would have provided the additional security that had been missing up until the surge. When other candidates are distancing themselves from the war in Iraq with servile politically correct statements, McCain is advocating greater troop strengths and an aggressive strategy to expel al qaeda and to implement all of General Petraeus’ recommendations. McCain is a man that will deal shrewdly with our enemies, protecting our sovereignty and interests at all costs. My vote in 2008 will be for McCain and for victory in Iraq.
January 4th, 2008 at 12:25 amI am partial to libertarianism which makes me a ron Paul fan except that I am also a fan of current foreign policy which makes me want alan keyes. since Paul sounds like a democrat regarding his rhetoric about the war and tying every international tragedy to Us foreign policy, I suspect he believes every reason the terrorists give us except for the truth, that thier ultimate rreasoning is Islam. I would go with paul even though he is against war if he would only do a hint of research on the fundamental principles of islam.
Case in point: Iran ” If Iran had a nuclear weapon, the odds of her initiating an atack against anybody-which would guarantee her annihilation-are zero. And the same goes for the possibility she would place weapons in the hands of a non-state terrorist group.” (A Foreign Policy of Freedom;pg. 350)Now though paul ignores the numerous occassions where ahmedinijad speaks of the destruction of israel,he also ignores the history of Islam especially shia islam. In countless addresses including at the UN ahmedinijad alludes to the coming of the 12th imam which is a direct tie-in to the end of the world. Shias in particular believe they can hasten such an event. given the evidence and knowledge of Islam, could one conclude that perhaps someone like ahmedinijad may consider using nuclear weapons or selling them to other terrorrists? Is it possible that their leader doesnt care about its own annihilation since it anticipates the annihilation of the human race as a prelude to the coming of the Mahdi?
as such I am left to vote for Alan keyes, since he is principaled, more experienced in foreign policy than paul and a constitutional scholar. Plus he doesnt wear a tinfoil hat.
January 4th, 2008 at 2:03 amFred is my first choice, his health worries me though and McCain is pretty old. Rudy scares me on guns. Hunter would be first but the MSM is ignoring him so I doubt he’ll make it.
Mitt I’d vote for if I have to, same with Huck.
Obama has a huge following from the college crowd, so say my two at the university’s here in the west, if he pulls the young vote ? (crap) thats worse than hillary.
January 4th, 2008 at 2:37 amFDT
Leadership, honesty, conservative all the way.
January 4th, 2008 at 3:24 amVote McCain–please-
It’s our best way to get his sorry ass out of AZ.
January 4th, 2008 at 5:39 amMcCain will have to have a VP like Hunter, giving him creditability on the Border. I like Hunter,but he has only a slim to none chance.
January 4th, 2008 at 5:54 amMcCain/ Hunter in 08………..
Fred Thompson/ Duncan Hunter Fred for his constitutional knowledge and his straight forward approach to securing our boarders. I think he can bring fiscal responsibility, and put the Conservative back in conservatism.He understands the treat this country faces from terrorists. Hunter to implement boarder control.There are a lot more reasons for Fred, that’s just a few off the top.
January 4th, 2008 at 5:59 amAlan Keyes? If only this country were that smart. The guy is a true conservative. In my opinion, the only true conservative running…besides Duncan Hunter. The rest of them are also-rans in that regard. He knows the foreign policy game very well.
Never understood why no one wnats to give this dude a job in their administration. Perhaps it is because he is so much more articulate and intelligent than everyone else in the race.
The rest of the choices? What a disappointment. I liked GW from the start. I liked Reagan from the start. Held my nose when I voted for Bush I twice. Looks like I’ll have to do that again cause I damn sure ain’t voting for the Oprah-fied Osamayomomma or the carpet-munching Hildabeast.
January 4th, 2008 at 6:05 amDuncan Hunter doesn’t have a Chinaman’s chance. But, he is the best man for today’s world.
There is no doubt that the media is giving this man no equal time and treatment. That is too bad. I’d vote for him in a general election in a heartbeat and I think that he could beat anyone that the Dihm’s throw at him.
January 4th, 2008 at 6:46 amDan (The Infidel) :
One Shot:
I agree, Duncan Hunter and Alan Keyes are the ONLY! conservatives available….. , NONE !,I say again NONE !, of the others are acceptable……………
If I have to do a write in I will……
January 4th, 2008 at 7:08 amCount me in with the Thompson vote. Digging Fred with his solid conservative record, straight talk and tough stance on issues of principle.
I certainly loved it when he slapped down that silly editor from Iowa that was doing the moderating at the debate. That is the kind of, not going to be pushed around, leader we need. Another beer for Thompson.
January 4th, 2008 at 8:12 amWent to caucus last night and put my X on Hunter. The rest of the people in town apparently form their opinions only from what they see on the 6 o’clock news. Very disappointing.
January 4th, 2008 at 9:31 amDefinately Fred Thompson. McCain would be my second, but since we are talking about who we would vote for right now it would be Fred.
Listening to him speak and looking at what is out there for him he closest and in many areas is extremely close to the way I think.
Like someone said earlier in the previous 72 posts on this I also do not feel like he is trying to sell himself to me for my vote. I feel what he is actually saying he will do his best to make it happen.
Huckaby I do not believe has an idea of what Foriegn policy needs to be, and Romney… Well he seems to be a big slippery grease ball to me. I don’t feel like I can trust a word he says.
January 4th, 2008 at 11:59 amMcCain Will be my only choice! Srong support for the Military!! And was the only one that was right about the Surge and to few of Troops sent in the first place. Smart Man!
January 4th, 2008 at 12:39 pm@DAN
January 4th, 2008 at 12:47 pmI agree completely about Keyes, I can listen to him all day long. The man just lets his understanding of the founding fathers documents pour out from his soul and in my mind is undebatable. He was (years ago) trying to get the Declaration of Independence recognized as an official policy document
(I didn’t know that it is not). I think he and Bolton would make excellent secretary of state and sec of defense appointees.
Plain and simple: Duncan Hunter.
January 4th, 2008 at 2:47 pmThompson/McCain ‘08…
Thompson has the Best record of being a truly consistent Conservative and he has provided the Only workable plan on immigration that we’ve heard from any candidate. He’s Pro-Victory in the War on Terror and will use his Veto stamp freely when confronted with asinine Liberal spending…
McCain, also Pro-Victory, would be an invaluable asset as a V.P. because of his knowledge and experience with National Security issues… I’m not real impressed with his stance on Immigration or Economic issues, but as V.P. to Thompson, I believe they would make one Hell of a Team…
January 4th, 2008 at 4:03 pmDuncan Hunter if available
Fred Thompson next
I used to live in Iowa, the people were to wierd for me, so I moved to Arizona.
January 4th, 2008 at 4:15 pmI think Iowa is and always will be an anomoly when voting.
Damn that’s a surprise! I just got finished reading through the comments here and Thompson is winning this Poll hands down! To hear the MSM tell the story you wouldn’t think there was anyone out there who knows who he is or what he stands for… That’s encouraging!
Even more encouraging is the Lack of Ron Paul supporters!
January 4th, 2008 at 4:39 pm