Comments on: Gates Tells NATO Allies To Grow A Pair https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/ The latest in policital news and the war in Iraq Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:41:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Kampfgruppe Cottrell https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107530 Kampfgruppe Cottrell Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:21:20 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107530 NATO, what a joke! That organization collapsed when the Soviets gave in. Now that the Russian juggernaut isn't threatening to crush Western Europe under it's tank treads they don't see the need to commit to anything. Yet again it's up to America to keep the bad guys in check with our blood and treasure and with the way things look that might not even be possible much longer when the weak and indecisive take up in the White House. Welcome to the fall of Western civilization brothers and sisters! Brian NATO, what a joke! That organization collapsed when the Soviets gave in. Now that the Russian juggernaut isn’t threatening to crush Western Europe under it’s tank treads they don’t see the need to commit to anything. Yet again it’s up to America to keep the bad guys in check with our blood and treasure and with the way things look that might not even be possible much longer when the weak and indecisive take up in the White House. Welcome to the fall of Western civilization brothers and sisters!

Brian

]]> By: Joe https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107535 Joe Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:47:32 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107535 NATO will be useful when they finally realize they are being overrun by Muslim immigrants who want to kill them. So far, it hasn't been a problem because there has not been a serious incident. Although, there were the Madrid and London train bombings but all that did was make Spain and England more likely to appease them. Wait till they start daily car bombs, maybe a few chemical attacks, or nuke a city. Then they might want to do the whole alliance thing. But they won't do that until they are provoked. NATO will be useful when they finally realize they are being overrun by Muslim immigrants who want to kill them. So far, it hasn’t been a problem because there has not been a serious incident. Although, there were the Madrid and London train bombings but all that did was make Spain and England more likely to appease them. Wait till they start daily car bombs, maybe a few chemical attacks, or nuke a city. Then they might want to do the whole alliance thing. But they won’t do that until they are provoked.

]]> By: RTLM https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107551 RTLM Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:00:03 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107551 The US cleaned up the German mess after WWII, then rebuilt, fed, protected and pumped up the EUro economy for the last 60 years. And now they won’t help fight. Many sell weapons to our enemies. Euros, you know who you are. The Hell with you. The US cleaned up the German mess after WWII, then rebuilt, fed, protected and pumped up the EUro economy for the last 60 years. And now they won’t help fight. Many sell weapons to our enemies.

Euros, you know who you are.

The Hell with you.

]]> By: franchie https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107631 franchie Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:50:15 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107631 it’s evident that the Nato countries, (except you) are waiting for : 1- the next Nato meeting (I think next spring) that aims to redefine its goals, its organisation, its subventions… 2- The EU Nations know perfectly that Bush is “over”, from November there will be a new president, a new administration, new objectives… so they are not engaging more costs of persons and money in a policy that might be over at the end of this year. 3- Seems that Afghanistan doesn’t want Nato troops, but more help to form their own army 4- The conflict seems more located at the Pakistan borders ; in anycase Pakistan is the real reserve of jihadists, then, why not invadind or bombing Pakistan… it’s evident that the Nato countries, (except you) are waiting for :

1- the next Nato meeting (I think next spring) that aims to redefine its goals, its organisation, its subventions…

2- The EU Nations know perfectly that Bush is “over”, from November there will be a new president, a new administration, new objectives… so they are not engaging more costs of persons and money in a policy that might be over at the end of this year.

3- Seems that Afghanistan doesn’t want Nato troops, but more help to form their own army

4- The conflict seems more located at the Pakistan borders ; in anycase Pakistan is the real reserve of jihadists, then, why not invadind or bombing Pakistan…

]]> By: Steve in NC https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107684 Steve in NC Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:49:40 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107684 @ franchie - point 2 "The EU Nations know perfectly that Bush is “over”, from November there will be a new president, a new administration, new objectives… so they are not engaging more costs of persons and money in a policy that might be over at the end of this year." You admit that europe follows America, that europe is not able to lead on this The founders of America left europe over 200 years ago because we tired of your oppressive socialist selfish elitist society @ franchie - point 2

“The EU Nations know perfectly that Bush is “over”, from November there will be a new president, a new administration, new objectives… so they are not engaging more costs of persons and money in a policy that might be over at the end of this year.”

You admit that europe follows America, that europe is not able to lead on this

The founders of America left europe over 200 years ago because we tired of your oppressive socialist selfish elitist society

]]> By: franchie https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107692 franchie Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:10:16 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107692 <i>You admit that europe follows America, that europe is not able to lead on this </i> not exactly what I ment Nato was an american creation that purpose was to contain the communists in their land of URSS and make sure that they won't invade and mess the new created capitalist EU market ; now that geopolitic is different, the Nato goals must be redefined, who should lead this organisation, wether it's EU (if Nato is aimed to protect EU) wether it's US (if it is to protect the US interests); I don't think you care much of the EU protection anymore that it is obvious that EU has become a capitalist marcket You admit that europe follows America, that europe is not able to lead on this

not exactly what I ment

Nato was an american creation that purpose was to contain the communists in their land of URSS and make sure that they won’t invade and mess the new created capitalist EU market ;

now that geopolitic is different, the Nato goals must be redefined, who should lead this organisation, wether it’s EU (if Nato is aimed to protect EU) wether it’s US (if it is to protect the US interests); I don’t think you care much of the EU protection anymore that it is obvious that EU has become a capitalist marcket

]]> By: tom https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107990 tom Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:09:01 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-107990 franchie, you are mistaken. NATO was created by Western European states and the U.S. in 1949 as a military alliance to protect Western democracies. It had absolutely nothing to do with the EU, which by the way is a protectionist European trade organization in direct competition with "Le Grand Large". Why would America want to protect its primary economic competitor? D'abord il faut penser, et puis parler, mon ami. franchie, you are mistaken. NATO was created by Western European states and the U.S. in 1949 as a military alliance to protect Western democracies. It had absolutely nothing to do with the EU, which by the way is a protectionist European trade organization in direct competition with “Le Grand Large”.

Why would America want to protect its primary economic competitor? D’abord il faut penser, et puis parler, mon ami.

]]> By: franchie https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-108130 franchie Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:53:09 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/02/gates-tells-nato-allies-to-grow-a-pair/#comment-108130 ahah, Tom, tu as raison ; it's also right that we don't use much the expression western european states nowadays ; EU is the commun sense for almost everybody, except for the educated policy specialist as you seem to be :lol: anyway, I tend to write "ya see what I min" like an universal understanding ; I have learnt with the direct discussions here that that'sn't evident at all <i>primary economic competitor</i> that's true for the highest technologies, that you are spying, hehe, in case we would have better scores in selling them to the new born democratised muslin countries :lol: that's also true for the agricultural goods, that are as well sponserised in the both parts of the pond ... the rest is minor competiotion, uh, I forgot, your sportmen (à bicyclette) alike Amstrong, sponsorised by viagra, that we don't need here of course, vin rouge is still ok ahah, Tom, tu as raison ; it’s also right that we don’t use much the expression western european states nowadays ; EU is the commun sense for almost everybody, except for the educated policy specialist as you seem to be :lol:

anyway, I tend to write “ya see what I min” like an universal understanding ; I have learnt with the direct discussions here that that’sn’t evident at all

primary economic competitor

that’s true for the highest technologies, that you are spying, hehe, in case we would have better scores in selling them to the new born democratised muslin countries :lol:

that’s also true for the agricultural goods, that are as well sponserised in the both parts of the pond

…

the rest is minor competiotion,

uh, I forgot, your sportmen (à bicyclette) alike Amstrong, sponsorised by viagra, that we don’t need here of course, vin rouge is still ok

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