Karl Rove Wants Pat and Bash To Stop Calling Hussein “Hussein”

February 27th, 2008 Posted By Bash.

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Gee, Karl, I like you, I respect you, you’re a real smart guy, but…

No less an authority figure than Karl Rove has warned Republican operatives from demagoguing Barack Obama’s middle name.

At a closed door meeting of GOP state executive directors in late January, Rove said the safest way to refer to Obama would be to use his honorific, “Sen. Obama.”

“The context was, you’re not going to stigmatize this guy. You shouldn’t underestimate him,” one of the executive directors said. Rove said that the use of “Barack Hussein Obama” would perpetuate the notion that Republicans were bigoted and would hurt the party.

Rove also said that Republicans should refer to Hillary Clinton as “Sen. Clinton,” rather than “Hillary.”

Right wing figures are set to ignore Rove’s advice. Rush Limbaugh used Obama’s middle name more than a year ago, and Ann Coulter regularly uses the middle name, once calling him “President Hussein.” So does Michael Savage, who once asked whether Obama was a “so-called friendly Muslim” or one more “radical.”

(The Atlantic)


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42 Responses

  1. A. S. Wise- VA

    Meh if you ask me, this is all really lip service to act ‘civil’ in the campaign.

  2. drillanwr

    Okay, Karl …

    Just as soon as the other side stops calling the president “Bush”, intimating he’s the “fluff” between my legs …

    K?

    Is it REALLY that cold out? I mean, MINE seem to be “growing”, while some of the republicans’ and conservatives’ seem to be “shrinking” … I might be fooking able to “father” a child real soon here, boys!

  3. kurt(the infidel)

    Yeah well McCain threw Bill Cunningham under the bus yesterday for using his full name at a Rally and i think its complete bullshit. if a persons own name can be seen as a bad thing then maybe they need to look a little closer at the man bearing that name.

  4. LftBhndAgn

    If HUSSEIN is elected president, are they going to strike his middle name off ALL records? NO

    So why stop using his middle name now? SO he can get elected?

    BULLSHIT.

  5. dtodeen

    “Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain” :beer: :beer: :beer:

  6. dad3-7

    a.s.wise.. i agree,, they are saying this overtly to keep the right side of the campaign on a civil attack.. i really think that inside they like it..just like mccain and the radio guy yesterday..mccain was forced to tone down the rhetoric.. we are sick of the negative attacks that the “official” candidates have been doing the past few elections.. but we citizens can call a sppaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,, oooops.. we can say what we want,,just the candidates should be civil…

  7. dtodeen

    “Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain”"Hussain” :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

  8. Goodbye Natalie

    LOL! What a joke? How long we going to kiss clingers, slackers, race pimps, pagan libs, American hating traitors, and other deviant libbies before we understand being nice gets you nowhere with this scum? Like militant Muslims, libs understand one thing and one thing only - a punch to the balls, followed by an ass kicking, followed by a salvo.

    Look what being civil has done for Bush? He’s been called fascist, Hitler, Nazi, chickenhawk, winger, and every other vile name lefties can dream. They’ve done everything in their power to hurt him, country be damned.

    Screw ‘um if these cowards don’t want to hear the truth. And if Hussein wins, I got four years of real shiite for lib ears. And I’m going to blame them for everything that comes down the pike and I’ll be in their face while doing so. It will be my mission to make their lives as miserable as I possibly can, including mocking and laughing at them on a daily basis.

    I, for one, am not in the forgiving mood about selling out our country to the Muslims, U.N. and Europe the last seven years. Political correctness is just a nice name for liberal fascism. F ‘em.

  9. Lampligher

    Look, even if it’s true his middle name is Hussein, that Cleveland radio guy was obnoxious before all this, and he’s obnoxious now, and its clear he wants to disparrage Obama with his reference to “Hussein.” I don’t blame McCain for wanting to distance himself from the guy. There will be time for negative ads, mudslinging, etc. This isn’t the time for it. It’s too early. McCain doesn’t need this bigmouth radio guy to make him look bad right now. He has a right to control his own message. Apologizing for what the guy said is not “throwing him under the bus.” Maybe he doesn’t want rude people introducing him. He has a right.

  10. Tom in CO

    F that noise, I’ll call him Hussein as long I have to.

  11. KBar

    I don’t see what’s the big deal with middle names. Mine is “Hafez”. My confirmation name is “Jabeer”.

    Just your typical Irish-Catholic names.
    :beer:

  12. kurt(the infidel)

    :arrow: Lampligher

    Cunningham is no different than Limbaugh or any other conservative talk show host. he has been in Cincinnati for years. McCain said he didnt even know Cunningham which is completely false because McCain has been on his show before and other people have said they have had dinners together. I just think its odd when he starts disowning people for saying the word Hussein. Thats what i mean by “throwing him under the bus”

  13. POD1

    Only when it stops being his name should we stop calling him by it.

  14. Steve in NC

    BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT

    Beginning to tire of this, President Bush went in trying to bring civility to that nest of self serving bastards and now he knows that was foolish and costly. Now McCain wants to protect the old boy network over the security of this nation.

  15. Lamplighter

    :arrow: Kurt: I saw this guy on TV a while ago, and I thought he was a bit harsh, not ready for prime time. I understand his point, I just think it’s premature. Also, if you closely study Obama, he is one unflappable, likeable, always gives (so far) good answers, polite, warm candidate. So, attacking the man personally I don’t think is going to cut it. I think casting aspersions on whether he can be trusted, his advisors, his policies, his stances on issues, can legitimately do him damage. I think Obama studied Reagan’s 1980 campaign very closely (which is why he mentioned it earlier) and adopted Reagan’s generalized, optimistic, unifying message style.

  16. Mike in CA

    If he does get elected the first thing he’ll do is decree that he be addressed as “President Hussein”. Well, that and sign every tax bill that comes across his desk :beer: :beer: VP Kennedy in the corner, sipping scotch, singing in spanish.

  17. BILL

    LETS ALL RUSH OUT AND VOTE FOR THAT BASTARD MCCAIN!!!! HUH??

  18. BILL

    Lamplighter: YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP!! Hussain’s campaign is nothing like Reagan’s 1980 canpaign!! Reagan had a message this communist has message zero and you know it!

  19. trustme1013

    What a bunch of babies? Why stop calling him Hussein? So he can win? So we forget that he’s controversial?

    No frigging way.

    Hussein. Hussein. Hussein.

    Sticks and stones may break my bones …

    What a pussy.

  20. Steve in NC

    hey bill, are you waiting on Jesus Christ to enter the election?

  21. Monkey3531

    @drillanwr

    Just as soon as the other side stops calling the president “Bush”
    Couldn’t agree with you more. Not only do the ass bag politician libs refer to the President simply with his last name but way to many lib minded retards in this country do as well. President Bush is the freaking President for christsakes, whether a person voted for him or not, he’s still the President.

  22. B. Veener

    As far as sniping on an internet message board, calling him Hussein is fine.

    However, McCain is smart to not want to appear so petty and trite.

    Conservatives need to beat Obama by attacking his ideas and making the case to the American people why conservative principles will be in the best interest of the country, not engage in childish antics. “Sen. Obama” is far and away the best tool for that job.

  23. B. Veener

    Rove is absolutely right.

    I don’t understand some of the posts on here - think about about small-minded, petty, and laughable liberals look when they call our President “Bu$h” or any number of other names. Why do you think we look any less silly by trying to somehow use “Hussein” like some kind of slur? It fits into liberals arguments about conservatives too well - don’t make it that easy on them.

    Conservatives need to beat Obama by attacking his ideas and making the case to the American people why conservative principles will be in the best interest of the country, not engage in childish antics. “Sen. Obama” is far and away the best tool for that job - good for McCain (who I am not crazy about).

  24. Lamplighter

    :arrow: BILL: I know it’s hard, but read my lips: I said “message style,” not “message.” Maybe you should take language and semiotics lessons from Bill Buckley. Read some of his work so you can better understand. :gun: Take that.

  25. Bane

    It is not ‘trivial’ the the future President of these United States is a closet Muslim, with Muslim contacts, one of whom has given him millions of dollars.

    Muslims killed 3,000 people in New York. My sons are fighting Muslims in Iraq right now. Muslims are at war with the West, and giving them the high ground and playing by Queensbury rules is both suicidal, and foolish.

    And it is telling that the woman he chose to spend the rest of his life with has never been proud of her own country. Ever.

  26. TJ (The Kafir)

    Hussein is sensitive about his ears, his inexperience, his lack of accomplishments and his name, and so many want him to be president? why dont we elect Michael jackson as VP then? :oops:

  27. 0311inOHio

    Fuck Rove and fuck Hussein and his big ears.

  28. 0311inOHio

    Lets make things even then.. John Sidney McCain, John Sidney McCain, John Sidney McCain, nana-nana-nana-nana-nana-nana…. :beer:

  29. DC

    Hey Karl……sit down and STFU!

  30. Arthuraria

    Karl Rove is a very smart man. But his point of view is that of “Party First.” Party before Principles is no way to run a country. Conservatives know that they are not bigoted, and they don’t feel the need to prove that to anyone else. Approval-seeking behavior is the sign of an underdeveloped mind, and we should only be so bold to maintain our autonomy of thought and speech. It is no small matter that the man who very well could be our next President has very strong Muslim ties in a time when radical muslims are our greatest enemy. This is not something anyone should be afraid to point out. We all know that liberals calling Conservatives racists is an attempt to censor us. That is how the revolution of the proletariat works, suppression of the former ruling class by any means necessary. If Hussein is elected President, get ready for more bigotry on the parts of liberals toward conservatives.

  31. Eddie in Cali

    Its the truth so F off!! Hussein!!

  32. Monkey3531

    It sounds like the title of this post and its actual content are not really compatible.

    Karl Rove Wants Pat and Bash To Stop Calling Hussein “Hussein”
    Fuck that, Pat and Bash and all the rest of us are going to call a spade a spade. Most of us here loathe Hussein and thats how we are going to refer to the douche bag senator from Illinois.

    However, for the purpose of convincing the rest of America that McCain(or any other Conservative, please come back Fred!) is a better choice for President, Rove does make a good point.

  33. cclezel

    I am suppose to address them by their title? You are asking me, a retired member of the Armed Forces to address them as the honorable Senator Clinton or Obama? How about you kissing my white ass.

    Too many men and women have shed their blood for this nation for a fking politician to lecture me as to how I should address the asses in Washinton who are seeking the demise of not only this nation but then men and women who have paid in blood.

    When they start showing us their respect for all we have done, when they stop sending us to war only to force us in defeat, only then will I offer up the respect they deserve. Until then they can all kiss my fking ass Karl. Honor us by standing behind those you sent to war on behalf of this great nation.

  34. Maggie

    Call Obama any damn thing you want out here. Have a blast, but Rove is right. For pity’s sake the man put “W” in the White House twice.

  35. Brian H

    What Obummer needs to be called is out. Where’s Aaron Burr when you need him?

  36. ron

    I hate to say this but McCain did not throw Mr. Cunningham under the bus. It is McCains campaign let him run it his way. I am sure Mr. Cunningham would not like it is someone guest hosting his show said things that got him into trouble with the FCC or his employer!

  37. ( CAPT-DAX )

    “Hussain””Hussain””Hussain””Hussain””Hussain”
    “Hussain””Hussain””Hussain””Hussain… :evil:

  38. Texas Mom

    The point really is this - If McCain will stab a conservative in the back for some silly name calling . . . think of the stabbing he will do when elected - hopefully, when elected . . . yes, I said hopefully . . .

    I am going to vote for his ass - McCain - in November, but I am not going to like it.

    McCain is NO friend of Conservatives. Watch your back.

    PS: Notice how we have new “professional” McCain ass kissers on this site - we have the same ole’ young and naive McCain lovers - but look around at the new posters for McCain - How much do you guys make? Posting for McCain could not be a very high-paying job?

  39. Trevor

    I agree that calling Obama “Hussein” makes you look like you’re just looking for a cheap shot.

    That’s because it *is* a cheap shot. The partisans will vote the way they’re going to vote anyway, but:

    How do cheap shots win over undecided voters? :???:

  40. KBoomr113

    Good Rovian tactics right there. McCain gets to be polite to his competition, which moderates respect and will recognize as a major positive in a few months, when the libs start throwing temper tantrums. Furthermore, by telling us we shouldn’t call him Hussein, it gets us calling him Hussein more. The more conservatives think of President Hussein, the more I’m excited to vote against President Hussein. Rove really is a genius.

    FYI - Just voted today for McCain in the Ohio primary on my absentee ballot since I’ll be on another deployment. Can’t wait to do it again in november.

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  42. marvin

    It is a question of fairness:
    this race is between
    B Hussein Obama vs J Sydney McCain
    or
    Hussein vs Sydney

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