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Ooooooh boy. Gonna be trouble in Suffolk.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:56 amsaw a little of this on fox. they were not even on the guy’s property if i heard this correct. sounds like we are starting to use affirmative action in sentencing criminals now. let me see here. i can walk to the end of my driveway and point a gun at a group of unarmed blacks for yelling cuss words and shoot one point blank in the face. and get maybe a year. hell by the time i call my buddy jj and rev al i probably will get a check from the gov.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:03 amHmm, according to the screenshot, Turkey pulled out too soon. I guess Iraq isn’t on the pill.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:06 amodumba will straighten it out…
March 20th, 2008 at 8:08 amHow long are we going to sit back and keep taking this bullshit?
March 20th, 2008 at 8:21 amWhats the big deal? You bring 10 boys looking to start trouble on my door step late at night you’d probably get the same from me
March 20th, 2008 at 8:31 amDavid, I agree. If the pappy had exercised better control over his white punk on dope he wouldn’t be dead. He learned how to be he from you.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:41 am
! i most likely would of done the same.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:51 amWhat happened to a warning shot? Did he really have to shoot an unarmed guy in the face to disperse a crowd? It sounds (from the outside looking in) like race had everything to do with the verdict.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:38 amI wasnt there. I havent heard the evidence. I can’t pass judgement. What I did see was a bunch of skinheads. Model citizens I’m sure.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:14 amniggers
March 20th, 2008 at 10:38 amYou come onto my property with two cars of drunk kids looking for trouble, you’re gonna find it. I feel no smypathy for that kid.
Bill - are you a liberal trying to make us look bad?
March 20th, 2008 at 11:09 amDannyboy - the jury came back with a guilty verdict. The judge (not the jury) gave him a sentence on the low end - that has nothing to do with the verdict or jury.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:10 amBill, take your white supremacy someplace else. If the races were reversed everyone would be up in arms that some judge had the nerve to give a white guy, protecting his family from 10 black kids, jail time. Next time that guy should teach his remaining kids not to go along with the crowd and do something illegal, or suffer the consequences. I am sure that they were threatening just like the father was on TV. If he says that in public, what do you think his kids were saying to the guy and his son? My only question is, why stop at one? Hate is hate, no matter the color of the person spewing it.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:25 amThere are no good guys in this story and the circumstances are very muddled. The kids were punks and the guy is a lying nut. He first started saying he shot the kid by accident, then started saying he feared for his life. What I think happened is they called him a nigger and he lost it. If I shot everyone who called me a honky they’d be digging mass graves.
They weren’t even on his property when it happened. He went over to them. He should’ve said, “I called the cops. If you’re still here when they get here, I’ll have you all arrested.” Instead he started waving his gun in their faces and got into a screaming match that ended in blood.
The whole thing started because some sick fuck falsely claimed the guy’s son was saying he was going to rape a girl the kids knew. Being young, drunk, and stupid, they went looking for him. I can understand that. But what they did was wrong.
The guy looks out his window and sees a mob looking to do his son harm, so he grabbed a gun and confronted them. I can understand that, too, but he did the wrong thing as well.
I wouldn’t convict him of murder, but he sure as shit shouldn’t have walked away scott-free. Manslaughter sounds about right, but he’ll only wind up serving two years or less. I’d have given him at least five. The judge was too lenient.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:58 pmI agree with ticticboom, Its pretty clear the white kids were a bunch of delinquent assholes without any doubt.
However the black Father with the illegally owned gun and ammunition (if true) is a felony, not to mention the murder. He shot a kids face off, you give a verbal warning (and perhaps fire off a round or two) and then maybe you’re in the rights to shoot someone who is attempting to attack you (verbal threats don’t count).
three-four years? you’ve got to be kidding me.
Yes both sides were “racially motivated” but wtf, now we make exceptions to murder?
March 20th, 2008 at 3:32 pmMy dad taught me these 4 basic rules of firearms when I was just knee-high to a grasshopper….
1 Every firearm is loaded, regardless of what you might think.
2 Do not touch a firearm unless you have a valid reason.
…..(I’ve always had such a hard time with that one, sigh)
3 Do not point a firearm at anyone (thing) you do not intend to kill.
4 You are the ultimate safety device, mechanisms can fail.
Mr White should’ve grabbed his weapon,locked and loaded.
Called the police and hunkered down, watching from behind a locked door.
That he went out and confronted 10 kids who were on public property, the street, or on a public easement, the sidewalk, shows piss-poor judgment.
10-1, close quarters is not good odds, even if you do have the only gun.
If he headshot the kid, that, to me, shows intent (see rule #3).
Ignorance is no excuse, but I’m a prick when it comes to gun safety and responsibility.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Bill,
March 20th, 2008 at 4:35 pmDon’t come into Pat’s blog and hit and run with such racial hits. We do not use such words here.
You must be a demorat hit and run troll.
Two wrongs most certainly ever do not make a right. As a matter of fact, it leads to in this case, a third wrong.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:57 pmThose kids were no doubt punks. But nobody deserved to die. The black man should feel safe in his home/property, but he is wrong in murdering the boy. Both are wrong. And the last wrong is the judge. If it was the judge and not the jury who passed the setence, then he/she should step down with the PC ideals that he/she carries. This guy deserved 25 to life easy. Period.
Gonna be trouble in Suffolk County.
Two wrongs most certainly ever do not make a right. As a matter of fact, it leads to in this case, a third wrong.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:58 pmThose kids were no doubt punks. But nobody deserved to die. The black man should feel safe in his home/property, but he is wrong in murdering the boy. Both are wrong. And the last wrong is the judge. If it was the judge and not the jury who passed the sentence, then he/she should step down with the PC ideals that he/she carries. This guy deserved 25 to life easy. Period.
Gonna be trouble in Suffolk County.
The Judge determines what the sentence is within a range - apparently the statutory range for manslaughter has a low end (2 years) - the system gives the judge a lot of leeway in determining sentencing.
I think he deserved zero years. I hate to say it, but if it had been a gang of black kids out in that neighborhood attacking a white guy, they probably wouldn’t have arrested him.
What I’m bothered by is the way cases like this erode gun rights - I would rather have seen this case stand for a stronger precedent that you can defend one’s property with a firearm. In light of the recent debate about the second amendment, I wish I could have held up his acquittal as a reaffirmance of “gun rights”. Instead he was convicted.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:29 pmI think the guy should have gotten a worse sentence but I don’t know the circumstances. But doesn’t anybody discipline their kids anymore? That kid wouldn’t have gotten shot if the dad had taught him to respect adults and not be a drunk punk kid. The world is so screwed up. Crap, my dad would’ve kicked my ass and he still would for doing something stupid like that.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:33 pmB.Veener-you’re a schmuck!where was anything reported about these white kids “attacking” anyone?are you nucking futs? zero years? WTF? Even if this group of kids was trash-talking at the end of the driveway,still no reason to run outside and MURDER someone for talking trash. A similar incident happened to me and my daughter,when a group of kids,male and female,came to my house,calling her out;threatening her with bodily harm. I simply locked down the entire house,and called the police.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:30 pmReagan T.-you’re schmuck #2!so,what you’re saying is basically you would have shot the kid too? quote”That kid wouldn’t have gotten shot if the dad had taught him to respect adults and not be a drunk punk kid.”unquote. ?????? sounds like you’re justifying what happened. Since when is it okay to murder someone because they are drunk or disrespectful to you??
For anyone who thinks, “A white guy shooting a black kid woulda walked,” let me tell you a little story.
I know an Italian guy who saw his father and brother-in-law getting beaten to death by a black guy with a baseball bat. He was an off-duty cop, and had his gun on him. He shot the guy, as he was raising the bat for another swing, killing him. He probably saved the lives of his father and brother-in-law.
He was convicted of murder and sentenced to TWENTY YEARS.
State-sponsored discrimination is alive and well in America.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:46 pmOh crap. I don’t think the kid should’ve gotten shot!! But if he wasn’t an idiot he never would have been in this situation and gotten killed. I personally have never been shot at and I think its because I’m not an idiot.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:04 pmI’m sorry but a large group of boys are stupid enough to come to my house and make threats towards my son, im no police officer, i feel threatened I’m going to take the fight to them. I warning shot might have been the best thing, but i can understand shooting one of the kids. How would he know if they werent armed?
March 20th, 2008 at 9:04 pmWarning shot warning shot warning shot warning shot!
Clearly his intention was to kill this boy, not protect himself.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:50 pmremember the TX guy with the shotgun he used on the illegals who were robbing his neighbors?
(Whites were happy, black panthers showed up…)
if one is ok and one is not, we need to discuss the differences…
illegals weren’t on public property and were commiting a crime at the time (obviously)(don’t say they were illegals, TX guy didn’t know that when he smoked them)
white kids were on public property but were threatening
any ideas on drawing more distinctions? I can think of more but I want to hear other opinions… plus I have no idea if the TX guy has even gone to court over this…
March 21st, 2008 at 6:20 amreaganmarine84 -
I would defend my family with my god-given right to bear firearms. I don’t think this guy did anything different.
I don’t understand these people talking about “warning shots” - firing a warning shot could be dangerous (hit someone a few blocks away intentionally). Those of us familiar with basic firearm safety know that you only fire at something you intend to hit.
Cases like this will be used as an excuse to further strip of of our gun rights.
March 21st, 2008 at 8:23 am