Muslim Anger As Anti-Koran Film Hits Web
AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - The Netherlands government tried to defuse Muslim anger after the release of a film by a Dutch lawmaker that accuses the Koran of inciting violence and shows an image of the Prophet Mohammad primed to explode.
Islam critic Geert Wilders launched his movie on Thursday evening. Titled “Fitna,” a Koranic term sometimes translated as “strife,” it intersperses images of the September 11, 2001 attacks and other Islamist bombings with quotations from the Koran.
The film warns that the rising number of Muslims in the Netherlands and the rest of Europe threatens democratic societies. It urges Muslims to tear out “hate-filled” verses from the Koran.
After the caption “The Netherlands in the future?” the film shows images of gay men being executed, children with bloody faces, a woman being stoned and genital mutilation.
It concludes with a cartoon of the Prophet Mohammad with a bomb under his turban, originally published in Danish newspapers, accompanied by the sound of ticking.
The Dutch government has distanced itself from Wilders’ views, hoping to avert the kind of Muslim backlash Denmark suffered in 2006 over cartoons of Mohammad.
Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende said he hoped there would not be a violent reaction to the film.
“We believe it serves no purpose other than to cause offence,” Balkenende said. “But feeling offended should never be used as an excuse for aggression and threats.”
He said the Netherlands was in contact with Muslim countries and Dutch exporters and that he was heartened by the initial restraint of Dutch Muslims.
PROTESTS
Before the film’s release, demonstrators had already taken to the streets from Afghanistan to Indonesia to burn Dutch and Danish flags, and the governments of Pakistan and Iran sharply criticized the project.
NATO has expressed concern the film could worsen security for foreign forces in Afghanistan, including 1,650 Dutch troops.
Brahim Bourzik, a spokesman for a Dutch Moroccan group, said mosques would open their doors to the public on Friday in an effort to defuse tension.
A court in Rotterdam is due to hear an injunction against Wilders on Friday brought by the Dutch Islamic Federation. The politician said on Thursday the film did not break any laws.
Wilders has been under heavy guard because of Islamist death threats since the 2004 murder of Dutch director Theo van Gogh after he made a film critical of Islam’s treatment of women.
His killing by a Dutch-Moroccan militant triggered a wave of unrest in the Netherlands, home to almost 1 million Muslims out of a population of 16 million. Mosques, churches and Muslim schools were firebombed.
Earlier this month, Dutch security officials raised the national risk level to “substantial” because of the Wilders film and perceptions of an increased al Qaeda threat. They also asked all Dutch politicians to register their public appearances.
Dutch exporters have expressed fears of a possible boycott in the Muslim world, though trade with such countries makes up only a few percentage points of total exports. There is also concern for 25,000 Dutch citizens living in Muslim countries.
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To be under guard in your own country says it all. Stop letting these people in to Holland and the rest of Europe. There should be a moratorium on all Islamic groups entering and the Europeans should start populating their own countries with their own children. They all act as if global warming is more of a threat than Islamization. They are all so worried about their carbon footprint that they don’t see they may be carbonized by some bomb next to their bus.
March 28th, 2008 at 2:58 amfools, afraid it might upset the muslims?
March 28th, 2008 at 3:46 amwhy aren’t muslims seen and heard in the battle against the ‘hijacking’ of their religion? because they are not upset with the slaughter of infidels, they sit at home and smile at the news reports. They watch their soldiers attack the free nations and wait for the time in which the beauty of islam is global and the final solution has been achieved.
Hey, Muslims are pissed off about something.
NEWS FLASH!
March 28th, 2008 at 4:14 amThe time has come for a final solution on Islam.
March 28th, 2008 at 4:21 amWhat are the mooselimbs mad about? The truth of what they believe going public? Maybe they’re really mad at themselves and don’t know it. Their thinking processes are screwed up enough for that to happen.
I pray that if there ever comes a time in the USA that mooselimbs start threatening protests that the government shuts them down really, really hard. Spray them with swine blood as they get shot. Yes, I really do mean it.
March 28th, 2008 at 6:00 amOrganized religion has done this through out history and it is why I say it is evil. When is the world going to get tired of appeasing groups. If they want to be pissed off let them. It comes down to we need to make it very clear no matter what your group is you can believe what you want but the minute you try to force others to believe your way or persecute others for their beliefs we will eliminate your group.
March 28th, 2008 at 6:27 am“we’re the religion of peace, offend us and we’ll kill you!”
March 28th, 2008 at 7:41 amI second Mike Mose’s suggestion.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:06 am@Ang
“Organized religion has done this through out history and it is why I say it is evil”
Obviously you still can’t tell the difference between that which is good and that which is evil.
Where’s all the Christian jihadis fucktard? Hmmm….I don’t see any? And the Jewish ones? Don’t see any of them either?
Muslim ones? I see plenty of those. Must be that death cult philosophy of theirs.
I don’t see no death cult philosophy in Judaism or Christianity. Where’s the Christian or Jewish equivalent of “slaying or to be slain in Jihad” as the promise of Paradise in the NT or OT??? Where is it written in Jewish or Christian philosophy that they are to spread the word of God by the sword? It ain’t there. And where is the name Allah or Ahmed in the Scriptures hmmm?
History is past… and replete with mistakes by Westerners…which culminated in the great Western societies they bacame. So fucking what?
I don’t see any of the same kind of metamorphisis over the 1300 years of Islam.
Trying to lump all religions with a so-called religion such as Islam is pure sophistry on your part.
You got a bad case of Cranial Rectal Inversion. Here’s a suggestion: Get your head out of your ass. Do some real thinking for a change and study Christianty, Judaism and Islam…instead of buying into SAid, Chompsky or Zinn.
Wake the fuck up.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Way to go Geert. Great film . I hope many, many people see it. Get your act together Holland before it is to late.
Mike Mose: Great point, the time has come for a final solution on Islam. 
March 28th, 2008 at 10:11 amIslam sucks. Mohammed sucks plus he was a pedaphile. The world will be a better place without them.
One more thing. To all jihadis in the USA. Get pissed. Please do.
March 28th, 2008 at 11:28 amI don’t have anything to add about the Religion Of Perpetual Outrage/Victimhood…I think y’all hit the nail on the head!
I have a question for Dan(TheInfidel) though. Don’t take this the wrong way, but are you sure you didn’t jump the gun a bit there on Ang? I feel your passion about Islam and jihadis, believe me…and I agree they’re a scourge. But that seemed a little over the top.
Admittedly I haven’t been posting comments for long (I’m trying to kick a nasty case of the flu so I’ve had too much time on my hands the last few days), but from what I’ve seen/read I don’t think Ang is a troll.
You agree with this statement from Ang right? : It comes down to we need to make it very clear no matter what your group is you can believe what you want but the minute you try to force others to believe your way or persecute others for their beliefs we will eliminate your group.
And no, I’m not trying to censor you in anyway or start anything with you. Just sincerely asking if you might have misunderstood what Ang was trying to say, and/or might have reacted more like a follower of the Religion Of Perpetual Outrage/Victimhood would react then how a Christian would?
I didn’t get the impression that Ang was singling out Christianity and specifically attacking it. Anyway, Christianity isn’t a “religion” is it? The Christianity I try to practice is based on a relationship and a “rulebook” (the Bible), not a religion. A relationship between each person that wants to have a personal relationship with almighty God, through the sacrifice He made at Calvary when He walked on earth in human form. That relationship is nurtured and strengthened by getting to know Him in everyway through studying His Word (the Bible) and striving to obey Him.
Isn’t it possible to be a real Christian who sincerely loves God/Jesus/The Holy Spirit and walks with the Lord and strengthens their relationship with Him by reading His Word (The Bible) and strives to obey Him, and yet NOT attend any particular church? Or do you have to specifically be a Catholic, or a Baptist, or a Lutheran, etc?
I believe I’m a Christian and I love God and try to obey Him (in other words, I try to live it, not just talk about it). But I would hang out everyday of the week with an Atheist who lived their life in a moral way (even if those morals were not based on the Bible per se, but rather on the person’s interpretation of secular laws, i.e. - No murder, rape, theft, etc), rather than spend a single minute with a dope that follows the jihadi way of the Religion Of Perpetual Outrage/Victimhood, or with one of the massively hypocritical “Christians” I’ve encountered (like my neighbors…more about them below).
I have neighbors that are the most hypocritical, lying, evil bastards I’ve ever had to live next to. Yet, they go to a “Christian” church twice a week. Their day to day behavior is most definitely NOT Christian. It’s so bad I had to purchase a 4 camera surveillance system for my house so I can record all their vandalization of our property, unbelievably loud stereo blaring all the time, constantly throwing trash in our yard, etc etc etc.
And no, we’ve never done anything to them or reciprocated in anyway. The only thing they could ever say “against” us is we don’t want to socialize with them! Hmm yeah, that’s how I choose ALL my friends…I first find out if they practice criminal behavior and then lie about it while claiming the whole time to be “good Christians”, then I plead with them to be my friend.
Anyway, don’t take offense. I’m just throwing that out there to ponder and if I’m wrong then I’ll learn something.
March 28th, 2008 at 4:25 pmThere is alot of discussion about the moral equivalence between organized religious cruelty by Christians as opposed to Muslims historically. Church history is indefensible. But let me say this, The Bible does NOT tell people to go to war and kill infidels. Those people that had done that were following corrupt institutions. They were huge screw ups.
BUT THE KORAN DOES TEACH THAT!
There is no moral equivalence.
March 28th, 2008 at 6:20 pmjasons dad
March 29th, 2008 at 4:05 ami get tired of hearing all the bc, ad crap. christians have killed more people than any other religions bullshit. they can dwell on shit that happened thousands of years ago and think they can make a decision on whats happening now.
the fact of the matter is, America is under siege. Not just by islam. but by people that want to take God out of the equation. To me Christianty is not a religion but a way of life……………Isn’t it possible to be a real Christian who sincerely loves God/Jesus/The Holy Spirit and walks with the Lord and strengthens their relationship with Him by reading His Word (The Bible) and strives to obey Him, and yet NOT attend any particular church? Yes….You sound like a good man and a good Chritian. Your neigbor does not.
violence begats violence. I agree with Dan… Ang and others like Ang need to wake up. The gates of heaven are closing and evil is knocking at the door.
can anybody explain why i cant post anything but one liners?
March 29th, 2008 at 4:08 amThanks for the reply, I appreciate it. I must have seriously misunderstood what Ang was saying, because I didn’t see where he / she wrote anything about, or implied in anyway that Christians throughout history have killed more people than other religions, etc.
I got the impression Ang was talking about the legalistic side of organized religion (all of them). You know, all the man made rules, regulations and rituals, etc that a lot of “religious” people say you have to follow to go to heaven and / or for you to be a “good / real” member of *insert name of religion here*.
Many of those people “interpret” those rules, regulations, and rituals, etc in a way that has a tendency to serve their own needs / desires (usually selfish and evil), instead of God.
Legalism, ritualism, rules and regulations set forth by humans…I feel He made it clear he instead wants people to strive for spirituality and following the laws He made. By spirituality, I mean a spirit filled relationship with Him, that influences your daily behavior….in other words, He lives inside you and you live for Him.
By man made rules, regulations and rituals, etc, I mean from the simplest things like Muslims having to kneel on a rug and “pray” a rote mechanical string of words 5 times a day, to the extreme of Muslims demanding that everyone convert to Islam or they’ll not only be prevented from going to heaven, they’ll be murdered for not converting.
Those kind of man made rules, regulations and rituals, etc, are in all religions. That’s not to say they are all the same. Just that they do exist in all organized religions.
Like Catholics believing that “works” are part of what’s necessary to achieve salvation and that if you don’t agree, you are anathema (which is how they feel about Protestants). See Council Of Trent for reference.
Or some Pentocostals believing that if you don’t have the gift of speaking in tongues then you aren’t really a Christian or saved (since they believe if you are saved, you will be given the gift of speaking in tongues).
Obviously we could go down a huge list of that kind of legalism, ritualism, rules and regulations set forth by human religions that range from benign, to some that have clearly not been kind or helpful to mankind at all. But I don’t think that’s necessary to make my point.
Anyway, I could be wrong, but I think that was the point that Ang was trying to make…the difference between “religion” and “spirituality”.
Thanks for the kind words. Not sure I’m that good of a guy, but I try. I’m always learning, so there is hope for me yet.
As for my neighbors, I’m only human…they’re on my last nerve. This crap has been going on for over 5 years. I stay in shape (force of habit from my Army days), and I go to the range at least once a week. So if they continue to escalate the situation, they’re unfortunately going to see what happens when I ask God for a timeout so I can go over to the darkside of the force for a few minutes.
March 29th, 2008 at 5:28 pm