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	<title>Comments on: New York Times Claims Bushhitler/Pentagon Using Mind Control On Americans</title>
	<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/</link>
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		<title>By: drillanwr (hembra blanca típica)</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143750</link>
		<author>drillanwr (hembra blanca típica)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143750</guid>
					<description>:arrow: NYTimes

Tell us what you think about the "information and opinion controlling" tactics of wartime Lincoln and wartime FDR ... in the media AND with the Congress ... ?

Get back real soon on that, as I do have a slight degree of adult ADD that I selfishly pamper and refuse to correct ...

You have 12 hours ...

 :gun: GO!!</description>
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<p>Tell us what you think about the &#8220;information and opinion controlling&#8221; tactics of wartime Lincoln and wartime FDR &#8230; in the media AND with the Congress &#8230; ?</p>
<p>Get back real soon on that, as I do have a slight degree of adult ADD that I selfishly pamper and refuse to correct &#8230;</p>
<p>You have 12 hours &#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_gun.gif' alt=':gun:' class='wp-smiley' /> GO!!</p>
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		<title>By: lobogris</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143758</link>
		<author>lobogris</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143758</guid>
					<description>:arrow: drillanwr.  
Tell us what you think about the “information and opinion controlling” tactics of wartime Lincoln and wartime FDR … in the media AND with the Congress … ?

Apparently EVERY day is a brand-new day for some people. :lol:  Especially when they are in front of a camera.</description>
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Tell us what you think about the “information and opinion controlling” tactics of wartime Lincoln and wartime FDR … in the media AND with the Congress … ?</p>
<p>Apparently EVERY day is a brand-new day for some people. <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  Especially when they are in front of a camera.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan (The Infidel)</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143760</link>
		<author>Dan (The Infidel)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143760</guid>
					<description>Wow what an agenda the NY Slime has. And what is the agenda of some of these military pundits? Could it be that they are such asswipes that the Pentagon no longer wants them around? Could it be that their shithead rep WHILE in service has followed them around after service?

Listen civilians, if the Pentagon is willing to give you a tour of what is going on behind the scenes and you come back with some smartass remarks while in front of the camera in opposition to the facts; then don't be surprised if the Pentagon flips you the bird.

And don't be surprised if folks who actually know a good deal about the inner workings of the Pentagon and the GWOT diss you as well.

But I digress....

The NY Slimes: All the news that's fit to obfuscate; and all the sophistry that you need for any news day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow what an agenda the NY Slime has. And what is the agenda of some of these military pundits? Could it be that they are such asswipes that the Pentagon no longer wants them around? Could it be that their shithead rep WHILE in service has followed them around after service?</p>
<p>Listen civilians, if the Pentagon is willing to give you a tour of what is going on behind the scenes and you come back with some smartass remarks while in front of the camera in opposition to the facts; then don&#8217;t be surprised if the Pentagon flips you the bird.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t be surprised if folks who actually know a good deal about the inner workings of the Pentagon and the GWOT diss you as well.</p>
<p>But I digress&#8230;.</p>
<p>The NY Slimes: All the news that&#8217;s fit to obfuscate; and all the sophistry that you need for any news day.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeMose</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143784</link>
		<author>MikeMose</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143784</guid>
					<description>The NY Times and MSM make people seek information on the Web.
They are driving the force that  will replace them.

How many people believe the NYTimes? 
How many people know that the NYT will lie to benefit the Democrats?
How many people know that the NYT will support the enemies of America?

Everyone knows..........Just like CBS,ABC,NBC,CNN,MSNBC they are all the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NY Times and MSM make people seek information on the Web.<br />
They are driving the force that  will replace them.</p>
<p>How many people believe the NYTimes?<br />
How many people know that the NYT will lie to benefit the Democrats?<br />
How many people know that the NYT will support the enemies of America?</p>
<p>Everyone knows&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Just like CBS,ABC,NBC,CNN,MSNBC they are all the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Sailor</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143805</link>
		<author>Old Sailor</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143805</guid>
					<description>I don't think anyone is being "fooled" by these ex-generals and whatnot. Everyone knows that they represent the military point of view, and that, in general, there is a lot of agreement by these folks. Why is this some kind of sin to allow them to express their opinions? 

Or is the "sin" (from the viewpoint of the commie-lib media) that they are allowed to express their views at all? I think the latter is the case. What the commie-lib media wants is the bad old days when there were only 3 networks controlling all news and information being "fed" to the American public, and all three of them were controlled by Liberals. So the "sin" in their eyes is allowing any other viewpoint than their own. Nonsense!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone is being &#8220;fooled&#8221; by these ex-generals and whatnot. Everyone knows that they represent the military point of view, and that, in general, there is a lot of agreement by these folks. Why is this some kind of sin to allow them to express their opinions? </p>
<p>Or is the &#8220;sin&#8221; (from the viewpoint of the commie-lib media) that they are allowed to express their views at all? I think the latter is the case. What the commie-lib media wants is the bad old days when there were only 3 networks controlling all news and information being &#8220;fed&#8221; to the American public, and all three of them were controlled by Liberals. So the &#8220;sin&#8221; in their eyes is allowing any other viewpoint than their own. Nonsense!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dbo</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143809</link>
		<author>Dbo</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143809</guid>
					<description>speaking of the Times, columnist Lary Bloom, recently wrote an article about me. I met him at my school and I guess he was interested in my writing and my personal story of marine to college student.

Supposedly it is a nice, a-political, human interest story about the service of veterans and their transition to the civilian world. Who knows though, I'm not holding my breath. Reporters like to take stuff out of context. It doesn't come out till the 27th.

Anyway, I just thought that was relevant (and admittedly I wanted to plug the piece). I hope some good things that our military does get out through the article written about me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of the Times, columnist Lary Bloom, recently wrote an article about me. I met him at my school and I guess he was interested in my writing and my personal story of marine to college student.</p>
<p>Supposedly it is a nice, a-political, human interest story about the service of veterans and their transition to the civilian world. Who knows though, I&#8217;m not holding my breath. Reporters like to take stuff out of context. It doesn&#8217;t come out till the 27th.</p>
<p>Anyway, I just thought that was relevant (and admittedly I wanted to plug the piece). I hope some good things that our military does get out through the article written about me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarhead68</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143814</link>
		<author>Jarhead68</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143814</guid>
					<description>Hah!!!  CNN was having a ball with this earlier today.  Every liberal who hears about this story will buy it hook, line and sinker and use it as a 'gotcha' to try to win the debate about Iraq.  Problem is that the bloggers and Fox will dig into it and, in a few days, will have the rest of the facts that will totally undermine the Slimes' story.  But the Slimes will never amend or correct their story and most of the country will then believe the Bush Lied People Died meme.  All so predictable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah!!!  CNN was having a ball with this earlier today.  Every liberal who hears about this story will buy it hook, line and sinker and use it as a &#8216;gotcha&#8217; to try to win the debate about Iraq.  Problem is that the bloggers and Fox will dig into it and, in a few days, will have the rest of the facts that will totally undermine the Slimes&#8217; story.  But the Slimes will never amend or correct their story and most of the country will then believe the Bush Lied People Died meme.  All so predictable.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Stockwell-Moniz</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143862</link>
		<author>Marc Stockwell-Moniz</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143862</guid>
					<description>:arrow: Old Sailor: Commie Lib Media always has Wes Clark to help them and a few more. Just that he readily comes to mind. Hard for me to say this about a person who rose to the rank he did but, Ret. General W. Clark is a first class puke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif' alt=':arrow:' class='wp-smiley' /> Old Sailor: Commie Lib Media always has Wes Clark to help them and a few more. Just that he readily comes to mind. Hard for me to say this about a person who rose to the rank he did but, Ret. General W. Clark is a first class puke.</p>
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		<title>By: drillanwr (hembra blanca típica)</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143936</link>
		<author>drillanwr (hembra blanca típica)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143936</guid>
					<description>:arrow: Dbo 

Make sure one of us gets a link to that story here so we can get it on ... :beer: 

Maggie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif' alt=':arrow:' class='wp-smiley' /> Dbo </p>
<p>Make sure one of us gets a link to that story here so we can get it on &#8230; <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif' alt=':beer:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Maggie</p>
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		<title>By: Dbo</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143951</link>
		<author>Dbo</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143951</guid>
					<description>:arrow: Drillanwr

Will do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif' alt=':arrow:' class='wp-smiley' /> Drillanwr</p>
<p>Will do!</p>
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		<title>By: Lock and Load</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143956</link>
		<author>Lock and Load</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143956</guid>
					<description>Kenneth Allard.... said the campaign amounted to a sophisticated information operation. “This was a coherent, active policy,” he said.

“Night and day,” Mr. Allard said, “I felt we’d been hosed.”


If anyone wants to hear a sophisticated information operation, and feel like they have been hosed, they should catch one of the network headline loops that Rush Limbaugh puts together for his show. You get to hear every major network announce a breaking or important story, using identical intro lines and often verbatim terms - remember the term "gravitas" from a few elections ago?  :wink: 

The catch is that nobody can watch all the news shows at once, so you cannot really see how orchestrated the whole thing is - until you hear Rush's loop, and then you can hear quite clearly how the networks are hosing us all by trying to claim that they are unbiased or have no hidden agenda. :roll:

Of course they will jump on this so-called story of Bush media manipulation, because they need to cover their own tracks by throwing the attention somewhere else for a while.

Rush has often said, look at what the left accuses the right of doing, because that is what they themselves are doing most of the time!! :evil:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenneth Allard&#8230;. said the campaign amounted to a sophisticated information operation. “This was a coherent, active policy,” he said.</p>
<p>“Night and day,” Mr. Allard said, “I felt we’d been hosed.”</p>
<p>If anyone wants to hear a sophisticated information operation, and feel like they have been hosed, they should catch one of the network headline loops that Rush Limbaugh puts together for his show. You get to hear every major network announce a breaking or important story, using identical intro lines and often verbatim terms - remember the term &#8220;gravitas&#8221; from a few elections ago?  <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The catch is that nobody can watch all the news shows at once, so you cannot really see how orchestrated the whole thing is - until you hear Rush&#8217;s loop, and then you can hear quite clearly how the networks are hosing us all by trying to claim that they are unbiased or have no hidden agenda. <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Of course they will jump on this so-called story of Bush media manipulation, because they need to cover their own tracks by throwing the attention somewhere else for a while.</p>
<p>Rush has often said, look at what the left accuses the right of doing, because that is what they themselves are doing most of the time!! <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Q_Mech</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143985</link>
		<author>Q_Mech</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143985</guid>
					<description>:arrow: Dbo - good luck with that.  I'm a former Marine and college graduate myself, and I get asked "why did you join?" quite frequently.  However, it seems that the folks who ask are only trying to find a neat, media-provided cubbyhole to peg me into rather than being truly interested in any answer I have to offer.  I've taken to answering it by stating that I believe it is very important to serve rather than simply to receive what our country has to offer.  I think I'm the only one who is happy with that answer.  :roll:

Anyway; let us know how it turns out, and cut loose a link when it comes out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif' alt=':arrow:' class='wp-smiley' /> Dbo - good luck with that.  I&#8217;m a former Marine and college graduate myself, and I get asked &#8220;why did you join?&#8221; quite frequently.  However, it seems that the folks who ask are only trying to find a neat, media-provided cubbyhole to peg me into rather than being truly interested in any answer I have to offer.  I&#8217;ve taken to answering it by stating that I believe it is very important to serve rather than simply to receive what our country has to offer.  I think I&#8217;m the only one who is happy with that answer.  <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway; let us know how it turns out, and cut loose a link when it comes out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dbo</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143997</link>
		<author>Dbo</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-143997</guid>
					<description>:arrow: Q - mech

Thanks for the interest. I must say though - as far as what my country had to offer me - I actually don't get any money from the government for college even though I served honorably in combat twice because I was a reservist (I only get the GI bill at a pro-rated amount if I stay attached to a unit which is self-defeating because I would just continually deploy and not get to go to college). I think thats going to be a part of the story and a reason I agreed to it; reservists are used as much as active duty forces these days and the laws and benefits have not caught up yet.

I did get to talk about civil affairs, my mos, which is a very unheard of yet crucial job to winning the war in Iraq. We do all the good stuff the media never talks about, until now hopefully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif' alt=':arrow:' class='wp-smiley' /> Q - mech</p>
<p>Thanks for the interest. I must say though - as far as what my country had to offer me - I actually don&#8217;t get any money from the government for college even though I served honorably in combat twice because I was a reservist (I only get the GI bill at a pro-rated amount if I stay attached to a unit which is self-defeating because I would just continually deploy and not get to go to college). I think thats going to be a part of the story and a reason I agreed to it; reservists are used as much as active duty forces these days and the laws and benefits have not caught up yet.</p>
<p>I did get to talk about civil affairs, my mos, which is a very unheard of yet crucial job to winning the war in Iraq. We do all the good stuff the media never talks about, until now hopefully.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Williams</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-144034</link>
		<author>Diana Williams</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 07:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/new-york-times-claims-bushhitlerpentagon-using-mind-control-on-americans/#comment-144034</guid>
					<description>I guess this would be a great place to scream "WARNING FROM CIA CREATED ELECTRONIC MIND CONTROL SLAVE, IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING.  

DO NOT THINK EVERYTHING IS NOT A TEST.....................
TESTING TESTING TESTING</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess this would be a great place to scream &#8220;WARNING FROM CIA CREATED ELECTRONIC MIND CONTROL SLAVE, IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING.  </p>
<p>DO NOT THINK EVERYTHING IS NOT A TEST&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
TESTING TESTING TESTING</p>
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