Comments on: U.S. Presidential Election Can Be Hacked https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/ The latest in policital news and the war in Iraq Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:40:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Steve in NC https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139556 Steve in NC Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:28:44 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139556 "It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." -Joseph Stalin I had a discussion over this issue several years ago with a lefty. Typical, belief in a big all powerful system over human nature. I am comfortable with a purple finger and paper ballots. At least a paper ballot that you have to mark with a pen. If it's close and goes to a hand count, you can see each vote made by a human. Too simple and idea for the pinheads I guess. “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”
-Joseph Stalin

I had a discussion over this issue several years ago with a lefty. Typical, belief in a big all powerful system over human nature. I am comfortable with a purple finger and paper ballots. At least a paper ballot that you have to mark with a pen. If it’s close and goes to a hand count, you can see each vote made by a human.

Too simple and idea for the pinheads I guess.

]]> By: Mike Mose https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139566 Mike Mose Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:42:36 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139566 If people do not decide elections, then armed citizens will! If people do not decide elections, then armed citizens will!

]]> By: JCD https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139583 JCD Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:58:28 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139583 If it can be hacked it will be, and it's fairly obvious to anyone who's paid attention to the activities of politically active hackers that they are overwhelmingly leftist and entitlement minded. If it can be hacked it will be, and it’s fairly obvious to anyone who’s paid attention to the activities of politically active hackers that they are overwhelmingly leftist and entitlement minded.

]]> By: Kurt(the infidel) https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139603 Kurt(the infidel) Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:25:31 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139603 There is no system on earth that cant be hacked. literally.. the Pentagon gets hacked on almost a daily basis. what the hell were we thinking by going to electronic ballots? do we think these machines protect themselves better than the Pentagons system? There is no system on earth that cant be hacked. literally.. the Pentagon gets hacked on almost a daily basis. what the hell were we thinking by going to electronic ballots? do we think these machines protect themselves better than the Pentagons system?

]]> By: brian https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139636 brian Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:01:50 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139636 Or perhaps they were intended to be hacked... is that idea so far-fetched? Or perhaps they were intended to be hacked…

is that idea so far-fetched?

]]> By: Mike Mose https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139641 Mike Mose Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:09:25 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139641 Brian is right on the money. Implemented to give total control to govt. instead of the people. Brian is right on the money. Implemented to give total control to govt. instead of the people.

]]> By: Comment on US Presidential Election Can Be Hacked by Kurt(the infidel) https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139643 Comment on US Presidential Election Can Be Hacked by Kurt(the infidel) Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:10:18 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139643 [...] ED wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptThere is no system on earth that cant be hacked. literally.. the Pentagon gets hacked on almost a daily basis. what the hell were we thinking by going to electronic ballots? do we think these machines protect themselves better than the … [...] […] ED wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptThere is no system on earth that cant be hacked. literally.. the Pentagon gets hacked on almost a daily basis. what the hell were we thinking by going to electronic ballots? do we think these machines protect themselves better than the … […]

]]> By: hegelbot https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139654 hegelbot Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:56:37 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139654 wait, what, why do voting machines have to be connected to the internet? or am i missing the understanding of hacking in this context? Either way good thing your telling everyone that they can be hacked...derrrrrr wait, what, why do voting machines have to be connected to the internet? or am i missing the understanding of hacking in this context? Either way good thing your telling everyone that they can be hacked…derrrrrr

]]> By: skh.pcola https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139940 skh.pcola Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:32:31 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/04/us-presidential-election-can-be-hacked/#comment-139940 Seriously? No shit, it's been 20 years since I've written any code, but a voting ballot could be done--along with the aggregate results for a polling place--in however many candidates there are plus 10 lines. Maybe 20 lines. Of Basic. There's nothing technologically difficult about "Pick one of the following three. Pick two of the following six. Choose Yes or No for the following 13 ballot initiatives," etfuckingcetera. The only ways that a legitimate voting machine could be hacked is to put it on an open (even "secure") network or not control access to the data. Diebold may be evil for making this shit more complicated than it needs to be, but any nefarious shit here is by design, not mistake. Seriously? No shit, it’s been 20 years since I’ve written any code, but a voting ballot could be done–along with the aggregate results for a polling place–in however many candidates there are plus 10 lines. Maybe 20 lines. Of Basic. There’s nothing technologically difficult about “Pick one of the following three. Pick two of the following six. Choose Yes or No for the following 13 ballot initiatives,” etfuckingcetera. The only ways that a legitimate voting machine could be hacked is to put it on an open (even “secure”) network or not control access to the data. Diebold may be evil for making this shit more complicated than it needs to be, but any nefarious shit here is by design, not mistake.

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