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2430 meters by a Canadian sniper, last I checked.
April 6th, 2008 at 3:37 pmYup, 2,430m with a TAC-50, took him three shots to beat Gunny Hathcock’s record: 2 shots @ 2,286m with a M2 mounted with the scope off his Model 70, or so I read.
Both fantastic shots, but i would have to give extra kudos to Gunny: 2 shots with a non-dedicated sniper weapon to make his shot.
April 6th, 2008 at 3:38 pmJonnie Canuck in Afghanistan.
April 6th, 2008 at 4:16 pmVietnam vs Afghanistan. Wasn’t the latter record acheived at a significantly higher altitude? If so, wouldn’t that tend to ’shorten’ a shot? Either way both are amazing shots.
April 6th, 2008 at 5:08 pmA few more details:
A world-record killing shot by a Canadian sniper (Rob Furlong) in Afghanistan could never have been made with the ammunition they were issued when they left Edmonton last winter, the triggerman said in a recent interview. The Canadian .50-calibre rounds have a maximum range of between 2,200 and 2,300 metres.
But the U.S. rounds, they discovered, “fly farther, faster,” said Cpl. “Bill”, a 26-year-old native of Fogo Island, Nfld.
The two-man Canadian team, coupled with American Sgt. Zevon Durham of Greenville, S.C., made the kill from 2,430 metres, or nearly 2 1/2 kilometres, on the second shot.
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Gunny Carlos Hathcock is a legend, and deservedly so, but I have to give credit to my US Army brethren:
SSgt Adelbert F. Waldron, or Adelbert F. Waldron III, (March 14, 1933 - October 18, 1995) was a United States Army sniper serving during the Vietnam War (9th Infantry Div.) who is little known, but who currently holds the highest number of confirmed kills for any American sniper in history; 109.
The legendary Carlos Hathcock had 93 confirmed kills, Chuck Mawhinney had 103 - both were members of the US Marine Corps. However, despite both of them being fairly well known, Waldron is all but unheard of. Waldron also was one of the few two time recipients of the Distinguished Service Cross, both awarded for separate actions in 1969.
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April 6th, 2008 at 7:01 pmRightangle,
April 6th, 2008 at 7:11 pmkindo’ splittin’ hairs here but higher alt and lower humidity would def work in the Canuck’s favor in streaching the shot out.
But at these ranges every little bit is a factor and helps.
You’re absolutely right. The environmental factors can add up to a significant difference. But that doesn’t change the fact that it was a great shot, preceded by another great shot that just missed. Very consistent for 2,430 meters.
April 6th, 2008 at 7:19 pmdem’s canadians can shoot
April 6th, 2008 at 8:51 pmThanks all for the input. I heard those Canadian teams were lethal, but some things are better kept secret.
After I posed that first question I remembered some valuable info from Hornfischers novel ‘Last stand of the Tin Can Sailors.’ It seems the navy in WWII already had computer assisted firing systems that even took into account the Coriolis effect. At twenty miles you’d have to do that.
April 6th, 2008 at 9:23 pmThe further beyond 800M that you shoot, the more that dumb luck plays into it.
April 7th, 2008 at 2:15 amFor what it’s worth, arguing merits at these ranges, seems to me, to be splitting hairs. I spent 20+ years in the Canadian Forces and have the utmost respect for anyone who can “reach out and touch someone” at ranges beyond those of us mortals.
Back in the early 80’s (while I was posted to the Royal Canadian Regiment, 2nd Bn) our sniper pl was commanded by an ex US military/Vietnam vet. He earned a lot of respect, not because he was a better shot on the range, but because he had been there, seen it, done it and had his t-shirt.
Again, for what it is worth, this isn’t a competition between the USA and Canada. Those of us who have served (and are serving) are proud to stand side by side with the American Armed Services.
April 18th, 2008 at 7:09 pm