Britain Police: ‘We Must Start Negotiating With Al Qaeda’
Is this guy Sir Hugh Orde fucking retarded? Seriously!
Daily Mail
One of Britain’s most senior policemen says the country should talk to Al Qaeda to try and end their bloody campaign of violence.
Sir Hugh Orde, a front-runner to replace Ian Blair as the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, said he could not think of a single terrorist campaign that ended without negotiation.
And after 30 years of tackling the IRA Sir Hugh, head of the Police Service of Northern Ireland, said he was convinced that policing - detecting plots and arresting people - was not enough alone to defeat terrorists.
His comments come the day after Al Qaeda released a shocking image of their vision of America - devastated by nuclear attack.
The terrifying computer generated picture showing the ruins of Washington DC was released on an Islamic extremists’ website.
Sir Hugh admitted that negotiating with terrorists meant ‘thinking the unthinkable’ and said some of the biggest risks his officers took were talking to people that ‘historically they would not have dreamed of talking to’.
In an interview with the Guardian newspaper his 2004 meeting with Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams was an example of how one-time enemies can become partners in peace.
Asked if he was saying ‘we should talk to al Qaeda’, Sir Hugh said: ‘Well that’s the logic of…I don’t think that’s unthinkable, the question will be one of timing.’
He added: ‘If you want my professional assessment of any terrorism campaign, what fixes it is talking and engaging and judging when the conditions are right for that to take place.
‘Is that a naive statement? I don’t think it is … It is the reality of what we face.
‘If somebody can show me any terrorism campaign where it has been policed out, I’d be happy to read about it, because I can’t think of one.’
On Tuesday terrorists attempted to fire-bomb a JJB sports shop in Belfast but failed after the device failed to properly detonate.
Sir Hugh said Irish terrorists still wanted to bomb the UK mainland, but lacked the capability. They were still attempting to buy weapons but were disorganised, ‘psychopathic’ and probably numbering no more than 200 people.
He also called for the number of police forces to be slashed from 43 to nine to aid the fight against terrorism and warned the threat from dissident republicans in Ulster was at its greatest in five years.
And he said the idea of parachuting people from the private sector into senior policing roles was ‘barking mad’ and said police chiefs who took the media ‘personally’ would be finished.
Dhimmi Bitch
May 30th, 2008 at 6:20 am‘If somebody can show me any terrorism campaign where it has been policed out, I’d be happy to read about it, because I can’t think of one.’
Absolutely correct sir… Police ain’t gonna do it…Now, how many were stomped out by merciless politically incorrect brute force?
May 30th, 2008 at 6:23 am
May 30th, 2008 at 6:23 amAnd a
to whomever does it.
Ok…Cut the number of police forces from 43 to 9 to “aid” (???!!!) the fight against terrorism? Wow!
Al-queda cannot be negotiated with; only eliminated!
May 30th, 2008 at 6:28 amthis is what happens with moral relativists, he compares the IRA, a group that never exported terrorrism, with alqaeda who is at war with the non muslim world because their prophet told them to do so. some people will not compromise at all, an islam is just such a religion that will only have it so that non believers are either converted, subdued, or talking with al qaeda would be another neville chamberlain moment, where we give the psychopaths say israel, afghanistan and Iraq as they continue to attempt to take other places like the phillipines, theiland somalia sudan etc.
I suggest however, to play along with this fucker have him organize the meeting, have the CIA follow and cap each and every jihadi he can. This would be right out of the jihadi playbook by luring the enemy with deviousness. the only way to defeat this enemy is to annihilate them before they do you!
May 30th, 2008 at 6:31 amThis doofus is a freakin’ Knight (as indicated by his title) and he’s ready to negotiate with scum-sucking terrorists? The queen should revoke his knighthood and he should lose his job.
May 30th, 2008 at 6:31 am¨Paging Mr. Churchill…..Mr. Winston Churchill…..
May 30th, 2008 at 6:43 amWow! What an idea! Maybe they can also negotiated with criminals to see if they will stop breaking the law.
May 30th, 2008 at 6:43 amMust be too much PCB in this dude’s fish ‘n’ chips…
May 30th, 2008 at 6:48 amHow do you negotiate with people who base their f’d up beliefs on religious fanaticism? If terrorists are blowing crap up based on political issues, OK I can see eventually having a talk. However, with religious butt licking losers you cannot talk to them unless they’re willing to become less religious and less fanatical, neither of which is going to happen when talking with an infidel they are instructed to kill by the ProfShit Mohammad… It is very clear that Britain is infected with Islam and the USA had better start protecting itself from the subtle invasion.
May 30th, 2008 at 7:01 amThis guy is a dhimmi bitch. yeah negotiate with jihadists. negotiate what exactly? the takeover of your freakin country?
these people want world domination and sharia law. there will be no appeasing them into co-existing with you dumbass. they want your head
May 30th, 2008 at 7:11 amHey Britain … how’s those negotiations going with Iran on their nuclear program? You have had a few years now to lead the way and negotiate the benefits of non-proliferation.
Just as diplomacy has already failed with Iran, so would it with AQ. You just can’t talk an alligator out of behaving like an alligator and if you try to appease it, the only thing you buy is the possiblity that the alligator will eat you last.
Of course, if you hunt and kill the alligator …
May 30th, 2008 at 7:20 amWe don’t negotiate with shit.
May 30th, 2008 at 7:35 amhow do you negotiate with sharia law?
May 30th, 2008 at 7:38 amThis stupid fucker does not get it. England, of all countries, should know about dealing with muslim radicals. Does Charles
Gordon, and Khartoum ring a bell. Only these raicals don’t talk. Al Queda is made up of religious zealots, looking fo a cause to die for, so they can go to allah and their virgins.
You can’t talk to crazy religious zealots bent on self destruction for an arabian moon god. This is a clash between the 4th cetury and the 21st century. Anyone who promotes
May 30th, 2008 at 7:48 amsuicide bombers which kill women and children to bring terror
and attention to themselves are just plain fucking crazy.
He could be just realizing that they have allowed to many muslims into their country because of their liberal bullshit
May 30th, 2008 at 7:52 amlaws. They can’t control their own country. So now the way is to appease them. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Churchhill must be twirling right now. They defeat the strongest war machins on the face of the earth so they can cowtow to a bunch of raghead
goat fuckers. Hail Brittania!
COWARD!
May 30th, 2008 at 8:09 amUnited Kaliphate is alive, well and growing.
May 30th, 2008 at 8:10 am“I say Mr Bin Laden old chap, let’s say bygones be bygones, you stop ginning your lads up into a tizzie that we will have to arrest them for and then you will always be welcome around Scotland Yard for tea, what do you think of that?”
Ah that will solve it all! Someone have this clown for this “cunning plan”!
May 30th, 2008 at 10:19 amHey stupid. Show me in history where Sharia has existed side by side with western laws. What can’t find any can you.
You’re a Dhimi already without even putting up a fight. And you call yourself a cop? In my culture you ain’t shit.
May 30th, 2008 at 12:00 pmIt looks like the sun is going to set on the British Empire after all.
May 30th, 2008 at 2:42 pmSir Hugh Orde (who remains married) was in February 2007 revealed as the father of an illegitimate 16-month-old boy whose mother is an undercover detective in the Metropolitan Police with whom he had a long running affair.
Sharia law require that married or divorce persons found guilty of Zina (adultery) be executed by stoning. In Afghanistan, under the Taliban, adulterous couples were often killed together.
Oh yeah, by all means set up a meeting with these religious fanatics Sir Hugh. However, I’m thinking you might have a little trouble convincing the ‘other’ woman to come along.
May 30th, 2008 at 2:48 pmThinking the unthinkable? Okaaaaaayyyyyyy…
How’s about we declare the Wazir/Afghanistan region an “outlaw/pirate zone,” and either drop 150–200 nukes on the larger population centers or spread some nasty old-fashioned disease to kill off these savages to the last women or child? It would be a relatively small 10-20 million killed quite quickly, the epicenter of the plague wd be neutralized, and I have a feeling that the rest of the region wd get a clue very quickly.
Oh, and while we’re at it we grab the Saudi oilfields, and drop a nuke CLOSE to Mecca.
I mean, if we’re gonna think the unthinkable, why wd we choose to entrench these savages? Why not destroy their center of gravity and too bad for the civilians, like the Brits did to Dresden and we did to the Japs?
Seriously, chowderheads like this will go down in the history books as the new appeasers.
May 30th, 2008 at 4:57 pmOrde is a fu*king retard.
May 30th, 2008 at 6:57 pmSTFU asshole.