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	<title>Comments on: Goodbye Mosque . . . In Its Place? Oriana Fallaci Square</title>
	<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/</link>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165020</link>
		<author>chris</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 07:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wish I could vote for a mayor like this....</description>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165043</link>
		<author>RC</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 08:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Great to see!! Let's all be very clear there ain't no such thing as "la dolce vita" in a Sharia world..

:beer: Cin cin Verona, and Viva Fallaci!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see!! Let&#8217;s all be very clear there ain&#8217;t no such thing as &#8220;la dolce vita&#8221; in a Sharia world..</p>
<p> <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif' alt=':beer:' class='wp-smiley' /> Cin cin Verona, and Viva Fallaci!!</p>
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		<title>By: franchie</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165121</link>
		<author>franchie</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 11:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165121</guid>
					<description>it's not "dolce vita" there, it's a remanent fashist spirit, that has never really left this part of "ITaly über alles"

though, the mayor has cojones, but I am afraid, that will not solve the problems, that'll make the conterpart reactions even more revendicative

one should rather orientate the islam movement there, make it becoming an italian islam like Sarko is doing with french islman : teach the muslims italian laws, respect of the italian citizenship, because these people won't go back to their country, wether one's will have to "eliminate" them or assimilate them  ; I bet the first solution isn't "envisageable"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s not &#8220;dolce vita&#8221; there, it&#8217;s a remanent fashist spirit, that has never really left this part of &#8220;ITaly über alles&#8221;</p>
<p>though, the mayor has cojones, but I am afraid, that will not solve the problems, that&#8217;ll make the conterpart reactions even more revendicative</p>
<p>one should rather orientate the islam movement there, make it becoming an italian islam like Sarko is doing with french islman : teach the muslims italian laws, respect of the italian citizenship, because these people won&#8217;t go back to their country, wether one&#8217;s will have to &#8220;eliminate&#8221; them or assimilate them  ; I bet the first solution isn&#8217;t &#8220;envisageable&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 83delta</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165151</link>
		<author>83delta</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 11:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165151</guid>
					<description>A legacy to die for--destroying a stinkin muzzleeem mosque.
 It don't get any better than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A legacy to die for&#8211;destroying a stinkin muzzleeem mosque.<br />
 It don&#8217;t get any better than that.</p>
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		<title>By: TedB</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165171</link>
		<author>TedB</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 12:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165171</guid>
					<description>The time for talking to and educating the muzzies is long over.  They don't accept talk, just a punch in the fucking face, and that says all that needs to be said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The time for talking to and educating the muzzies is long over.  They don&#8217;t accept talk, just a punch in the fucking face, and that says all that needs to be said.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165191</link>
		<author>chris</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 12:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165191</guid>
					<description>@ franchie
Its very naive to try to make the islam more Western. They simply refuse our set of rules. This effort has ben made for years now without any results....

Look at the UK, in parts of London the sharia law is a more important institute of law than the native one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ franchie<br />
Its very naive to try to make the islam more Western. They simply refuse our set of rules. This effort has ben made for years now without any results&#8230;.</p>
<p>Look at the UK, in parts of London the sharia law is a more important institute of law than the native one.</p>
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		<title>By: franchie</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165203</link>
		<author>franchie</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 12:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165203</guid>
					<description>Chris, 

may-be cause you apply to them the comunautarism rules, and "freedom of speech", that we deny here, they are forced by law to integrate, or to leave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, </p>
<p>may-be cause you apply to them the comunautarism rules, and &#8220;freedom of speech&#8221;, that we deny here, they are forced by law to integrate, or to leave</p>
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		<title>By: Brian H</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165263</link>
		<author>Brian H</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165263</guid>
					<description>As for assimilation: here's another GoV link you need to read:
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/05/sliding-into-irrelevance.html

"...the conclusion that Islam constituted an existential threat to the survival of European civilization, and that Islam’s influence on Europe therefore needed to be eliminated. It further concluded that, logically speaking, the various ways of achieving this goal could be broadly subdivided into three categories:

1)	 	inducing Muslims to leave of their own free will,
2)	 	mass deportations, and
3)	 	genocide."

#1 &#38; #2 are no longer feasible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for assimilation: here&#8217;s another GoV link you need to read:<br />
<a href="http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/05/sliding-into-irrelevance.html" rel="nofollow">http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/05/sliding-into-irrelevance.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the conclusion that Islam constituted an existential threat to the survival of European civilization, and that Islam’s influence on Europe therefore needed to be eliminated. It further concluded that, logically speaking, the various ways of achieving this goal could be broadly subdivided into three categories:</p>
<p>1)	 	inducing Muslims to leave of their own free will,<br />
2)	 	mass deportations, and<br />
3)	 	genocide.&#8221;</p>
<p>#1 &amp; #2 are no longer feasible.</p>
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		<title>By: franchie</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165298</link>
		<author>franchie</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165298</guid>
					<description>Bof, that gate hasn't got any clue, just a screaming buddy !

Austria as per Switzerland are the both countries in EU that hire the most higher rate  of foreigners, there used to be,  after WWII, Italians, Spanishs, Portugeses, then Greeks, Yougoslavians, (in there, of Albanes muslimhood), then, north Africans...  so the blah blah man has just to help himself and do the dirty works when it's winter time for skiing !

what a prut man !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bof, that gate hasn&#8217;t got any clue, just a screaming buddy !</p>
<p>Austria as per Switzerland are the both countries in EU that hire the most higher rate  of foreigners, there used to be,  after WWII, Italians, Spanishs, Portugeses, then Greeks, Yougoslavians, (in there, of Albanes muslimhood), then, north Africans&#8230;  so the blah blah man has just to help himself and do the dirty works when it&#8217;s winter time for skiing !</p>
<p>what a prut man !</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165309</link>
		<author>RC</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165309</guid>
					<description>Franchie, pardon me but I find some of your statements puzzling. I get the gist of what you're saying, but like Chris expressed assimilation and Islam is a hard nut to crack. Typically assimilation in our countries can only be achieved on their terms or we face anarchy on our streets. It has a lot to do with Islam/Sharia itself which includes a pathological resentment for the western way of life. Your point about resentment of law enforcement is contradictory in my mind as what I've read and seen in Europe myself, Eurocrats actually spend more time and vast amounts of your tax payer money trying to integrate these ungrateful people - than say enforce the law. The posted article actually shows the opposite to the status quo happening there in EU, which is why it's refreshing to see, besides Orianna Fallaci was a pioneer and crusader in the fight to wake up the whole world to the mess that accompanies Islamic settlement where ever that may be.

Is there a growing ultra right wing movement in Italy today? Yes there is. Could there be a reason for it's recent growth there.. yes. The question you have to ask yourself is why is there? I could suggest it's because, socialist eurotards haven't been enforcing laws enough or at all, and that Muslim immigrant ghettos, mosques, and madrasses progress socialist agendas of remaining in (or being voted back into)  power - it's one western democratic right that they (Muslims) do not shy away from as it means handouts continue. They are also taught that the infidel must pay their dues, and in our western economies their jizya tax comes in the form of social benefits. I don't want us all to be the same, I'd prefer diversity through distinction and cultural richness; not through relativism. Multiculturalism is a misnomer and a one world utopian view and international laws aren't the answer when Islamists take over our neighborhoods. As in Verona, a show of strength and self worth is required to (re)claim what was always ours to begin with. Leftist activist hippies who march and parade alongside muslims there in Europe or here at university campuses, advance the cause for whom?? All of us?? We all lose little by little through their ignorance and at the expense of our own rights, socialists aim to sell us all out without a single shot being fired if possible - it may also explain why Libs here have a penchant for surrender and are recklessly willing to negotiate unconditionally with Islamist madmen!

Bravo to Mr Montagnoli  :beer:  :beer:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franchie, pardon me but I find some of your statements puzzling. I get the gist of what you&#8217;re saying, but like Chris expressed assimilation and Islam is a hard nut to crack. Typically assimilation in our countries can only be achieved on their terms or we face anarchy on our streets. It has a lot to do with Islam/Sharia itself which includes a pathological resentment for the western way of life. Your point about resentment of law enforcement is contradictory in my mind as what I&#8217;ve read and seen in Europe myself, Eurocrats actually spend more time and vast amounts of your tax payer money trying to integrate these ungrateful people - than say enforce the law. The posted article actually shows the opposite to the status quo happening there in EU, which is why it&#8217;s refreshing to see, besides Orianna Fallaci was a pioneer and crusader in the fight to wake up the whole world to the mess that accompanies Islamic settlement where ever that may be.</p>
<p>Is there a growing ultra right wing movement in Italy today? Yes there is. Could there be a reason for it&#8217;s recent growth there.. yes. The question you have to ask yourself is why is there? I could suggest it&#8217;s because, socialist eurotards haven&#8217;t been enforcing laws enough or at all, and that Muslim immigrant ghettos, mosques, and madrasses progress socialist agendas of remaining in (or being voted back into)  power - it&#8217;s one western democratic right that they (Muslims) do not shy away from as it means handouts continue. They are also taught that the infidel must pay their dues, and in our western economies their jizya tax comes in the form of social benefits. I don&#8217;t want us all to be the same, I&#8217;d prefer diversity through distinction and cultural richness; not through relativism. Multiculturalism is a misnomer and a one world utopian view and international laws aren&#8217;t the answer when Islamists take over our neighborhoods. As in Verona, a show of strength and self worth is required to (re)claim what was always ours to begin with. Leftist activist hippies who march and parade alongside muslims there in Europe or here at university campuses, advance the cause for whom?? All of us?? We all lose little by little through their ignorance and at the expense of our own rights, socialists aim to sell us all out without a single shot being fired if possible - it may also explain why Libs here have a penchant for surrender and are recklessly willing to negotiate unconditionally with Islamist madmen!</p>
<p>Bravo to Mr Montagnoli  <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif' alt=':beer:' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif' alt=':beer:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: franchie</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165318</link>
		<author>franchie</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165318</guid>
					<description>yes that what the 1968retarded response, but not anymore in our country, even the lefties strenghtened their position without advocating it officially, the deportation of radical muslims and of illegal immigrants started when they were in power

though, you have to consider that the radicalism isn't the majority, but being aware of the danger that they will convert moderate muslims has to be in our every day survey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes that what the 1968retarded response, but not anymore in our country, even the lefties strenghtened their position without advocating it officially, the deportation of radical muslims and of illegal immigrants started when they were in power</p>
<p>though, you have to consider that the radicalism isn&#8217;t the majority, but being aware of the danger that they will convert moderate muslims has to be in our every day survey</p>
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		<title>By: sully</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165358</link>
		<author>sully</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165358</guid>
					<description>"...they will convert moderate muslims..."

 :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;they will convert moderate muslims&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p> <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: franchie</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165363</link>
		<author>franchie</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165363</guid>
					<description>happy Sully, that my poor english to express that they aim to convert the moderated, but not that they'll manage it

read the right papers, forget Belloc, shit he was also french !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>happy Sully, that my poor english to express that they aim to convert the moderated, but not that they&#8217;ll manage it</p>
<p>read the right papers, forget Belloc, shit he was also french !</p>
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		<title>By: sully</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165392</link>
		<author>sully</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165392</guid>
					<description>read a book sometime franchie.
the whole book.
and not just something you already think you believe.
 :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>read a book sometime franchie.<br />
the whole book.<br />
and not just something you already think you believe.<br />
 <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: franchie</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165406</link>
		<author>franchie</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165406</guid>
					<description>you mean Belloc's ?

I have read it,your friend Dan provided the link.

It's quite scaring, though it's scarcely the approach that the intellectualhood had here before 1968 (ever read "l'étranger"), we just had to subjugate them, that's what our army used to make and was criticed for by your gentle governments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you mean Belloc&#8217;s ?</p>
<p>I have read it,your friend Dan provided the link.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite scaring, though it&#8217;s scarcely the approach that the intellectualhood had here before 1968 (ever read &#8220;l&#8217;étranger&#8221;), we just had to subjugate them, that&#8217;s what our army used to make and was criticed for by your gentle governments</p>
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		<title>By: MikeD</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165747</link>
		<author>MikeD</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 21:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-165747</guid>
					<description>What a fitting tribute to a great woman.
You are sorely missed, La Fallaci! :beer:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fitting tribute to a great woman.<br />
You are sorely missed, La Fallaci! <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif' alt=':beer:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Boo Boo</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-166166</link>
		<author>Boo Boo</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 04:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-166166</guid>
					<description>Ha ha ha. In Italy, of all places. Oriana was a proud warrior for liberty and freedom, and democracy.  She wrote warning of Islamofacism. Good for Verona and its Mayor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha ha. In Italy, of all places. Oriana was a proud warrior for liberty and freedom, and democracy.  She wrote warning of Islamofacism. Good for Verona and its Mayor.</p>
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		<title>By: Exposing Islam</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-172773</link>
		<author>Exposing Islam</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 02:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/goodbye-mosque-in-its-place-oriana-fallaci-square/#comment-172773</guid>
					<description>Muslims do not belong in non Islamic countries. The two ways of life will never mix. It will be our way or theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muslims do not belong in non Islamic countries. The two ways of life will never mix. It will be our way or theirs.</p>
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