Comments on: Never Bring Fists To A Gun Fight - Fatal Shot? You Tell Me…

By: Snarfybobo

Snarfybobo — Fri, 30 May 2008 22:44:41 +0000

Blood sprays onto the top right corner of the camera as well, and yes he probably died. That’s an artery shot

By: 007

007 — Fri, 30 May 2008 22:47:48 +0000

(SCUM OF THE EARTH)

Who the Frack shoots an unarmed man?

By: mike3481

mike3481 — Fri, 30 May 2008 23:13:49 +0000

I think it’s called the sub clavicle artery, it’s a big one, if severed you lose consciousness almost immediately and then the the victim will bleed out and die in less than a minute.

I don’t know for sure.

Any Corpsman, Medics or Docs out there know?

By: IP727

IP727 — Fri, 30 May 2008 23:52:09 +0000

they seem to have good photos of the perp, should be able to find the bastard.

By: Medic Mike

Medic Mike — Sat, 31 May 2008 00:55:09 +0000

The subclavian lies right under the clavical.

By: Political.fish

Political.fish — Sat, 31 May 2008 01:04:03 +0000

I agree with Medic Mike. It appears the bullit enters the left mid to upper pectoral area, superior to the heart and clear of the aorta, through the subclavian artery. The exit wound is through, or just above the left scapula. Its terminal. Tag and bag ‘im.

By: RJ

RJ — Sat, 31 May 2008 02:51:58 +0000

It looks fake to me.

By: Donnie B

Donnie B — Sat, 31 May 2008 03:41:20 +0000

Why is the date 29/06/08?

By: RJ

RJ — Sat, 31 May 2008 04:19:20 +0000

I could be way off but…

1. I don’t see a gun in his hand at any point before or after the shot. It looks like he has two fingers side by side.
2. The flash seems way too bright.
3. Again, I could be way off but the blood spatter on the camera seems excessive.

By: T-Bagg

T-Bagg — Sat, 31 May 2008 04:44:20 +0000

Looks fake to me.

By: Lftbhndagn

Lftbhndagn — Sat, 31 May 2008 05:11:49 +0000

If you stop the video @ 32:05 you can see the
handgun. @ 33:16 you can see it when he brings his hand/arm down to his side
Looks real to me. Yes - fatal. Date could have
just been off on the cam.

By: Mark Tanberg

Mark Tanberg — Sat, 31 May 2008 09:13:59 +0000

I say it’s real and the date was set wrong.

By: Poe

Poe — Sat, 31 May 2008 16:02:04 +0000

Response time will determine how fatal it was.

Wasn’t dead in the chest but up in his shoulder, you can tell from the second blood stain appear on the jacket once he his on the ground.

If it did hit the subcalvian artery he has a chance to bleed out from it, but he fell face down, meaning the bulk of the tissue damage and exit wound is higher than the injury so it has to pump up and out before he bleeds out. Takes quite awhile to bleed out through the enterance wound.

For as far as the amount of blood the stuff goes freaking everywhere, spraying and pumping if you get anything more than a graze (and even then). In black and white even a very thin film of the stuff of it will stand up like a pond so I wouldnt use that as to much of a influance in making your live or die guess.

If the responders get there before he goes into shock I will go with live. I will give him better odds as he is KO’d apparently and not flipping out and forcing shock on himself while pumping out even more go juice.

Just a grunt, but its amazing the things you pick up on.

By: Bob USMC

Bob USMC — Sat, 31 May 2008 19:50:34 +0000

Fucking thieving assholes. How low.

By: Political.fish

Political.fish — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:40:59 +0000

This guy is dead. The left subclavean is a large artery branching directly off the aortic arch. The average blood volume of a man is approx. 4 liters. The average cardiac output is 4-5 liters per minute. That means that this guy’s total blood volume can exit his body in just about one minute. I’ve seen it happen. Its called ‘exanguination’, and even in controlled environments like surgery its terminal.