The Decline Of Leftism In Europe
I am continually perplexed by people who are moderate to strict conservative voters who, because they aren’t in total agreement with John McCain, say they will not vote for him, or even vote for someone else.
Granted, Mac’s not solid on everything we believe. The borders of this country are paramount in our disagreement with him. And, as we see it and hopefully he will also, the borders are one of the key points in securing our nation in this late 20th/early 21st century war against those who practice terror in order to spread their ideology of hate and death in the name of “religion” …
But I cannot see simply “writing-off” an election just because the candidate you would have preferred isn’t on your side of the ticket. Remember, that happened in 2006 … and look what we got … LOOK who we have to watch screw-over our troops and our country.
Pinky and the Brain as the democrat leaders in the House and Senate.
Do we really want to take the chance of one of these socialist Comrades working with them and leading the way to a U.S.S.A.??
Can we REALLY just write-off this election? I mean, I’m thinking there is much more at stake than more taxes and government hand-outs … I’m thinking I just REFUSE to hand over our most valuable treasure into either of their hands …
By Bruce Walker
In less than a week the major political parties of the Right in Britain and Italy scored unprecedented electoral victories by winning mayoral races in Rome and then in London. Since the end of the Second World War, the Right had never controlled those two offices.
To grasp what this means, consider that “Londonistan” is the title of an excellent book by Melanie Phillips which warns of the descent of that great city into a radical Moslem polity. The citizens of Londonistan have chosen an iconoclastic Conservative Party leader, Boris Johnson, who has campaigned on the need to reduce crime in London and who has condemned the academic boycott of Israel by British universities as “disgusting and one sided.” Although Johnson is more an offbeat moderate than a strong conservative, in Londonistan the change is dramatic and sweeping compared to what it had been before.
His defeated opponent, “Red Ken” Livingston, was a blatant fan of every Marxist thug and radical Moslem in the world. Livingston’s comments about the Holocaust, about Israel and about the suspect loyalties of young Jews in Britain are despicable. Goodbye to a mayor who said: “For far too long the accusation of anti-Semitism has been used against anyone who is critical of the policies of the Israeli government, as I have been.”
Five years ago, Livingston was calling President Bush “the most corrupt American president since Warren Harding in the Twenties” and “not the legitimate president.” He embraced Hugo Chavez, the Marxist thug who is trying to be a new Castro. Goodbye to that sort of extreme and robotic Leftism.
The last mayor of Rome, Walter Veltroni, had been the leader of the Left in the recent general election in Italy against Berlusconi. Veltroni was once a communist and remains a professed atheist who was proud to be called one of the earliest supporters of Barack Obama and who wrote the preface to the European edition of Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope. George Clooney was a big fan of Veltroni, saying that “Like Obama, I think Veltroni has a rare quality, a great oratory ability which can bring people together.” Unsurpisingly, Veltroni has also taken potshots at President Bush.
Veltroni was not particularly hostile to Israel — Italians and Americans have historically been very sympathetic to Israel — but his support is not nearly as strong as Berlusconi, who was a rock solid supporter of President Bush in his war on Islamic extremism . Berlusconi also placed Fiamma Nirenstein, a Jewish author and anti-terrorism expert, a strong supporter of the war in Iraq and a solid friend of America and Israel, high enough on his ballot so that she will be in the next Italian Parliament as a member of the majority coalition. Communists in Italy pointedly tried to keep Nirenstein from winning, running blatantly anti-Semitic cartoons of her as “Fiamma Frankenstein” with a Star of David on one lapel and the Fascist emblem on the other.
Hatred of America and Israel lost.
The Berlusconi victory in Italy, a few weeks before the two big mayoral victories, means that one of the most pro-American major European leaders in modern history will be running Italy with a clear majority, and that one of the major nations of Europe will have a government as supportive of our efforts to win the war of global terrorism than we could reasonably hope to have.
Sandwiched between the Berlusconi landslide and the two big mayoral victories, the rest of Britain also held council elections. The governing Labour Party, whose leader Gordon Brown recently called for a revival of American greatness (just before his visit with President Bush), suffered massive losses in these local elections — the worst defeat for Labour in forty years — and with polls showing a Conservative Party lead of between ten points and eighteen points in the next general election, Brown suffered a double defeat which may make it impossible for this old school Leftist to stay in power before the next mandatory general election in early 2010.
By all accounts, an early election would lead to a Conservative landslide, and the next American president will be dealing with governments in the four major European democracies much more in line with a strong stand against terrorism and with America than could have been imagined four years ago when John Kerry talked about all the foreign leaders who wanted him, instead of President Bush, in office.
Although Sarkozy is facing a hostile French electorate, he was elected last year to a five year term and the President of France is an incredibly powerful office. Sarkozy can remain an unabashed friend of America and of Israel without worry over the medium term. The government of France has moved decisively in our direction.
Merkel in Germany remains very popular and so does her CDU/CSU conservative party. The coalition with the Leftist SPD is less popular, leaving the possibility that another unprecedented early election could give Chancellor Merkel an opportunity for an outright Right of Center government in Germany (and, almost certainly, at least a stronger hand in any coalition government.)
These European leaders or, in the case of David Cameron, the Conservative Party leader in Britain, soon to be European leaders, are also very much in synch with Senator McCain regarding the war on terrorism (Cameron is a big McCain fan.) What could this mean for the world? It could well mean that for the next four years the leaders of Europe and America could be united in a way seldom seen in modern history to protect Western Civilization from the threats it faces. Certainly the weeks from mid-April to early May have been better for the Right in Europe than almost anytime ever. Rumors of the death of Europe may, to paraphrase Twain, may turn out to be greatly exaggerated.
(AmericanThinker)
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I understand your point about McCain, dril. Imo he can win it in November as it stand right now. My biggest concern is that, once again, I’m supposed to bite the bullet and compromise my values to get the “lesser of two(or in this case, 3) evils”
I don’t know about anyone else, but whenever I compromise my beliefs and values, it rarely turns out well. McCain has a track record of being on the wrong side of important issues and has no problem beating up people on his own side in order to have some MSM pundit refer to him as a “Maverick”.
Kind of like in high school when that cool kid was nice to you when no one was around, but when the other cool kids showed up, he had to be a dick to you so as not to lose face.
As it is now, I have no intentions of voting for McCain, but I doubt us “maverick” conservatives will matter that much in the general. McCain is banking on Independents and moderate Democrats to get elected.
May 5th, 2008 at 8:27 pmI’m perplexed that the two-party system couldn’t do any better than the three that are now left. They all suck.
I’m writing myself in– either that or Nehemiah Wright.
May 5th, 2008 at 8:33 pmI understand your point about McCain, dril. Imo he can win it in November as it stand right now. My biggest concern is that, once again, I’m supposed to bite the bullet and compromise my values to get the “lesser of two(or in this case, 3) evils”
I don’t know about anyone else, but whenever I compromise my beliefs and values, it rarely turns out well. McCain has a track record of being on the wrong side of important issues and has no problem beating up people on his own side in order to have some MSM pundit refer to him as a “Maverick”.
Kind of like in high school when that cool kid was nice to you when no one was around, but when the other cool kids showed up, he had to be a dick to you so as not to lose face.
As it is now, I have no intentions of voting for McCain,
Anyway, I doubt us “maverick” conservatives will matter that much in the general. McCain is banking on Independents and moderate Democrats to get elected.
-Sorry if I post this twice, it didn’t go through right the first time-
May 5th, 2008 at 8:41 pmI’m just voting for his running mate
May 5th, 2008 at 8:45 pmIt’s tough. Every time I say “F*ck it, McCain!” he crams his thumb in my eye. The latest thing is kissing La Raza’s a$$” (see Michelle Malkin’s site). Jeez Johnny, get the hell off it! ILLEGALS CAN’T VOTE, quit sucking their ****!!!!!!!
May 5th, 2008 at 9:27 pm“Granted, Mac’s not solid on everything we believe. The borders of this country are paramount in our disagreement with him. ”
For me at least, this is a pivotal issue. I live with the results of a failed border policy every day and it pisses me off. As far as this particular issue goes, I can’t see any difference between McCain and the two Dhimwits. If this were the only issue, I would no more vote for McCain than Obama. We have 20 million illegals running apeshit wild in our country. Our prisons are filled with them. They bring drugs into our country. There can be little doubt the goat fuggers have slipped in with them and are now, located in our cities, planning to blow shit up. We could have stopped them. We still can but we aren’t going to because none of the candidates want to. The very thought of our government sitting by, allowing this to occur makes me spit fire.
However, the border is just one of many issues, issues where McCain stands out as our only hope. I’m not happy about the choices we have this election but after many nights banging my head against the wall, I am leaning toward a vote for McCain because something is better than nothing at all. The way I’m seeing it, if we vote in a Dhim, we’ll be fighting the entire war on terror on our own soil. With McCain, at least (hopefully) the majority of the war will be fought on the goat fuggers turf.
May 5th, 2008 at 9:35 pmDon’t misunderstand, I agree we definitely do not have the best choices, however America has voted, and we have to live with what we get. That’s how our system works. That’s what makes America great. Agree or disagree, a “no vote” is a vote for the other side. Your vote does count! Look at the last two presidential elections, and how close they were.
All of this “I’m not voting because McCain doesn’t have my beliefs and values” is ridiculous. You used the cool kid analogy, I’m going to use the spoiled kid who throws himself on the floor kicking and screaming because he doesn’t get exactly what he wants. Well people it’s time to grow-up. We have enough of the “mine” generation. It’s time to start thinking about what’s best for America. What’s best for ALL Americans. The choices are what they are, and if you choose to stay home and whine on election day, then please remember you helped choose the left because you didn’t get your way.
May 5th, 2008 at 9:36 pmAlthough I read this site everyday, I haven’t posted here in awhile, and my comment isn’t showing being moderated as it used to. Soooo if I double post I apologize….
Don’t misunderstand, I agree we definitely do not have the best choices, however America has voted, and we have to live with what we get. That’s how our system works. That’s what makes America great. Agree or disagree, a “no vote” is a vote for the other side. Your vote does count! Look at the last two presidential elections, and how close they were.
All of this “I’m not voting because McCain doesn’t have my beliefs and values” is ridiculous. You used the cool kid analogy, I’m going to use the spoiled kid who throws himself on the floor kicking and screaming because he doesn’t get exactly what he wants. Well people it’s time to grow-up. We have enough of the “mine” generation. It’s time to start thinking about what’s best for America. What’s best for ALL Americans. The choices are what they are, and if you choose to stay home and whine on election day, then please remember you helped choose the left because you didn’t get your way.
May 5th, 2008 at 9:40 pmFor the past 8 years, I’ve lived with a former fighter pilot as my President. Not always happy with his decisions, was I, but, got-damn, I love the man.
Yes, John McCain has pissed me off already on a number of issues - nothing new there, but, look at the results and the consequences of the election going ANY other way. Obama? Hillary? Give me a fucking break with all this “well, I’ll just take my ball and go home” shit.
There’s a war on. Haven’t you read the papers? So, please America, give me another 8 years with a warrior. He’s the only one we’ve got!
May 5th, 2008 at 10:14 pmConservative and not voting for McCain? Then just stay in your compound and shut up.
If conservatives come out and vote up the ballot, McCain will have to respond to the power that got him in office. If he gets in by more moderate voters he will have to respond to them. Who do you want him to be loyal to?
It’s politics, grow up choose the lesser of evils. It’s easy for me because I look higher for my personal guidance and leadership.
May 6th, 2008 at 12:19 am“Rumors of the death of Europe may, to paraphrase Twain, may turn out to be greatly exaggerated”
yeah, MT appears to be the consciensness adviser of many dellusioned smart asses, though, the pilgrinage have always been from west to east as far as the search of sources, not the inverse, yeah, may-be in a decade the taoism and Confucius would inspire them
May 6th, 2008 at 2:35 amyeah i got to agree with drill, while i know it might pain some people to have to compromise, the ticket in november comes down to this, (1) maybe lose on immigration or (2) lose on immigration and the war in Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan.
Remember this, the congress has more power on immigration, so for those who are concerned, at least McCain will be out of there, however on the issue of foreign policy the president pretty much a free hand, look at Bush in the last 6 years, the dems haven’t been able to stop him.
May 6th, 2008 at 3:14 amTo me the key is to bite my lip and vote for McCain while I vote for the MOST conservative Congressmen and Senators. We have no good choices other than McCain. As Conservatives we need to take our party back at the local level. I promise to actively campaign for someone else if they stray from their foundation and in the mean time pray that McCain does not drag our party into the ash heap of history by reaching across the isle in an effor to compromise. It’s time we bring them to our way of thinking and make sure McCain understands this via our elected officials.
May 6th, 2008 at 4:45 amA saying I’ve heard from a Greek goes, “The Turk will burn his blanket to kill a flea.”
I have a choice, vote for someone who I only half agree with, or withhold my vote, thereby aiding someone who despises me and pisses on everything I care about. This should not be a tough one.
The ‘if my party’s candidate isn’t perfectly orthodox I’m staying home’ mindset is like pacifism. Refusing to help the good because they’re not perfect is aiding and abetting the bad. Far too many people make the perfect the enemy of the good.
Instead of doing everything you can to drive McCain to the left, try bringing him back to the right. Otherwise, cling to your delusions of moral superiority, small protection that they’ll be when the country starts falling apart.
May 6th, 2008 at 5:01 amBingbingbing!! ticticboom gets the award for the correct response!! Not voting for the Republican who’s on the ticket is basically a vote for Obama or Hillary. The types who say they won’t vote for McCain because of this or that but claim to be conservatives are conservatives in name only (CINO).
I also agree with hegelbot :
“congress has more power on immigration, so for those who are concerned, at least McCain will be out of there, however on the issue of foreign policy the president pretty much a free hand”
So get out there and vote in McCain for national defense and congressmen who will seal our borders!
May 6th, 2008 at 5:17 amhttp://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/05/mccain-to-speak-at-open-borders-la-raza-the-race-conference/
May 6th, 2008 at 5:42 am“I am continually perplexed by people who are moderate to strict conservative voters who, because they aren’t in total agreement with John McCain, “~~~
McVain is in total disagreement with those he needs to win,and he obviously doesn’t give a crap.
1)AMNESTY/NO FENCE
GANG OF 14
2)HOUSING BAILOUT
3)GUN CONTROL
4)GLOBAL WARMING
5)DRILLING ANWR
6) WATERBOARDING
7) McVAIN FEINGOLD CAMP. REFORM
9) PARTY CHANGE
10)BEANER BUTT KISSING
THE LIST GOES ON .THERE IS DAMN LITTLE TO AGREE
May 6th, 2008 at 5:46 amWITH THIS LITTLE PECKERWOOD ON, LET ALONE “TOTAL AGREEMENT”
TWO MORE THINGS FOR YOU STUPID MCCAIN VOTERS TO THINK ABOUT. THE LEFT PICKED HIM FOR US CONSERVATIVES DID NOT! SECONDLY, IF WE VOTE FOR MCCAIN WE AS SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS WILL BE STUCK WITH THAT BASTARD FOR 8 LONG YEARS AS OUR CHOICE!
May 6th, 2008 at 5:47 amTEDDERS YOU DON’T HAVE A STINKING RIGHT TO SAY THAT WE ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE WE WON’T VOTE FOR MCCAIN!! WE ARE NOT THE ONES VOTING FOR A STINKING LIBERAL BASTARD YOU ARE JERK!
May 6th, 2008 at 5:49 amTICTICBOOM - SAME FOR YOU AS I SAID TO TEDDERS!
May 6th, 2008 at 5:51 amIF YOU INSIST ON SCREAMING … WE WILL JUST HAVE TO IGNORE YOU
SO, STAY HOME AND DON’T VOTE FOR MCCAIN!
The rest of us aren’t choosing being eaten by the sharks simply because we don’t want to climb into the leaky boat …
Once inside you try to stop or slow the leak while scooping out the water until you’re safely ashore …
Steve is right:
“If conservatives come out and vote up the ballot, McCain will have to respond to the power that got him in office. If he gets in by more moderate voters he will have to respond to them. Who do you want him to be loyal to?”
THAT, and McCain realizing he MUST choose a conservative Veep …
Let’s not forget.
George W. Bush did not believe in “nation building”.
We seem to be doing just that in at least two countries in the Middle East.
What you see in previous political theater and on the campaign trail is NOT what you always get in the Oval Office.
It’s a whole different beast once you’re looking into its mouth.
May 6th, 2008 at 6:13 ambill is probably an agent provacetuer. Everything that it says, or rather shouts, is an attack on Republicans. If it is serious, the Secret Service should keep an eye on it.
May 6th, 2008 at 6:31 amPaul Nut?
May 6th, 2008 at 8:18 amI agree with SteveinNC, JamesJihadThis, Drill, Tedders and TicTicBoom. Bill sounds like a provocateur with all his YELLING and “He’s Evil”ing. Once we get the Maverick, it’s up to us to throw the hammer at him, AND CONGRESS, to do the right thing. Most Maverick bench sitters, might reconsider once they know who his VP will be and/or Administration picks. He’s still better than turning the U.S. into the U.S.S.A. with the Marxist Lightweight B. Hussein or Hillary.
May 6th, 2008 at 8:45 amSOMEONE HASN’T TAKEN THEIR MEDICATION TODAY…
Ugggh, my head hurts from all the lunatic ramblings from Bill
May 6th, 2008 at 8:51 am@ cdlester2
Voting McCain is just a lighter shade of liberal than the Dems on a variety of issues(immigration, global warming, McCain/Feingold, closing Gitmo, etc). I don’t trust him, plain and simple. At least Clinton and Obama don’t pretend to be conservative.
My point about my values is that I don’t want to compromise any of them. If there are no political candidates that share my values, then I am going to vote for someone who does. If you moderates want to bite the bullet and vote for the lesser evil, then go for it. I’m not trying to tell anyone how to vote, just telling ya’ll how I am going to vote.
Besides, you ignored my most important: McCain is banking on Independents and moderate Democrats to get him elected. He couldn’t give a rat’s ass about us maverick conservatives. So, fine, have fun with that McCain. I’ll be writing in my own candidate this November.
If that makes me a a spoiled, whiny child, cdlester2, then I’m fine with that.
May 6th, 2008 at 8:57 amLook, we don’t have good candidates to chose from. People get the government we deserve. Our society destroys the best people before they have a chance to run for office. Destroys their desire to run–the hoops they have to jump, the hassles, the invasion of privacy, the media lynchings. So they go their own way and run their businesses, pursue their careers, etc. So we have to choose from Billary, Obama and McCain. Like having to choose between a Pinto, a Chevette and a Scion when you want to choose between a Cadillac, Porche and a Lexus. Oh well. Do the best with what you have.
May 6th, 2008 at 8:59 amOK, maybe I insulted McCain by calling him a Scion. I don’t know anything about those–I see them on the road. He’s probably more like a 1972 F100.
May 6th, 2008 at 9:02 amBill - just how big is that bug up your ass? - Holy shit! - CAPS LOCK OFF, IDIOT!
reminds me of my 4 year old - I want this!!! I want this!!!…when presented w/the opportunity of compromise or nothing at all, she at least can see the sense of compromise.. TicTic, Bill, NCSteve…got it right… Bill can’t seem to see that if Obama or Hill get in then even the current “status quo” will take a hard left turn, then when, and if, a conservative get’s into office we’ll have that much more ground to recover, just to get back where we are right now. Apparently the Euro’s are coming around…now libtards and tantrums by unsatisfied folks like Bill would facilitate a liberal turn, while western democracies look to be turning in the opposite direction.
May 6th, 2008 at 9:54 amApparently the Euro’s are coming around…now libtards and tantrums by unsatisfied folks like Bill would facilitate a liberal turn, while western democracies look to be turning in the opposite direction.
that’s confusing, how can the euro’s be around while they turned right, even Londonistan did it
May 6th, 2008 at 10:33 amThe only way I’d vote for MacNasty is his VP choice. But MacNasty can’t help himself; he will pick a Kommiecrat just to poke a conservative in the eye.
Its not national security that makes the US Top Gun, its the economy. Without a strong economy our military will suffer greatly…that was the advantage of Romney.
MacNasty has yet to prove himself an asset. Consider NC, he just had to poke the NC in the eye, couldn’t help himself. The man is an ass
With that attitude do you really think he will pick constitutional Judges? secure the border? Not raise taxes (which he already has promised to do with the MacNasty-Liberman)?
I’ll wait for the VP choice but MacNasty will pull through & screw conservatives again and again. He can’t help it…
May 6th, 2008 at 10:35 amYou are right.
The liberals and the MSM in this country still have hold over the ‘minds’ of folks in this country, convincing them that Utopia can exist … and THEY are the ones to bring it to the masses.
People in this country looking for more government hands in their pockets, and pushing for nationalized healthcare should wake up and smell the used-hospital-sheets at how things have failed in the European socialized systems … and how they are trying hard now to get the hell out of it.
May 6th, 2008 at 10:57 amJerb…. I didn’t necessarily mean to imply you were a whiney, spoiled child. My point being the system we have is the system we have. Our founding fathers put together the most amazing government which gave you and me the right to choose our elected leaders. Is it perfect, obviously not, however a vote against McCain is a vote for the Democrats. Unfortunately that’s reality.
I respect the fact that you feel strongly about your values and beliefs. That in itself is honorable. However, the system we currently have does not recognize “maverick” conservatives such as yourself, and frankly probably never will. WE as a people, as Americans must realize that the majority of us actually fall into the middle of the political spectrum, and I would venture to say that there are only a few major issues that make us either Democrats or Republicans. Fortunate or unfortunate: Majority rules.
May 6th, 2008 at 3:49 pmMcCain is definitely not my choice, but..
May 6th, 2008 at 7:14 pmIf hillary or obama get in and the dems screw everything up, which they will if they get in, not even someone who is the second coming of President Ronald Reagan would be able to turn things around. The govt is far bigger and the Universities and MSM are far more liberal than when carter was in, and Pres. Reagan turned our country around. If a dem lib gets in all illegals will be voting in a year, the dems are counting on that to stay in power, what 20 million more voters voting for the dems. McCain is weak on the boarder, but like others have said he may listen to us after he is elected. The dem libs will be racing to make that change and won’t pay any attention.
Also, I believe Mccain has said he will appoint judges that have actually read the Constitution. A lib dem will pack the Supreme court and other courts with extreme liberals to aid in their push for out and out socialism in the USA. How many times when you read or heard about some judge at any level doing something completely against what you believe, he is usually appointed by Clinton. I pray McCain picks a very conservative VP that can lead the ticket in 2012.
@ cdlester2
I understand. However, given who McCain is, I don’t think us conservatives are going to have much of an effect this cycle, at least in the presidential race. If McCain gets elected it will be because of his appeal to moderate democrats and independents. Plus, I’m sure a good number of conservatives will bite the bullet and vote for him after the Dems pick their nominee. Just not me.
Also, I don’t quite buy the “If we conservatives come out strong for McCain, he’ll stay in line” argument. This is John McCain. The Maverick. He’s going to do what he is going to do. He’s proven that on more than one occasion.
i.e. last summer’s amnesty bill that was done behind closed doors. He(and many others, I don’t give him all the blame, but still, he was a part of it) tried to push that through as quick as possible before anyone could find out what it was about.
AS it stands right now, I’m more concerned about congress. Not much of a point arguing about what McCain will do if there’s a democrat controlled House and Senate that can override his veto.
May 6th, 2008 at 8:18 pmNot a decline in leftism just a decline in their power in government. They are all still out there.
May 6th, 2008 at 9:07 pm