I realize there have been those who have had abortions that later realized what they did and have fervently sought forgiveness and would never do it again. There is a lot of emotional mind games that the abortionists play with their victims, and I believe that sometimes the women getting an abortion are more victims than criminals, but this stuff is so obviously evil that I don’t see how anyone can even argue in favor of it.

Obama the idiot speaks forth again.

I believe you to be a sick hypocrite, much like I do the majority of your party, your wife, your preacher man, and your friends. I use as proof your statement of faith, how you came to know Jesus in your racist church, and your support of infanticide.

Call it what you will, whether by caveat or personal right. But the fact remains there is absolutely no medical reason that the life of a child must terminated by the most brutal of methods while residing in their mother’s birth canal. And that is exactly what you voted to allow, all under the guise of protection.

So while you masquerade as a caring and loving individual with a message of hope, using Jesus’ message from the Sermon on the Mount or invoking MLK’s great speeches, perhaps you would think about this verse too:

This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live and that you may love the LORD your God, listen to His voice, and hold fast to Him.

If Christ thought that causing a child to stumble was this contemptible, what must He think of those that kill the innocent in the womb!!!!

Obama and his kind advocate the murder of the innocent, and as such take part in a death cult as disgusting as that of the jihadi scum we seek to destroy.

God will judge them all…

It just has no “moral weight” to God in his eyes, only to those, like his own daughters, whom he would never want “punished with a baby”.

To Hussein both morality AND faith are validated by their value to the achievement of personal goals. That’s it.

That’s also the reason for his popularity. A huge swath of this country are embracing moral relativism; and a ‘leader’ that appears ‘faithful’ yet has no regard for ‘absolute truths’ AND then tells them it’s alright to think this way is self-affirming to them. They get to live the self-serving life they want to live.
I wish he felt the same way toward the unborn as he appears to feel toward SUVs.

and I believe that sometimes the women getting an abortion are more victims than criminals

thank you for them

I don’t know a woman (or girl) that is happy to rely on abortion.

Most of them are in poor condition. The richs have no problem with the knowledge and or the money, they can buy the “tomorrow pill”, or abort with a decent delay in a convenient clinic ; a decent delay is when the “foetus” is still an amont of cells that are not viable. It is rare that the woman don’t feel when she is pregnent after a month. Abortion should remain exceptional and executed in a shorter delay, 2 months maximum.

the long delays that are often proposed are inherent with the aleatory of the appointments in a clinic

might be that these candidates to abortion don’t get the proper help from the medics or institutions (and from the people)

Anyway, on that board, the persons who condamn the most abortion, just do it from an ideologic agenda, (escuse-me, the God invocation here is not relevant) I didn’t see one single person that wants to think on how to handle the non-desired pregnencies problem, just condamn, wether the women, wether their antipathic candidate.

hey, an idea, go back to middle-ages : think how to eliminate the women that have to abort, they also deserve death penalty,

Well of course it wouldn’t be to those that don’t believe in God.
And those whose morality depends on their dayplanner. Like yourself.

And those whose morality depends on their agenda. Like yourself.

“escuse-me, the God invocation here is not relevant”

I said it because I found irrelevant that you dare to push God in your argumentation whenever you need some heavy weight, Macchiavel in hell !

I already said That I am not a religious person in that way I don’t fnd a religion in which I would feel confortable, though I am sensible to the ambiant spirituality and to humanity

Is your God in whom you believe so dry ?

lol

“…I don’t fnd a religion in which I would feel confortable”

well of course you don’t.
absolute truths are not always “comfortable”.
witness your ‘comfort’ with the murder of the unborn and the murder of innocents by ‘palestinian’ terrorists with whom you sympathize.

“I said it because I found irrelevant that you dare to push God in your argumentation whenever you need some heavy weight…”

Yeah God is something of a heavyweight and I’m pleased that he informs my opinions on justice and truth.
Try it yourself sometime…. it’s not as ‘uncomfortable’ as it is obvious you assume it to be.

“…Macchiavel in hell !”

Yes, that is where I believe you will find him.
You’ll be joining him there one day franchie.

really ? are you sure it’s not the temptation in the desert ?

Try it yourself sometime…. it’s not as ‘uncomfortable’ as it is obvious you assume it to be.

I thought you were more subtil, I ment the religion dogmas,
and spirituality doesn’t mean atmosphere, remember you put a poem from Wordsworth on board, was it only because you wanted to show off your culture ?

…

Refrain

witness your ‘comfort’ with the murder of the unborn and the murder of innocents by ‘palestinian’ terrorists with whom you sympathize
…

absolute truths are not always “comfortable”.

Absolu, is not infini, there is a long path… not confortable either

Yes, that is where I believe you will find him.
You’ll be joining him there one day franchie.

mirroir, ô mon beau mirroir…

anathems

IDIOT, n.
A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controlling. The Idiot’s activity is not confined to any special field of thought or action, but “pervades and regulates the whole.” She has the last word in everything; her decision is unappealable. She sets the fashions and opinion of taste, dictates the limitations of speech and circumscribes conduct with a dead-line.

though you copied a digression She sets the fashions and opinion of taste, should go in your stylist post

I see there more a definition of the “Femmes savantes” de Molière

As far as the educated women are concerned, “they are not ridiculous, they want to learn, but because they believe that they are learning, they merely attend pedants without talent.

for you now

pedant :

byzantin, cuistre, doctoral, suffisant.
poseur, prétentieux, pontifiant, emphatique, vaniteux.

a male schoolteacher
one who makes a show of knowledge
one who unduly emphasizes minutiae in the presentation or use of knowledge
a formalist or precisionist in teaching

and doubbled with

asshole urban dictionnary

someone being arrogant, rude, obnoxious, or just a total dickhead….

nice divine thought

GRIZZ, do you think this is applicable to each christian ?

She has nowhere TO go but farther down the rabbit hole of her existence.

I suppose to you “idiot” would be a compliment.

you don’t seem to enjoy your life, unlike me ;

I have decided since a few decades that I should not worry for the things that not depend on me, and rather focus on the epicurian ones, enjoy the every day little things, light conversations as well as deep philosophical or political concerned ones ; though, also unlike you, I don’t make it in the partisanery, or “absolute truths”, I try to stay on the “relative moral” borders, truth and or reality are not what we see in the appearences and certainly, not definitive. I may be more a spectator than an actor, though that is my situation (fate) on the earth, and I have admitted it ; is it wiseness or “idioty” ?

I suppose to you “idiot” would be a compliment.

why not ? your unhappy, see who is the winner there

She has nowhere TO go but farther down the rabbit hole of her existence

yeah, I like underground culture, where I feel like a “blade runner” in the “obscur cities”…

for your culture, uh, wikipedia would do it here :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Schuiten

And i’m glad to see you acknowledge your moral relativity. as they say in MOST addiction recovery programs; realizing that you have a problem is the first step toward fixing it.
and make no mistake, you ARE an addict. probably the worst kind in fact because you are addicted to yourself and serving and delighting yourself. in THIS post by fancying yourself to be a ‘blade runner’ type personality… and yes again that is “idioty”.

as for your trouble with ‘absolutes’ and the road to your recovery from the quagmire you’re in of, as you say yourself, “truth and or reality are not what we see in the appearences and certainly, not definitive.”; let’s start simply…. you deal with absolute truths and reality every day, you just either don’t recognize them as such or you choose to either ignore or blame someone else that does not really exist for those that are uncomfortable.
if i were to see you on the street and punch you in the face, there would then be a couple of absolute truths in that simple yet satisfying (to me) reality… first, it would be ‘absolutely true’ that it was me that did it and, second, it would be ‘absolutely true’ that it hurt like hell.
see? two ‘absolute truths’ in just a minute of typing bliss for me.
we can start with those two and work our way up to God and “Thou shalt not murder” now if you like; since you enjoy those “deep philosophical or political concerned ones” conversations which you hide the barrenness of your ‘relative’ existence behind.
As the saying goes…”reality is that which persists after you stop believing in it.”

I think that you need to undermine me (not only) because it makes you feel more secure, I think your afraid of the movements and diversities, I think you need strong placemarks…though your stiffness will strangle you…your becoming narrow, narrow, narrow minded and not happy

I come back later on for the different points you raised above (duty sometime is on here)

Uh no. I do not care about you at all personally. I object to your sympathy toward murderers. And that’s pretty much it.

The rest was just an offer to help with your addiction to yourself. Certainly don’t feel any need to continue trying to do that.

I’m a very open minded person… just not so open that, like you, someone could fly an airplane or two through the openings.
And very happy as well. I reconcile myself to the fact that there are morally bankrupt persons like yourself living in the world and I try and help where possible.

And very happy as well.

yeh, you have all the appearences

I reconcile myself to the fact that there are morally bankrupt persons like yourself living in the world and I try and help where possible.”

how ? anathems

I do not care about you at all personally.

yeah ? doesn’t seem so by Sanford Windstream

I object to your sympathy toward murderers. And that’s pretty much it.

that’s what you persist to say, to save the appearences of your aleatory high moral standards.

uno, I never said that I approved the abortions when they are for confort sake, or operated when the foetus is already shaped.

deuxio, neither said that I supported the Pals in their attacks on Israel, I defy you to find a sentence that says so.

now, I’ll make a clarification on your former post either, apparently you still want to cross the sword with me, in spite of your denegations

And i’m glad to see you acknowledge your moral relativity. as they say in MOST addiction recovery programs; realizing that you have a problem is the first step toward fixing it.

and make no mistake, you ARE an addict.

Come on doctor, can you help me, you have the knowledge, I am patient and volontary to recover a good mental health.

probably the worst kind in fact because you are addicted to yourself and serving and delighting yourself.

not you ? can’t see you are a humble person in your posts ;
the difference with you is that I acknoledged it.

in THIS post by fancying yourself to be a ‘blade runner’ type personality… and yes again that is “idioty”.

yeah, a kind of digression for fooling the master

as for your trouble with ‘absolutes’ and the road to your recovery from the quagmire you’re in of, as you say yourself, “truth and or reality are not what we see in the appearences and certainly, not definitive.”; let’s start simply….

you deal with absolute truths and reality every day, you just either don’t recognize them as such or you choose to either ignore or blame someone else that does not really exist for those that are uncomfortable

yeah, don’t tell me that you deal with absolute truths on the net or when you dissect the politician discourses, or when you push your ideas in the front, because there they are no reality, but virtuality.

the truth I enconter is when I experience some situation, but I definitely will not set it valable for the whole communauty, only if the same conjectures and reactions are repeted. I am not a bibliotheque rat, though I get some books for precised interrogations.

if i were to see you on the street and punch you in the face, there would then be a couple of absolute truths in that simple yet satisfying (to me) reality… first, it would be ‘absolutely true’ that it was me that did it and, second, it would be ‘absolutely true’ that it hurt like hell.

yeah, that’ll make a real asshole of you, though don’t expect me to stay quiet, I’ll return you the punches

see? two ‘absolute truths’ in just a minute of typing bliss for me.

yeah, virtual chouchou

we can start with those two and work our way up to God and “Thou shalt not murder” now if you like; since you enjoy those “deep philosophical or political concerned ones” conversations which you hide the barrenness of your ‘relative’ existence behind.

yeah ? where is your non-barrenness of your true existence

apart your “education” sources ?

As the saying goes…”reality is that which persists after you stop believing in it.”

a maxime that surely suits you

I know that the reason for that is because that worldview is not now, nor has it ever been, *supportable*. It is, however, self-serving, and that appears to be what is of the utmost importance to you.

You would do well to read a book once in a while.
I’d recommend The Bible.

Now run along and play Blade Runner…..

not convaincing, I felt nothing

Again you reduce your own ‘argumentation’ to ad hominem attacks and offer no support let alone proof for your “*“truth and or reality are not what we see in the appearences and certainly, not definitive.”*” worldview.

wanna a “true” concret exemple ? YOU

I know that the reason for that is because that worldview is not now, nor has it ever been, *supportable*. It is, however, self-serving, and that appears to be what is of the utmost importance to you.

yeah, can’t see that your doing something else on that board

You would do well to read a book once in a while.
I’d recommend The Bible.

BIBLE is for subjugating the “others” in your mind, ever practice it ? or the “delicat” versets, ya know, those that are similar to Koran’s

I have read as many books as you, except for the “education ressources” and political ones ; can’t stand the politician prose, do you ?

be aware that Blade runner might meet you in “true” underworlds

buh bye