Comments on: Seattle City Gun-Owner Rights In Trouble https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/ The latest in policital news and the war in Iraq Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:13:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Sully0811 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191820 Sully0811 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:56:28 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191820 Someone needs to drill it into these bastards heads that it's not law abiding CCW holders who commit crimes. Then again that would require them to base a decision on fact and DoJ statistics instead of pandering to the nanny state community. Someone needs to drill it into these bastards heads that it’s not law abiding CCW holders who commit crimes. Then again that would require them to base a decision on fact and DoJ statistics instead of pandering to the nanny state community.

]]> By: Phil N Blanx https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191823 Phil N Blanx Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:00:00 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191823 My first response to the article was; I wonder if he had a CCW permit? Unfortunately, yes. Some background from <a href="http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2008/05/man_suspected_in_shooting_at_n.html" rel="nofollow">an earlier AP article</a> (Caps and parenthesis mine) -- SEATTLE -- The man arrested in a shooting at the Northwest Folklife Festival in Seattle HAS A LICENSE TO CARRY A PISTOL and takes medicine for mental problems. The 22-year-old Snohomish man, Clinton Chad Grainger, is jailed in Seattle for investigation of assault. Three people were wounded Saturday when Grainger's gun fired as he was scuffling with another man at the Seattle Center. Information at his bail hearing Monday disclosed Grainger TAKES MEDICATION FOR ANXIETY AND SCHIZOPHRENIA and has been in a METHODONE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM (heroin abuse). The Snohomish County sheriff's office says Grainger was issued a concealed weapons permit in January 2007. Capt. Kevin Prentiss says when people apply for a concealed gun permit they are asked to disclose serious mental health problems. My first response to the article was; I wonder if he had a CCW permit? Unfortunately, yes.

Some background from an earlier AP article (Caps and parenthesis mine) –

SEATTLE — The man arrested in a shooting at the Northwest Folklife Festival in Seattle HAS A LICENSE TO CARRY A PISTOL and takes medicine for mental problems.

The 22-year-old Snohomish man, Clinton Chad Grainger, is jailed in Seattle for investigation of assault. Three people were wounded Saturday when Grainger’s gun fired as he was scuffling with another man at the Seattle Center.

Information at his bail hearing Monday disclosed Grainger TAKES MEDICATION FOR ANXIETY AND SCHIZOPHRENIA and has been in a METHODONE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM (heroin abuse).

The Snohomish County sheriff’s office says Grainger was issued a concealed weapons permit in January 2007.

Capt. Kevin Prentiss says when people apply for a concealed gun permit they are asked to disclose serious mental health problems.

]]> By: Molly https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191824 Molly Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:00:34 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191824 What's the point of even having a public hearing if the city council can't even vote on the issue? Typical fucking Libs. :evil: What’s the point of even having a public hearing if the city council can’t even vote on the issue?

Typical fucking Libs. :evil:

]]> By: CPLViper https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191828 CPLViper Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:02:39 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191828 Ok, now that people will be completely unarmed at a public areas, pickpockets and perverts are free to roam the gatherings unabated and without fear of women protecting themselves with force. Nice job mayor. Ok, now that people will be completely unarmed at a public areas, pickpockets and perverts are free to roam the gatherings unabated and without fear of women protecting themselves with force. Nice job mayor.

]]> By: cllucas https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191834 cllucas Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:14:52 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191834 I'm sure the anti-gun folks salivated that he had a CCW. I’m sure the anti-gun folks salivated that he had a CCW.

]]> By: Pegleg https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191837 Pegleg Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:17:31 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191837 Typical BS of the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of the Puget Sound. Typical BS of the People’s Democratic Socialist Republic of the Puget Sound.

]]> By: AmericanJarhead https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191842 AmericanJarhead Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:22:48 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191842 Well, since guns will be banned, there will never ever possibly fricking ever be another shooting on public property! Everyone rejoice! Well, since guns will be banned, there will never ever possibly fricking ever be another shooting on public property! Everyone rejoice!

]]> By: Steve in NC https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191848 Steve in NC Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:25:01 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191848 I am sure the felons and feral humans will abide by this ban. I am sure the felons and feral humans will abide by this ban.

]]> By: Clutch250f https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191879 Clutch250f Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:12:34 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191879 How come i'm really not surprised. But i'm surprised that the Olympia didn't think of this first. You guys got to remember this is the same city that will be charging us 20 cents for paper or plastic bags at the grocery store, increased our sales tax, charging us too much for car tabs oh and now we get to pay sales tax on internet purchases. So this to me isn't surprising. You walk to pike place liberal central. I walk down there and i want a concealed carry. But i guess it doesn't help that i wear a Operation Iraqie freedom shirt. How come i’m really not surprised. But i’m surprised that the Olympia didn’t think of this first. You guys got to remember this is the same city that will be charging us 20 cents for paper or plastic bags at the grocery store, increased our sales tax, charging us too much for car tabs oh and now we get to pay sales tax on internet purchases. So this to me isn’t surprising. You walk to pike place liberal central. I walk down there and i want a concealed carry. But i guess it doesn’t help that i wear a Operation Iraqie freedom shirt.

]]> By: ticticboom(Will Kill For Oil) https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191886 ticticboom(Will Kill For Oil) Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:20:39 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191886 Considering the guy is schitzophrenic and shouldn't have had a weapon in the first place, how would this have stopped the shooting? Criminals and crazy people have this bad habit of ignoring the law. And how will he enforce this? Airport-style security at every public event? How does he plan on paying for that? Considering the guy is schitzophrenic and shouldn’t have had a weapon in the first place, how would this have stopped the shooting?

Criminals and crazy people have this bad habit of ignoring the law.

And how will he enforce this? Airport-style security at every public event? How does he plan on paying for that?

]]> By: RJI https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191927 RJI Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:19:17 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-191927 CCW permits are not handed out like Candy. Someone failed to note his medical conditions....IF they had reported them properly then they would be in his BACKGROUND DATA...i.e. his criminal ck. The Korean mass murderer in VA and his homicidal insanity was not properly reported by a JUDGE! IF CCW permit holders are at the event and a nut case starts to whack folks he can be dealt with...without hoping for police to arrive. Next...HOW WILL THEY ENFORCE THIS ILLEGAL BAN????BY SEARCHING EVERYONE FOR a GUN??????????? Concealed Carry when done properly...means you can not detect the gun on the person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too little time so many REALLY STUPID Mayors and DEMS LIKE OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!Who know nothing about self defense or COMMON SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!! CCW permits are not handed out like Candy. Someone failed to note his medical conditions….IF they had reported them properly then they would be in his BACKGROUND DATA…i.e. his criminal ck. The Korean mass murderer in VA and his homicidal insanity was not properly reported by a JUDGE!

IF CCW permit holders are at the event and a nut case starts to whack folks he can be dealt with…without hoping for police to arrive.

Next…HOW WILL THEY ENFORCE THIS ILLEGAL BAN????BY SEARCHING EVERYONE FOR a GUN??????????? Concealed Carry when done properly…means you can not detect the gun on the person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too little time so many REALLY STUPID Mayors and DEMS LIKE OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!Who know nothing about self defense or COMMON SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Lee Howard https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-192040 Lee Howard Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:35:33 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/seattle-city-gun-owner-rights-in-trouble/#comment-192040 Washington is a shall-issue state. I wonder if the city can trump state law? Washington is a shall-issue state. I wonder if the city can trump state law?

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