Comments on: What’s Your Opinion: Drunk Driving Hoax To Scare Teens Out Of Drinking And Driving - With Video https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/ The latest in policital news and the war in Iraq Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:13:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Clutch250f https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190821 Clutch250f Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:56:17 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190821 Great approach, the kids need to learn how their fuck ups impact everyone else. Great approach, the kids need to learn how their fuck ups impact everyone else.

]]> By: GregGS https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190823 GregGS Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:57:30 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190823 I think it's bull shit that makes individual not trust authorities ... just another scam in their minds. I say a good video of EMTs' cutting people out of cars on a friday night, or a stint keeping clean and Emergency room on a Saturday night will make them think twice about cars drinking drugs hanging around violent idiots and areas at night. I think it’s bull shit that makes individual not trust authorities … just another scam in their minds. I say a good video of EMTs’ cutting people out of cars on a friday night, or a stint keeping clean and Emergency room on a Saturday night will make them think twice about cars drinking drugs hanging around violent idiots and areas at night.

]]> By: WJC https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190829 WJC Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:03:57 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190829 Revolting!! Mind manipulation! There are so many Police now looking for DUI that alone is enough to scare the shit out of anyone driving drunk. Revolting!!

Mind manipulation!

There are so many Police now looking for DUI that alone is enough to scare the shit out of anyone driving drunk.

]]> By: Cooper https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190851 Cooper Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:16:33 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190851 Interesting; but overall, a big waste of money, time, and resources. These types of lessons show the effects of a horrible car wreck...nobody has to be taught that it's horrible and tragic. The whole "don't drink and drive" lesson has to be taught and enforced at home by the parents. The threat of strict punishment at home if I was caught with even just a beer or two on my breath was a much greater deterrant than any school program. The hellfire my dad would bestow upon me if I was caught drinking and driving was far worse than any ticket/fine/punishment the police could toss my way. Interesting; but overall, a big waste of money, time, and resources. These types of lessons show the effects of a horrible car wreck…nobody has to be taught that it’s horrible and tragic. The whole “don’t drink and drive” lesson has to be taught and enforced at home by the parents. The threat of strict punishment at home if I was caught with even just a beer or two on my breath was a much greater deterrant than any school program. The hellfire my dad would bestow upon me if I was caught drinking and driving was far worse than any ticket/fine/punishment the police could toss my way.

]]> By: Steve in NC https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190856 Steve in NC Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:20:36 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190856 What the hell is that? Immature stunt that just fosters stupid reactionary thought and actions. .. Show them picks of real crashes, have an assembly addressed by someone who has lost loved ones due to drunk driving. Show them reality not this fantasy bullshit that is dismissed as such. What the hell is that?

Immature stunt that just fosters stupid reactionary thought and actions.

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Show them picks of real crashes, have an assembly addressed by someone who has lost loved ones due to drunk driving. Show them reality not this fantasy bullshit that is dismissed as such.

]]> By: Erik Marsh https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190864 Erik Marsh Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:20 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190864 Useless and Dangerous Useless and Dangerous

]]> By: blastdad( typical white patriot) https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190896 blastdad( typical white patriot) Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:54:40 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190896 Make it real to them!! Remember the " Scared Straight " program, took young offenders to the prisons and let the murders, rapist and thugs have them for a couple hours. It was a big attitude adjustment for kids who thought they were pretty tough. Reality works every time it's tried. Make it real to them!!

Remember the ” Scared Straight ” program, took young offenders to the prisons and let the murders, rapist and thugs have them for a couple hours. It was a big attitude adjustment for kids who thought they were pretty tough.

Reality works every time it’s tried.

]]> By: franchie https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190897 franchie Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:55:00 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190897 "Mind manipulation!" can't be this effect that is researched, but more something like an emotional electro-choc ; can be good for some, but can handicapt a few that will get afraid of driving a car for the rest of their life. pics of persons that got "venerian illnesses" in the Navy happen to have a positive effect ; dunno if the accident pics would be instructive, cause we have them all days long on TV, and we don't pay attention to them anymore “Mind manipulation!”

can’t be this effect that is researched, but more something like an emotional electro-choc ;

can be good for some, but can handicapt a few that will get afraid of driving a car for the rest of their life.

pics of persons that got “venerian illnesses” in the Navy happen to have a positive effect ;

dunno if the accident pics would be instructive, cause we have them all days long on TV, and we don’t pay attention to them anymore

]]> By: dirtman https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190926 dirtman Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:17:12 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190926 What if the students pulled a stunt like that on the faculty and police. someone would be in trouble. Tricking students with the death of friends is no way to garner respect. I'd be pissed if they did that to me. Educate with tape from wrecks and ER, the biggest hurdle would be the "It will never happen to me" mentality. What if the students pulled a stunt like that on the faculty and police. someone would be in trouble. Tricking students with the death of friends is no way to garner respect. I’d be pissed if they did that to me.
Educate with tape from wrecks and ER, the biggest hurdle would be the “It will never happen to me” mentality.

]]> By: LadyAngler https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190928 LadyAngler Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:19:34 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190928 This is not a new concept. We had one of these in my high school. It was sponsored by MADD/SADD. The mock crash was actually very interesting. My mother, an ED nurse, was one of the mock responders. The students that "died" wore black and white face paint for the remainder of the day and weren't allowed to speak to anyone. It actually was a good exercise. I'm not really in favor of the police entering school and lying about a girl's death. That's pretty brutal IMO. This is not a new concept. We had one of these in my high school. It was sponsored by MADD/SADD. The mock crash was actually very interesting. My mother, an ED nurse, was one of the mock responders. The students that “died” wore black and white face paint for the remainder of the day and weren’t allowed to speak to anyone. It actually was a good exercise.

I’m not really in favor of the police entering school and lying about a girl’s death. That’s pretty brutal IMO.

]]> By: DC https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190941 DC Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:34:13 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190941 This is clearly a bullshit way of revisiting a method that has never worked. We had to watch "grisly", bloody films in school of REAL wrecks when I was getting of age to drive, and they did little or nothing to dissuade teens from drunk driving. I personally believe it begins in the home. Never allow your kids to see you driving while intoxicated.....it only reinforces that behavior in the open minds of teens. This is clearly a bullshit way of revisiting a method that has never worked. We had to watch “grisly”, bloody films in school of REAL wrecks when I was getting of age to drive, and they did little or nothing to dissuade teens from drunk driving.

I personally believe it begins in the home. Never allow your kids to see you driving while intoxicated…..it only reinforces that behavior in the open minds of teens.

]]> By: Kurt(the infidel) https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190947 Kurt(the infidel) Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:41:48 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190947 I agree that the lessons of whether to drive drunk or not starts at home. Im opposed to the fact that they mentioned a specific student but not opposed to the program itself although im not convinced that it works I agree that the lessons of whether to drive drunk or not starts at home. Im opposed to the fact that they mentioned a specific student but not opposed to the program itself although im not convinced that it works

]]> By: kg https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190970 kg Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:56:22 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-190970 The students know no one has really died. In fact the students are pulled out during class and are specifically chosen from the different groups from around campus so that most kids in school know one of the 'victims'. The grim reaper walks into class with a CHP officer, the previously determined student is pulled from class and then the CHP reads the accident report.... "so and so was killed this morning by a drunk driver...." etc. More students are pulled out during the day.. basically, one every 15 min, and once they're pulled from class, they're not seen again until the next day. Along with that a fake accident is staged with other students. It uses real police, ambulance, mediflight helicopter and body bags to dramatize the event. The 'dead' are zipped up into body bags and taken away. All the students participating in the event spend the night away from their family and friends no contact, no cellphones. They go through various discussion groups discussing the events. The students then write a letter to the parents and receive a letter from their parents and the situation becomes very emotional. The next day the juniors and seniors are brought together in the assembly where then see an edited video showing the continuation of the accident..the emergency room, the jail, the morgue. Parents come and identify bodies and the mothers always bursts into real tears as they see their son/daughter in a body bag. Fathers get choked up as they give permission to donate the organs... really powerful imagery, especially since all the victims and parents are known by the students in the audience. There is even a portion where the drunk driver (a student) is taken and booked into jail. Students then read their letters to mom and dad to the audience and parents read the letters they wrote to their son/daughter who has just 'died'. Then the real victims speak. Local family members of people killed by drunk drivers speak and tell their stories. There are tears everywhere, guys and girls... some of them openly bawling. I really don't know how effective the program is but for those days that it takes place at our school it is a very powerful thought provoking experience for the students. The students know no one has really died.

In fact the students are pulled out during class and are specifically chosen from the different groups from around campus so that most kids in school know one of the ‘victims’. The grim reaper walks into class with a CHP officer, the previously determined student is pulled from class and then the CHP reads the accident report…. “so and so was killed this morning by a drunk driver….” etc. More students are pulled out during the day.. basically, one every 15 min, and once they’re pulled from class, they’re not seen again until the next day.

Along with that a fake accident is staged with other students. It uses real police, ambulance, mediflight helicopter and body bags to dramatize the event. The ‘dead’ are zipped up into body bags and taken away.

All the students participating in the event spend the night away from their family and friends no contact, no cellphones. They go through various discussion groups discussing the events. The students then write a letter to the parents and receive a letter from their parents and the situation becomes very emotional.

The next day the juniors and seniors are brought together in the assembly where then see an edited video showing the continuation of the accident..the emergency room, the jail, the morgue.

Parents come and identify bodies and the mothers always bursts into real tears as they see their son/daughter in a body bag. Fathers get choked up as they give permission to donate the organs… really powerful imagery, especially since all the victims and parents are known by the students in the audience.

There is even a portion where the drunk driver (a student) is taken and booked into jail.

Students then read their letters to mom and dad to the audience and parents read the letters they wrote to their son/daughter who has just ‘died’.

Then the real victims speak. Local family members of people killed by drunk drivers speak and tell their stories. There are tears everywhere, guys and girls… some of them openly bawling.

I really don’t know how effective the program is but for those days that it takes place at our school it is a very powerful thought provoking experience for the students.

]]> By: JS https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-191084 JS Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:32:05 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-191084 And how many police officers does this take off the street? Keeping them from doing their real job, aka, catching criminals? The Drunk Driving crusade has become nothing but a neo-temperance movement in the private sector, and a major cash cow for the public sector. The statistics for drunk driving deaths, or shall I say "alcohol related deaths" are inflated only as a tool to drive government to pass more oppressive laws that will eventually criminalize you for having two glasses of wine at dinner. If we spent the time, money, energy, and political gamesmanship making sure real criminals get locked away and stay away countless more lives would be saved. And how many police officers does this take off the street? Keeping them from doing their real job, aka, catching criminals?

The Drunk Driving crusade has become nothing but a neo-temperance movement in the private sector, and a major cash cow for the public sector. The statistics for drunk driving deaths, or shall I say “alcohol related deaths” are inflated only as a tool to drive government to pass more oppressive laws that will eventually criminalize you for having two glasses of wine at dinner.

If we spent the time, money, energy, and political gamesmanship making sure real criminals get locked away and stay away countless more lives would be saved.

]]> By: PDizzle https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-191116 PDizzle Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:54:09 +0000 https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/whats-your-opinion-drunk-driving-hoax-to-scare-teens-out-of-drinking-and-driving-with-video/#comment-191116 I remember similar stunts like this when I was in high school. I couldn't help but laught at the dipshits who cried when they found out that their freinds "died." This kind of stuff never workes for me. I remember similar stunts like this when I was in high school. I couldn’t help but laught at the dipshits who cried when they found out that their freinds “died.” This kind of stuff never workes for me.

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