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	<title>Comments on: Why We Went To Iraq</title>
	<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/</link>
	<description>The latest in policital news and the war in Iraq</description>
	<pubDate>Sat,  7 Jun 2008 22:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Terry Gain</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183696</link>
		<author>Terry Gain</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>In the course of time the benefits of this war will be obvious even to liberals. For now, it is beyond rational argument that if this war had not been fought Saddam today would still be operating his terrorist training camps and would have again pursued nuclear weapons the moment sanctions ended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the course of time the benefits of this war will be obvious even to liberals. For now, it is beyond rational argument that if this war had not been fought Saddam today would still be operating his terrorist training camps and would have again pursued nuclear weapons the moment sanctions ended.</p>
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		<title>By: franchie</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183712</link>
		<author>franchie</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183712</guid>
					<description>I don't want to come back on the  real raisons for Irak War, though I must say it was the burst of getting a counscieness of the threat from AQ, also among the muslim world : that will make it question what should be sorted out from islam as religion and as tribal tradition, then it's a progress.

We used to say in Europe that wars bring progresses, medecine, culture, technology... the melting of advanced people with rustic traditions forces changes of mentalities

So, this war, as unpopular it might be, will remain in history as a new developpement for the arab world</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to come back on the  real raisons for Irak War, though I must say it was the burst of getting a counscieness of the threat from AQ, also among the muslim world : that will make it question what should be sorted out from islam as religion and as tribal tradition, then it&#8217;s a progress.</p>
<p>We used to say in Europe that wars bring progresses, medecine, culture, technology&#8230; the melting of advanced people with rustic traditions forces changes of mentalities</p>
<p>So, this war, as unpopular it might be, will remain in history as a new developpement for the arab world</p>
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		<title>By: drillanwr (hembra blanca típica)</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183721</link>
		<author>drillanwr (hembra blanca típica)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183721</guid>
					<description>:arrow: Terry Gain 

I keep coming back to the money, especially American dollars, Saddam had ... How much our troops were able to uncover ... and how much was hualed out by Saddam's family and operatives when they fled the country before and during our initial invasion.

Biological, nuke, chemical WMDs ... they were there and he had more than enough time to move them out too.

But the biggest WMD IS money ... and for all the pointing out about how in the Iran/Iraq war Saddam used chemical weapons on his own people decades ago ... Saddam Hussein was actively funding terrorism (in Israel) with his money all the way until we invaded his country.  Saddam Hussein WAS the WMD in Iraq.

If certain people cannot see that as a legitimate threat to not only our allies in the region, and have the foresight to see it as a major threat of terrorism to us (when it did not take much money at all to plan and implement 9-11-01 and Saddam was damned impressed with the results) then such 'certain people' had better NEVER be in a position of power where using one's judgement and acting on a threat is in their hands.

I won't mention any names, but am whistling and looking toward a certain democrat nominee for POTUS ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif' alt=':arrow:' class='wp-smiley' /> Terry Gain </p>
<p>I keep coming back to the money, especially American dollars, Saddam had &#8230; How much our troops were able to uncover &#8230; and how much was hualed out by Saddam&#8217;s family and operatives when they fled the country before and during our initial invasion.</p>
<p>Biological, nuke, chemical WMDs &#8230; they were there and he had more than enough time to move them out too.</p>
<p>But the biggest WMD IS money &#8230; and for all the pointing out about how in the Iran/Iraq war Saddam used chemical weapons on his own people decades ago &#8230; Saddam Hussein was actively funding terrorism (in Israel) with his money all the way until we invaded his country.  Saddam Hussein WAS the WMD in Iraq.</p>
<p>If certain people cannot see that as a legitimate threat to not only our allies in the region, and have the foresight to see it as a major threat of terrorism to us (when it did not take much money at all to plan and implement 9-11-01 and Saddam was damned impressed with the results) then such &#8216;certain people&#8217; had better NEVER be in a position of power where using one&#8217;s judgement and acting on a threat is in their hands.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t mention any names, but am whistling and looking toward a certain democrat nominee for POTUS &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: drillanwr (hembra blanca típica)</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183737</link>
		<author>drillanwr (hembra blanca típica)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183737</guid>
					<description>:arrow: franchie 

We used to say in Europe that wars bring progresses, medecine, culture, technology… the melting of advanced people with rustic traditions forces changes of mentalities

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Yes, war does have a way of doing that.  As a matter of fact a couple years ago there was a slanted news report lamenting the survival rate of American troops who would have typically died from their wounds in past wars ...

Instead of seeing this as a great accomplishment and advances in military ER and medical technology the report was disjointed at the fact the survivors were not allowed to join the body count.

And yes, I am with you ... Hopefully we are/will see a major change in mentality in that region as not only a result of this war ... but as stated in the opinion piece "they have been surprised by the stoicism of the Americans, by the staying power of the Bush administration" ... and realize you don't fuck with the USA or our interests (which, BTW, do include France).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif' alt=':arrow:' class='wp-smiley' /> franchie </p>
<p>We used to say in Europe that wars bring progresses, medecine, culture, technology… the melting of advanced people with rustic traditions forces changes of mentalities</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Yes, war does have a way of doing that.  As a matter of fact a couple years ago there was a slanted news report lamenting the survival rate of American troops who would have typically died from their wounds in past wars &#8230;</p>
<p>Instead of seeing this as a great accomplishment and advances in military ER and medical technology the report was disjointed at the fact the survivors were not allowed to join the body count.</p>
<p>And yes, I am with you &#8230; Hopefully we are/will see a major change in mentality in that region as not only a result of this war &#8230; but as stated in the opinion piece &#8220;they have been surprised by the stoicism of the Americans, by the staying power of the Bush administration&#8221; &#8230; and realize you don&#8217;t fuck with the USA or our interests (which, BTW, do include France).</p>
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		<title>By: franchie</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183754</link>
		<author>franchie</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183754</guid>
					<description>***

 "...and realize you don’t fuck with the USA or our interests (which, BTW, do include France)." :lol:

***

I don't think  your particular "Interests" had something to do, but more civilisation as a whole,  and development in a "global world"

as far France is concerned, don't you know that Koucher went to Irak last week ? that the president there asked  him to sell "modern arms" (uh, what's for ?) to whom Koucher replied (and I was surprised that he became a diplomat in the occurence) "the arms manufacturers are private and are entitled to choose themselves to which country they'll sell their stuff"... now, it was question of "Reconstruction"... may-be also of UN peace-keepers... there, " vas savoir "   :idea:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***</p>
<p> &#8220;&#8230;and realize you don’t fuck with the USA or our interests (which, BTW, do include France).&#8221; <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think  your particular &#8220;Interests&#8221; had something to do, but more civilisation as a whole,  and development in a &#8220;global world&#8221;</p>
<p>as far France is concerned, don&#8217;t you know that Koucher went to Irak last week ? that the president there asked  him to sell &#8220;modern arms&#8221; (uh, what&#8217;s for ?) to whom Koucher replied (and I was surprised that he became a diplomat in the occurence) &#8220;the arms manufacturers are private and are entitled to choose themselves to which country they&#8217;ll sell their stuff&#8221;&#8230; now, it was question of &#8220;Reconstruction&#8221;&#8230; may-be also of UN peace-keepers&#8230; there, &#8221; vas savoir &#8221;   <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif' alt=':idea:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: drillanwr (hembra blanca típica)</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183764</link>
		<author>drillanwr (hembra blanca típica)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183764</guid>
					<description>franchie ... keep the fucking UN out of Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>franchie &#8230; keep the fucking UN out of Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt(the infidel)</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183780</link>
		<author>Kurt(the infidel)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183780</guid>
					<description>And to the point about war bringing new technology and progress, World War 1 even, brought out the technology of building big powerful trucks and even the diesel engine which has helped countries build things including the Hoover Dam and ship much needed supplies all across the world in a timely fashion. just one example.

As for the threat Saddam posed pre-war. I think Saddam himself was a weapon of Mass destruction. encouraging and then paying the families of Palestinian suicide bombers around 1500 US dollars for their loved one blowing themselves up in Israel. or the Anfal Campaign where Saddam destroyed 4,000 villages and gassed and killed somewhere between 100,000-200,000 of his own people. 

I could go on and on with examples. but the short story is that this fucker needed to meet his maker, the devil, and we needed to arrange the meeting. 

I supported this war from day one and will continue to do so until our brave troops are back on US soil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to the point about war bringing new technology and progress, World War 1 even, brought out the technology of building big powerful trucks and even the diesel engine which has helped countries build things including the Hoover Dam and ship much needed supplies all across the world in a timely fashion. just one example.</p>
<p>As for the threat Saddam posed pre-war. I think Saddam himself was a weapon of Mass destruction. encouraging and then paying the families of Palestinian suicide bombers around 1500 US dollars for their loved one blowing themselves up in Israel. or the Anfal Campaign where Saddam destroyed 4,000 villages and gassed and killed somewhere between 100,000-200,000 of his own people. </p>
<p>I could go on and on with examples. but the short story is that this fucker needed to meet his maker, the devil, and we needed to arrange the meeting. </p>
<p>I supported this war from day one and will continue to do so until our brave troops are back on US soil</p>
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		<title>By: drillanwr (hembra blanca típica)</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183791</link>
		<author>drillanwr (hembra blanca típica)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183791</guid>
					<description>:arrow: Kurt(the infidel)
Amen!

I see you survived the shit-storms last night down there ...

BTW, did you get my email the other day?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif' alt=':arrow:' class='wp-smiley' /> Kurt(the infidel)<br />
Amen!</p>
<p>I see you survived the shit-storms last night down there &#8230;</p>
<p>BTW, did you get my email the other day?</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt(the infidel)</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183857</link>
		<author>Kurt(the infidel)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183857</guid>
					<description>I sure did. didnt even see that email. 

 it has been hell down here seriously, we have had a tornado watch or warning for the last 48 hours straight. thats unheard of. i just emailed you back  :smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sure did. didnt even see that email. </p>
<p> it has been hell down here seriously, we have had a tornado watch or warning for the last 48 hours straight. thats unheard of. i just emailed you back  <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: SlimReed</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183947</link>
		<author>SlimReed</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-183947</guid>
					<description>I finally watched "Charlie Wilson's War," and it seems this time, we may have learned from history.  A million dollars for schools may have been a bargain in stopping the wars a long time before they began.  Let's finish the job this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally watched &#8220;Charlie Wilson&#8217;s War,&#8221; and it seems this time, we may have learned from history.  A million dollars for schools may have been a bargain in stopping the wars a long time before they began.  Let&#8217;s finish the job this time.</p>
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		<title>By: fmder</title>
		<link>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-184139</link>
		<author>fmder</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>https://pat-dollard.com/2008/06/why-we-went-to-iraq/#comment-184139</guid>
					<description>:arrow: SlimReed
Read the book, much better.  The movie left out many key points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif' alt=':arrow:' class='wp-smiley' /> SlimReed<br />
Read the book, much better.  The movie left out many key points.</p>
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