France Honours Betancourt With The Legion d’Honneur
Her first interview
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Perhaps we should have left her down there:
http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/CharlesKrauthammer/2008/07/11/the_altar_of_soft_power?page=full&comments=true
July 14th, 2008 at 1:19 pmGoodbye Nat, you mean Bush ? cause he made a personnal phone call to IB
And this article is exagerated, can see there some professional BShitter
July 14th, 2008 at 1:33 pm… Upon her liberation, Betancourt offered profuse thanks to God and the Virgin Mary, to her supporters and the media, to France and Colombia and just about everybody else. As of this writing, none to the United States. …
I noticed too in her NBC interview, when asked by “Curry” if American military had been ’seen’ during her rescue, she said ’she only saw Columbian military’ …
The fact that Curry even posed the question is suspect … to me atleast.
Now, my first thought was … Perhaps Columbia and the USA WANT the idea that the US military WAS NOT involved to be the perception … for whatever reason(s).
Just a “perhaps” footnote:
If it were confirmed we actually had boots on the ground in this rescue, Chavez might see and portray it as a reproach that Columbia was in cahoots with the USA, and a US invasion of Venezuela was in the works … and maybe it is in some ‘covert’ form or another.
July 14th, 2008 at 1:43 pm“Upon her liberation, Betancourt offered profuse thanks to God and the Virgin Mary, to her supporters and the media, to France and Colombia and just about everybody else. As of this writing, none to the United States.”
France did nothing to free her.
July 14th, 2008 at 1:47 pmYep… should have left her there.
Franchie,
Can you decipher that last post into some pseudo from of English? Parlez vous Anglais?
What part do I need to know more than the last paragraph to know she’s a typical frenchie; amoral and ungrateful?
Here’s another one to set the record straight. I think it was written for you.
http://neweconomist.blogs.com/new_economist/2005/06/parlez_anglais_.html
July 14th, 2008 at 1:49 pmDrill, this is an eventuality, also she denied the money ransom (that seems not to be a rumor)
where is my post N° 1
sully, you may have to drink water soon with cl in h2o, beurk !!!!!!
July 14th, 2008 at 1:58 pmDrill, this is an eventuality, also she denied the money ransom (that seems not to be a rumor)
where is my post N° 1
sully, you may have to drink water soon with cl in h2o, beurk !!!!!!
July 14th, 2008 at 1:58 pmMesdames Betancourt:
Tres bien! You’re a great example of the invincibility of the human spirit. Like John McCain.
July 14th, 2008 at 2:21 pm“Much the same thing is happening in Brussels, where ministers and officials from the new member states - many educated in the US or Britain - are often fluent in English and use it in EU meetings. Very few speak French. It is yet another reason why Blair enrages Jacques Chirac and his cronies.”
Good Bye nat, you mussen believe to the mirages, that look like , that taste like, though it is a placebo
Mme Betancourt isn’t free of her talks, and if she is, then she is a discret person ; though, like Drill, I think, it’s an agreement with the Americans that have been implicated in the operation, service secrets don’t mean nuthin for you , I see.
now, for your other quotation, I find it unrelevant, for the purpose
though, it’s true that the leaders in economy have to speak english in the mondialisation of the businesses.
As far as, EU instances are quoted, this is rather an incongruation that a country like UK dictates the policies in english, they are not fully taking part of the EU charges, though they want make sure they are benefit for them, money is the only UK concern.
This is also because there are 27 countries that have a different language, the frenchs haven’t been alone to complain, so did the Germans, the Spanishs, the Italians…
now if you have more pleasant horse farts to come, I won’t be the lad to clean them, your not funny
July 14th, 2008 at 2:25 pmok guis, I see you put me again in the spam box, yeah, fair !!!
July 14th, 2008 at 2:28 pm“Behind the rescue in a jungle clearing stood years of clandestine American work,” explained The Washington Post. “It included the deployment of elite U.S. Special Forces … a vast intelligence-gathering operation … and training programs for Colombian troops.”
Betancourt may not have thanked the U.S., but Sarkosy may behind closed doors. Besides, I doubt Betancourt reads The Washington Post. It’s a far-fetched idea to think that Europe’s LLM (left-leaning media) would credit the U.S. for a successful rescue. If something had gone wrong, though, you can bet Ameria would be plastered on the front page of papers all over the world.
July 14th, 2008 at 2:46 pm“the Washington Post. It’s a far-fetched idea to think that Europe’s LLM (left-leaning media) would credit the U.S. for a successful rescue. If something had gone wrong, though, you can bet Ameria would be plastered on the front page of papers all over the world.”
I don’t think she is actually reading papers, she has more to recuperate from the family life she couuldn’t have.
Now, it wasn’t officially an american intervention, but colombian, and also trained by former israeli agents, officially the americans only help with drones, cellulars phone spying… technical help
So, it’s a bit paranoid to expect always criticisms, and that that lots of alternative medias are caring about ; if you want that people “love” you, better not throwing on first place jeremiades at their head
July 14th, 2008 at 3:14 pmok guis, I see you put me again in the spam box, yeah, fair !!!
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Hun, I’ve had to fish 3 of my own comments out of Spam today … You’re NOT being targeted on purpose. Happens.
July 14th, 2008 at 3:52 pmok, Drill,I apologize
it’s because I was working on my new lap, that was free from “spam”, then suddenly it turned on to the spam effect
July 14th, 2008 at 3:58 pm“It’s a far-fetched idea to think that Europe’s LLM (left-leaning media) would credit the U.S. for a successful rescue….”
They would have had to print her thanks if she had included the U.S.
July 14th, 2008 at 4:10 pmAgain, France did NOTHING to secure her release.
Virgin Mary maybe but not France.
“if you want that people “love” you…”
What’s love got to do with it?
July 14th, 2008 at 4:12 pmThey would have had to print her thanks if she had included the U.S.
Again, France did NOTHING to secure her release.
Virgin Mary maybe but not France.
I didn’t hear her quoting France either, though even if France wasn’t operativve in her rescue, I can attest that we have heard of her for 6 years, that should be a moral support, call it whateever you want, I heard that prays help sometimes.
if France did NOTHING, as you said, it’s also to the request of Mr Bush himself, (read that on a paper a few weeks ago) that would have compromise what was on preparation since last year.
Tout ça, c’est de l’argumentation de bouts de ficelle,
hello grocer !
now for the word “love”, your arguing on the word itself, it’s not new that you, Americans, expect always , that one expresses verbally reconaissance and affectivity signs
if your always telling to the people that they are ingratful, they won’t manifest anything
I though you were a bit more “psy connected”, I guess, I am not finishing to learn
July 14th, 2008 at 4:29 pmFranchie:
I’ve lived in Europe. I’m quite aware of the left-leaning slant from the media and how it’s used to discredit America, no matter the subject. (Notice I wrote “left-leaning media” and not all media). No, we don’t need to be loved, but we deserve the truth. Isn’t that something the French pride themselves on?
I wanted to say, but forgot when I posted my last comment, that I admire you for communicating with us in English, even though it’s not your first language. Can’t find my French grammar book or I’d practice on you.
July 14th, 2008 at 4:32 pmBillie thanks for your support
the truth, you have to imagine it, because in that operation, you will only learn that that the incrimined governments let pass through the filters
there isn’t proudness or whatever in that evenmnt
OK, Tomorrow, I’ll mail to the elysee that Sarko and IB should express more warmness towards your country :lol
July 14th, 2008 at 4:50 pmFranchie:
“if France did NOTHING, as you said, it’s also to the request of Mr Bush himself, (read that on a paper a few weeks ago) that would have compromise what was on preparation since last year.”
The plot thickens: blame the Americans for France not being involved in the rescue. That’s how some people will perceive it, though not all.
Don’t know anyone else but Sully who’s concerned that France was allegedlly not part of the rescue. The best plans always take place in secret. N’est pas?
July 14th, 2008 at 5:25 pmFranchie:
Don’t get a big head now, even though I always learn something from your comments. LOL
You wrote that you’ve heard that prayers help sometimes. Pray that I find my French language book! Goin’ by memory:
July 14th, 2008 at 5:44 pmExcuse moi, je suis presse. Je vais nettoyer le cuisine.
“Don’t know anyone else but Sully who’s concerned that France was allegedlly not part of the rescue….”
Simple.
July 14th, 2008 at 7:35 pmShe thanked France.
For what? What did France DO?
That Colombian army has been financed and trained by Americans and, MUCH MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, America provided the intel for the operation. Certainly not likely that the French had anything to offer the op.
N’est pas?
Well I completely disagree with saying she should have been left with the FARC. Being someone who has family in Colombia and follows the issue closely one of the major things that gave the FARC leverage was the fact that they had high-profile hostages such as Ingrid and the 3 U.S. Contractors. Maybe France hasn’t gone into full force sending their troops into the jungles of Colombia but you won’t catch too many U.S. troops down their either. It’s a very unique and tough area and I think Alvaro Uribe has done an excellent job taking it to these rebel groups. I know France has been in talks before and they were constantly pushing for Ingrid’s freedom and as far as forgetting to thank the U.S., well what can you do? At least she didn’t say George Bush hates Latino people along with a bunch of other gibberish. Without the FARC, Colombia would definitely prosper.
July 14th, 2008 at 9:42 pmT Double Dash, thanks for clarifing a bit, though I know that France has been doing all sort of thing for freeing her since the beginnings, she is also a member of the politic intelligentia here. y comprise giving money, during Chirac time, sending an airplane with troopers in the nearest aeras they could (Guyane is not far)… now, I am sure that Bush ask Sarkozy to calm down… I am also sure that Bush call her personnaly. I’ll make a dossier when I get time
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Sully, your still a fuckin idiot, it’s normal she thanks France, (though not evident in the video)
“That Colombian army has been financed and trained by Americans and, MUCH MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, America provided the intel for the operation. Certainly not likely that the French had anything to offer the op.”
Did I say something else ? there were many posts that say so
Even on my place I made a post
Go get your buddy pisse de chat beer, at least it’s still an american product yet, I won’t certainly look for it
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Billie,
“The plot thickens: blame the Americans for France not being involved in the rescue. That’s how some people will perceive it, though not all. ”
Not at all, there isn’t “plot” actually, just that few Americans are whinning that she didn’t mention “them”. I did’nt hear anything alike blaming the Americans, here, she also ought to thank Israel then….
This is something completely pueril
July 15th, 2008 at 1:57 am“According to Pentagon officials, Colombians told the United States about the operation in the past few days. The U.S. approved the plans but had no part in them”
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/07/02/betancourt.colombia/
prout-prout, sully ?
Betancourt’s family waged a campaign for her freedom, organizing marches and events in Colombia and France. French President Nicolas Sarkozy implored the FARC to free the ailing Betancourt and sent a mission to Colombia to try to gain access to her. He also urged Colombia’s government to contact the rebels.
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who shares an affinity with the leftist FARC, also tried to negotiate Betancourt’s release as part of a prisoner swap.
But none of the efforts could bridge the gaps between the guerrillas and Uribe, whose father was killed by the FARC and who made the group’s defeat the cornerstone of his presidency.
Colombia’s government even criticized the family for its efforts to raise Betancourt’s public profile. With all the interest in her, officials said, Betancourt became too valuable a bargaining chip to be traded for anything less than a comprehensive deal. The family countered that its work had drawn attention to the plight of all Colombia’s kidnap victims.
http://www.wral.com/news/national_world/world/story/3143898/
it appears that that is mainly a colombian achievment
ok, with many helps
July 15th, 2008 at 3:27 am“Sully, your still a fuckin idiot..”
Thanks. You’re too sweet.
“ok, with many helps”
And which of those many helps was from France?
July 15th, 2008 at 5:56 amThanks. You’re too sweet.
I return you the appreciation, I have been “so called” so many times by you
And which of those many helps was from France?
as far as Betancourt’s case,
yes, humanitarian’s, she got medicine, she got news from her family through the organisation
now, Sarko was aware that something was on for a final rescue, and that he couldn’t help, just wait… and see !!!!
July 15th, 2008 at 6:04 amyeah right… wait and see what?
July 15th, 2008 at 7:12 amAnother candlelight vigil as the French contribution to…. anything?
I guess for the sully’sfuck of the day
July 15th, 2008 at 7:34 amAwww… no need to keep you waiting. After all, you’re French, you’re a moral relativist, you’re better than the rest of the planet because you can use wikipedia and gosh darn it people like you.
July 15th, 2008 at 8:56 amback on your bad moon quaters ?
you can do better
July 15th, 2008 at 9:16 amsully, what did you expect me to reply ?
July 15th, 2008 at 9:18 amAnother candlelight vigil as the French contribution to…. anything?
we contribuated to the collective humanity memory, in that evident fact that you can yoursel express in that colored attractive language, the nowadays american language, that has more idioms of french origins than the UK’s
In a way, your pursuing our mission
while we are trying to recharge our batteries and bring you some new digerable stuff that you can also handle for yours
July 15th, 2008 at 10:10 amOn another note…I took a French couple to dinner once. We were eating a calamari appetizer. A piece of calamari fell from my fish fork into my glass of water. It was a little embarrassing, but the French gentleman just smiled and remarked, “Zat eez a good place for zee fish, non?”
Oui. Merci beaucoup. The average French person is a delight. And more pro-American than the U.S. press lets on. They’re very open to discussion as long as you have something substantive to say. So when I say Vive la France, its to all those French out there, like Americans, who haven’t sold their souls to some ideological party that believes in free speech only for subversives.
July 15th, 2008 at 10:28 amBillie,
thanks a lot, it’s reinvigorating
July 15th, 2008 at 11:23 am“sully, what did you expect me to reply ?”
Whatever you like franchie. I’m sure you know by now that if I do decide to exercise my ideologically correct and party approved right to subvert your free speech by taking what you say as what you mean and objecting, you’ll be the first to know. I find you, on average, to be a delight until you opine about politics.
July 15th, 2008 at 12:05 pmMerci beaucoup.
(Yes it’s true…. I’ve been taking my state mandated French lessons.)
“Merci beaucoup.” did you opt for my locution (with its meaning) or just these 2 words ?
“until you opine about politics.”
well politics aren’t my speciality, I prefer the discussions for the sociological approach ; the politicians are more often annoying (for me)
I also could illustrate “De l’inconvénient d’être né” (Cioran) french, since I happened to get in trouble when France is on board.
Well, I also appreciate your interventions, I pick in your expressions and subtilities (quite “enrichissantes”)
by “state mendated”, do you mean you taught french or you had to learn it ?
July 15th, 2008 at 12:50 pmokkiii,
Main Entry: man·date
Pronunciation: \ˈman-ˌdāt\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French & Latin; Middle French mandat, from Latin mandatum, from neuter of mandatus, past participle of mandare to entrust, enjoin, probably irregular from manus hand + -dere to put — more at manual, do
Date: 1501
1: an authoritative command; especially : a formal order from a superior court or official to an inferior one
2: an authorization to act given to a representative
3 a: an order or commission granted by the League of Nations to a member nation for the establishment of a responsible government over a former German colony or other conquered territory b: a mandated territory
you had to learn french for your job
got to be an “american thinker”
July 16th, 2008 at 4:50 am