Hussein’s Plans For “The People” … Serfdom
By Greg Ransom (PrestoPundit)
National service mandated by the state is what Europe had for centuries. It was called serfdom. For example, in France, citizens were required to perform public service building and repairing roads and other public projects for hundreds and thousands of hours a year. Serfdom wasn’t eliminated in France until the French revolution, one of the “liberty” parts of that revolution. It was largely the American revolution which inspired this escape from serfdom. Indeed, the American revolution was all about escaping from the European model of servitude, with the American’s insisting that even very moderate taxation without representation was a form of oppressive servitude. Incredibly, Barack Obama somehow believes that advocacy of a return to European style serfdom is a good way to celebrate the American Declaration of Independence from the oppression of English tyranny.
I especially liked this part of Obama’s speech:
when I’m President, I will set a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of service a year, and for all college students to perform 100 hours of service a year. This means that by the time you graduate college, you’ll have done 17 weeks of service. We’ll reach this goal in several ways. At the middle and high school level, we’ll make federal assistance conditional on school districts developing service programs, and give schools resources to offer new service opportunities.
Your children will be made serfs. But not well. The children of the rich and privileged like those of Barack and Michelle Obama who attend elite private schools will be exempt from the system of servitude Obama and the Lear Jet Left will construct for your children.
We are quickly constructing a 2 tier system with the upper middle class being corralled into a inferior government system of medicine, education, and servitude supported by massive taxes on the the middle class — an a second tier where were the super rich live beyond the reach of government in a system of private medicine and private education supported by tax free income from bonds and income produced in sectors with massive tax rebates and tax loopholes accessible almost exclusively by corporate entities and the super rich.
And make no mistake about it. Barack Obama and almost ever other leftist Democrat in the Senate is a member of the government-free super rich tier, living outside the government schools and living off tax loophole income and tax free bonds.
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Fuck that
July 4th, 2008 at 3:20 pmBambi’s bitter half warned us in a speech she made back in Feb that “Barack will make you work…..”
July 4th, 2008 at 3:26 pmKinda surprised that didn’t cause a stir on the left. That means their gonna have to come out of Momma’s basement.
“National service mandated by the state is what Europe had for centuries. It was called serfdom. For example, in France, citizens were required to perform public service building and repairing roads and other public projects for hundreds and thousands of hours a year. Serfdom wasn’t eliminated in France until the French revolution, one of the “liberty” parts of that revolution. It was largely the American revolution which inspired this escape from serfdom”
erroné
“At the end of Middle-age, the serfdom was much more an institutionnal fossil, and when Louis XVI officially abolished it on his own lands and that the french revolution of 1789 made it for the whole country, the act had more a political signification than economical.”
“serf” ment that you belonged to your “noble” (a bit the same as for the “blacks” in the colonial properties of southern US.
http://www.balde.net/formations/travail.cours/Cours%20histoire%20travail/travail-111servi.html
“Corvée” (Corvea) would have been more accurated for the description of these public services
http://www.balde.net/formations/travail.cours/Cours%20histoire%20travail/travail-114corvee.html
it was constated that the forced labor was less productive than the volontary’s
I don’t think either that the American Revolution influenced the abolition of it, but more our “enlighteneds” (coulb be intellectuals, scientists, or any person who felt sympathy for the new ideas)
Now I don’t know what Obama is up with these hours of service, don’t think it’s legal, anywy not in my country !
July 4th, 2008 at 4:47 pmWhy is it that someone like me — a man without the benefit of higher education — can see so plainly that Mr. Obama and is wife are “flaming red” Communists. Along with whatever else he, and she, might also be (i.e. not-so-closet racists).
I, for one, don’t feel compelled to vote for this man as some sort of penance for the last 400-or-so years of human history. Although if there is one facet of this ‘Age of Euro-western Supremacy’ I do feel guilty about… it would have to be ‘Western’ man’s 19th-20th century philosophy of Socialism — with all of its’ myriad, and retched, manifestations: Eugenics, International Socialism (Communism), and National Socialism (Nazism).
All that ‘other stuff’ from the past (subjugation, servitude, and slavery) is, in truth, a commonality in the history of nearly ALL civilizations virtually everywhere on this Earth. This recent “revisionist history” — that paints our ‘revolutionary’ Western (essentially Anglo-American) Civilization as the root cause of all evil in the modern world — is all a load of bull crap!
I, for one, am certainly thankful and ‘happy’ with all the real progress our “Coal and Oil” civilization as brought to the whole of the human race. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Barack Obama can take their ‘eco-friendly [slash] citizen service’ brand of ‘militant-Stalinist’ Socialism and stuff it!
It’s a pleasant 70 degrees Fahrenheit (at 21:05 EDT) right now where I live… so where’s the ‘global warming’ triple-digit summer-long heat wave?
July 4th, 2008 at 7:38 pmWhat is so insidious, like most liberal ideas, is that the IDEA itself is, wait for it, not that bad. Public service is an admirable goal, especially to help younger folk (such as myself) get involved with their communities. The PROBLEM lies in implementation: like all statists, Obama cannot conceive of a program NOT run by the Federal Government and imposed from the top down. To top it off, he incentivizes it in such a way that only the poorer of our citizens need work in these programs; wealthier citizens (and, more importantly, the school districts which are supposed to enforce these rules) do not need the money which would be withheld should the students refuse their new “civic obligations.”
So, what his myriad of new federal programs would be doing, aside from arrogating to the federal government WAY more power and influence than permitted in the Constitution, is to force the school districts to become overseers of large pools of unpaid labor for federal projects. Again, these ideas are, in and of themselves, actually not too bad. In fact, we have several organizations ALREADY IN PLACE whose sole purpose is to instill these virtues into young people. The problem is, they’ve fallen out of favor with the PC statist crowd because they promote such outdated, non Gramscian principles such as love of Country, discipline, personal responsibility and, worst of all, some belief in a Deity. You may have heard of them, they’re called the Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, JROTC, YMCA, YWCA, and a host of other PRIVATELY funded organizations (many of whom have religious connections).
However, the above are considered evil by the liberal mindset, as they do not promote their core values: emotional supremacy, moral relativity, internationalism, atheism, and equality of outcome. Top down, government imposed programs will always be necessary to propagate these ideals because they serve nothing but to turn the Citizen into the Subject, and a very unruly and unmotivated subject at that.
Oh, and one final comment before I go: all of these things that Senator Obama wants to impose were commonplace before the mass adoption of the very liberal ideals his cronies uphold. But then, isn’t that just like a typical Gramscian whore: destroy that which allows a civil, well ordered society and then attempt to reimpose it through the effective enslavement of the populace.
Mao would be proud.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:49 pm“….love of Country, discipline, personal responsibility and, worst of all, some belief in a Deity.”
All of which, along with belief in freedom and liberty, are ‘bugs in human hardware’ that an Alinsky trained social engineer can deal with AFTER obtaining power at any cost.
July 4th, 2008 at 10:15 pm“erroné”
Why? The original post and your reply are essentially the same.
You’re French…. what say you about this article on French-like behavior and patriotism?
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDE2YmQwYmJlZTllMzdjNGQyY2FlZGZhMTM4NjAxYWE=
July 5th, 2008 at 6:02 amSully, it’s sowell, then it’s zokay
I got to come later… lots to say anyway
July 5th, 2008 at 6:23 am“erroné”
Why? The original post and your reply are essentially the same.”
yes for the description of the services, though wrongly attribuated to a serfdom that didn’t had reality since the end of middle age, where the serfs became free to join cities or another land, or make a paid labour, (cf gothic cathedrals works, stores…). “servitudes” were still requested, such as army enrollement, road maintenances… you could avoid them if you had enough money to pay someone to assure them in your place
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Now about T. Sowell’s paper, I am afraid that I have to agree with him.
my first reaction was “impossible”, I then remember my youth in a catholic school, sisters were my teachers, and we were taught the “amour de la patrie” ; also I remember the “Fêtes Dieu” parades with flower decorations on the streets ; fanfares and former soldiers also participated.
Though it was in France countryland. We had no other endoctrinnement than of the locals’ ; almost everyone lived on Agriculture, therefore no unions. I also remember the every year 11 november visit to the cemetary with our schools (boys and girls were separated), and the “anciens combattants”. We had to read loudly a fallen soldier’s name. So as far as my personnel concerns about patriotism, I would say, yes, I have known about it.
It’s later in high school that we didn’t hear much about patriotism ; though our litterature teacher made us learn Peguy’s poems ; our High School Director, that also lead the chorals, used to make us sing the “Marseillaise”, le chant des partisans (that was the 2nd WW anthem, mostly influenced by the communist resistants). Our teacher of history, that was also teacher in a parisian faculty, had more an international approach (his speciality was the ME civilisations) He didn’t emphasized the patriotism aspect. I remember him saying though that “nowadays such conflicts as WW1 or WW2 could not happen anymore, because we became intelligent since them, we export wars in other countries, specially in ME”, already.
Then patriotism was not my problem anymore, I travelled quite a lot. The “30 glorious years” allowed us the pleasure to enjoy consumerisation, travels by planes and ships, moeurs liberty. I didn’t became a lefty, cause of my prime youth in a severe catholic school, and because of my severe father. I had a farmland “bon sens” which prevented me from getting into trouble wherever I could go.
I think my generation didn’t bother of whatever war
Now, between the 2 WW, the unions were strong by us, they got the “congés payés” in 1936. While Spain, Italy, Germany became fashist countries. France was having the union wars, like in 1789 the ideas were of humanity, fraternity, egality concerns, and it was justified to display them (in their mind). “The internationale”, that had a long life, I don’t see it finishing soon, when I read the comments of my french fellows on informations blogs.
Nowadays, patriotism has no sense anymore in our EU communauty, though the nationalisms wakes up when Brussels try to cut some privileges that France, (or another country) got at the beginnings of EU.
Finally, the “internationnalists” win their war : we are in a global world, and wars are becoming religion wars, more than nationalist wars.
http://crdp.ac-amiens.fr/historial/soldat/med_peda_epreuve_pacifisme.pdf
“C’est peut-être en France que les images de la Première guerre mondiale furent les plus négatives et les plus douloureuses. Un sentiment de désillusion culturelle prit une forme nettement politique. Il y avait, naturellement, une profonde fierté vis-à-vis de la nation et de l’armée citoyenne qui avait sauvé la République. La République elle-même avait acquis une nouvelle légitimité comme symbole d’unité, après les douloureuses batailles à propos de Dreyfus ou de l’Église. Mais l’image publique dominante, le lieu de mémoire par excellence, c’était Verdun. C’était une bataille de défense du territoire national, ce que ne pouvait pas être la Somme ou Passchendaele pour les Britanniques. Mais c’était également un symbole universel de la boucherie insensée, dont l’exemple parfait était l’Ossuaire de Douaumont, cet empilement d’ossements anonymes sur le champ de bataille, sans raison ni dignité. La légende de Verdun continua de grandir après 1945, sans aucun doute parce que de Gaulle lui-même était un survivant de Verdun (comme de Lattre de Tassigny). Le seul et unique héros des années qui suivirent 1918 était celui qui commandait à Verdun, le maréchal Pétain, gardien de la « France profonde » et de ses valeurs traditionnelles, ainsi que l’avocat d’une attitude défensive derrière la protection de la Ligne Maginot.
http://www.cercles.com/actors/morgan.html”
July 5th, 2008 at 9:55 am“Now about T. Sowell’s paper, I am afraid that I have to agree with him.”
Well then you may want to get a feel for where a good deal of Sowell’s ’sensibility’ on the subject of socialism and serfdom (and the underlying philosophy of Sowell’s defense of patriotism), as well as that of the author of the post drillanwr thoughtfully provided us….
http://www.amazon.com/Road-Serfdom-Fiftieth-Anniversary/dp/0226320618
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_Serfdom
July 5th, 2008 at 3:11 pmAs I am permeable to a T. Sowell discourse, I have more difficulties to empathise Frederick Hayek’s. May-be because I didn’t have the opportunity to read a fragment of his prose.
Though, through your links, I discovered that he was M. Thatcher’s bible. UK is still ruled by Thatcher’s decisions, can’t see that the Brits became patriotic then, in the contrary they opened more their borders to a low educated immigration ; the deal was to ruin the unions at whatever price, low waged immigrants were wellcome to achieve that purpose.
The Hayek philosophy works better in an anglo-saxon world than in a latin world. We have the tradition to deal with clientelism intercourses, and the autority of a notable (in the occurence state representants) would hardly be contested, except in riots, though this is our way to move on or to resist. As far as State options, individual involvments have no weight. This is also in our frank genes, we need to rally behind a personality that embodies our psyche. Now, I would say, that not many find our agreement. Can’t see that hey have convictions.
is libertarian your option ?
July 6th, 2008 at 5:01 amLibertarian?
No.
Christian American.
The Hayek reference had nothing to do with patriotism other than the way it informed Sowell’s view that Capitalism is preferrable to Socialism. I would say that was true for Thatcher as well. I don’t think you can argue successfully that English patriotism was not at its height under Thatcher. Successful economic policy can have that effect on a nation though.
July 6th, 2008 at 6:58 am“I don’t think you can argue successfully that English patriotism was not at its height under Thatcher”
yes, exacerbated, though her brillant results were mainly to reduce a small island into reddition ; apart of this glorious fact, to add into the brisish naval hisory, she also managed to break the “entente cordiale” agreement, and make that the Brits see us again as their ancestral ennemy
“Successful economic policy can have that effect on a nation though.”
She could achieve her goals with a great help of EU subventions. She made vindicative claims to get “her money back”, without much paricipation into the apports.
is Sowell your mentor, or have you written any personnal paper on the same subjects like he did ?
I am curious to read your prose
July 6th, 2008 at 7:43 amAhh… the old jealousies surface again eh? Older even than Britain’s heavy participation in France’s emancipation from the NAZI. IF Britain sees France as an “ancestral enemy”, I’m sure that is no small part due to the unearned arrogance of French ‘culture’.
You follow my prose here much like a stalker. Exposing you to other work would only ‘exacerbate’ your rather arrogant and inept attempts to poke fun at silly Americans like myself.
July 6th, 2008 at 8:15 am“Exposing you to other work would only ‘exacerbate’ your rather arrogant and inept attempts to poke fun at silly Americans like myself.”
ah, come on sully, you are not assuring a self confidence here, why would I poke on a “fair” American ? that, plus, doesn’t split on the Frenchs
“I’m sure that is no small part due to the unearned arrogance of French ‘culture’.”
why is it when we try to, at least, to reach a patriotic goal, that the Anglo-saxons see that as an arrogant and jaelous attempt to undermine them?
now, seriously, fortunately a majority of Brits and Frenchs are above these considerations. Though for the “street people” , I can’t assure that insults or punchings won’t happen between our 2 ethnies.
Anyway, you’d better be not alone in an english pub if your a french during soccer matches.
In the contrary, in France a Brit won’t be attacked while supporting his team in a french café. He would be taken more likely for a brave and or a silly Brit
“Older even than Britain’s heavy participation in France’s emancipation from the NAZI.”
I have come to acknoledge that they were not likely to die for us, but more to prevent that their Island would also become a devasted land if they didn’t take part in our emancipation from the NazI.
Actually De Gaulle had that chance to meet Churchill, and that they understood well each others.
“You follow my prose here much like a stalker”,
not quite as much as you may wish
though, effectively I find it instructive, as far as vocabulary is concerned, (your master-class left an irreductible effect in my memory, that you might have discerned in my language results 
) not really as far as your opinion on us is concerned 
May-be also I understand lots of things between your transparent lines, anyway kind of mind same patterns
July 6th, 2008 at 9:04 am“…..why would I poke on a “fair” American ?”
>>Sociopathism?
“why is it when we try to, at least, to reach a patriotic goal, that the Anglo-saxons see that as an arrogant and jaelous attempt to undermine them?”
>>So you think the rest of the planet believing the French to be an arrogant ‘culture’ is a new phenomenon? Come to light since your new government seems to be embracing patriotism? LOL.
“I have come to acknoledge that they were not likely to die for us, but more to prevent that their Island would also become a devasted land if they didn’t take part in our emancipation from the NazI.”
>>Just because there is nothing altruistic about the French that is no reason not to allow altruism as a ‘motive’ for participation in your liberation. That’s really just a further extension of French arrogance actually.
“not quite as much as you may wish….”
>>yeah… OK…
July 6th, 2008 at 9:42 amSociopathism ???? remember “fuck the ….” you also make that
though, I am quiet now, didn’t you remarck it ?
(except when I encounter a patent “mauvaise foi”, that wakes up my martian spirit)
“So you think the rest of the planet believing the French to be an arrogant ‘culture’ is a new phenomenon? Come to light since your new government seems to be embracing patriotism? LOL.”
effectively I met such “phenomenons”, also these phenomenons were/are under the americano/brits subjugggation, say, they forgot their identity either !
now to be fair, I realise that the french culture was predominent till a few decades ago, and that being a declining nation as far economical importance is concerned,doesn’t help to keep our orb in a materialist world, where consumerisation is the nerve of the war.
(also culture, I can’t see the independant intellectual activityanymore, that we still had till WWII, that nowadays become conform to the international pacifism ambiance)
J”ust because there is nothing altruistic about the French that is no reason not to allow altruism as a ‘motive’ for participation in your liberation. That’s really just a further extension of French arrogance actually.”
what do you measure “altruistic” ?
your soldiers were altruistic when they came and, for a part of them die, you also remember how they were wellcome by the french population (at the beginnings), but your government was not altruistic”, it had no altruistic agenda, just a political agenda
July 6th, 2008 at 10:49 amSociopathism ???? remember “fuck the ….” you also make that
though, I am not unfair with fair persons.
Didn’t you notice that I am most of the time quiet now ?
(except when I encounter a patent “mauvaise foi”, that still wakes up my martian spirit)
“So you think the rest of the planet believing the French to be an arrogant ‘culture’ is a new phenomenon? Come to light since your new government seems to be embracing patriotism? LOL.”
effectively I met such “phenomenons”, also these phenomenons were/are under the americano/brits subjugggation, say, they forgot their identity either !
now to be fair, I realise that the french culture was predominent till a few decades ago, and that being a declining nation, as far economical importance is concerned, doesn’t help to keep our orb in a materialist world, where consumerisation is the nerve of the war.
(also culture, I can’t see either the independant intellectual activity anymore, that we still had till WWII ; nowadays it becomes conform to the international pacifism ambiance)
J”ust because there is nothing altruistic about the French that is no reason not to allow altruism as a ‘motive’ for participation in your liberation. That’s really just a further extension of French arrogance actually.”
what do you measure by “altruistic” ?
your soldiers were altruistic when they came and, for a part of them, die, you can also remember how they were wellcome by the french population ; your government was not “altruistic”, it had no altruistic agenda, just a political agenda, so De Gaulle had in keeping his goals alive : our identity !
We can’t afford the kind of envergure “altruisticm” you show, we have to watch out our extern and inside borders.
Your the predominent civilisation, your duty is still the protection of your infeodeds, like we did in the past centuries, quite funny till 1956, hey, didn’t we then help Israel to conter Nasser ?
now, stalkering or not your still on the line
July 6th, 2008 at 11:08 am“…remember “fuck the ….”…”
No I don’t. Remind me.
“…that still wakes up my martian spirit..”
Don’t you mean your URANUSian spirit?
“…these phenomenons were/are under the americano/brits subjugggation…”
Well no… the phenomenom of French arrogance is rather widely recognized throughout the planet.
“what do you measure by “altruistic”?”
By any measure.
Although I might be convinced that ‘political altruism’ is an oxymoron, violence requires an inner justification for not just the individual soldier but that soldiers political leadership as well and something like…oh, let’s say justice for the French populace would serve as a justification for American AND British armies to commit violence on its behalf.
You need to agree with that because your argument attempting to seperate the political leadership of America and Britain from the individual soldier isn’t holding up.
And in my opinion you need to abandon DeGaulle. His views of French nationalism did not serve the French people very well.
“now, stalkering or not your still on the line ”
whatever
July 6th, 2008 at 12:36 pmit’s taking some effort but trying to help you see the error of your ways is appealing to my own altruistic nature today
http://www.crocodilus.org/jeux/dames/dames.htm
“it’s taking some effort but trying to help you see the error of your ways is appealing to my own altruistic nature today”
yeah, I see your on a good moon
chacun sa perspective, merci pour l’effort “altruiste”
du début,, parce qu’après je n’ai rien appris de nouveau que je ne sache déjà venant de ta part.
et tu ne sais pas bien mentir
July 6th, 2008 at 1:33 pmlie?
July 6th, 2008 at 2:37 pmit’s taking some effort … really ?
July 6th, 2008 at 5:19 pmgo and see my front blog page
July 7th, 2008 at 2:35 am“it’s taking some effort..”
oh. i meant ‘for me’ to continue to be in a “good moon” in the face of arrogance
as for your blog…. i’m sure had you answered the questions truthfully your ’sociopathism’ ranking might have been much higher. But I don’t know… that’s why I put a ? with sociopathism.
oh.. and AGAIN, you really should stop relying so much on wikipedia for your info re American politics. It is common knowledge that the information is ‘controlled’ in large measure by the ‘left’ in this country. Neocon is nothing more than someone new (neo) to Conservatism (con). All that other BS is just libspeak. Those of us that have been Conservative for quite awhile welcome newcomers. Usually.
July 7th, 2008 at 6:17 am“oh. i meant ‘for me’ to continue to be in a “good moon” in the face of arrogance”
I appreciate how you usually manage to “détourner l’attention” and or “filer à l’anglaise”
“i’m sure had you answered the questions truthfully your ’sociopathism’ ranking might have been much higher. But I don’t know… that’s why I put a ? with sociopathism”
still not convinced of my “bonne foi”, hum, too many decades of disliking the Frenchs I suppose
anyway, I am not gonna make you a brain-washing, you wouldn’t like that !
“you really should stop relying so much on wikipedia for your info re American politics.”
Yes, though it isn’t evident to find (for a foreigner) a concentrated “knowledge” on such a subject. I noticed you also use wikipedia, but not for a controversed american policy, ya know it better
May-be, you have a better link to propose ????
July 7th, 2008 at 8:40 am“..détourner l’attention” and or “filer à l’anglaise..”
“May-be, you have a better link to propose ????”
Nah. I use wiki only if it matches with what I already ‘know’.
Hey… here’s a novel idea… why not read a book.
July 7th, 2008 at 9:10 am“Hey… here’s a novel idea… why not read a book”
I don’t like the policed “contes de fées” !!! can’t stand that prose,
bah, I’ll try to make two weights, one measure ; the people over there are quite an indication for me
still thank you for the moon well aspected
July 7th, 2008 at 10:01 amhuh? policed fairy tales?
people over where?
“still thank you for the moon well aspected”
oh you bet
July 7th, 2008 at 12:13 pmpeople over where?
the pro-one-side’s,
whatever country they are from ;
seriously, I prefer the geopolical approach or historical.
at the moment, I have not the opportunity to go to a books store, and I doubt that I’ll get one book there that will find your agreement.
My travels on the net are quite insructive, once I get the conact, the true informations find their ways. I can’t say it’s easy.
http://www.sandmonkey.org/2008/07/07/why-obama-will-fail/#comments
it’s a place where I know quite a few, (lots of them are gone ; yet it’s more of ME blogger’s) with whom I had interesting exchanges ; I must say that I am alone as a French on that place ; they also used to bash us a while ago, and I expect that the Frenchs who tried to incorporate the site found not worthy to discuss with persons that have such pre-avis, also, not many right-wing Frenchs waste their time on foreign places.
I do, I have the time ; I have the spirit of an adventurer.
“oh you bet”, I see, you don’t trust me
July 7th, 2008 at 1:15 pmTrust you with what?
Here’s a good start for your collection:
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=Xc6xj57Y1h4C&dq=unconstrained+vision&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=h_BMkwixkr&sig=jFbD7TNcpNLiEUB1C2HvWdUUmFU&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PPA10,M1
and maybe:
http://www.amazon.com/Blank-Slate-Modern-Denial-Nature/dp/0670031518
July 7th, 2008 at 2:04 pmI already put Sowell in my favoris
July 7th, 2008 at 2:24 pmwell try some evolutionary psychology sometime… it might help with getting your head around whether or not something like ‘objective truths’ are even a possibility.
July 7th, 2008 at 3:15 pmModern day liberalism claims to have solved the ‘nature vs. nurture’ riddle by denying that there is even such a thing as ‘human nature’.
Even lost liberal souls like your own can be redeemed…
hey, doucement ! I won’t get all your knowlege right in the minut, as far as psychology is concerned mine is more of experiences, yet not redacted, though useful in my intercourses
the term “true informations” passed over my thought, it would have been more accurate to say “sincere informations”, though I used “true”, as if I was speaking french, in that case true means that the exhanges were not fake exchanges of fanfaronades or insults
“Modern day liberalism claims to have solved the ‘nature vs. nurture’ riddle by denying that there is even such a thing as ‘human nature’.
le liberalisme moderne du jour prétend avoir résolu la charrade “nature contre nourriture” en refusant de reconnaitre qu’il y a même une une telle chose comme la “nature humaine”
I don’t know what “modern day liberalism” says, but I am aware that there is a “human nature”, that I am still trying to understand it, far from the concepts in immersing myself in the middle of it, ; this is rather an emotional experience of the human nature ; I am not a scientist, but an artist (ex), my motor is still motivated by the emotions. though I try to keep a rational regard on them… I don’t want to get lost
May-be one day something will sort out of that, some art works or writings… anyway, it’s not negative.
“Even lost liberal souls like your own can be redeemed”
well “soul” would be sufficient
redeemed ? I don’t think I belong to any category, though my world wide “trips” help me to get a vision on how the human nature things works and or evolves. It’s not yet well defined, it matures slowly… he, my brain was in fallow for a few decades : the human woman nature condition 
July 7th, 2008 at 4:18 pm“I am not a scientist, but an artist (ex), my motor is still motivated by the emotions.”
Well as an artist would you say that symmetry is an objective truth AND one that can elicit an emotional response?
July 7th, 2008 at 9:22 pm