Sniper: Syrians Were Shot To Defend Marines
The Associated Press
Posted : Thursday Jul 3, 2008 11:09:43 EDT
CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. — A Marine sniper charged in the shooting deaths of two Syrians told a military court Wednesday he believed he was protecting his troops from a roadside bomb.
Sgt. John Winnick II is charged with two counts of voluntary manslaughter and failing to adhere to the military’s rules of engagement by firing without reasonable certainty that his targets were hostile.
The June 2007 shooting began after a soda delivery truck stopped near a sniper team hideout on a busy road near Lake Tharthar, north of Ramadi in Iraq’s western Anbar province, where roadside bombs were a common threat.
Winnick fired a fatal sniper round at a man who hopped out of the cab, removed a container or bag from a side compartment, and appeared to begin digging at the ground, according to testimony from his comrades. He then killed a second man with a shotgun after the team stormed out of their hiding place.
A cursory search of the soda truck after the shooting did not reveal any bomb-making material. The truck went missing from the road before Marine investigators conducted a thorough investigation.
“I did this action in defense of my Marines,” Winnick told Marine investigating officer Capt. Jeffrey King. “I didn’t want them to end up like other Marines I have seen.”
King will recommend to Marine commanders whether there is enough evidence to bring the 24-year-old to court-martial.
An intelligence officer who oversaw Winnick’s team testified that he relieved the sniper of duty the day after the shooting because Winnick showed poor judgment by not calling a nearby Marine post for backup.
“It didn’t appear to be an immediate threat,” Capt. Oliver Dreger testified.
Winnick and his team had only been in Iraq a few days when the shooting happened. He was on his fourth deployment.
A platoon leader testified on Tuesday that the men were confused about when they were allowed to shoot in uncertain circumstances. Lt. Dominic Corabi told King two of his own superiors disagreed about the rules, and testified that a commanding officer said as long as a sniper used “sound reasoning” he wouldn’t get in trouble.
Winnick faces up to 40 years in prison and dishonorable discharge if he is tried and convicted on all counts, which also include charges of aggravated assault against two truck passengers who were injured in the firefight.
Several other men on the team were reprimanded after the shootings, according to prosecutors.
Winnick’s is the latest war-related criminal case to emerge from Camp Pendleton, including the shooting deaths of 24 Iraqi men, women and children in Hadithah after a roadside bomb hit a Marine convoy in November 2005, killing a Humvee driver and wounding two other Marines.
The Hadithah case was the largest criminal prosecution to emerge from Iraq. Eight Marines were initially charged with murder or failing to investigate, but charges were dropped or dismissed against six and one, an officer, was acquitted of charges that he failed to investigate.
An eighth Marine, squad leader Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, is the only one still facing prosecution. Wuterich, of Meriden, Conn., faces voluntary manslaughter and other charges.
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This is fucking ridiculous!!! Bomb Iran now. Attack & destroy Hizbollah now!
July 4th, 2008 at 9:29 amGood shooting MARINE.MURTHAs FAT ASS should be the one on trial.Along with DURBIN,REID,PELOSI and the rest of the LIBERAL FUCKS.HAPPY 4TH AMERICA
July 4th, 2008 at 9:37 amTravesty!
July 4th, 2008 at 9:57 amCPT Dreger; Intel officer and apparently, cock sucker. He was probably sitting in the TOC, drinking coffee and wanted to feel like he was important so he fucks over an enlisted Marine.
July 4th, 2008 at 10:06 amThe liberals in the media and government will use these cases to imasculate the Marine Corps. They will say that the Marine culture is “too violent” and the Marines training will suffer.
i saw a documentary (not by michael mooreish) last nite that the sniper let a guy go because he didn’t see weapons but suspected the guy of enemy action…moments after he let the guy of by not killing him the guy was with 2 others and ambushed an american patrol and got away again to kill more U.S. troops…
July 4th, 2008 at 10:07 am“Winnick fired a fatal sniper round at a man who hopped out of the cab, removed a container or bag from a side compartment, and appeared to begin digging at the ground, according to testimony from his comrades.”
“An intelligence officer who oversaw Winnick’s team testified that he relieved the sniper of duty the day after the shooting because Winnick showed poor judgment by not calling a nearby Marine post for backup. It didn’t appear to be an immediate threat,” Capt. Oliver Dreger testified.”
Again, an officer probably not present, skewers Marines who were in the heat of battle and armchair quarterbacks their actions. How is some unknown person digging in the ground in this IED hell not suspicious???
Further, “Lt. Dominic Corabi told King two of his own superiors disagreed about the rules, and testified that a commanding officer said as long as a sniper used “sound reasoning” he wouldn’t get in trouble.”
The problem with that is whose definition of “sound reasoning” are you going to use?? Again, a Marine in the heat of battle is going to have a different definition of “sound reasoning” than an armchair quarterback. This is an untenable situation which seems designed to get good Marines in trouble
July 4th, 2008 at 11:02 amHey JAG-asses…Stop second-guessing these young warriors. The government made the decision to send these fine warriors to war..so let them do their jobs and STFU; back off and f*ck off. REMFs suck ass.
July 4th, 2008 at 1:16 pmhorrible, this Marine is a hero. this really makes me angry.
July 4th, 2008 at 6:10 pm“…first, kill all the lawyers….”
It’s war, not Miami Vice.
July 4th, 2008 at 6:16 pmShame on the officers who would even consider charging these young warriors, let alone actually do it. We send them out to do a job, that is to protect the nation and more practically their buddies on the left, right, front and behind them. This Marine did his job wonderfully, he killed the enemy and now you have the nerve to charge him! For what? You disgrace the nation when you bring up false charges like these. This is unfreaking believeable.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:00 pm