Witness: Man Beheaded On Greyhound Bus - “ASIAN” Male Perp Identified — Victim Identified, Video, — UPDATE #8
Here you go boys & girls: UPDATE #8
Winnipeg Sun
August 1, 2008
RCMP identify man accused of beheading victim
RCMP have identified a 40-year-old Edmonton man accused of repeatedly stabbing and then beheading 22-year-old Winnipegger Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus in southern Manitoba on Wednesday night.
RCMP said Vince Weiguang Li is charged with second-degree murder. He is scheduled to appear in court in Portage la Prairie today.
McLean’s friends have identified him as the victim of Wednesday’s shocking and horrific attack, which occurred around 8:30 p.m. while the eastbound bus was 20 km west of Portage on the Trans-Canada Highway.
The driver immediately pulled to the side of the highway and everyone but the suspect and McLean scrambled off. RCMP arrested a man without incident during a standoff at 1:30 a.m. Thursday.
Police have not yet said what the motive was. Witnesses said it appears it was a random attack.
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Update #7
Just acquired Police Scanner audio from the bus attack yesterday: Perp identified as “Asian” - NOW, what part of Asia are we talking about?
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UPDATE #6
August 1, 2008 5:00 AM
(CNN) — Tributes have started pouring in for the young man beheaded in Canada while traveling home on a bus.
The Canadian Press named the dead man as Tim McLean, 22, of Winnipeg.
McLean was repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated by the man sitting next to him on a Greyhound Canada bus Thursday west of Portage la Prairie in Manitoba.
Garnet Caton, who was sitting in front of McLean, talked of a “bloodcurdling scream” when the attack began.
“It was like something between a dog howling and a baby crying, I guess you could say,” Caton said. “I don’t think it will leave me for a while.” Watch Caton describe what he saw »
Passengers exited the bus, and a trucker who stopped provided wrenches and crowbars to several of them so they could keep the suspect on the bus until police came, witnesses told Canadian TV.
The suspect was seized with the help of negotiators, Royal Canadian Mounted Police Sgt. Steve Colwell said. Watch Colwell discuss the case »
He said no formal charges had been filed, and he declined to identify either the man in custody or the victim, who were among 34 passengers.
However, several media outlets, including Canadian Press, named McLean and said he had been returning home after working on a booth at an Alberta fair.
William Caron, 23, of Winnipeg, told Canadian Press he had known McLean since they went to school together.
“I knew he was coming back from the [exhibition]… my brother was supposed to go meet him at the bus depot and he never showed up. And then my younger brother and my other brother went to go to his parents’ place to see if they know anything, and they saw a bunch of news people there. And then they asked at his parents’ and that’s how we found out,” Caron said.
By early Friday there were scores of condolence messages on Facebook groups set up to remember McLean.
Continued @ CNN
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Update 5
OK this is getting even more freaky:
Beheading on bus shocks Canada, cannibalism feared
Still no mention of a name for the perp. They did say the suspect is not from Manitoba.
We taking bets?
Update #4
Airport-style safety precautions impossible for buses: Greyhound
Also, Police are still refusing to reveal the name of the perp and the victim. Victim pending family notification.
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Update #3
Released 3 minutes ago:
Winnipeg Sun
The man who witnesses allege repeatedly stabbed and then beheaded a male on a Greyhound bus last night is 40 years old and from out of province, RCMP said today.
RCMP would not release the man’s name or any information about the victim, including his name, age or hometown. Police believe the victim was travelling solo.
The suspect has not yet been charged. He was arrested following a three-hour standoff and is in police custody.
RCMP would not comment on the suspect’s mental health.
Witnesses said the gruesome and horrific attack was unprovoked, but RCMP said they don’t know if it was random or prompted by something.
More at the link aboove….
MORE DETAILS:
With Video
AOL News
A passenger repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated a young man aboard a Greyhound bus travelling through Manitoba overnight in what appears to be a random attack, a witness said Thursday.
The RCMP would not confirm the reports, only saying that a “major incident” took place late Wednesday evening on the bus as it drove along the Trans-Canada Highway en route to Winnipeg from Edmonton.
A man was taken into custody after an hours-long standoff with police ended around 1 a.m. near Portage la Prairie, a city about 85 kilometres west of Winnipeg, according to reports.
Passenger Garnet Caton, who was sitting in the seat in front of the victim, told CBC News in gruesome detail how he saw the attacker stab his seatmate, a young man sleeping with his headphones on.
Caton said he heard a “blood-curdling scream” and turned around to see the attacker holding a large “Rambo” hunting knife above the victim, “continually stabbing him in the chest area.”
“He must have stabbed him 50 times or 60 times,” said Caton.
As panicked passengers fled the bus, “the attacker was over top of the victim … continually cutting him. I think the victim was gone at that point,” Caton said.
Caton, the driver and a trucker who had stopped at the scene later boarded the vehicle to see if the victim was still alive.
“When we came back on the bus, it was visible at the end of the bus he was cutting the guy’s head off and pretty much gutting him up,” said Caton.
The attacker ran at them, Caton said, and they ran out of the bus, holding the door shut as he tried to slash at the trio.
When the attacker tried to drive the bus away, the driver disabled the vehicle, Caton said.
“While we were watching the door, he calmly walks up to the front with the head in his hand and the knife and just calmly stares at us and drops the head right in front of us,” said Caton.
Caton described the attacker as surprisingly calm. “It was like he was at the beach or something. There was no rage in him. He wasn’t swearing or cursing or anything. It was just like he was a robot or something.”
Police cruisers arrived about 10 minutes after the attack began, he estimates, and officers began directing passengers to school buses to take them to a hotel in Brandon.
“While we were waiting on the side of the road, [the attacker] was taunting the police with the head in his hand,” said Caton.
Caton described the attacker as appearing “totally normal” earlier in the journey, even chatting with a young woman as he smoked a cigarette during a break.
But when he got back on the bus, he moved his belongings from the front to a seat beside the victim in the back and about 20 minutes later began attacking the man, said Caton. “He didn’t say anything to the victim at all,” said Caton.
A six-year-old and other children were among the passengers who saw the horrific incident unfold, said Caton.
“It was pretty traumatic,” he said, adding that some passengers said they have been unable to sleep or eat since it happened.
A chaplain and crisis team were on hand to counsel passengers at the hotel, he said.
Officers were still at the scene early Thursday and brought portable search lights to examine the bus, the CBC’s Sean Kavanagh reported. Traffic was being rerouted to a side road.
Abby Wambaugh, media relations spokeswoman for Greyhound Canada, said there were 37 passengers and a driver aboard the bus.
She would not comment on what happened on the bus.
“I don’t want to compromise the investigation, so any details need to be confirmed by the police,” she said.
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Sun News Canada
July 31, 2008
PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE, Man. — A man was stabbed to death then beheaded on a Greyhound bus in an apparent random act of violence, according to an eyewitness.
All lanes of traffic on the Trans-Canada Highway remained closed Thursday morning west of Portage la Prairie as the RCMP investigated what they would only refer to as “a major incident” on the bus that was headed from Edmonton to Winnipeg.
At about 8:45 p.m. the vehicle was stopped in the eastbound lane following an apparent assault.
Garnet Caton, one of 37 passengers on the bus, said he witnessed the attack.
“We all heard this scream, this like blood-curdling scream,” Caton told CBC Newsworld.
He alleged the suspect had a “large hunting knife” and repeatedly stabbed the victim “like 50 or 60 times.”
“The attacker was calmy over top of the victim continually cutting him. I think the victim was gone at that point,” Caton told the CBC.
He said the victim appeared to be sleeping before the attack and the suspect was not acting out of the ordinary.
The bus was evacuated, but Caton said he was one of a handful of witnesses who saw the suspect allegedly trying to behead the body.
The suspect later appeared at the front of the bus, he said.
“He calmly walked up to the front (of the bus) with (the victim’s) head in his hand and the knife and then dropped the head in front of us,” Caton said, adding he believes the suspect later returned to the back of the bus and was seen later “taunting police with the head in his hand out the window.”
Caton said the suspect appeared calm.
“What struck me, it was like he was at the beach or something,” he said.
The incident took place about 20 kilometres west of Portage.
A Sun Media reporter on the scene reported about three dozen people from the bus were standing outside the vehicle on the highway following the incident.
A female passenger said she heard screams and heard “there was a stabbing.”
“They told us to get off the bus,” said the woman who did not provide her name.
Another woman at the scene said the passengers were being evacuated from one bus and loaded onto another waiting Greyhound bus.
At one point, Mounties surrounded the bus with one officer standing just a few feet away from an unidentified man sitting in the driver’s seat.
A man was taken into custody after the standoff with police.
Portage RCMP Const. Dave Higgs, who was on the scene, reported “there was a major incident on the bus,” and did not provide any other details.
“I can confirm there was an incident on one of our buses,”Abby Wambaugh, media relations spokeswoman for Greyhound Canada, said late Wednesday night.
Wambaugh said a management team would be waiting in Brandon to meet the passengers when they arrived “to take care of any needs they may have,” including accommodation, transfers to other buses or even trauma counselling, if necessary. — With files from Canadian Press
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July 31st, 2008 at 7:48 amProbably some guy who was release from a mental institution during the summer months to save money.
July 31st, 2008 at 7:49 amSomehow “random act of violence” just does not cut it here.
July 31st, 2008 at 7:52 amI’m willing to bet the attacker was a “Militant muslim male between the ages of 18-40.”
July 31st, 2008 at 7:53 amGuess thats one way to get him to stop fucking snoring.
July 31st, 2008 at 8:06 amA bus full of passengers.
And nobody did a fucking thing.
Wasn’t there a case in Canada where a man walked into a classroom with a gun, ordered all the males out, and then executed the girls while the guys stood in the hallway with their thumbs up their asses?
But a guy shoots up a church in America, whole different outcome. In one case he’s shot, and in another he’s tackled by the congregation. In the second case, the first guy to rush him died, but the psycho didn’t have time to gun down anyone else before the others piled onto him.
There was a time that would’ve been the norm, not the exception.
July 31st, 2008 at 8:07 amWhat is the Bio of the murderer? Might his first name be Mohammed? At a minimum, he must be a big fan of Al Jazeer TV.
July 31st, 2008 at 8:09 am“Greyhound. Leave the driving to us and leave the gruesome beheading to your fellow passengers.”
July 31st, 2008 at 8:21 amTwo questions come to mind but I doubt they would be reported in any “news” outlet let alone one in Canada:
Was the perpetrator a practitioner of a “religion” designated the most “peaceful”?
Did they mutter the motivational catchphrase “Allahu Akbar!”?
July 31st, 2008 at 8:45 amHoly Christ.
July 31st, 2008 at 8:52 am
ticticboom(Will Kill For Oil)
July 31st, 2008 at 10:09 amThat is what I was thinking. No one did anything? Pathetic.
the eyewitness first reaction is to tell the busdriver to stop rather than grab the attcker and gouge his eyes out?
July 31st, 2008 at 10:17 amHad to be a white dude. Only white people are that crazy
July 31st, 2008 at 10:53 amWell he didn’t shoot the victim, looks like Canada’s gunlaws are working great
July 31st, 2008 at 11:01 amThis is from my local paper:
“The victim, who Caton said appeared to be about 19, had been on the bus since Edmonton. He said the attacker boarded the bus in Brandon, Manitoba, about 80 miles west of Portage La Prairie.”
So, the victim was just a kid. Still no info on the psycho.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:27 pmWhy is it when someone shoots up a place, they are a “gunman” but if you hack off a head, you aren’t a “knifeman”? What the fuck IS a gunman anyway? Sounds like a liberal invention to me. I’ve certainly never used the word.
I mean hell, the guy’s clearly as nutty as fucking trail mix.
But waiting for cops? why? You’ve got a crowbar, tire-iron, hammer, and knowing truckers, there should be some nice heavy wrenches. I think this can be sorted out without the coppers.
Improvise weapons you silly fuckers XD.
But on a side note, does anyone here not carry a pocket knife daily?
July 31st, 2008 at 12:29 pmMust have been a revenge killing. The killer was a Kos Kid getting even for the “right-winger” who attacked the liberal church-goers.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:49 pm…or a muslim.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:50 pmAlas, our laws have made us into a bunch of sheep. Tedders mentioned CCW laws…yeah, not in a million years in this socialist haven. It is hard enough to get rifles and shotguns for hunting, never mind concealed pistols. Many pistols are “restricted” and require jumping through fiery hoops to get licensed, if the pistol of choice is even allowed/available.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:55 pmIt is pathetic and shameful that an entire busload of people just allowed this to happen. Canadians better hope and pray that this was not an “Islamic incident” - there will be many more to follow if our reaction is the typical “spin and ignore/cover up”
Shortly after 9-11-01 there was a Greyhound enroute, I beleive, from Memphis, TN that a Muslim male took over with a knife and held the folks hostage for a period of time. I remember the incident but can not find any info on it.
I wonder if this might be a part of recent up-ticks in mass ransportation security, noted by DHS, especially in the New York area?
Sounds like a good time for Canadians to repeal their ultra restictive gun laws.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:06 pmWednesday, October 3, 2001
7:45 a.m. EDT Greyhound bus lines in the United States halts all service, after a man slits the throat of the driver of bus No. 1115, en route from Nashville to Atlanta, 50 miles southeast of Nashville. The bus crashed, killing four of the 36 passengers. Early reports stated at least 10 were killed. A Nashville newspaper reports that the Greyhound bus attacker was a drug addict with a history of erratic behavior.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:29 pmInteresting that ethnicity has not been mentioned.
How could anyone stand by and watch this occur and not prevent it. Spineless POSs!
July 31st, 2008 at 1:37 pmAmerican JiHadi or Muslim immigrant pissed that the young man was dating his muslim daughter.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:51 pmYupe!
Anytime the story doesn’t mention an angry white male or a poor misunderstood black youth you start to second guess.
A beheading?
Sounds like Sudden Jihad Syndrome.
At least in the UK they have a code they use, they put “Asian” in the article just so the public knows it’s not the crazy American Baptist Missionarys again.
(Load up)
July 31st, 2008 at 2:23 pmRegards
Storm 0311
Wow, this was practically in my backyard. My coworker’s friend was talking to some Greyhound bus drivers who knew what had happened. Our little store’s supply of the local Brandon paper sold out half-way through the day, though it seems the Brandon Sun got the story all wrong (they seemed to think the killer barricaded himself inside the bus, rather than being barricaded). The state of local news around here is appalling.
The articles say the killer boarded the bus in Brandon, which leads me to suspect that this is just some random crazy, not a jihadi. Brandon doesn’t exactly have a large Muslim population. Actually, it doesn’t even have a small Muslim population. There might be, like, three. We have the Hell’s Angels and Indian Posse gangs, but no extremist Mohammedans that I’m aware of.
Unless of course the guy was just passing through, in which case, who knows?
July 31st, 2008 at 2:58 pm—————————–
Thanks for the info. I will be regularly updating the information as it become available to me..
July 31st, 2008 at 3:16 pmI bet his name is Mohammed, or Yousef, or Kahlid, or Emaad, or Alaa, or Rasheed, or ……………………..
July 31st, 2008 at 3:32 pmAccording to this post, the man is “described as being native or Asian.”
http://dustmybroom.com/content/view/4846/1/
This being Canada, “Asian” probably means East Asian, not Middle-Eastern. I probably wasn’t far off when I mentioned the Indian Posse. Most of the crime hereabouts is done by Natives. That’s what happens when you allow a socialist-leaning government to take care of an entire people group — they spiral down into the depths of poverty, alcoholism, and crime.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:49 pmWhy aren’t they revealing details about this savage??????
July 31st, 2008 at 3:54 pmFrom the comments at Dust my Broom:
http://dustmybroom.com/content/view/4846/1/
Darcey said:
July 31st, 2008 at 3:56 pm“mecheng, race is important here as there are only a few small minority groups in Canada that would do this - on a sane basis. One is the Mara Salvatrucha gang members and the other is extreme Islamics. I thought about the native gangs and drug trade as well but heck, the victim apparently got on the bus in Edmonton, was 18-19 years old and the beheader got on around Brandon and was around 40. Beheading isn’t in their toolbox, they would have just stabbed or shot each other if it was a hit. I hope the guy was just simply crazy but I imagine we will hear more soon.
From the comments at Dust my Broom:
http://dustmybroom.com/content/view/4846/1/
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Thanks - Keeping an eye on it.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:14 pmWaiting for the second shoe to drop. I really hope it isn’t what I think it might be. A lone nutjob would be a lot easier on the mind.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:44 pmBut hey … Atleast he didn’t use a gun …
Sheesh! That would have been bad, ya know.
Canadian 
July 31st, 2008 at 4:46 pmYa think thank that Canada should impost knife control now?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:55 pmThe Killer got on the bus at Brandon, at the bus station, I presume.
My point being the Killer could have come to Brandon from any of Greyhound’s connections.
Such as a very large city in Canada.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:13 pmThey are not releasing info about the attacker because they are trying to figure out how to do damage control - as this is likely going to be a Muslim on Jihad.
He has been in custody for over 24 hours - normally by now we would have complete details. They probably wish that somehow this would just go away and nobody would ask anymore questions.
We wouldn’t want to offend any Muslims. Perhaps the government should pass a law that allows pissed off Muslims to randomly behead Canadian Infidels - as it says so in the Koran.
July 31st, 2008 at 6:12 pmStill no news on who the perp is:
I WILL be updating this as soon as information breaks….
July 31st, 2008 at 7:25 pmOr Hussein?
July 31st, 2008 at 9:05 pmAll I can keep thinking is that nobody did anything. Nothing. “Stop the bus, he’s got a knife, get off the bus.” That’s it. Nobody did a damn thing. Just let it happen? Just let it happen. Really, nothing? Are ya sure, maybe some details were left out. They did nothing.
July 31st, 2008 at 10:03 pmthing is in canada it is illegal, apparently, to link crimes with th race/religion …. and if you use a racial slur you can go to jail for that, expressions like - “i fucking hate those fucking muslims” could lead u to prison …. sad, but i think no-one will know the name of that fuckhead until the court hearings
July 31st, 2008 at 11:58 pmThis reminds me of the hysteria that first Halloween after 9/11. I was working in an outlet mall. First off, my manager didn’t know the difference between Muslims and Hindus and got nervous any time someone from the local Indian immigrant population came into our store. I literally had to take her aside and whisper, “See those dots on their foreheads…?” before she would calm down. Secondly, the mall managers tried (unsuccessfully) to cancel trick-or-treating at our mall because there were rumors that jihadists would try to attack a mall on Halloween. Who the HELL would attack a mall at Halloween or any other time, that wasn’t a homegrown non-Muslim crazy? I mean, seriously? Don’t bother pointing at Israel, this isn’t the “Holy Land” and y’all don’t care about the Jews anyway.
Similarly here, though. Why the HELL would a so-called Muslim decapitate a random Native boy (it was the victim who was Native, not the perp, as far as we know) for no discernable reason?
I’m a child of the 80s, and I remember every time, and I mean EVERY time Islamist terrorists hijacked a plane, they stated a reason for doing so. 9/11 was different not only in their M.O. but in that they didn’t tell the passengers or the crew why they were doing what they were doing or what their plans were.
I’ve lived upstairs from a Muslim family and down the street from a masjid for four years. No one has offered to bother me, no one has blown anything up and we are just north of downtown here. And Ohio is a swing state, and there is an important university here. And Columbus has a huge Muslim population. We’ve had a few arrests of questionable people here, but y’all, that Greyhound terminal is right there downtown. Where are the crazies? Right, most of them aren’t even identifiable as Muslim and they don’t go around blowing stuff up.
Why don’t you guys just start hating one another and spare us the bullshit? Ooh, the Communists were scary–now they’re gone. Ooh, the Muslims were scary–they’ve had, what, two major attacks on U.S. soil? One of which didn’t even kill anybody? How many people have Christian terrorists killed in this country now? Or in Canada? When will DHS go after Christian churches? When do we get to see white-guy roundups and habeas corpus suspended for you?
August 1st, 2008 at 1:52 amOh, and. One more question. The scant descriptions I’ve seen of this guy so far are that he’s forty and bald. Now, male pilgrims on the hajj to Mecca get their heads shaved after it’s over. Mmkay. But how many bald Muslims do you see outside of Mecca? If they say this guy was clean-shaven too, wow, guess we’ll just have to blame some other group, because a self-described Muslim nutty enough to hijack a completely unimportant Greyhound bus and kill a completely unimportant Native boy would be wearing a beard, don’tcha think? He talked to a young woman on his smoke break, too. Big no-no.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:55 amOh, and. One more question. The scant descriptions I’ve seen of this guy so far are that he’s forty and bald. Now, male pilgrims on the hajj to Mecca get their heads shaved after it’s over. Mmkay. But how many bald Muslims do you see outside of Mecca? If they say this guy was clean-shaven too, wow, guess we’ll just have to blame some other group, because a self-described Muslim nutty enough to hijack a completely unimportant Greyhound bus and kill a completely unimportant Native boy would be wearing a beard, don’tcha think? He talked to a young woman on his smoke break, too. Big no-no.
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Take a look at what some of the 9/11 hijackers did just before their crimes..
The self-styled warriors for Allah — who believed their hijackings would earn them eager virgins in heaven — engaged in some decidedly un-Islamic sampling of prohibited pleasures in America’s reputed capital of moral corrosion.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/10/04/MN102970.DTL
August 1st, 2008 at 4:08 amticticboom, you are probably thinking about what has come to be known as the Montreal Massacre. The perp in that case was an Algerian, I think. Some North African country that was formerly a French colony, anyway. He killed the women because they were engineering students, in other words, they were not barefoot and pregnant like they were supposed to be, but rather had taken his spot in the university.
August 1st, 2008 at 4:12 amHere’s some more about it.
August 1st, 2008 at 4:24 amRead some of the comments at Small Dead Animals.
August 1st, 2008 at 4:43 amLying again, Louise? The perp in the Montreal Massacre was a Canadian, born in Canada. not Algerian. He was Catholic, though his dad (who abandoned the family quite young) was Muslim.
Nice try.
August 1st, 2008 at 5:12 amIt’s amazing the crap people will write….or say
IT’s pretty evident that a Rambo or Hunting Knife will cause a fatal injury in one blow.That is what they are made for. They did the right thing by getting off the bus. Do not hold this against the victims(they are all victims now).
You were not there and to suggest you would do differently means nothing to anyone except your own inflated ego (this is not hollywood)
My concern is why are they not giving us his identification (THE Killer). I think most of us already have our suspiscions about that. The picture of the bus is showing a dark haired dark skinned man. But coming from Canada that’s not abnormal. He may have been an aboriginal or a muslim etc.
I would not be surprised if this is something to do with the middle east,if only because they are not giving enough information.We will soon see
As for making sick jokes about the victim, it’s assholes like you that lead to the de-sensitization of our society so shut the fuck up and have respect, next time it may be your family members. Have you stopped to consider how easy it was to find this link. That there family may read you sick fuck jokes…..Shit like that reminds me of our neighbours down south and how violant and self centered there society is…does anyone remember Dimebag ?
August 1st, 2008 at 5:53 am@Dana
Muslims don’t need a reason to commit murder. Jihad is required of all Muslims. That jihad is against all non-Muslims irrespective of the non-Muslim’s politics.
“Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada, signifying warfare to establish the religion.” (Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, Reliance of the Traveller, A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law, o9.0, JIHAD, pg. 599)
“Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the Religion of truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya (tribute) with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” (Quran, Sura 9:29)
One can describe jihad in terms of a “grand strategy” and “total war” because it applies every element of force and suasion, every stratagem, every inducement and every coercion to submit the world to Islam. The “philosophy of war … is an integral part of the total Quranic ideology.
And that includes murder whether a Shaheed or not.
August 1st, 2008 at 6:01 am
Dana
August 1st, 2008 at 6:25 amPerhaps you could list for us the “Christian terrorist” events that have taken place on US or Canadian soil???? Or perhaps the “Christian” ethic that demanded they take the lives of others for their religion???
Just because someone is white, does not make them a Christian - just like someone who is Middle Eastern looking is not an Islamic terrorist, as you so clearly told us.
It seems perhaps that you have some white hate issues - don’t presume to lecture the rest of us.
[…] I’m willing to bet the attacker was a “Militant muslim male between the ages of 18-40. […]
August 1st, 2008 at 6:33 amThe perp’s name was Vince Weiguang Li. Sounds Chinese to me. What was his fooking problem I wonder? A recent convert to the jihad? Or just another insane screwball?
August 1st, 2008 at 6:35 amLMAO living in saskatchewan we never get shit like this. I live about 3 hours from where this happened….. scary. Ive taken a bus to portage b4!
August 1st, 2008 at 6:42 am@Stageleft
The perp’s motivation has yet to be revealed. And the speculation on he being Muslim because of his particular crime fits what jihadis do. I wouldn’t be so dismissive of such speculation since the jury is still out on Mr Li.
August 1st, 2008 at 7:16 amSomehow I doubt you’ll have a crowd of Buddhist priests and Chinese ‘community organizers’ either justifying what Li did or blaming the victim.
Still possible he’s a muslim, although they usually change their names when they convert, abandoning their culture and heritage.
Of course, look at how many in the media and LE called the Beltway Sniper (although calling him that is an insult to real snipers; my mother could’ve made those shots at those ranges and with that rifle) John Williams instead of John Muhammed, at least at first. Many still won’t admit he was a jihadi.
August 1st, 2008 at 7:42 amMy first thought was a Polynesian or Tongan racist, not necessarily a Jihadi.
I’m so sorry for those people on the bus. They’ll never be the same again. Believe it or not, they did the spot on right thing. If any of them tried to disarm the guy, they would have been killed. Taking on a knife unarmed is something even the people who train to do won’t do if they have any other option, including running away. And I’m not talking about your average black belt. They don’t stand a chance.
Check out what happened to this officer who let a guy with a knife get too close: http://blogidaho.blogspot.com/2007/01/why-cops-shoot-guys-with-knives.html
Who the fuck is Dana?
August 1st, 2008 at 7:52 amI doubt the perp is from the crazy, wild sects of…. the Amish, Mormons, Catholics, Jehovah Witness, Presbyterians, Lutherans,… I wonder if there is any connection of this beheading to the “Religion of Peace”?
August 1st, 2008 at 8:34 amThere was another beheading murder that happened in Winnipeg in 2002. The accused murderer, Sydney Teerhuis, dismembered and possibly consumed some of the victims internal organs. Even more interesting is the fact that $3000 worth of jewelry from the set of “Shall We Dance”, stolen from Susan Surandon’s trailer, was recovered at the scene among blood and guts.
There’s a video on this website:
www.trophykill.tv
with details on the murder! Check it out.
Winnipeg author and social activist Dan Zupansky is writing a book about the tragedy and the upcoming December 2008 trial titled “Trophy Kill: The Trial and Revelations of a Psychopathic Killer. The Shall We Dance Murder.”
August 1st, 2008 at 10:06 amBal, my dear friend. What I said was accurate. The fact that he was a Canadian citizen is hardly enough to make your pathetically weak case. I was married to a Muslim for several years. He was as devout a Muslim as I am a Christian, in other words, nearly cold enough to solve the AGW crisis. Your presumptions are as amusing as they are whacky. But we’ve all come to expect that from leftards.
August 1st, 2008 at 11:16 amAnd by the way, where did I say he was Muslim? Go back to school darlin’. You evidently can’t read.
August 1st, 2008 at 11:18 amYes, the murder’s name was Li, which is Chinese. That, of course, does not mean that he couldn’t possibly have been Muslim, since there are Muslim Chinese in the North West corner of China, and possibly elsewhere. But, as someone said, the jury is still out. I suspect the guy is just a psycho and that’s the long and the short of it.
August 1st, 2008 at 11:46 amJust a word of advice to readers. If anyone is planning on visiting Balbulican’s blog via the trackback link, make sure you have your puke pail handy. Don’t say you weren’t warned. He’s one of Canada’s resident nose in the air, holier than thou leftists who will excuse all manner of atrocities based on the usual leftist inclination to completely invert the “blame the victim” meme. Similar to our former Prime Minister saying the USA had 9/11 coming to them.
August 1st, 2008 at 11:55 amPathetic story from start to finish. 34 vs 1 and all the Canucks run, way to go team Canada!
August 1st, 2008 at 11:58 am
Buck Hoff
August 2nd, 2008 at 3:41 pmYou nailed it!! –enough said.
random jihad
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:17 amto all of you who believe it was cowardly for the other passengers to flee the bus
1)mr. mclean was probably gone by the time it actually registered in anyone’s mind what was truely happening…yes i know they reported hearing a scream, but in a traumatic situation such as, it can takes your brain some time to catch up with what is happening.
2)have you ever been on a greyhound? not exactly on open boxing ring. it would be impossible to have a strategy in there.
3) check out the link someone posted previously…
http://blogidaho.blogspot.com/2007/01/why-cops-shoot-guys-with-knives.html
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:16 amIn retrospect to the situation it is extremely unfortunate greyhound bus trip. The Asian man is probably mentally ill. What could have happened is he could have heard voices in his head believing that the devil instructed him to get rid of the Tim McClean. Playing the music on his ipod could have substaniated his claim. This is a very sad situation, when hearing it on the news cried, & cried. My personal thoughts if only there could have been a different outcome. It is understandable not to stand up to the Rambo knife. Although
August 4th, 2008 at 9:22 pmif people had all thrown things at him from different directions ie: suitcases. Could he have been disarmed?
more creepy stuff.
August 5th, 2008 at 7:27 pm