Barry Insane Tried To Cut Deal On U.S./Iraq Security Agreement Behind President’s Back, And…Was Rebuffed By Petraeus
Pictured: Barry Insane sitting down and talking with Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari last July. This meeting must have been when he pulled this shit…
So let me get this straight…Barry Insane told Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari last July to wait until after the U.S. elections to finish an agreement with the Unites States on a withdrawal agreement?
WTF? Is this a violation of the Logan Act?
Another of several interesting highlights in the article below:
“Maliki’s advisers have persuaded him that Obama will win - but the prime minister worries about the senator’s “political debt to the anti-war lobby” - which is determined to transform Iraq into a disaster to prove that toppling Saddam Hussein was “the biggest strategic blunder in US history.”
Other prominent Iraqi leaders, such as Vice President Adel Abdul-Mahdi and Kurdish regional President Massoud Barzani, believe that Sen. John McCain would show “a more realistic approach to Iraqi issues.”
Obama has given Iraqis the impression that he doesn’t want Iraq to appear anything like a success, let alone a victory, for America. The reason? He fears that the perception of US victory there might revive the Bush Doctrine of “pre-emptive” war - that is, removing a threat before it strikes at America.”
New York Post by Amir Teheri:
WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.
According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.
“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.
Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its “state of weakness and political confusion.”
“However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open.” Zebari says.
Though Obama claims the US presence is “illegal,” he suddenly remembered that Americans troops were in Iraq within the legal framework of a UN mandate. His advice was that, rather than reach an accord with the “weakened Bush administration,” Iraq should seek an extension of the UN mandate.
While in Iraq, Obama also tried to persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a “realistic withdrawal date.” They declined.
Obama has made many contradictory statements with regard to Iraq. His latest position is that US combat troops should be out by 2010. Yet his effort to delay an agreement would make that withdrawal deadline impossible to meet.
Supposing he wins, Obama’s administration wouldn’t be fully operational before February - and naming a new ambassador to Baghdad and forming a new negotiation team might take longer still.
By then, Iraq will be in the throes of its own campaign season. Judging by the past two elections, forming a new coalition government may then take three months. So the Iraqi negotiating team might not be in place until next June.
Then, judging by how long the current talks have taken, restarting the process from scratch would leave the two sides needing at least six months to come up with a draft accord. That puts us at May 2010 for when the draft might be submitted to the Iraqi parliament - which might well need another six months to pass it into law.
Thus, the 2010 deadline fixed by Obama is a meaningless concept, thrown in as a sop to his anti-war base.
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and the Bush administration have a more flexible timetable in mind.
According to Zebari, the envisaged time span is two or three years - departure in 2011 or 2012. That would let Iraq hold its next general election, the third since liberation, and resolve a number of domestic political issues.
Even then, the dates mentioned are only “notional,” making the timing and the cadence of withdrawal conditional on realities on the ground as appreciated by both sides.
Iraqi leaders are divided over the US election. Iraqi President Jalal Talabani (whose party is a member of the Socialist International) sees Obama as “a man of the Left” - who, once elected, might change his opposition to Iraq’s liberation. Indeed, say Talabani’s advisers, a President Obama might be tempted to appropriate the victory that America has already won in Iraq by claiming that his intervention transformed failure into success.
Maliki’s advisers have persuaded him that Obama will win - but the prime minister worries about the senator’s “political debt to the anti-war lobby” - which is determined to transform Iraq into a disaster to prove that toppling Saddam Hussein was “the biggest strategic blunder in US history.”
Other prominent Iraqi leaders, such as Vice President Adel Abdul-Mahdi and Kurdish regional President Massoud Barzani, believe that Sen. John McCain would show “a more realistic approach to Iraqi issues.”
Obama has given Iraqis the impression that he doesn’t want Iraq to appear anything like a success, let alone a victory, for America. The reason? He fears that the perception of US victory there might revive the Bush Doctrine of “pre-emptive” war - that is, removing a threat before it strikes at America.
Despite some usual equivocations on the subject, Obama rejects pre-emption as a legitimate form of self -defense. To be credible, his foreign-policy philosophy requires Iraq to be seen as a failure, a disaster, a quagmire, a pig with lipstick or any of the other apocalyptic adjectives used by the American defeat industry in the past five years.
Yet Iraq is doing much better than its friends hoped and its enemies feared. The UN mandate will be extended in December, and we may yet get an agreement on the status of forces before President Bush leaves the White House in January.
(New York Post)
Nods to Steve in NC.
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just one more tally on Obama’s record of disregard for the law. Of course if he ever goes to trial people will be screaming racist.
September 15th, 2008 at 8:18 amI think we ought to have him arrested and jailed for being a walking turd.
September 15th, 2008 at 8:19 amTo my knowledge no Congressman/Senator is authorized to carry out negotiations with the possible exceptions of the Speaker and the Pres. Pro Temp. After all Negotiations with foreign governments rests with the executive branch.
September 15th, 2008 at 8:20 amJust more proof this guy is a sack-o-lying-shit.
You would think the anti-war pro Hussein people would be fit to be tied over this news, but do you think they will say a word?? I strongly doubt the hypocrits will say boo about it. In their fucked up minds this couldn’t possibly happen…. after all he is “The One.”
September 15th, 2008 at 8:24 amBash you would be correct. If this story is true, Obama is in direct violation of the Logan Act. Not that he would give a shit.
Another Obama rumor that is coming from reliable DNC sources: Joe Biden will step down from the campaign somewhere around October 5 stating medical reasons. The rumor is the Hildabeast will then step in, conveniently after the VP Debate.
Semper Fi!!
September 15th, 2008 at 8:27 amIf the Logan Act was not invoked against Nancy Pelosi’s STUPID visit to Syria, then I doubt it could be invoked against this OTHER STUPID visit.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,264334,00.html
What is worse about Nancy’s visit, was at least the constitution provides for the “advice of the Senate,” it is very explicit in excluding the House from these proceedings.
Arrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!
September 15th, 2008 at 8:38 am“CNN VIDEO
Tuesday, July 22, 2008
CNN Reporters: Obama “Presumptuous” & Negotiations Overstep His Authority as a Senator
Last night on Anderson Cooper 360, two CNN political analysts charged that Senator Obama overstepped his authority as a United States Senator in acting as a negotiator with the Iraqi government and publicly disclosing statements made during those interviews.
During an interview with Anderson Cooper, David Gergen, CNN’s Senior Political Analyst stated,
“Barack Obama made the first mistake of his trip, in my judgment, in releasing a statement in which he said exactly what Maliki had said in those conversations.
We have a long tradition in this country that we only have one president at a time. He’s the commander in chief and the negotiator in chief. I cannot remember a campaign which a rival seeking the presidency has been in a position negotiating a war that’s under way with another party outside the country.
I think he leaves himself open to the charge tonight that he’s meddling, that this is not his role, that he can be the critic, but he’s not the negotiator. We have a president who does that. So, I think the underlying facts support him, but I think it would be a real mistake — and I think it was a mistake — to get into these conversations and let it be used politically. “
Gergens comments were later echoed by a second CNN Analyst, Gloria Borger, who charged,
“I do agree with David. And Candy, in her earlier piece, talked about walking the fine line between being this candidate and being presumptuous. And I think that he may just have crossed that, because, you know, it is a tradition. You don’t talk about these private conversations. And it’s not up to Barack Obama right now to negotiate troop withdrawals. It’s up to Barack Obama to be on a fact-finding mission, which is indeed what he has said he was on. “
September 15th, 2008 at 8:48 amReply With Quote
Rob: The Speaker and the Pres. Pro Temp aren’t supposed to do it either. Remember, Pelosi attempted to do that shit in Syria a couple of years back - AFTER Bush told her NOT to.
September 15th, 2008 at 8:49 amno one in washington has the balls to bring barry up on charges so it doesn’t matter… the fucking pussies!!
September 15th, 2008 at 8:50 amIs there still any question that this man does NOT have the best interest of this country at heart?
September 15th, 2008 at 9:06 amDoes not pass the smell test and is still very much a rumor. Sounds like manure.
September 15th, 2008 at 12:30 pmWho does this Uppity Pickaninny think he is?
Jimmuh Cartier? D’oh!
September 15th, 2008 at 7:24 pmIt is really weird but if you take the twelve (12) letters of The Obama Messiah’s real given Mau Mau name of Barry Soeroto [B A R R Y S O E R O T O ] and rearrange the letters in an anagram they mystically somehow spell
“I Am The Anti-Christ”
if you allow for a wee little give or take of just a few letters here and there.
September 15th, 2008 at 7:27 pm