Global Warming Bill To Die In Senate Today
Senate Minority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell says he suspects there was “never any great desire to seriously address” global warming.
Related: $45 Trillion Needed To Combat Global Warming
WAPO:
WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans on Friday blocked a global warming bill that would have required major reductions in greenhouse gases, after a bitter debate over its economic costs and whether it would substantially raise gasoline and other energy prices.
Democratic leaders fell a dozen votes short of getting the 60 needed to end a Republican filibuster on the measure and bring the bill up for a vote. The 48-36 vote failed to reach even a majority, a disappointment to the bill’s supporters.
Majority Leader Harry Reid was expected to pull the legislation, in all likelihood pushing the congressional debate over climate change to next year with a new Congress and a new president.
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Washington Times:
Global warming was the bill few senators seemed to want to debate, and Friday the Senate will kill it, sending supporters back to the drawing board for the third time in five years.
Republican and Democratic leaders accused each other of purposely muddying the debate, leaving Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to schedule a premature vote and Republicans saying they will oblige Mr. Reid by killing the bill with a filibuster.
“My suspicion is there was never any great desire to seriously address what they think is the most important issue facing the planet,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said, blaming Democrats for refusing to allow the weeks of debate such a major measure needed.
He said Democrats didn’t want to be caught debating this bill with energy prices already so high and with some studies showing the bill would lead to higher gas prices and, potentially, a loss of jobs: “I think they realize they made a colossal blunder.”
Mr. Reid predicted some Republicans will join “the vast majority of Democrats” in backing the bill, but acknowledged he didn’t carve out enough debate time this year to get something done.
“This is a bill that someday is going to take some time to do,” he told reporters.
Still, he said Republican leaders foiled his attempts to at least begin the debate in earnest this year, and he said they will be blamed for the bill’s failure.
“The American people are seeing very clearly what this Republican minority is doing,” he said.
The bill in question adopts a cap-and-trade approach, establishing a limit on greenhouse gas emissions and lowering the limit to achieve dramatic reductions by 2050. This establishes a market that allows businesses to trade credits for allowable emissions, which means companies that have an easier time meeting goals can sell credits to other companies for whom the technology is not yet available to reduce emissions.
With this year’s fight all but over, all sides are now wondering whether the vote tally will give supporters momentum heading into future debates. In the previous two votes they never crossed 50 votes, much less the 60 needed to overcome a filibuster: in 2003 they had 43 votes, and in 2005 they dropped to 38.
The bill’s supporters claimed victory on a number of points, including the science on global warming. Sen. Barbara Boxer, California Democrat and chairman of the Environment and Public Works Committee, repeatedly needled Republicans on that point.
“Our opponents aren’t even really debating us on that anymore,” she said Wednesday.
Mr. McConnell Thursday acknowledged to reporters they had purposely avoided that part of the debate in favor of attacking the large spending and gas price implications of the bill.
Some Republicans also grumbled that Mr. McConnell stepped on their message by halting the debate Wednesday in a dispute over judicial nominations. He forced the Senate clerks to spend nearly nine hours reading the 492 pages of the global warming bill as a protest against the confirmation of judges.
But Democrats seized on the move as evidence Republicans were uselessly blocking the global warming debate, and gave Mr. Reid a reason to set up Friday’s futile vote.
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Finally, the fact that congress can accomplish nothing works in our favor.
June 6th, 2008 at 7:04 amKill it … Then dig it up and kill it again because it wasn’t dead enough …
BTW, anyone else totally creeped-out by Barbara Boxer’s hands … especially when she’s talking?
Like Nosferatu’s hands.
June 6th, 2008 at 7:12 am“Our opponents aren’t even really debating us on that anymore,” she said Wednesday.
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Well you stupid rancid c*nt boxer, in that statement have just admitted the ’science’ of global warming is subject to debate.
Funny, I did no know that scientific facts were determined by debate.
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so much bullshit, so little time..
June 6th, 2008 at 7:17 amIf only it would end there.
June 6th, 2008 at 7:24 amWe need to be energy independent first.
Then only after 30 or 40 years of study, when we either prove or disprove global climate change is a result of man made CO2 contributions should we even consider controlling CO2.
I heard the other day where Greenland’s glaciers are melting.
Well, why do you think we call it Greenland…
The Vikings discovered trees and arable land there. They only left after the climate cooled. I guess they screwed up by not building a coal fired plants and driving SUVs.
Thank god the stupidity has been stifled if only for the moment.
Charles Krauthammer wrote an editorial about this Global Warming Hysteria, saying that he was neither a believer nor a denier instead an agnostic in this matter, being that cooler heads could prevail.
This lunacy of such things like legislating what light bulbs we have to use, and Barry making mention of we can’t expect the rest of the world liking that we keep our homes at 70 degrees and drive SUVs. Well on this point Fuck You Barry, I’ll keep my home at 50 degrees and drive a Sherman Tank as long as I can afford to pay the bill you dick!
However instead of abysmal forms of legislature which are rife with consumer taxes, I believe we could do more to pollute less like building nuclear power plants to replace existing power plants that are nearing their service end. I’ve said it before as much as I hate to admit it the French are the best example of how efficient and clean nuclear power can be.
We need to demand more fuel efficient and cleaner burning diesel cars from auto manufacturers. New diesel technology is nothing like what the Greenies portray as billowing plumes of black smoke. I was just in England a month or two ago in England, I picked up the auto mag Top Gear for my flight back in the back half of the mag they break down all the manufacturers and almost every one has a diesel model in every range. For you SUV lovers they have a V8 Diesel Range Rover that has incredible mileage.
Sorry for rambling, but the irony here of all these stupid and wasteful energy bills are a direct result of the Democrats in cahoots with the Environmental Lobby obstructing the people’s desire for energy independence and national security. If we announce tomorrow we are removing all stops on drilling indigenously and building more refining capacity oil futures would tumble.
June 6th, 2008 at 7:34 amBarbi…baby…the scientific debate is over because the issue has been settled by the scientific community. There is no connection between human activity and global climatic flux. It is a natural phenomenon, period. Now, go wring those mummified-hands of yours…bitch.
June 6th, 2008 at 7:38 am“…the scientific debate is over…”
I was not aware that was something scientists ever ‘believe’
June 6th, 2008 at 7:54 amCan you imagine the predicament we would be in right now if manbearpig had won the 2000 election? It bobbles the mind!!!!
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June 6th, 2008 at 7:57 amCan you imagine the predicament we would be in right now if manbearpig had won the 2000 election? It bobbles the mind!!!!
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June 6th, 2008 at 7:57 amTo find the evil-doers (Thanks GW) one need only follow the money. The “Cap and Trade” concept creates a market for the buying, selling and trading of carbon offset credits. The commissions and profits on such a market would be HUGE. Why do I bring this up? Well our former VP algore the goracle is well positioned to profit. He is the chairman and founder of a firm set up to trade carbon credits (see Human Events article: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=22663) and is well positioned to profit from the artificially created (by cap and trade law) carbon offset market.
A second interesting note is the existence of the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX). Chicago .. isn’t that Obama country? Want to bet there’s some linkage with the Obama campaign and CCX or it’s major supporters/investors such as the Joyce Foundation, Goldman Sachs, and (most likely through several shells) George Soros.
Conspiracy theory anone??
June 6th, 2008 at 8:48 amsully
“…the scientific debate is over…”
I was not aware that was something scientists ever ‘believe’
Well, now you know.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:15 amCould you imagime waking up next to that woman every morning?
Gives me the Willies!!!!
June 6th, 2008 at 10:57 amTOKYO - The world needs to invest $45 trillion in energy in coming decades, build some 1,400 nuclear power plants and vastly expand wind power in order to halve greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, according to an energy study released Friday… That would be an investment more than three times the current size of the entire U.S. economy.
$45T for something that may or may not be a problem.
Anyone seen the May ‘08 satellite temps? -0.180 degrees C
The 16 month ∆T of -0.774°C, is equal in magnitude to the generally agreed upon “global warming signal” of the last 100 years.
Jeez politians, look at the freakin data.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:06 amThe link for the temp graph:
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/uah_may_08.png
June 6th, 2008 at 11:08 amGood Riddance!!!
June 6th, 2008 at 11:14 am“Well, now you know.”
Now I know what?
Any ’scientist’ that makes the claim that ‘the facts are in and the debate is over’ is not a scientist.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:49 amThat’s true for both sides of the ‘debate’.
I do not believe that Climate Change as trademarked by Goracle is true. Primarily because it came from his mouth and he’s a liar but secondarily because he made the same claim; the facts are in and the debate is over.
The ‘other side’ doesn’t need to be going down the same road Gore travels.
You’ve made a giant leap. The scientific community has concluded that algore’s assertion suggesting global climate change(specifically warming)is a direct result of human behavior is false. The debate within the qualified community regarding algore’s position is over, whether you like it or not. A scientific assertion is either valid or invalid as ‘proven’ through the scientific method. algore was/is wrong about anthropomorphic climate change. I am glad that those in the community have finally stood up and closed the door to this debate. If you wish to beat a dead horse, be my guest.
June 6th, 2008 at 2:53 pm“I am glad that those in the community have finally stood up and closed the door to this debate.”
I’m happy that wishful thinking works for you but there isn’t much evidence at all for your own unproven assertion that the door is closed on the debate.
June 6th, 2008 at 3:09 pmWhich is the only “dead horse” I’m beating here if any.
You’re just unread, try this to start, of course there’s much more out there::
https://pat-dollard.com/2008/05/its-officially-official-31000-scientists-officially-state-the-goracle-is-full-of-shit
I don’t intend to convince you. Likeminded idiots will continue to blindly follow the belief. As to your assertion that, “Any ’scientist’ that makes the claim that ‘the facts are in and the debate is over’ is not a scientist.” Clearly you know nothing of the scientific method. For example:
Scientists state that “water” is one atom of hydrogen and two atoms of oxygen. The facts are in and the debate is over.
Scientists state that the earth, is a sphere. The facts are in and the debate is over.
I could go on, but the point is clear. You make the mistake of equating algore’s postulate with true science.
Idiots will still chime in, but the scientific community has ended the debate. Thus it is with algore and anthropomorphic global warming.
I hope you like that horse.
June 6th, 2008 at 4:57 pm“You’re just unread, try this to start…”
I’m not “unread”. I had read it and 30K or whatever the number claiming the ’science’ is wrong obviously has had little effect because, as I pointed out previously, *the debate continues*. It continued just today in the U.S. Senate.
Now again… you and many others asserting the debate is over without proving your assertion is the same ‘tactic’ that the ‘warming advocates’ have used and continue to use.
“You make the mistake of equating algore’s postulate with true science.”
Thank you but I don’t postulate anything about algore’s postulate. Like the scientists in your example I *believe* it to be false.
June 6th, 2008 at 5:26 pmBut I do not make the more grievous mistake of equating whether or not *the debate is over* with whether or not the earth is a sphere.
That truly shows your own lack of comprehension of science.
Utterly ridiculous. You have completed your circular argument and returned to the initial nonsense. There was no debate today in the senate, the bill was killed by filibuster (the absence of debate). Pelosi-bitch complained that there was no debate on the ’science’, which prompted my initial statement that the debate within the scientific community was over (as to the scientific validity of the anthropomorphic global warming claim) in reference to the recent peer reviewed article published through the petition signed by 31,000 qualified scientists. I know full-well that liberal morons, politicians, media dipshits and others will try to keep the lie alive. But within the community of qualified scientists, I assure you, the issue is dead. As for me, I have twenty-five continuous years working within the scientific community, and daily apply the scientific method to my practice. You, Sir, are either disgruntled about something, or a complete idiot, and as such you may have the last word. Good night.
June 6th, 2008 at 6:16 pmThank you kindly for the last word.
June 7th, 2008 at 8:50 amIf you have, as you say, twenty five continuous years within the scientific community, I sincerely hope you don’t approach colleagues with the same ad hominen and appeal to authority (your own?) approach to beginning and continuing what you pass off as an argument. It doesn’t seem fitting to your career choice.
31,000 scientists have not proven that there *is no* anthropomorphic global warming. They have signed a petition that says they do not agree that it has BEEN proven to be true. As much as you seem to wish that they are the same thing, they are not the same thing.
As a result, much to your dismay I’m sure, the debate continues.
I am probably both disgruntled and an idiot but I can easily recognize this simple fact.
Good luck to you.